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#and it's an interesting question! esp that i would reply to it differently like a year ago - before i did a solid reread of starlin's run
boyfridged · 1 year
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What do you think Jason would feel about mothers? Considering he was betrayed by one and then would have gone on and had figures in his life like a mother.
since someone brought up sheila yesterday, i just remembered that this ask has been stranded in my drafts for a while! sorry.
some loose thoughts on the topic, in a "chronological" order:
in the 80s canon, jay grieves after willis and catherine the same. while it's safe to assume that willis was (physically) more absent, there's not much indication that jay had any parental preference (neither of them really could responsibly parent him anyway.) so i believe in general terms jay doesn't really differentiate much between parental roles (and that's why, subsequently, my answer is more about parents in general rather than just mothers...)
i have a post talking about jason's parental relationship with bruce here but i just want to add that atp we also don't see jason having any specific longing for a figure of a mother. imo the reason he gets obsessed over seeking his biological mother out is that in this particular moment he does not feel secure in his relation with bruce. i think if he found out about a biological father instead, he would also want to find him. what he wants is simply a stable family (<- which he does have in bruce; but does not trust to be able to keep without robin.)
i have mentioned before that it's very important to me that jason most probably forgave sheila. of course, the fact that he tried to save her does not alone confirm it; he would probably do it for anyone, and so it's more of my headcanon, especially since the contemporary canon nearly completely erased her from the narrative up until cheer. but as i said, i prefer to think that he forgave her, as he forgave catherine (if he even ever truly blamed either of them.)
i like to think about his relationship with talia as a parental one too (ignoring the two infamous pages of the lost days), but there's not much canon material, and freshly post-res jason seems fixated on the idea that he is "no one's son." nevertheless, he is also just still a kid when first in her care, and i do think that they could grow into that kind of relationship throughout the years (despite his best efforts to deny himself the comfort of familial connections.)
tbh one of the reasons for which i headcanon that, compared with other kids bruce has taken in, 1. he is the only one who used to call him 'dad' regularly 2. he is the only one who actually settled into a more 'standard' parent-child relationship with him 3. he is the only one who got formally adopted (which "on page" happened only pre-crisis btw), is because jay had a rather traditional expectation of what a bond with a parental figure should look like (and because bruce wanted to overcompensate while working through on jay's attachment issues). the others were either older or did not have a past that conditioned them for such focus on keeping the parent close, so it did not matter much. i think in terms of parental relationships, jason needs to call them by that name and needs formal ways of them being recognized, or at least this is what his abandonment issues call for. at the same time, it also freaks him out because he was a parentified child before and he doesn't think he should need it, so it's a game of pulling closer and pushing away, testing the bonds.
my conclusion is that i don't have much to say about mothers in particular; i think he has plenty conflicting feelings about the parental roles no matter the gender.
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emmatgc · 6 months
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Twin Flame ❤️
Tommy x Grace
The scene of Polly saying "or maybe its time you forget about her" and Tommy replying "forget about who?" is very poignant to me in the whole series and I'm sure to all viewers esp Tommy x Grace shippers. The acting and delivery was superb. The feelings oozing on the screen. We felt it.
Little did we know that line would foreshadow what's gonna happen and expose the mind of Tommy from the beginning, in between the break up, the reunion and her death.
Tommy has always been a conflicted and tormented man. He says this yet does exactly the opposite at times. But with Grace, he is ride or die, hell or heaven, he means what he says. Its black or white regardless his methods are greyish and blurry. Plain and simple, his feelings for Grace was never in question. Never in doubt.
To be fair, he tried to move on. He really did. She held on though. He let her go once, she left. I believe he really believed there's no future for them. I believe he thought he doesn't deserve her for both reasons-she was different and she hurt him. It is very interesting to me that never once Tommy brought up any anger or animosity about the so called "betrayal" of Grace in the show directly. The reunion scene was more of her being married to a rich guy. Hardly real anger. Polly did, yes but in a bigger picture, it is heavily implied, it was her job. An actual job. She got the best of her job and in the process lost her one true love at that time. They say all is fair in love and war but neither was true.
Both lost something. Both used each other. Both hurt each other. But the most amazing thing was? Neither of them cared. Neither was mad enough to let go. Neither was sane enough to move on. Neither was reasonable enough to hate or take revenge against one another. For above all of it was love. Love. Respect. Integrity. They were fighting for causes they believed in. In reality, that is a fight worth fighting for ever damn time.
Tommy fell in love with a woman fighting for a cause she believed in. She was not perfect, oh no, she was very flawed, too. But Tommy?heck he was the worse of them all, the family I mean. No sugar coating. Tommy was not a simple man. He was bad, in a lot of ways. But yes, he had redeemable qualities. Twin flames, they were. For better or worse.
See, their worse is not worse though. Theirs was a shining beacon of hope. What they had was a promise of tomorrow, a brighter future and a peaceful life. All colors of Tommy and Grace were brighter, clearer and bigger. That's deliberate by the show. Not coincidence.
So, 2 years without her don't mean a thing. He chose to let her stay-in his mind, heart and soul. She moved on but see that's one of her biggest mistakes. Grace, for me I believe was the one angry he didn't followed her or stopped her the 1st time. Tommy's ego would not allow that plus Tommy loves Grace too much to force her into staying . He respects her too much to make up her own mind. It upsets many Tommy fans that Tommy was passive, indecisive about Grace like dude, forget about her already! You have your whores, etc..she is just another woman, there will be others as Polly said. Yet, there was none.
Tommy held on. Grace held on. Despite the odds. Both patiently waited under dire circumstances. Both went through the uncertainties and dangers, the family objection, the doomed life and for what? For Love. So, no, nobody forgot. Nobody truly moved on. Nobody let go. Those 2 years be damned. Didn't put a dent to Tommy's feelings. Grace loved Tommy, she came back but Tommy fell harder. She was his oxygen. His air and water. You don't forget that. You simply can't. She leaves him breathless after all.
When after all is said and done, all Grace had to do was say "It's me" and the battlefield is back and Tommy is alive again. Love is a battlefield for Tommy. Grace had no one left only Tommy. Tommy had so many baggage but Grace was a priority. Grace warned her. She took his heart and never gave it back. Not because she doesn't want to but because he doesn't want to give it back nor give it to someone else. He allowed his heart to be taken away, broken and repaired only to be broken again. He doesn't care at all. If Only for her. Only with her. They will always find each other. Twin Flame, Tommy and Grace.
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First off, I wanna say I adore your take here. Killing Steve at this point would be dumb, and I am love loving your take on him realizing what he was looking for is familial love and comfort like el (!!!!!!!!!) cuz honestly steve in any kind of relationship at this point does not work for me whatsoever
though i do have a question, what do you mean by he's bones coded? context clues can tell me you think that means he's going to die, esp considering his original fate in s1, but which character are you comparing him to? (I'm assuming bones is a character)
hi hello!!!!! i just saw you replied back to my post about rambling about steve and i got so excited because i have too many thoughts lol. so i'll answer this out of order, then jump into my thoughts on it.
i wasn't referring to any characters here, just using that same phrase i think i saw either from who i rb'd from or from the og post! :) just i think there are a lot of arguments for why steve could die, and tbh i REALLY thought we were gonna lose him in s4, so i can definitely see why people think steve is like a for sure going to die in s5. i've seen a lot of people discuss it on here, just because of things such as the st*ncy relationship, how his relationship with dustin was a little sidelined this season, and how his arc is "complete" in a sense.
and i mean with this with so much love in my heart because to me, fandom is so much fun and the best part of it is that we're all allowed to have different thoughts/opinions/interpretations (with the caveat that these opinions shouldn't be harmful to people or people groups) of the media, but i STRONGLY disagree. and here's why.
i was thinking this morning about how interesting of a character steve harrington is when we meet him. he's the stereotypical jock, cool boyfriend for nancy's girl next door kind of trope. he's wealthy and popular and well-loved. on the surface, steve has everything you could want, right? outsider looking in sees a kid well taken care of (familial love), with lots of friends (platonic love), and a beautiful girlfriend (romantic love).
but that's just not the case. because we also learn that steve's parents don't really give a shit about him, and they're never around. we see that his popularity is surface level—that tommy and carol don't actually care about steve as a person and are just kind of existing, because they too are miserable in the overarching hawkins/small town sort of ideal. but then you have nancy wheeler, is is unabashedly herself, who went through basically hell to try and find her best friend, and who essentially kicked steve's ass into shape and showed him... hey, maybe i can be better. (which steve himself tells nancy in s4)
so i think personally, steve has projected his need for love and also the gratitude he feels from being afforded the opportunity and realization to change onto his romantic relationships—particularly his relationship with nancy.
let's rewind for a moment and talk about the other major love triangle in stranger things.
now, by no means whatsoever am i trying to say el and steve's backgrounds are comparable, because while steve does have an implied difficult relationship with his parents, this obviously can't compare to the abuse el endured. they are two characters with separate backgrounds, personalities, and story arcs, and i love them both so much for all those differences. but narrowing it down to how both steve and el are members of a love triangle with a wheeler and a byers kid, and how i believe both steve and el will end up as the member of the love triangle who remains single, i think there's something to be said here about the way parts of their arcs parallel each other.
with el's case, unlike steve, we're never given the facade that she's happy and should be happy. nope, we're introduced to her from the get go as someone who is lacking love of any kind in her life—so much so that she doesn't even know what a friend is. el has never ever experienced familial, platonic, or romantic love, but then she meets mike (and dustin and lucas). but it's mike she first connects with. mike who first shows her kindness and teaches her friendship. this, then quickly advances to something romantic, and isn't necessarily something el understands. but she "learns" it from her time in hopper's cabin by watching movies and tv shows.
similar to how steve has projected his need for love and also the gratitude he feels from how nancy helped him to change, el has projected her own need for love and gratitude for how mike showed her kindness onto their relationship. they stumble quickly into codependency in s2 and definitely in s3, and we see how that damages both of them by the time we hit s4.
so, we now have two characters who really don't have much in common except for the fact that they began their stories lacking in familial and platonic love (and romantic in el's case as well), found it early on in their story arcs, then proceeded to be 1/2 of what are two arguably toxic couples wherein neither one of the partners of these couples are having their needs met. both couples break up at some point. both then are rekindled, or have begun to be rekindled. both are left a bit open-ended by the time s4 ends.
now, let's talk about the other side of the story: the byers brothers. contrary to steve and to el, we meet jonathan and will, and we fairly quickly learn that they do have a support system. they do have familial love (through their mom and through each other), and in will's case, he also has platonic love through the party. the byers brothers begin in contrast to steve and el, because i think they have a better understanding then in that sense of what's familial vs platonic vs romantic. and because of this, their story arcs don't invlove them elevating this romantic love on a higher level than their platonic and familial relationships.
we see this evidenced in how both jonathan and will step aside and push their feelings away from their wheeler sibling in order to preserve their friendship with them as well as do what is best for nancy and mike. jonathan did it in s2, letting nancy believe that steve asked him to drop her home. will gives up his painting and confession and says el asked him to make it for mike. furthermore, we see that neither of them are trying to advance their relationships with nancy and mike further than a friendship. s2 jonathan actually sort of does the opposite and distances himself from nancy until she initiates, whereas s4 will really just shows us that he wants his best friend back.
two other characters, with similar backgrounds (makes sense, they are brothers) with similar understandings of the different types of loves they've grown up with and experienced, are introduced as a "third" member of two love triangle that are left unresolved by the end of the penultimate season.
so, then, to circle back to how this relates to steve, i say all of this to say: i believe both steve and el's story arcs will end with them having an understanding that their platonic and familial relationships and love they've gained are just as valid and fulfilling as the potential for romantic relationships. the other thing i didn't touch a whole lot on is the fact that throughout steve's arc and throughout el's arc, yes, we do see each of these characters gaining a romantic partner, but more than that? we see them gaining friends and family.
look me in the eye and tell me who's most associated with steve harrington. it's not nancy. it's dustin, or it's robin. steve's biggest character growth comes from how he befriends and mentors dustin and then how he befriends and learns from robin. he even makes the comment about 6 little nuggets and having experience because of the party members? and yeah, that right there tells me that steve's character is being developed and built around his familial/platonic relationships. his two most important relationships established in the show are not romantic.
(similarly, and i won't go into it as much because this post isn't about her, el is strongly associated with her relationships to hopper, the dad she finds who helps her heal from her abuser, and max, her best friend who helps her learn how to be el and pursue her own likes and dislikes. again, two of the most important relationships for this character are not necessarily romantic... though we all know my thoughts on how elmax/elumax should totally become canon lol.)
so, now we come back to s4, and it feels like one step forward two steps back for steve and for el. s4 is a season built on grief. on how to react in the midst of change and distance and separation from the people you love. it's a bit ironic that steve has his speech about crawling forwards/backwards because in trying to bring up and hold onto his flame with nancy, he is essentially taking a step backwards.
steve is still caught in this mindset and a lack of understanding the fact that he can be happy, and he can be whole and valued as a person without a romantic partner. it's something he's shown to want, but also? we see in his s3 interactions with dustin that so much of steve's dating life is motivated by his need to be liked and with someone "cool" (which is why, bless his heart, dustin tries to push steve towards robin). he gets frustrated by his lack of having a partner because he's dating and dating and dating, and it just isn't working—so he falls back into trying to recreate that s1 magical feeling of change and of getting to become a better person, which nancy helped to motivate.
anyways, when i look at steve's story, i just don't think it's done yet. i don't think he's learned that he can be happy on his own, and i think he has learned bits and pieces of this along the way as he's loved and helped dustin, as he and robin have loved and helped each other, and even as he and nancy have loved and helped each other. i don't think it's wrong for steve to want these dreams of a big, happy family that is the opposite of what he received growing up, but i just think that a satisfying end to steve's arc will be him realizing that he doesn't have to rush into that. that good things take time, and god, look how happy he is right now, surrounded by his child friends (who aren't children anymore? holy shit the kids he babysat are now 17-18 years old?) and by the friends his age (because robin duh, but also i am here for steve and nancy becoming friends and putting their romantic relationship in the past, and i am ALSO here for a steve and jonathan reconciliation since that has not been touched since their s1 fight). the found family he's gained throughout his story is enough, and he, like el, i believe is going to represent that form of familial and platonic love in the relationships he's part of.
stranger things is such a good story in that it covers familial relationships, platonic relationships, and romantic relationships, and i'm pretty confident the duffers are going to do both love triangles justice and slot them into their right places. because within both the older teen love triangle and the younger teen love triangle, there is a lot of love to be shared—just a bit of a mismatch as to what type of love goes where.
(also. this is not really part of the serious analysis, but i'm sorry. i think the dumbest, shittiest thing you can do in a show like this is complete a character's story arc and show how they've grown as a character, then just kill them off with no motivating reason. how would steve's death progress the plot forward? and if you're going to say it would give them all a reason to keep fighting, i'm gonna call bs on that because i think there are plenty of other reasons these people have to keep fighting. also their canonical main fighter, el, is not that close with steve. so. next.
i also didn't touch on how steve's death would impact both dustin and robin, and you know what, i'm also gonna be bold and say nancy. you wanna tell me they'd kill two brother figures in dustin's life? you wanna tell me they'd kill one of robin's first friends, the first one she opened up to with a secret she was so scared of telling? you wanna tell me that they'd cause nancy to lose another friend—the same friend who was there with her the night that nancy's upside down related trauma began with the loss of barb? NO. it would be such an injustice to steve's arc and to other characters' arcs, and i will die on that hill.)
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@bandousama replied to your post:
hi and ty for the questions about my silly little au! i love making ideas about it here and even getting some inputs from you guys! putting this under the cut since my response ended up being lengthy. pls feel free to ask any more questions or share your own thoughts!
Is this going to be a story?
I really do want to write this out, but unfortunately i dont really have any writing skills 🫤 it took me a while to draft out these few paragraphs that were meant to be a synopsis/prologue. maybe someday i’ll come around to write quick drabbles?? but if i have any writers following me, i’d be happy to commission this fic!
Will there be any drama between y/n and Shouhei? Like including a fight scene or something?
Even if this never gets written, i do imagine this au to have a lot of drama and the relationship between shouhei and y/n to become toxic (it’s inevitable; he’s a rockstar and she’s a model. there will be drug use and morals will be compromised to achieve fame). Both of them are also not in the right headspace in some parts of the story, with shouhei spiraling as he tries to make his own identity as a soloist, and y/n trying to make it alive in a cutthroat industry through any means possible.
In the synopsis, Shouhei is immediately reminded of those little ballerina figurines when he first sees y/n (y’k, the little docile ones that seems so fragile and is always locked away when the box is not being used). he gets infatuated and soon idealizes her as this pretty doll that he has to lock her away protect from this soul-sucking industry, purposely ignoring the fact that y/n is a complex person with her own flaws and bad decisions.
*spoiler alert* y/n has a bf when she meets shouhei, who she ends up cheating on with him
Is the rock band mainly about the abc boys or all of hrm?
All of hmr are featured, but i think I would focus more on the abc boys since im more interested in them
Is this a story just about Shouhei or all the other guys getting their own as well?
It’s primarily about shouhei, but the other guys also have their own unresolved issues and relationships to work out, which will def be mentioned bc i want to give all of the boys extra depth and characterization. i think i can see chitose being the secondary abc boy in this particular fic, since he’s the one in the worst condition out of the boys, and bc i lowkey might make shouhei and chitose have a closer friendship in this fic. basically a friendship where they get fucked up together and make even more bad decisions. but if i really were to write this out, i’d want each boys to have their own spin off.
What inspired you to think of this au?
its funny cause i was reading this fic in another fandom where person A is this fashion critic who attends a show where person B is modeling and they’re both immediately attracted to each other, when i was like ok but imagine shouhei in this au?? But i can’t see shouhei as some fashion critic, which is when I remember that i have this other au where the boys are like this popular rock band (used to be pop idol group when i first thought of this au), and that fits more since celebrities visit fashion shows (also guys, please ask me about this au too cause i have lot of thoughts about rockstars!hmr and the pop idol girl group thats their competition in terms of international popularity). only difference is that fic did not feature any toxic dynamics lol. also! the whole idea about hmr taking a break as a group, the members pursuing solo endeavors during the break, and shouhei making a lot of noise by being the first member to attend a high fashion event is based off the first few months of bts’ hiatus last year lmaoooo
Since Shouhei is the lead vocalist what do the other band members do?
I actually haven’t thought much of that, esp since hmr is too huge to be one band. so what i was thinking that maybe theyre all split up in different acts under the same company: mikoto originally being a solo rock artist before calling it quits because he couldnt handle the fame. he eventually forms his own small company that aligns better with his values. we have totsuka as the dreamy soloist who sings romantic ballads and wins the nation’s heart, yata and kamamoto being a hip-hop duo with lots of break dances, the abc boys being a rock band, and kusanagi being the manager who keeps everyone in check (look idk if this actually works out like this irl but canon has mikoto having an ample amount of money in savings and kusanagi owning tons of restaurants overseas so 🤷‍♀️)
with the abc boys, shouhei is the lead vocalist, chitose and dewa play the guitars, eric and fuji plays the bass with eric serving back up vocals, and bandou plays the drums.
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@crimsongrimoire here: #okay honestly the last name part bugs me too#doesnt it STILL say on the wiki that a former alias was their last name#like what is your proof! cite your fucking sources!#literally somehow one of the worst wikis ive been interested in#so many sources of made up ass info are just like trust me bro#and the gross oversimplification of their dynakic#*dynamic jesus.#like idk you can prefer them platonically idgaf. just dont make shit up wholesale to sell a narrative that doesnt exist.#(...not to say klk enjoyers dont as well But. brother insisters are so much worse about it)#(so few genshin fans have reading comprehension at all fr)#its just such a mess. you can just Say you dont see them romantically. you wont die. i promise#no need to have 10 banners and 20 tags with posturing about how you want klk shippers to choke and die#when theres like Literally nothing Inherently Wrong with it#though people who say shit like 'yeah well it WOULD be hot if they WERE brothers so!'#you are not helping the cause#the 'making people mad on purpose for fun to make them look dumb' works so rarely and almost never over fandom nonsense#either way big agree op#fave#funnily this is the same kinda people who are all like AWWWW HIDDEN STRIFE WAS SWEET IT WASNT SAD AT ALL#and like completely misreading the tone of like All the letters esp those between kaeya and diluc#which is funny cause like Every post ive seen on the subject has been about Them and That part and how AWWW THEY KEPT I CONTACT?!?!#when.... the letters on both sides carry very palpable senses of tension from the wording and esp the brevity of dilucs#some very minor but painful details#and just in general all the letters in question like.. while it was nice diluc was getting support#it was in the WORST circumstance. its incredibly melancholy and bittersweet. like yes its nice to know everyone cares.#but also it was so avoidable. but also at the same time nobodys fault. even though both of them kick themselves for it#remembered my other point DILUC ONLY REPLIED TWICE. TO KAEYAS 9 LETTERS. THAT IS NOT KEEPING CONTACT!#there is no reason kaeya wouldnt have put any other letters from him with the others tbh unless theyre recent in which case#kinda irrelevant. thats not 'keeping contact' theyre in the same place now like Often.#ngl we have no indication if kaeya got those letters to him somehow or just left them for his return.
Literally like!! Genshin fandom has actually been one of the worse fandom experiences for me, and I think we can blame a lot of it on the game and its translation, but also it’s just so goddamn frustrating at times. That klc post was written before hidden strife but if anything the event further confirmed that their dynamic wasn’t ‘adopted siblings’ (despite eng translation as usual messing up everything including Kaeya’s opinion of their fight) and that Kaeya doesn’t view himself as a Ragnvindr. 
An AU where Kaeya would have been fully adopted could be potentially interesting, actually! Ragbros AU if you will. But for some reason people never really go for all the implications of that - how strongly it would influence Kaeya’s internal conflict and his abandonment issues, how Diluc would change his treatment of Kaeya, how differently another Ragnvindr progeny would be viewed in Mondstadt, would he succeed the Dawn Winery’s business, so many possibilities... But no, they simply take canon klc dynamic and twist it, ignoring all the discrepancies which point to a non-familial relationship. That tag is just one more annoying attempt at censure within fandom spaces, familiar to anyone who ever interpreted fictional relationships as homoerotic before (how dare you tarnish this beautiful brotherly or sisterly bond by your sinful delusions etc etc yawn). And big agree about Hidden Strife letters, they still represent the usual dynamic as is the norm for all those temporary events. But fandom sadly tends to go for extreme interpretations, either the characters totally hate each other or they are secretly totally fine and getting along splendidly... I guess maybe people are getting tired of this kind of one-sided relationship, so they want some kind of resolution one way or another, but I kind of like the place Kaeya and Diluc are in right now. It would be nice to get some more Diluc POV just to confirm whether he cares in a detached way or in a barely suppressed passionate & deep way, and/or if perhaps he does carry some hateful feelings towards Kaeya, but otherwise it’s just a really good starting off point for creating fan content.  Speaking only for myself, but it’s all the more bittersweet that there is a possibility that they won’t reconcile after all, that their paths might diverge, that their ideologies might already be irreconcilable without us knowing, that Diluc maybe doesn’t really care that much after all. With this in mind, positive outcomes such as reconciliation, a romantic relationship or a rekindling of friendship, are so much more impactful. 
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https:// twitter.com/chescaleigh/status/1704457124959637787
Thoughts re: that tweet and this whole topic and exchange, but i'm really fucking tired and need to sleep so i can't be coherent so i'm not joining the convo on there
chesca is a black woman and that 100% has something to do with this. people CONSTANTLY ask marginalized folks incredibly stupid, easy to search, simple, basicass questions and DEMAND that they spend their time and energy holding their hand and answering them thoroughly and catering to their millions of potentially bad-faith questions
so telling her that it's a normal wonderful human socialization i'm like stfu what are you even talking about
this is a manifestation of an already extant behavior that was learned because of social stratification and prejudice
it doesn't exist in a vacuum and it's ridiculous to act as though it does
ALSO
there's a difference btwn
'this is a really interesting topic! is there somewhere specific that i should start looking for more info abt it?'
and
'what is this book abt? does it cover x? where can i get it? does it have an audiobook?'
the first question recognizes a broader category of something that might be more complicated and nuanced and implies that you trust the person's insight--or the fellow commenters' insight--and so you're seeking guidance to start looking yourself, bc you want to make sure you're reading reputable stuff to begin with. important and cool, esp in this day and age w everything being completely fucked over by "ai"
chesca gives an example here too https:// twitter.com/chescaleigh/status/1704453512871264448
the second question is purely entitle to that person's time and energy and a lack of curiosity abt your own fucking ability to look shit up yourself
for example, a comedian who--on EVERY platform they have, on EVERY post they make--says "here are my current tour dates. to find out when i'm in your city, sign up for my text and/or email list"
and people comment "when are you coming to my city?"
MAYBE READ THE FUCKING TEN DOZEN CAPTIONS THAT FUCKING TOLD YOU WHERE YOU FIND THIS FUCKING INFORMATION YOU ENTITLED DIPSHIT
and also https:// twitter.com/JennyWHOA/status/1704348165426622465 this reply to franchesca
like ??? you have a world of information at your fucking fingertips but you won't do a quick google or other search engine search for a SIMPLE EXCHANGE? it would take, at most, 10 seconds. literally what the fuck.
i think the other part of this is like, mindless algorithm training.
everything has been automated and uses datamined bullshit. they simply purchase all of your information and i think gen z in particular has gotten into the habit of having everything fed to them
hence the whole thing w the use of ao3 and deleting/reposting their fics "for the algorithm" which again DOES NOT EXIST, AO3 IS A FUCKING ARCHIVE, among other things
i know we have joked in the past abt having to go past the second page of google results, but that was when it was an actually functioning search engine. and you'd probably find your answer within the first 5.
now? good fucking luck.
so on the one hand i can't entirely blame them, the enshittification of the internet is happening at the same time as they're being brainwashed and coddled by the algorithm training and all that shit
but it is ridiculously frustrating when ppl demand shit like this
get into the habit of looking shit up yourself, holy fucking shit
i cannot express the lengths i go to before asking someone a question
i think it through myself
i give it a few quick searches
i scout around a little bit more for context
and if i'm still somehow unclear and can't find anything, THEN--
i will evaluate whether this is crucial information or something useless and silly
and then if it's important or relevant to me, THEN i will ask what is going on
there's a chance that sometimes i swing too hard the other way bc i fear being irritating to other people, so ppl don't have to follow my example exactly
but also what i do really isn't that much and doesn't take that long
anyway the original video that it was all about/started by
https:// twitter.com/55mmbae/status/1703521133507862801
is this obsessive individualistic and entitled bullshit
this person apparently made a second video that was about how this is also emotional and moral immaturity and basically parading around trying to prove to other people how morally pure and perfect and superior you are by asking this kind of shit
and i think it's true, and also this sickening individualism and entitlement
like
"hey my algorithm is made exactly for me, so why is this video not made exactly for me? why didn't you think abt me before making it and appearing in my feed? >:("
i legitimately think that some ppl have so little thought abt this process that THAT is the way they approach these videos and this 'content'
the algorithm is for them, so why isn't everything? when the algorithm gets it wrong, it's like they considering interfacing w tiktok to be the same as interfacing w the specific person who made this ONE video
and i think this behavior has a more negative counterpart or flavor
and that is
"your positivity post made me, personally, upset, so i'm going to respond directly to you and to everyone who can see this post and tell you all to feel ashamed for enjoying it or having it make you feel better, bc it made ME feel bad, and you didn't consider that. how dare you feel positivity abt something that isn't actually harmful to anyone, but hurt my feelings personally and possibly hurt other people's feelings, too."
i JUST saw an example of this on here bc of how notifications work and it pissed me the fuck off, but i'll use something else as an example instead
the trend on here of the arguing over what counts as REAL self-care
that shit
someone will say "self-care is forcing yourself to do the chores and self-caretaking stuff you don't wanna do, bc it will actually help your health and help you feel better"
and someone goes
"wow this is so fucking ableist. i can't keep myself clean or brush my teeth and fuck you for holding us to this incredibly ableist standard."
doesn't matter if the original post said "in whatever way works for you" or didn't even mention specific methods of hygiene, this person gets angry and insecure and lashes out
and instead of making their own post about it to help other people like them
they respond to that post, where EVERYONE and op can see and will get notifs about it, and make them feel bad for sharing a piece of advice or a post that actually DID help them
bc like the video says: incredibly, sometimes, you are just NOT THE TARGET AUDIENCE FOR THAT THING
have i read a positivity post and gone "wow this made me feel bad about myself. welp, doesn't apply to me, i'm gonna process my own feelings and move on, bc the post itself didn't actually do anything wrong."
for example
"i hope everyone knows that there's no deadline for relationship/dating experience or life milestones! just bc you haven't kissed someone by 25 doesn't make you immature or bad or anything!"
now am i 28, almost 29, and still have never dated someone? yes. did this fictional example post based on some stuff i've actually seen make me incidentally feel kind of shitty? yep, it did.
however--
25 was an arbitrary age they chose as an example. there's nothing in the text of the post that suggests they think that's "too old" or THE cut-off point, past which you're pathetic
the post itself was positive, and is likely aimed at ppl who think life is over at 25 bc they're super young and everything feels high stakes
and at one point, that would've been me--
but it no longer is, and so i am not the target audience.
and so what do i do?
i ignore the fucking post and move on with my life.
what do i NOT do?
reply to the post, so that it appears in the notifs of op and whoever rbed the version i'm seeing, to say
"WOW how fucking dare you cut it off at 25. so what, ppl who never have a relationship are failures? we still have to meet all these life milestones, period, to be considered a decent and successful person? what the fuck is this."
to do that would mean that i fully, in bad faith, read WAY too much into what they were saying, and made it about MY feelings and emotional reaction to a COMPLETELY INNOCENT POST THAT WAS MEANT TO HELP MAKE PEOPLE FEEL BETTER
now before anyone does a bad faith "but what about" response to my own fucking point
a post that says
"it's okay to get married after the age of 25, a lot of ppl do it, the important thing is that you find someone and are married and can start building your family :)"
is a shitty post that holds people up to social norms and standards and has a lot of VERY CLEARLY baked in assumptions and judgments.
it would be totally fair, if you wanted to, to reply and say "hey dude have you considered that ppl don't actually have to get married or have a family to have a fulfilling life?"
bc you aren't responding to your own personal reaction/feelings abt the post and how it's not FOR you
it's about how this is a general standard that they are applying to ALL people, so EVERYONE is the target audience, and that is fucked up
there is a DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THOSE EXAMPLE POSTS
i just think it's shitty to take someone's post that IS positive and does NOT perpetuate incredibly harmful assumptions about how life should work, and respond publicly to make them feel BAD abt not having psychically predicted that you in your specificass situation would NOT find the post helpful or positive
like hey if the advice or perspective is not helpful for you, then it's not for you. if it's helpful to other people, they don't have to ignore shit that's actually helpful for them just so it doesn't hurt some imaginary possible person's feelings.
like that is a ridiculous fucking thing to expect.
if positivity makes your teeth hurt and makes you angry? hell yeah be angry about it. get irritated! complain!
on your own post or with your own friends/acquaintances/groups/family who Get It
bc unless someone has actually done something hurtful and wrong, the post was just not targeted at you.
but bc you saw it and it pissed you off, you can (and should!) complain abt it somewhere else bc complaining and processing is fucking GOOD, man.
just don't fucking dump all over everyone else's nice, supportive time with each other.
or as the video says
don't fucking comment "but what if i hate beans" on a video about HOW TO MAKE A FUCKING BEAN SOUP
i really need to go the fuck to sleep i'm so tired
also here i am complaining about and sharing thoughts about other posts and stuff that i've seen because it irritated me or whatever
SO I AM CLEARLY IN FAVOR OF DOING THAT
JUST DO IT IN A PLACE WHERE YOU'RE NOT NEEDLESSLY SHITTING ON OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T REALLY DONE ANYTHING WRONG
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late night deep melancholy
[parents, abuse(?) (the question isn't if it's abuse the question is idfk how to label it]
i am. really so fucking bummed. that my mother didn't find neither the baja hoodie nor the sarape i bought with my best friend in mexico. i really wish my parents had a different reaction to not finding it. I don't understand how they couldn't find them, but fuck me i guess. i really wish that upon hearing that i wanted them but they didn't find them they didn't just fucking get me amazon-quality replacements. one doesn't even smell like cotton and had made in china packaging.
it wasn't the items, it was the sentimentality. the meaning. cheapened. when they go to mexico to visit family every year, apparently amazon-quality bullshit suffices as a "replacement" for irreplaceable goods.
for ten years my parents have been talking about taking a trip to japan as part of their retirement and they of course wanted me (the only person fluent in Japanese in the whole family) along. 5 years ago or so when it became clearer that that time was coming, they started making superficial plans about it and i said i'd love to be along but i didn't want to really do the whole, tour thing. that they love to do. they immediately got upset and pissy and insinuated i'd just be uninvited from the whole thing. i replied well that's dumb lol and it left on a "we'll figure it out later." bc of the pandemic that kind of became later later, but like i didn't mind, esp when i'm suffering longterm covid effects right now.
today i learned that they're leaving for japan in less than a month and they didn't tell me that they were like. doing that. i'm not along for the ride, of course. i guess they figured i'd be too "busy" or i wouldn't care.
it's not the fact that they're in japan at all, it's that showing care and interest in my interests (carved with blood sweat and tears bc learning any language is hard but learning Japanese is very hard), my input, was all conditional and superficial. as i've grown i've met people who would like...Just wait. for their kid to not be busy to go to the place they've dedicated 15 years of their life to learning about. Or they'd actually work with their adult child.
i don't know man. I always expect nothing and yet i'm still let down and it's so stupid that it hurts so much every time. i wish they Actually cared about me and what I do.
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🌫 PLEASE I RAN HERE AS SOON AS MY PHONE GOT THE NOTIFICATION M1CKEYB3RRY REPLIED ILL ANSWER THE OTHER ASKS IN A LITTLE WHILE BC I HAVE TO GET UP EARLY TMR BUT OMG… THESE SNEAK PEAKS???? I AM SORRY BUT IM ABOUT TO BRAIN DUMP HERE…
the maiden tag one😭 wondering what eren could’ve done that made y/n so angry but i seriously love how entertaining maiden tag is… this was a nice start to the sneak peaks because the angst dials up in your other works 💀
AND IN SWEAR Y/N IS SO CUTE OMGGG her being with eren the whole time… swear y/n deserves the best she’s such a sweetheart 🙁
with hostis humani generis i can already see why y/n turned out to be a jaegerist😭 you really characterized her different from your other y/ns ik i’m gonna love reading this, her perspective is gonna be so interesting and of course someone’s childhood doesn’t define them, but i can see that with the way y/n was raised by her dad she’s gonna see the world very differently and i can kinda see how she could grow into a more morally gray person UGHHH IM EXCITED FOR THIS ONE
and i saved sith for last because i really do not know what to say yet i have so many fucking QUESTIONS … IS THIS THE UPCOMING CHAPTER?? THERES A TIMESKIP? WHERE DID Y/N GO WHEN SHE WAS AWAY FROM THEM?? WHAT HAPPENED OMGG DONT TELL ME THEY FELL OUT.. i am so confused and you really chose angst for this one huh😭 i remember how i once said i hoped colt would never leave or turn against y/n or something like that and i don’t know what’s going on here but😭 i really wanna know how colt and friedrich’s relationship with y/n changed, i feel like this might be where you’re making sith begin to get really angsty..
HAHAHA OMGG I FEEL SO FLATTERED 😩
maiden tag is so silly and y/n loves to bash eren in it LMAOOO. their rivalry is hilarious to me esp because in all of my other works w eren he’s a simp for y/n 😭
hostis humani generis def is darker and y/n is a lot different in it! her family relationships are very different…for clarification her father is kenny!! and her “brother” is levi — this is before her and levi know they’re actually related. her growing up in the underground is a key part of her motivations and growth as well! she’s going to be very interesting and morally grey for sure.
swear y/n deserves everything in the world. she’s the best 😭
yes this is the upcoming chapter for SitH! there’s not a timeskip, this is in reference to the time that y/n spent with the amatas. but yes the main three’s relationships with one another are going to change substantially this arc!! they’ve already started to ngl. and this arc is in fact when things get angsty…a big reveal is coming up near the end of it that i’ve been talking about for a while now and i can’t believe we’re almost there!!
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ian + mickeys neck (was thinking of the drunk ian fic and wondered if you would be interested in pursuing this idea further?) <3
anon i am CRYING thank u so much for this!!!! i have been feeling like i need to make my contribution to the “mickey’s neck” discourse for a while lmao and this is my opportunity (esp bc ian holding mickey in the 11x12 stills wrecked me)
in the spirit of following up 11x10 i decided to write this based on an amazing post @mickey-millagher made/a prompt that @pombby sent me about ian teaching mickey to swim at a public pool during lockdown at some point early s11- i hope u enjoy<3
(this is the tiniest notch steamier than what i usually write but it isn’t smutty fyi- tw for descriptions of choking😌)
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There was no one at the park— the air hung heavy and humid over the empty picnic tables and wooden benches that punctuated the fields of dying grass. As much as people on the Southside were definitely not taking any part of this lockdown shit seriously, it didn’t surprise Ian how silent the public park was— there was still a scarcer number of people out on their stoops or lounging on street corners this summer. Ian guessed that the few people who didn’t think that this was a hoax realized that this COVID shit was serious enough that they couldn’t afford healthcare if they got it, or whatever— but regardless, that meant that this Southside summer was weirdly stagnant somehow, and felt different from the noisy and crowded rhythms of summers past.
It was the late morning, just as the air started heat like a convection oven as the sun rose over the skyline— and Ian had his heart set on teaching Mickey to swim today. The conversation had come up last night at dinnertime, when Debbie was complaining about the heat wave— and they had all started reminiscing about the rickety, tin-sided pool they used to put up in the backyard years ago until Carl had taken a hatchet to it when he was 11 when he was trying to tear it down. Sitting next to Mickey at the kitchen table, thighs pressed where their chairs were scooted close together, Ian had suddenly remembered his words from their road trip to the border, years ago now:
“You could try swimming across the border.”
“I never learned how, man.”
And he’d immediately opened his mouth, not catching the words before they moved from his brain to his mouth, and asked Mickey in the middle of the dinnertime chatter: “Hey Mick, did you ever actually learn to swim?”
It was funny, and arbitrary, and stupid; they were married now, but for some reason this small fact about Mickey, the fact that he used to not know how to swim and by now he might have learned without Ian’s knowledge, made something warm pool in Ian’s stomach. He’d known Mickey, and had been itching to be closer and closer to him, for a full decade—and there were still so many things that he didn’t know. And this was proof, this question that Ian still didn’t have the answer to about some weirdly fundamental aspect of Mickey’s identity— he was always going to want to keep asking things about Mickey. And he was always going to get to.
Mickey had looked him with daggers in his eyes, then flickered a defensive glance at all the smirks growing on Ian’s siblings’ faces. “Fuck you. I was doing plenty of other shit in Mexico, didn’t really get the chance to lounge on the fucking beach.”
Ian had reached under the table and placed a hand on Mickey’s knee—a peace offering, an apology for whatever Mickey-can’t-swim quips Carl and Lip would inevitably think up as a low blow the next time they all butted heads at breakfast time— but as the chatter about backyard pools and heat waves continued at the dinner table, Ian felt an idea stirring.
Which is why the next morning he’d woken his husband up by pressing a tender kiss to his jawbone, both of their skin damp and clammy from the heat in the stuffy bedroom, and whispered into his neck:
“I wanna try something today.”
Mickey’s mind had immediately veered in… other directions, his eyebrows raising in vaguely disappointed disbelief when Ian had explained his idea to go to the public pool and teach Mickey to swim with an exuberant grin on his face; but after some very enticing morning persuasion that had a lot to do with the fact that Mickey was still half asleep while Ian had pressed kisses down his spine and dragged him out of bed and handed him a pair of swim trunks, now they were at the public pool in the nearest park at midday, with Ian leading the way and Mickey dubiously and sleepily straggling behind him.
Ian slid open the lock on the chain-link fence that surrounded the pool, the same pool that was usually crawling with groups of teenagers smoking weed and toddlers in floaties who were sticky with melted ice cream on a summer day like today. And maybe he was just all hopped up on nostalgia, but Ian was feeling cheerful— there was a lightness to the blinding summer sunshine, radiating through him as it pooled on his skin, that made him feel weirdly exhilarated and giddy about teaching Mickey to swim in this grimy Southside pool, just because he could.
“I still can’t believe you never learned how to swim.” Ian said it over his shoulder as he strode through the gate, holding it open for Mickey.
Mickey just flipped him off, following behind him and setting down two towels and the 6-pack of beers he’d grabbed from the fridge as they’d shuffled out the door minutes before. Ian grinned. He knew the beers would be warm and syrupy in minutes—the air was muggy and humid, without any hint of a breeze for relief. Ian could already feel the sweat dripping down the back of his t-shirt; he peeled it off as he walked over the sunwarmed concrete towards the pool’s edge, crumpling the shirt and throwing it on top of the pile with the beers and the towels. Mickey was hesitant, not following Ian to the border of the water just yet.
“Seriously. I can’t count the number of times I was shoved into our bacteria-infested backyard pool when I was a kid. I’m pretty sure that Frank tried to drown me in there at one point.”
Mickey just shrugged noncommittally, his fingers slack around the bottom hem of his shirt and his eyes zeroing in on the pool of water. Ian thought Mickey would say something in reply— but the only sound in the air was the faint shouting of kids playing a basketball game the street over.
Holy shit. Ian had been so buoyant and excited about his nostalgia-fueled idea of going to the public pool on a summer day and teaching his husband to swim, dragging Mickey out of the house without a second thought, that he hadn’t realized it until now— Mickey was scared.
Ian swallowed down the grin that was threatening to overtake his face— one he knew that Mickey would immediately notice and hate, because he it drove him crazy when people gave him shit in vulnerable moments like this, when Mickey couldn’t do something. So instead Ian kept talking, hoping his chatter would loosen some of Mickey’s nerves.
“Didn’t you and your brothers ever go down to the other pool over on Trumbull?”
Mickey met Ian’s eyes then, raising an annoyed eyebrow. “Clearly not.”
And, okay. This was understandably bringing up some childhood shit. Ian tried to snap Mickey out of his head— he strode over to where Mickey was standing, a good six feet from the poolside, and snaked a hand onto the back of his neck, squeezing gently in what he hoped was a grounding and comforting touch that would drain the trepidation from Mickey’s defensive stance.
“One summer Debbie was so afraid of getting drowned at the public pool that she learned how to hold her breath for 4 minutes.” Ian grinned at the memory of Debbie dunking her head in a tub of water in the kitchen, making him and Lip time her. “Honestly, it was probably for the best you never went to the public pool. It was a shit show.”
Mickey scoffed, but the lightness was back in his eyes. “If I knew how to swim back in the day I probably woulda been the one doing the drowning.”
Ian barked out a laugh— and why did he immediately turn back into his 15-year-old self, with a god-awful crush on Mickey Milkovich, whenever Mick said shit like that? He pressed his lips into a smile, squeezing Mickey’s shoulder once more for good measure.
“Yeah, yeah. Okay, king of the Southside. You ready to get in the water?” Ian’s hand trailed down from its grasp on Mickey’s shoulderblades, dropping to encircle Mickey’s wrist and guide him towards the water.
Mickey immediately recoiled, yanking his hand from Ian’s hold and taking a step back, squinting and holding up a hand to block the bright rays of sun out of his eyes now that he wasn’t standing in Ian’s shadow.
“Fuck d’you mean? I’m not just gonna fucking hop in there and drown. You gotta show me what to do.”
Ian grinned again, without being able to hold it back. He knew what Mickey was like when he was afraid of something— defensive and grumbly and avoidant to touch. He rolled his eyes. “Can’t really teach you to swim when we’re not in the water, Mick. C’mon.”
Ian walked over to sit on the edge, then slid his torso down into the pool. The water was lukewarm and tepid, barely providing any relief from the sticky air— but it felt nice. Ian let out a little breath of relief from the heat as he waded over to the shallow end. Mickey was still standing by the mound of the towels the ground, watching him warily. Ian raised his eyebrows.
“You coming?”
Rolling his eyes, Mickey aggravatedly pulled off his shirt, tossing it behind him— sunrays bounced off of Mickey’s pale skin, owing mostly to the fact that Mickey had barely left the house in the last few weeks because of their prolonged “honeymoon.” He slowly walked to the very edge of the pool and, in a movement that made Ian’s heart grow ten sizes, hesitantly dipped a toe into the water like a cat trying to paw at something. A corner of Mickey’s mouth flickered downwards almost imperceptibly, a worry line sprouting on his forehead.
“I don’t know, man.”
Ian breathed out a laugh. Leave it to Mickey Milkovich, shit-talking king of the Southside, to be afraid of the shallow end of a public pool. Ian reached out a hand in what he hoped was a comforting gesture, still smiling like a sappy motherfucker at his painfully endearing husband.
“C’mon Mick, just stand here with me first.” Ian was waist-deep in the shallow end, the water pressing against his upper thighs— he knew that at this height the water would be at Mickey’s waist, right where his swim trunks met his hipbones.
Mickey’s brows furrowed from where he was still perched on the concrete lip of the pool ledge, his two feet firmly rooted. “Explain what I gotta do first. To swim, or whatever.”
Ian blew out a breath, still grinning like an idiot. “It’s not that hard, Mick. You just gotta circle your arms and circle your legs. But you have to get in the water first.”
Ian treaded over, pushing through the water to where he could rest his upper arms on the edge of the pool beside where Mickey was standing, staring up at him with what he hoped was a convincingly pleading face. Mickey’s eyes were still fixated on the water, lapping at the pool’s edge from where Ian had rippled through it. And suddenly Ian had an idea.
With a teasing grin, he reached a wet hand out from the water and encircled it around Mickey’s ankle, splattering the concrete with drops of water. Mickey immediately jerked like an electric shock had jolted through his body.
“You gonna come in, or do I have to make you?”
Mickey tried to shake his ankle out of Ian’s grasp, but Ian had hold of him with an iron fist. Mickey leaned over and tried to swat at Ian’s arm without losing his balance on the pool’s edge.
“Cut that shit out right now, Gallagher.”
Ian just grinned, squeezing Mickey’s ankle like he was about to tug him in. “Come on, Mick.”
Mickey’s eyes widened and, just as Ian had imagined he would— he started to freak the fuck out.  
“Ian stop that shit right now, I swear to god I will fucking murder you if you—”
They were at the 6-foot marker in the pool, right where it was deep enough for Mickey to stand on the very tips of his toes; and with this knowledge, Ian tugged at Mickey’s calf— causing him to falter, his arms circling like a cartoon character before he lost his balance and crashed into the water on his side.
Ian immediately placed his hands on Mickey’s hips, standing him upright before his head even fell under the water— but Mickey was still sputtering and splashing, like the drama queen that he was. Once Mickey regained his composure and realized he was easily standing on the bottom of the pool, his head bobbing just above the water, he swiftly splashed healthy burst of water into Ian’s face, the chlorine stinging his eyes and nose.
“Fuck you, Gallagher!”
Ian coughed at the water that had shot up his nose, but immediately splashed Mickey back—and then, because there wasn’t any way this whole pool situation was going to go anyways, he and Mickey were immediately engaged in a life-and-death splash battle, circling each other in the middle section of the pool.
Ian was laughing so hard he felt a stitch in his side— and Mickey was finally grinning again, water dripping down his cheeks and clinging to his hair. After a few minutes Ian threw his hands in the air in surrender, the water cresting at his shoulders.
“Truce!”
Mickey splashed one more surge of water at Ian’s chest for good measure, grinning like a kid in a candy store— then he took a step closer to Ian, eyebrows raised.
“Truce.”
Ian beamed down at him, pressing a quick peck to the top of his damp hair. “Sorry for throwing you in the pool.”
Mickey rolled his eyes. “Yeah, yeah.”
“But in my defense, it had to happen eventually.”
Mickey shoved him squarely in the chest, taking a step back. “You ruined the fucking truce.”
Ian gave a smug smirk. “Do you wanna learn how to swim, or not?”
Mickey flicked another burst of water at him, just enough to cast a slew of droplets onto Ian’s cheeks. “Alright. Get coaching, Michael Phelps.”
Ian hadn’t really considered how he was actually going to teach Mickey to swim— but it couldn’t be that hard, right? He tried to think back to when Lip had taught him how to tread water, on an equally as sweltering day in the backyard pool, when the yard was packed with lawn chairs and drunk neighbors and smelled of ashy barbeque smoke.
“Okay. So you’ve gotta move your arms in circles, kinda, to stay floating. And your legs too.”
Ian swam over to the deeper end of the pool, just an arm’s length away from where he and Mickey’s feet could touch, and tried to demonstrate how to tread water. “I feel like the easiest way for you to learn is just by doing it. C’mere.”
Mickey looked at him reluctantly, brows furrowed again in an outward display of his bundled nerves. “No fucking way.”
Ian sighed in exasperation. “C’mon, Mick. I’ve got you. I’m not gonna let you drown, you can hold on to me the whole time.”
Mickey raised an eyebrow— but then hesitantly took a step towards Ian, the water reaching up to the bottom of his chin.
“Alright, good. Now step where you can’t reach and try to tread water like I did.”
Mickey stepped forward again, then started to circle his arms under the water— and he was doing great, for a second, before he seemed to get too in his head about the mechanics and started to grit his teeth.
“Little help here, Gallagher?”
Ian grinned and stepped forward. “Here, you can hang onto me.” He stood where Mickey could reach and grab onto his shoulders if he needed to— but Mickey seemed to regain his confidence, and was starting to steadily, if a little bit clumsily, tread water.
He kept it up for a while, until Ian could see that he was overexerting himself— waving his arms under the water with a little too much gusto, brows furrowed and his teeth digging into his lower lip in concentration.
“Mick, you’ve got it. Chill out for a sec.”
Ian reached an arm out, a branch for Mickey to grab on to— because he had been joking before, yes, but he really didn’t want Mickey to fucking drown— and when Mickey grasped onto it, Ian pulled Mickey towards him in the water, kicking backwards so they were suspended in the deeper end of the pool with Mickey clinging to Ian’s neck.
Mickey looked nervous as Ian veered them towards deeper waters, his eyes darting from side to side where they were floating, his fingers digging into the back of Ian’s neck— and Ian smirked at how freaked out he seemed, standing only a few feet from where they could both confidently stand on the tiled pool bottom. But Mickey didn’t resist, or try to propel himself back into the shallower waters— he let himself cling on to Ian, fingers interlaced behind the tops of Ian’s shoulders, as he kept them afloat. Ian laughed softly in a warm, wet gust across Mickey’s cheek. “You okay?”
He could feel the heat radiating off of Mickey’s body, squeezing up close against him— and Ian couldn’t help it, the wave of fondness that came over him as he looked down at where Mickey was pressed against his chest; trusting Ian to keep them above the water, trusting Ian enough to go along with his stupid plan to teach him to swim in a public pool on a random morning just because Ian wanted to. Ian couldn’t help but feel warmth in his stomach at this simple moment, at the two of them bobbing in the pool— at teaching his husband to swim, something Mickey’d never gotten to do as a kid but something that they had the rest of their lives to do together.
“Maybe we could teach Franny to swim next summer. If we have our own place.”
As he said it, Ian hoped that Mickey could see the flood of hopes that he had for them in his eyes— that he wanted a place with a pool, and a balcony, maybe a backyard, and maybe even a fucking garden—he’d always wanted to grow tomatoes. More than anything he wanted to build something sturdy, that could stand up to whatever ground would inevitably shift beneath them in the years to come— he’d been thinking about that a lot these days, especially with all of the pandemic shit that had pulled a rug out from under this entire neighborhood.
Mickey’s gaze flickered up from where it had been boring a panicky hole in Ian’s sternum, meeting Ian’s eyes at the phrase “our own place”— and Ian instantly knew that he got it, that he could see the dreams that Ian was building for the two of them right in front of their eyes. That after months and years of obstacles and chaos and other voices infiltrating their heads, now it was just them— now it was just Ian and Mickey, clinging to each other and drifting through the calm, chlorinated waters.
And maybe it was their proximity, or the intensity Ian knew he was pouring out in his gaze, but instantly the air between them shifted as Mickey looked up— starting to hang heavy like the press of the humidity in the air. Their faces were centimeters apart— and Mickey’s lips parted slightly, his eyes now cast downward at Ian’s lips. Ian could smell the sweet, warm beer on Mickey’s breath, mingling with his own; he looked at Mickey, whose arms were still wrapped around his neck, water dripping down his face from the hair that was fanning over his forehead—and Ian just had to pull him in, had to place a hand in the damp hair at the nape of Mickey’s neck and tug him closer, backing them against the tiled wall of the pool.
Ian could taste the faintest bitterness of chlorine on Mickey’s lips, from the water droplets lingering there, as he took Mickey’s bottom lip between his teeth. Mickey’s hands were still limply wrapped around Ian’s neck, keeping himself afloat— even though Ian had backed them against a wall in the shallow end of the pool again, and Mickey could probably touch his toes to the ground if he wanted to.
Ian raised his hand from under the water, wanting Mickey closer— he pressed a hand to the side of Mickey’s neck, slick with water, and slid a thumb over Mickey’s collarbone, pressing down with the pad of his fingers.
And Mickey gave a little involuntary noise from the back of his throat, sending a jolt down Ian’s spine.
Ian’s hands circling Mickey’s neck was definitely not a foreign concept while they were kissing—  it was something they did a lot these days, especially as their hours in bed had taken a turn from the crazed, I-missed-your-body-so-fucking-much sex they were having in the beginning days of being in prison together and those early months after Mickey had gotten released— but both in prison and during this fucking quarantine, they’d gotten a bit more experimental, and a bit more reckless—especially before Ian had gotten his warehouse job and they were still on their structureless “honeymoon,” spending entire days lounging in bed.
It was those days of lazy, languid kisses, after years and years of already knowing each other, that Ian realized that he was maybe a little bit obsessed with Mickey’s neck. He’d always joked about liking Mickey’s legs, and that was true too (if he was being honest, there wasn’t a part of Mickey’s body that didn’t make his blood run hotter)— but the first time Mickey had grabbed Ian’s hand and put it up to his neck while they were tangled together, pressing down until Ian’s hand covered most of his throat, Ian knew that they’d opened Pandora’s fucking box.
By this point, Ian’s hand was pretty much always on Mickey’s neck at some point while they were fucking or even just making out— if he was being totally honest, Ian’s hand was on Mickey’s neck more often than not in lots of contexts these days, once they realized how much they both loved it. But there was something about this current moment, of Mickey wantonly desiring a point of contact there, right now, while they were very randomly and decidedly making out while floating in a public pool on a lazy weekday afternoon, that made Ian’s blood run hotter than usual, and rush quicker through his veins.
Ian let the pads of his fingers creep up the velvet skin of the side of Mickey’s neck, pressing a little deeper, a prelude— he could feel the vibration of Mickey’s heartbeat starting to flutter from where Mickey was still pressed against his chest, still clinging to his neck in the water.
They’d already extensively discussed limits and everything, Mickey would tap his wrist twice if shit got too intense— but even with that in mind, Ian pulled apart from Mickey for a second, trailing ghosts of kisses up the side of his neck and nipping at the underside of Mickey’s jaw. Mickey stretched his neck back and gave a little involuntary sputter of a moan, bubbling out of his mouth before he could stop it. He fisted a hand in Ian’s hair, at the nape of his neck, and leaned forward again to press their lips together with more fervor.
Ian pulled back again, his upper back resting against the concrete lip of the pool. Mickey looked disheveled and wrecked, half-dry chlorine-crusted hair sticking up from where Ian’s other hand had been cradling the back of his head, his blue eyes gleaming and catching the over-bright summer light. Mickey was still clinging his arms around Ian’s neck, holding on— they were in a fucking pool, and Mickey still couldn’t really fucking swim yet— and even though they were standing in a place where Mickey’s toes could certainly touch the ground, the whole thing felt weirdly insular and intimate, like they had to cling to each other.
Mickey raised his eyebrows at Ian, like he was daring him to keep going.  
Ian leaned forward, breathing heavily into Mickey’s mouth, but not pressing their lips together yet—and he reached a hand up again, against Mickey’s tender skin. Mickey’s legs were wrapped around Ian’s hips now, locked like a vice to keep himself upright in the water— and he pressed a little harder, gently pulsing at the sides of Mickey’s neck, in tandem with their lips pressing together over and over again as the warm waters surrounded them—the whole thing, the whole combination, made Ian feel indescribably floaty and weird and warm and blissed out; his skin stinging like ice and fire at every point of contact, electricity  zapping his nerve endings wherever his fingertips met Mickey’s skin. Mickey fisted his hand harder at the back of Ian’s hair, nodding slightly—and they were definitely not going to fuck here, in the filth of a Southside public pool, but this insular closeness, the knowing what they both wanted to right now, was equally as thrilling and fulfilling to Ian in the moment. He could almost feel his own heart beating, reverberating as it pressed against Mickey’s chest, vibrating straight through Mickey and back to him as they clung to each other in the water.
Mickey’s body was thrumming, letting out little gasps of breath between kisses and touches—and Ian pulled back and dragged his lips down the side of Mickey’s neck, inhaling the sunwarmed skin. Fuck. He was never, never going to get enough of this.
**
Later, they’d dragged their water-heavy limbs back through the still summer streets to the Gallagher house, their skin pink and their bodies exhausted from soaking up the sun— and they’d collapsed into bed, feeling the dried chlorine coating their skin.
Ian reached a hand up, rubbing a thumb over Mickey’s cheek, their bodies pliant and fatigued— and pressed a kiss to his forehead.
“Thanks for letting me teach you how to swim.”
Mickey had smirked. “Yup, that was definitely the only highlight of today. Swimming.”
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vyl3tpwny · 3 years
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parasocial relationships
something i never thought i'd deal with was having ppl form parasocial relationships with me, i thought maybe i wouldn't be cool enough or interesting enough for that, but whateveer.
it's such a complicated subject, because it takes the form of many different nuances. and this problem has gotten so much worse in the past year alone, given that more people are hearing about me and choosing to support me and interact with me and my work.
i'm heavily introverted, reclusive, and really know who my friends are. sometimes i'll meet new ppl and thats cool and sometimes i'll vibe with one or two and thats cool. but that's my own accord, it's a two way thing. a lot of the times i'll respond to someone's inquiry or comment because i want to try and acknowledge them and then suddenly they're talking to me like we're best friends. sometimes i'll try and be helpful or attentive to someone and then they'll start pushing boundaries, asking personal questions, and acting like i'm a bad person for giving them short responses or no reply at all. sometimes i will have worked with someone or interacted with someone who's supported me and because of that connection, they start to treat our casual acquaintanceship with each other as something that can be exploited — used as a way to talk to me all the time. sometimes i wont even interact with someone and i'll find them writing love letters to me or writing really stupidly, parasocially inappropriate things in my comments sections and replies. in all cases, i'm uncomfortable.
i have a lot of messages to answer every day, and it takes a lot of energy and willpower for someone like me to respond and be attentive. ive fallen into states of depression for just trying to bring myself to answer people sometimes. and through all of that, ppl find themselves spamming my inbox with things and pushing my boundaries, ignoring my statuses, and sometimes even mocking me for expressing in some way that i dont want to talk.
and its especially hard when there are people who connect a lot with my music and the things i convey through my work. because sometimes it feels like i've helped them a lot, they begin to think of it as a direct interaction and so on and so forth.
my brain can't handle it.
and i don't know what to do. sometimes it comes from someone who's supporting me and i dont want to be rude, or sometimes it comes from someone i may have interacted with more frequently in the past. but i honestly can't handle this at all. i want to be a nice person and i want to be reasonable and helpful.
another thing that rlly stresses me out is when ppl's only interaction with me is spamming my inbox with shitposts. like, i get it, i love funny things and i love being weird. but 1.) again i need a lott of energy to answer messages so when i finally muster myself and just see a gif sitting there i get so anxious and whatever 2.) i really would prefer not to be only "internet funny person" to someone.
sometimes it's hard esp if the other person doesn't really understand what they're doing. and i feel bad expressing "hey can you stop talking to me it stresses me out" because i dont know how to disengage from people without coming off as dismissive. so i just end up ignoring a lot of messages or coming off as short anyway.
im just dumping my thoughts out here. but this has been really affecting me a lot the past two years, and especially within the last 6 months. idk if i'm going to just have to concede being nice to everyone or what. its just really breaking my mental health.
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Settling In: Family Dinner
Inspired by @i-cant-sing
If there was any word to describe the past week, you would choose quiet.  A schedule was set for your time spent here and rarely it would deviate. Rei would wake you up to watch the sunrise with you and  you’d get ready for the day with her. The outfit she chooses always sits on the bed waiting for you while she does your hair. Mornings are spent in either the sun room or the library, with Rei always watching. Though, she leaves to cook. She always left you to cook. If nobody else was home, that means you’d be left alone. Fuyumi would come by for dinner some nights and take your afternoons. Enji wasn’t home during the day, but joined you all for dinner every night before you could retire to your new room. Even if the schedule is slightly smothering, it’s easy to keep up with.
There were no chores or responsibilities for you to do, unlike your old homes. It was relaxing—too relaxing. There was no stress, so you created some. Tonight, instead of Rei, Enji, and maybe Fuyumi, the other two Todoroki children were coming over. You don't know what to expect, so you stress over it.
Fuyumi warned you that they weren’t as accepting as she was, that they weren’t as involved with the family as she was. You don’t want to make a terrible first impression. You don’t want your new siblings to hate you.
Fuyumi comes home earlier than her siblings, coming immediately home from work. Meetings, she says, that’s why she couldn’t have come sooner. You remember that she’s a school teacher. It’s easy to imagine what those meetings are about. Though, she doesn’t give you time to daydream about her, as she’s asking you questions.
“So Y/N, you’ve been here a week? Have you been enjoying your time here?” Fuyumi does your hair, extremely careful not to hurt you. She’s taken this responsibility from Rei for today. Rei’s been busy at the store and in the kitchen all day, leaving you with Fuyumi. You don’t mind that; she’s nice.
“It’s quiet.” You don’t know if that’s a good or a bad thing, but it’s the truth.
Fuyumi takes it well, “That’s good. Mom picked out some good books for you, did she?”
The library in the Todoroki estate may be massive, but most of those books Rei says are too mature for you. She’s regulated you to books below your reading level. They’re for children younger than you. But she doesn’t like to watch television and the laptop they’ve provided has only been gathering dust.
“If I’m honest, they’re a little boring.”
Fuyumi chuckles, “She’s a little out of touch from reality at times. I’ll grab you some books you’ll probably like better. I used to do a lot of reading when I was your age.”
“What’d you read?”
“Romance, mostly.” Fuyumi admits, “occasionally fantasy. I wasn’t trying to read anything too dark and neither should you.”
Too dark. Too mature. You wonder where that threshold is for them. You suspect it’s a lot higher than most people’s standards. You don’t dwell on this thought too much longer. Finding faults in your caretaker’s lifestyle isn’t the best way to stay in their good graces. 
“How was school this past year?” She rests both hands on your shoulders. She’s done with your hair, but she isn't letting you go. You could probably move her to get out, but there’s no need. Fuyumi is nice and interested in what you have to say. Why would you leave her?
“Alright.” You reply. Even if it isn’t the truth, you wouldn’t speak it, “Don’t know where I’m heading now, though. We’re too far from my old school.”
“Father mentioned Somei and Mom talked about homeschooling.” Fuyumi replies, “We’ll have to see which one concedes first.”
You can’t imagine Rei fighting Enji on anything, especially something as trivial as where to take you to school. Though, you’d prefer if she concedes. Homeschooling seems like a nightmare.
“Oh, alright.” You respond. There’s nothing else to say on the matter and you hope Fuyumi lets up soon because you don’t know what to talk about anymore. Almost like a savior, a knock is placed on your door. It isn’t as strong as Enji’s—Fuyumi and Rei don’t knock at all—so, you assume it’s one of the brothers.
Fuyumi calls out to the person on the other side for you, “Hold on!” She finally lets up to open the door. You fiddle with the edge of your dress. The tulle is a bit itchy, but the smooth, holographic hearts covering the entire dress provide a nice change of texture. 
You look up to see a tall, white haired guy. He’s broad, built like Enji as opposed to Rei. Though, the rest of his features seem to come from her. He stands in the doorway looking at you, then back at Fuyumi—who’s back to holding you on your shoulders again, causing you to continue to sit still in the vanity’s stool.
He takes another look at you and your fingers fiddle with the dress more. He’s unnerving and hasn’t said a thing he walked in. You start to speak, but he looks up at Fuyumi and asks, “What kind of quirk bullshit has justified this?”
That’s not what you expected. 
You think to object, no quirk stuff has happened here—at least, that you know of. Though, Fuyumi immediately comes to your defense, “Natsuo! You can’t just ask something like that! Have some respect.” 
“Do you really expect there isn’t an ulterior motive behind this.” Natsuo replies, “You know how he is with quirks.”
“He’s gotten better!”
“Prove it.”
“Uhhh, Natsuo, sir.” You break up the siblings' argument, “No quirk stuff has happened, really.”
He grabs a hold of your arm, looking at it thoroughly before heading to the next one. You don’t know what he’s looking for. Bruises? Burns? Scars? You have none of them from your time here. 
You wouldn’t have anything quirk related anyways—you’re quirkless.
“Is this the lie he’s told you to say?” Natsuo asks, “You aren’t going to be able to lie. I see through his bullshit.”
“Natsuo!”
You want this conversation to end. Natsuo’s and Fuyumi’s hands are both icy cold and you don’t like the attention. Plus their argument is painful to listen too, especially considering it’s about you.
“Natsuo, sir…” You say, “there’s no quirk… anything. Really! I don’t have a... quirk.”
He lets go of your arm and it drops to your side. He stands up again. Fuyumi lets your shoulders go, moving to your side.
“Hey, chin up kiddo!” Fuyumi replies, smiling her everbright smile, “there’s nothing wrong with that!”
You didn’t even realize you were staring at the ground, but your feet soon come into view through watery eyes. Fuyumi’s fingers wipe away the tear that slips through.
“Hey, sorry kid.” Natsuo’s hands are in the pocket of his jeans and his shoulders are raised, “I have the habit of assuming the worst.”
“It’s fine.” You reply, laughing through the soft tears, “I should be over it by now, anyways.”
“Let’s head out of here.” Fuyumi takes your hand, leading you out of your room, “Father should be bringing Sho home soon. He’ll just love you, he won't be able not to."
Despite the ominous nature of Fuyumi’s statement, you let yourself willingly be led to the living room. Besides, where else would you go, anyways?
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Gratefully, the three of you leave your room. The room was getting tense between the sibling pair. You don’t want to be the reason they fight, do you? They always look so close in the photos on the wall—even if nobody looks happy in those photos.
Natsuo leads the way. He walks with his shoulders back and his head held high. He has confidence, something you’ve started to lack now that you’re around all these powerful quirk users. You feel the cool air radiating from in between him and Fuyumi. She walks right behind you. If you stopped, she’d crash right into her. 
But you don’t stop. You walk down the hallway and head towards the living room. There, two figures step in through the door. The first is the boy with half red hair, half white hair. The photos on the wall show him to be significantly younger and without the bright red scar covering one eye. He wears U.A.’s school uniform. One of the old children in your last home went there as well. The other person is Enji. He’s in his hero uniform still—flames and all.
Before anyone can say anything, Natsuo speaks up, “Father’s not using her. I already asked. She’s quirkless.”
He doesn’t say it in a negative way, but him bringing it up at all stings. You’re inadequate compared to them. They all scream of powerful quirks, but you don’t even have a quirk to begin with.
And now, you’re getting the suspicion that quirks are what this family truly cares about. Which leaves you in a terrible position—quirkless, surrounded by powerhouses.
“Alright.” Shoto deadpans, then slips his shoes and coat off. A cool wind blows in from outside, but it’s no different than standing between the cold Todoroki children.
Enji asks his sons, “Do you really think so low of me?”
“Yes.” Natsuo and Shoto reply instantly.
Luckily, Rei comes to your rescue, guiding you to a seat at the kitchen table. Whilst they talked, she set everyone’s plates wordlessly. She cooked this meal for everyone and you feel a slight pang of guilt, knowing that six mouths is a lot to cook for. You had smaller homes than that, which sometimes saw it too tiring to cook for their size. And Rei cooked a lot—much more than she’s cooked for the other meals you’ve had here. 
Your plate is filled. You can’t imagine that you’ll eat all of this, but you’ll eat as much as you can. You wouldn’t want to make Rei sad, now would you?
“Thank you Rei, for dinner.” You reply, before taking a bite. As you sigh in pleasure, Rei’s other children echo their thanks. The food is so good that you block out all sound in order to focus upon it.
“Y/N, are you there?” Fuyumi jokes from her seat beside you.
“Oh! Uh, yeah.” You exclaim, then ask, “Did you need something?”
“Father just asked how your day was.” Fuyumi replies.
You tell him, “It was good.” He sits at the head of the table, just like last time. You don’t sit next to him, Fuyumi does. You sit directly one seat to the left than the seat you’ve been sitting in. You don’t mind, especially because to the other side of you is the one brother you’ve barely heard speak: Shoto. 
He looks at you—he’s watching you. You can see him do it out of the corner of your eye. It’s unnerving to say the least. But you put your head down and continue eating, making sure to pay attention. Luckily, they don’t ask you too many questions. Most of the attention is on Shoto and Natsuo. They’ve returned home—the family all together, Rei calls it. You don’t ask about the other boy in the photos. He’s obviously not a part of the family anymore.
“May I be excused?” You ask as soon as you're finished eating, not keen to just sit there and listen to their conversations.
Enji doesn’t hold you back this time, giving you a silent nod. You take your plate to the kitchen and then head to your room, making sure not to bother them anymore. You don’t want to be seen as a bother anymore than you already are, do you?
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lg-secretsx · 3 years
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Hi! Love reading your blogs and reflections on d/s relationship, esp the discussion thread on total power exchange and or 24/7. My question is: 24/7 and/or tpe (when the women are the sub) essentially the same as fulfilling traditional gender norm ? Is 24/7 or tpe dynamic essentially more kink-driven? I understand that the d/s dynamic in your relationship sort of "leaks" into or even become part of the non-sexual parts of your relationship, so I'm curious on what you'd say.
Disclaimer: I am occasionally delve into d/s relationship with my boyfriend so I don't have any personal experience to input. I'm just really interested in this fuller and more whole (?) version of d/s dynamic :D
Oooh very interesting questions. And I'm really glad you enjoy reading my musings!
First I will say that after I posted my reflections questioning the difference between 24/7 and Total Power Exchange, I got some interesting replies from others in the community who have experience with 24/7, and I saw this post with explicit definitions. It seems that the consensus is that TPE is a little more extreme in that there is less negotiating between Dom and sub than there is in a dynamic that would just be considered 24/7 but not TPE, even though there's no real "off switch" in either dynamic.
Anyway, in either case, the dynamic often does reflect traditional gender roles, but I think the extent of that depends on the couple. In my relationship, which I think I would now consider 24/7, my Dom fulfills certain aspects of the traditional male gender role including:
taking out the trash
carrying heavy bags
speaking for the both of us at restaurants and other establishments
driving
managing financial investments/major purchases
But also, we challenge traditional gender roles in that I:
speak my mind all the fucking time, and my opinion is given equal weight in big decisions
can't cook for shit
have a full-time job and more degrees than he does
don't want kids
Some of this runs pretty contrary to other subs. In some (or maybe most) 24/7 dynamics, the Dom (often a man) is the primary decision-maker. In a healthy and ethical dynamic, the sub still shares their opinions and has a voice, but both parties prefer to go with what the Dom thinks is best most of the time. So, that whole idea does really reflect traditional gender norms.
However, I do think kinky sex is pretty central to 24/7 D/s dynamics as you were suggesting. A lot of people start with BDSM in sex and then say "Hey, this fits for us, let's see if it will work in other parts of our lives, too." And also, "This is really hot, and it would be cool if we could make mundane tasks like doing the dishes also really hot." Even if the dynamic didn't start off that way, I don't think it would be considered D/s if there wasn't at least some element of BDSM in their sex life, especially the idea of the sub serving the Dom.
But I think the biggest difference between D/s and traditional gender roles is that while in both cases the man takes on the role of a protector, a big part of D/s is that the Dom provides a lot of structure for the sub in the form of rules, routines, rewards, and punishments. This is how the sub feels secure, safe, and cared for. Couples who are not D/s but who are simply following traditional gender norms don't have this kind of structure, and no one's getting spanked for not following rules (unless it's something like Christian Domestic Discipline which is a whole other story I won't get into here).
A final thought: people who blindly follow traditional gender roles are often doing it because they were socialized to think that the man is more capable of doing things that are traditionally male roles and that the woman is incapable and therefore inferior. D/s is a choice and should be rooted in a shared belief that the Dom and sub are essentially equals.
To sum up...
Similarities:
man as protector
man as primary decision-maker, leader, or "head of household"
woman "serving" man
Differences (D/s only):
heavy on rules & routines
flexibility with gender roles
kinky sex
I'm sure there are all kinds of exceptions. I'm relatively new to 24/7, but this is what I've gathered.
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shinwhoohoo · 2 years
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Omg if that happens I’ll be right there crying with you!!! 😭🙏 Ngl, I lowkey watched yesterday’s VLIVE hoping for a Baro cameo (even tho i knew deep down that it’s just wishful thinking at this time).
Re: their contracts - if anything, I’m hoping that their 2018 experience has allowed them to be a little bit more open with their communication, and that the 3 are now more actively talking about their contract/future/what they wanna do when it’s up, so they can avoid anyone feeling blindsided. In D+ I kind of got the feeling that esp. at that point, this open-ness was/is something they want to value… kind of? Maybe? When Shinwoo was saying from then on it has to be their collective decision, the three of them no matter what..
I don’t really follow any other k-pop groups (or agencies) aside from B1A4, so I’d love to hear a bit more about why you think RBW hasn’t been doing right by their artists?
And speaking of agencies and what they do for their artists—I got some B1A4 albums recently and I’ve noticed in a lot of these shoots (and even in the ad campaigns they did), Gongchan photographs REALLY well!! Maybe he just didn’t/doesn’t want to (or it’s just not WM/RBW’s focus), but I think modeling might be a missed calling of his?!! (I literally went from not being to tell him and Jinyoung apart to thinking hey Channie should be a model lol)
Well, if it were to be anyone Baro would be the more likely 😆 so here's to hoping it will happen sometime this decade lmaoo
Definitely, I think they’re at a point where anything they’d do, it would be together. I guess it’s more if they’d stay under WM Ent. (RBW) or venture elsewhere. Which speaking of, I spoke a bit about my issues and concerns (and some overall messiness) regarding RBW entertainment here and here and here lol (there’s also some more info in the replies you can take a read of-- overall RBW just seems... questionable in their business antics). 
UGH yes Gongchan is so handsome omg... underrated visual king that we all secretly have as our number 1, our BANA fanclub president, our extra, sassy, Leo maknae lol. But yeah, I’ve said this about Gongchan from time to time over the years, he just never seemed like the type to be too interested in really doing too many solo projects, happy with just doing a guest appearance here or there. This radio guest hosting that he has going right now is actually one of the longer gigs he’s kept up (other than like the two web dramas he’s done in the past 11 years lol. Otherwise, he just did some very short stints with usually video-game related shows). So I think he just wasn’t too interested? But he would make a very good model, I agree. There’s a reason I have my ‘carved from marble’ tag 😉 😉
But omg at your last point haha I remember a lot of people used to think they looked alike when they were still rookies!! 😁 It’s one of those things where once you can tell the difference, you wonder why you thought that but tbh, there’s still the occasional picture I’ll see of Jinyoung where I’ll think he kinda looks like Gongchan. (Never the other way around though lol). There’s also been from time to time where I’ll see a pic of Jinyoung and Sandeul and think they look similar. All depends on the angle I guess!
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gwendeeagain · 3 years
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hello !! i was wondering what exactly you think of kayano's whole "newsflash asshole i've been the sister of your dead teacher this entire goddamn time!"
your preference towards her pre-reveal persona being a purposeful forgetful character is clear haha but on that same note, how much do you think it was true? also, how do you think the teachers (esp as trained professionals) think of her after it? peace and love i just don't have any friends who like assassination classroom to talk to </3
Hehe hi! Thanks for the ask! I love Kayano so the reply will be a bit of a long one... so I'll hide the reply under the "keep reading" tab.
I remember when I first watched the series, I was both confused and annoyed that Kayano was advertised/put as part of the main cast when she didn't quite do much, and I didn't think her presence so far justified her position in the main trio. I thought that she was one of the token "love interest" characters (that were otherwise useless and bland), which was such a shame. (I never disliked her because of any ships or such, I actually thought the main trio would be a cute ot3!)
And then.. the reveal! I fell in love with her. I thought her pre-reveal persona was kind of smart and showed that Akari was such a good actress. The choice to adopt an unassuming personality also helped her fly under the radar. It blindsided the audience (read: me, the clown) as well.
One of the main issue I had with it was how it seemed like a shock factor plot twist. Like, the premise was clearly set up and it's quite an intricate plot, but it's a shame to the plot that there weren't many "hints" to catch. (Maybe there were, and I'm just unobservant).
(I know there are some panels in the manga or something like that, but I think that the manga and the anime should be treated as distinct works of art, ie. they should both stand independently. I shouldn't need to cross-reference the media to be able to understand the other.)
How much do I think that her pre-persona personality was true? A lot, I think. Considering that it was a year-long acting stint without a break in between, it would be a lot easier to act close to, well, how you really are. The most natural lies are the one closest to truth! Besides, given that she spent so long in the role, I think by the end of the year, she would have ingrained some part of it in herself anyways. It's like, fake it to you make it.
The class' reactions was pretty underwhelming and disappointing. I think there was a popular string of posts about the Kayano Civil War that explains it a lot better than me. I think that the class realistically been a lot more hurt by her betrayal. (I can't find the post to the Kayano Civil War now, sorry.)
(I think that ^ whole thing was a consistent writing choice through the show. Assclass is a relatively short anime that crams a lot of content into a small amount of episodes, and most events that happen wrap up pretty concisely within the few episodes it spans and doesn't show much repercussions afterwards in later episodes. It seems like Assclass was just trying to throw many different problems at us, but doesn't really want to drag them out for too long, so they wrap each issue up with "and everyone was fine at the end :)" The class seems relatively unfazed for each problem they trip over, like Takaoka or almost being drowned or almost being poisoned and killed or the Reaper incident with Irina's betrayal or Nagisa's mother or- you get it. I'm not sure what I can say for this, because on one hand it's an anime for kids and it was quite short, but on another I don't believe that a show should focus on murder and such heavy topics without being able to handle it with the appropriate weight. I digress.)
How will the teachers react?
This is such a fun question! I think Koro-sensei would be both parts hurt and disappointed/angry at himself, because he's the world-class top assassin. There's probably a level of pride he carries on being able to read people and handle problems. Given that Kayano was so close to Aguri, I think he would be extremely disappointed in himself that he failed to figure it out and help Kayano enough.
On a similar vein, Irina would be second-guessing her own espionage abilities. I imagine she might show some interest in acting classes or maybe speak to Kayano a bit more to understand her. I don't imagine her taking it badly - moreover I think she'll be impressed.
Karasuma! He's funny. I think he would, firstly, second-guess all the background checks (I hope) had been done when they were looking into 3-E. He seemed just as surprised with the whole reveal, which means his superiors were keeping the whole Government Experiment thing from him, which... is incredibly unethical, to another point. If you think about it, if he was told from the get-go, they might be able to prepare for some eventualities like looking out for Yanagisawa and potential revenge plots, looking for a good setting to tell the kids about the whole thing instead of the whole surprise sprung on them, et cetera. He'd probably be pissed and cynical, and he wants to get Kayano some therapy. They all need therapy.
Oopsie, this is a bit too long of a reply, I think. Thanks Anon! I had fun thinking about my response. Hehe, feel free to reply or toss more questions at me. My dms are always open too!
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noona96n · 3 years
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okay so relating to how u answered ur last ask.. i’ve noticed that sam and yu.... especially sam seems to have really embodied shi de. like, he’s really digested shi de as a character and it shows whenever he answers questions on lives. he refers to himself as shi de at some points (so does yu but i’ve noticed it more from sam) which is interesting because it could be the first time i’ve seen it to this extent. gotta give props to sam’s method acting (at least it seems to be the approach he takes what with really committing to being drunk and all) because its really not easy to immerse yourself so fully into a character. kind of unrelated but if you want to see a darker take on method acting i recommend watching the korean movie Method. also unrelated but something i think about a lot bc this is really cute.... in some live sam and yu were doing sam was talking about how lucky he was to have this support and opportunity and have all these nice people working with him and he was deadass getting misty eyed and emotional it was kinda adorable meanwhile yu looked so endeared. honestly what a mood. 😂 he’s very adorable and at first i was just really surprised at how completely different to shi de he was (duh its acting but still sam is like a big dog who doesn’t know he’s not a puppy anymore lmao)
i assume it’s this ask?
SAM
Sam referring to himself as Gao Shi De isn't surprising tbh... ive seen a couple of actors do that but Sam made it his personal mission to make sure that we, the audience, can truly understand what it's like to be in an unrequited love for 10+ yrs (he said this in a couple of interviews, i can't find the links, sorry). he put a LOT of thoughts into his character... if u watch their hotpot IG live, there's a portion where he explained Gao Shi De's mindset in depth.
en fait, SamYu's valentine's day IG live was what REALLY spurred me on to write my SamYu fic... (i mean Yu kneeling on a pillow by Sam's feet put naughty thoughts in my head but i didn't really wanna write anything until Sam randomly said 'I love you' to Yu, UNPROMPTED)
as u've said, Sam is extremely invested in Gao Shi De. this is literally the first time he's this invested in a character (at least the first time i see him this invested)... and, like, Sam has always been a bit of a quiet person most of the time (esp when he’s in a ‘crowd’ he’s usually only a crackhead around ppl he’s ‘close with’) but, before S2EP2 aired, i got the sense that he was very withdrawn... as if he was worried about the reception of S2EP2 (my man lost 10kg out of stress okay asfghjkldi) i'd be worried too... it's such a controversial scène but it's also pivotal to his character & speak of who Gao Shi De is. and i gotta say... that scene would be the scene of Sam’s career. Yu’s career too... like, wow,,, wtf, why did they have to go so hard???
that IG live literally had me asking 'where does Sam end and Shi De begin?' and it's a concept i toy around in my fic.
i think, Sam’s immersion in his role as Gao Shi De is due to pressure & encouragement from the director... like, director Ray Jiang put quite a lot of pressure on Sam when it came to portraying Gao Shi De & even expect him to take the lead amongst the younger actors as he’s the most experience from the lot... but i believe that it’s that kind of environment that provided Sam with the ‘right’ mindset & encouragement to play Gao Shi De so well.
Sam's passion for Gao Shi De is énorme... unimaginable. and, in WBL's first clubhouse broadcast, when asked if he's out of character yet, Sam instead replied that 'Gao Shi De's character is life changing and he will always remember this character'.  (fun fact: Luo Luo said he's not out of character yet while Chihtian said it’s hard to answer) (twt translation thread) (random observation but i feel like Ray Chang’s literally the only person in the entire cast who’s already gotten out of his character lol )
(also another fun fact, if i remember correctly, Sam has aspiration to become a director... but, like, don’t quote me on that, idk if that’s correct asfghjkldi)
YU
as for Yu, this is his first drama and he's the fckn lead... the role was basically 'written' for him... like, in an IG live/FB live, the executive producer, Qiao-jie, said that they discovered Yu's song 'aqua blue lover' as they were writing the swimming pool scene and thought that it fit with the series. they immediately wanted him to audition... the team only heard his song saw saw pictures from his album jacket... not even his MV! they haven't even seen his acting and didn't even know if he spoke Chinese!! and bcs of Yu, Shu Yi became half-japanese! 
he felt a lot of pressure to play Shu Yi well and even cried at their wrap-up party (Ray & Chihtian said this during first IG live) 
can u imagine what kind of pressure Yu has to carry??? bcs i sure fckn can’t
fun fact... 'aqua blue lover' was written with 'call me by ur name' movie in mind! (source: Yu's manager IG or result entertainment IG, i don't remember which) (also, random info but Yu's manager is called Kitty)
(translation of the filming of the drunk scene)  (a bit of bg info on Yu’s life)  (SamYu timeline here)  
twt thread of WBL eng sub  (1)   (2)   (3)    i went on twt once and fckn bookmark every wbl stuff i can find haha
follow fujosu  &   koilicous  for translated wbl stuff + follow  soku_hitsuki  for god’s tier SamYu / Shu Yi/Shi De fanarts
also, i just wanna say that i love Lin Zihong so, so much; my whole heart aches for him, that is all
i've seen method lol but still... thks for the rec! i’ll rec back some BLs (since u seem like the type to enjoy more than just boys kissing & falling in love) His 2019 (prequel) + His 2020 , restart wa tadaima no ato de
this become so random somehow, im so sorry T-T
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thoughts-on-bangtan · 3 years
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Just read your post and agree with everything, esp about bad ship theories. One thing you said, kinda stuck out. The voting argument where Jimin went without JK, so therefore they seem to live in different areas. Then does this mean you think Vmin live in different areas? I mean, if they have been together for years, why would they not be living together? IDK, I just always kinda felt Vmin low key live together this whole time, but now your answer has me doubting that. You don't think Vmin do?
Admin 2: Hello anon,
In my reply I will try to convey to you my personal point of view in regard to Vmin and their relationship and in this case, how I see the question of them of living together.
The fact that four BTS members voted at the polling stations of their district shows that not all of them are registered in Hannam in their shared dorm.
We know, and it is no secret, that Taehyung bought an apartment in autumn 2019 in which, as you can see, he also seems to be registered. We know that Hobi and Jungkook bought their apartments at the end of 2018 in the same building and supposedly even on the same floor. Taehyung has posted photos from what looks like his apartment more than once and it is no secret that he owns and stays in this apartment. During some program on TV, one of his Wooga squad friends talked to Taehyung on FaceTime, who seemed to be at home in his apartment and wondered what he should eat.
Of course, there is more information from illegal sources, but we will not touch any of that.
It is known about Jimin and his living situation that his apartments (building) are under renovation.
Ok that's official facts of things we know. However, we do not know what the actual living situation of the individual members looks like.
Actually, all options are theoretically possible, but based on some logical considerations, some arrangements can be deduced. The fact that Taehyung is not registered in the dorm does not mean that he does not live there, or at least that he does not stay for a long time.
Jimin likely being officially registered as living at the dorm does not deny that he could also spend some time at Taehyung’s apartment. Do you understand what I'm going for? However, I exclude that officially Vmin or any couple could officially be live together. We have heard more than once about the obsessiveness of fans, about the stalking of the saessangs, about them occupying whatever buildings BTS are staying at, about the way they even go after the members families to get their hands on any kind of information’s.
Therefore, the best solution for Vmin is that they have access to Taehyung’s apartment. I think that in the dorm, and anywhere else (except for their bedrooms within the dorm), it would be impossible to lead any kind of relationship in peace.
There are all sorts of people at the dorm, their staff (like their managers) have success to the dorm and could just walk in at any time. The mere fact that Vmin (we assume they are a romantic couple) is in a fragile relationship and therefore any kind of leak, so to speak, would lead to a catastrophe. Antis and alike are just waiting for such "interesting" details from the private lives of the BTS members.
I believe that it is not possible to have any romantic relationship in a classic way within the group, and it is completely impossible for two members suspected of a romance to live together. (The same applies to J/k/ok etc.)
However, I am personally convinced that Vmin spends a lot of time together, even if only because they study together for their now master’s degree. I suspect they stay a lot together because Jimin wears Taehyung's clothes (especially his oversized boots) because even after work he was supposed to go to Tae (or Tae to Jimin) during the Billboard H100 # 1 night. We have screenshots of conversations with fans during games where Tae said he had to stop because Jimin had just made ramen, some other time he’d mentioned he was planning on doing something with Jimin the next day etc. Jimin said during Vlive in April 2020 that him and Tae like to go driving at night and many other things.
"Someday, when these cheers die down, stay hey
Stay with me by my side"
And that is also my opinion: A normal relationship will only be possible for Vmin when they are no longer the most famous musicians in the world living in a very conservative Korea, especially since they (and other members as well) still have to go to their military service in the VERY conservative Korean Army. Actual suspicions of a queer relationship within the group could and likely would only endanger the members during their service, just like I previously mentioned in my reply to an ask about Jin’s reaction to Taehyung’s “Jiminah I like you the most”.
I would also like to add some observations and thoughts to members speaking about their situation in life.
I have a strong impression that it doesn't matter so much to the fans whether Namjoon or Yoongi or even Jin live at the dorm or anywhere else.
What obsessive fans care about is where and with whom the maknaes live.
Therefore, I often get the impression that some dialogues, some scenes in RUN or interviews or other shows are shown in such a way that there is some confusion about who with who and confusion about where the maknaes live and whether they live together or not. I may be delulu, but I often get such an impression, especially when it comes to Jimin, that he deliberately says certain things in a way that can be interpreted in multiples ways, or like they mean something, even though likely it doesn’t mean anything at all.
We know Jimin is very private and doesn’t readily share private information’s, so it just seems like he “feeds” obsessive shippers, of whom I’m sure he’s well aware they are listening and just waiting for it, something that really is empty just so they have something to do, like JK saying he wants to make pizza at the end of some RUN episode to which Jimin asked “at home?” which was asked (or at least translated by weverse/vlive) in such a manner that shippers spent the next two weeks discussing what home he meant and if that means they do live together. Because of that, really, Jungkook can keep his privacy, as can vmin, since shippers will hold on to those empty phrases (fanservice) while the members can do whatever they want away from the cameras. Does that make sense? So, in the end, even if it seems like Jimin shared some insight into their living arrangements, we really still know nothing at all about where the maknaes live and with whom. It’s very smart PR and fits with the media training Idols in general seem to receive.
Edit: I read your comments and I want to clarify what I meant with the above part about Jimin, since I really didn’t mean to shift the blame for bad shipper behavior on him in any kind of way: 
I’m sure we’ve all seen bad shippers make the argument that the members that are part of their ship supposedly purposefully say certain things to send them “secret/hidden messages” or “hints” that “only they will understand” which in turn are meant to prove their ships. That’s what I meant by “seems to “feed””, not that he’s purposefully “lying” in their favor or feeding into their weird fantasies, but rather that the vague things he sometimes says, or his occasionally cheeky/teasing comments made in good fun with the other members, are taken by shippers and interpreted in ways to fit their narratives, even if what Jimin says has nothing to do with ships at all, he’s obviously just joking/teasing, or it’s just a vague “empty”/deflective statement to keep private info private. 
In all those cases the blame is on shippers and their bad behavioral habits of twisting the members words instead of listening properly and realizing that Jimin is joking or that what he said isn’t a hint or anything at all.
After all, Jimin said so much, supposedly, and yet we know nothing, not even about him and Taehyung studying together, which was quite literally never mentioned by them. Not even once in passing.
Of course, everything I've written is just my personal opinion and point of view. I could of course be totally wrong.
From anon: I agree that "Feeding the Schipers" isn't the happiest phrase, but I get what is going on. I think what J/m says and how he says it is like fodder for ships. I don't think he's doing it on purpose, however. Definitely not. J/m has this style of teasing, joking and shippers buying it as "secret confessions or notices" but a cool comment in general.
Admin 1: I’d like to quote myself from my asks post yesterday as reply to this ask, since it fits here as well:
Besides, at the end of the day, their living arrangements are not something we are privy to and that we shouldn’t try to figure out either. The members say they still live at the dorm, and if that’s the version they want us to believe, that’s the one I’ll stick to, unless they tell me otherwise.
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