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stopthatmyhandsaredirty · 9 months

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Star Ware Rebels Bechdel Test Rewatch- 2x22 ‘Twilight of the Apprentice, Part II’

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Ezra, Kanan, and Ahsoka arrive at Malachor, a seemingly dead world and home to an ancient Sith Temple, but they are not alone. Paths cross, destinies change, and fates are fulfilled

Female Characters: 4

Ahsoka Tano, Seventh Sister, Hera Syndulla, Sabine Wren

Male Characters: 8

Ezra Bridger, Kanan Jarrus, Maul, Darth Vader, Fifth Brother, Eighth Brother, Zeb Orrelios, Rex

Droid Characters: 2

Chopper, AP-5

Does it pass?

No, the second part of the Season 2 finale is also a fail. Ahsoka and the Seventh Sister are featured the most prominently but they once again don’t speak.

I think I speak for a lot of fans when I say this is one of my favorites in all of Star Wars. The Ahsoka vs Vader duel holds so much weight and is incredibly emotional. Kanan being blinded by Maul is tragic but ultimately a great storytelling decision for Kanan and Ezra’s development. Ezra saying ‘Kanan....your eyes.’ always gets me.

Honestly, I was very emotional rewatching this episode. My boyfriend isn’t much of a Star Wars fan and was watching with me and I had a hard time keeping my shit together. The final moments are so cinematic, I get chills. The score, seeing Maul escape Malachor, the rest of Phoenix Squadron’s reaction to Kanan and Ezra returning, Vader limping away from the temple, Morai flying into the smoke, the brief hint that Ahsoka is still alive..... it works so well. Rebels crushes it in the Season Finale department.

I will note that Hera and Sabine appear in this episode but have no lines. I’m counting this as an appearance for them (as well as Zeb and Rex) because they are so busy *emoting* we don’t even need to hear them speak.

That’s a wrap on Season 2!

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droidmom · 2 years

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7S vs Lyn

why would they fight when they're in love!!!!! (because they're bad at emotions and it's hot <3)

anyway it's hard to say because for motur we didn't get a ton of lyn as her normal self fighting - we got her power-drained and as god-lyn, but she seemed intensely capable at both magic and strategy. same in 200x and the comics i've read. she's good with her staff, but it's probably not her strongest point compared to magic.

seventh sister is force sensitive and really strong with it (going off that theory about how when raising the jedi temple, she had to work against light side energy). but she really seems to prefer using her lightsaber.

using her droids to fight still gives her some long-range, semi-stealth abilities if she isn't using the force. (but if used for something like spying pre-battle, lyn has been shown to have access to magical tools that let her do the same.)

it would probably come down mostly to who was planning an attack and if the other party was expecting it. if they'd fought before, i think they would have studied one another's styles.

there's also the fact that lyn is physically very strong whereas seventh sister seems to be more agile-focused. she can definitely take a hit - we saw her stay conscious when ahsoka did something to her that took out fifth brother. and her droids would give her an upper hand here since they could still do some damage while she's getting back on her feet.

i'm not really touching on cgi lyn here, but i'm pretty sure she's used some spells to either take out droids or take control of them. so i highkey want to see that happen, both her and seventh sister fighting for influence over the parrot droids through magic and through tech.

speaking of cgi lyn though, that reminds me i think 200x lyn needs to use words to make more complex spells happen. seventh sister is pretty fast so that could be a drawback even at long range. have a droid taze her before she can finish speaking and it's all over lmao.

so idk! it kind of balances out. two strong mean women with powers and tricks up their sleeve, really seems to depend on the circumstances. they're both extremely confident, maybe even too confident at times, in their abilities and that could add an interesting angle.

but i think the real breaking point is that lyn would hear seventh sister's voice and realize how much it sounds like teela's (same VA babeyyy) and just be instilled with so much rage she obliterates her in the middle of one of seventh sister's little seduction monologues 💀

ultimately i wanna see them work together though!!! and kiss maybe!!!!!

"give me two characters" ask meme

#rebels tag #motu tag #me writing an essay and not actually answering the question <3

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obi-wkenobi · 3 years

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STAR WARS: REBELS APPRECIATION WEEK 2021

Day 3: favourite duel, Ahsoka Tano vs The Fifth Brother & The Seventh Sister

You are beaten.

#ahsoka tano #seventh sister #fifth brother #rebelsremembered2021 #star wars rebels #swedit #starwarsedit #rebelsedit #star wars #i do realise that the fifth brother is barely in this haha #my gifs #tml*

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bedlamsbard · 3 years

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fascinated by the distinction drawn between "audience member" and "fic writer" bc I think I know what you mean in regards to kind of re-writing it in your own head not as the secondary way of interacting with it but as the first. But I would not have thought of putting it that way!

A lot of it has to do with the specific fic genre I write in, which is long plotty AUs that I’ll probably be working on for years -- to some extent I can set aside everything in canon that occurs in in-universe chronology after the span of my story; Backbone and Crown doesn’t have to take into account the events of the OT and ST because they haven’t occurred yet. On the other hand, I can’t totally set aside major set piece events that involve causes and players outside of whatever characters and timeline I’m working with, because depending what I’m working with things are still going to happen whether or not my characters are involved.

And I make compromises all the time about whether things are going to make it into the story -- there’s a whole discarded Backbone subplot about Zare Leonis that I considered really carefully before not including, even with the knowledge that leaving him and his interaction with Ezra out of the story meant that his arc in the Servants of the Empire novels will be completely changed. Backbone covers about half the span of S1, maybe less; I was always running out the timeline of S1 to figure out what events would be happening that would or would or not be affected by the Ghosts’ changed circumstances and if that merited being included in the story. Rebels S1 is very small-scale; going further into the timeline of the show means that opens up further and further and a lot of other factors are in play. The earliest version of Backbone was also quite different; the Free Ryloth fleet didn’t exist, Cham and Alecto were members of the Rebel Alliance, a number of other Rebel Alliance characters were there; I reworked it after Siege came out and it was revealed that the Rebel Alliance wasn’t yet a thing.

With Gambit, otoh, there were a lot of galactic-scale repercussions; I was always running the timeline back and forth and figuring out what the originating events were and how those would play out in the altered timeline of this single-point divergence AU. But the crucial difference is that for Gambit (and Wake), I was working is that I was working with a closed canon -- I didn’t have to worry about something down the line adding something to the in-universe chronology, and a lot of it was heavily altered by the divergence point anyway. (Actually, that canon reopened partway through Wake when The Lost Missions dropped in a way that was relevant; the chip scenes were somewhat shoehorned in because I couldn’t leave that out.) Crown is working in a tighter timeline but one that comes a lot closer to the set piece events of the saga; I have “where is this in relation to Rogue One?” running through my head when I’m working through any of the Rebel Alliance scenes. There are a number of small-scale changes that aren’t immediately clear (because the story’s not finished) that have come about because of the story’s divergence point that would have a much greater influence on galactic events than they did in canon.

When it comes to out-of-universe chronology, the added canon that comes out after I’ve already started working on a story, it can be a lot harder to deal with. 95% of the time, if the additional canon deals with the character/setting of my WIP, I’m going to ignore the bulk of it but occasionally integrate details here and there as relevant (such as the name of the Tann Province in Backbone -- you may note it doesn’t show up until quite late in the story, after the S3 ep aired). I didn’t change the names of the Inquisitors -- in fact, I made the decision early on that however I named the Inquisitors it would be different from what canon did, as that was prior to them being called “Seventh Sister”, “Fifth Brother,” etc. 5% of the time it’s something that I cannot ignore, like the clones and the chips -- that’s pretty rare, tbh, but it happens. (I’ve scrapped a story because of additional canon; I had a chunk of Kanan/Hera time travel written where they both got thrown back to the Clone Wars, but the Kanan - The Last Padawan comic coming out threw me too badly with their clones as opposed to my OCs.) To some extent, I try to only work with the canon that was available when I started writing that story; that’s not entirely sustainable with canon coming out so rapidly, and sometimes it can throw out a reader.

The worst part, as a fic writer, about dealing with additional canon isn’t trying to integrate it into an ongoing story: it’s that it may change how I feel about Star Wars, or if it’s done poorly, I may end up in the kind of mental place where I get very “why am I doing this when the canon doesn’t even care.” There’s a scene in the Darth Vader comics where the Inquisitors are doing shots after killing a Jedi and stealing his baby. When that particular issue came out, I was working on the big Inquisitors vs. Kanan & Ahsoka fight scene in Backbone, and I was so badly thrown by the disconnect that I had to step away for a few days. I hated the Rebels finale so much that I couldn’t work on Backbone for a while even though it’a completely different universe. A lot of what canon did with Ahsoka post-S2, and the way she gets idolized by both fandom and the PTB, has messed with my perception of her so much that with Crown Ahsoka and the backend of Backbone Ahsoka I didn’t trust myself writing her and had to have multiple beta readers just for her characterization, something I have never worried about before. (This is one reason I did that deep dive the other week to figure out what the hell was going on in the writers room about her, and honestly? I feel better about it now that I’ve rationalized what was going on in a way that makes sense to me.) I had to stop reading the Doctor Aphra comics because Hera was so out of character there that I was getting really, really upset (and also the animal harm), and then I just stopped reading all the SW comics because they were making me mad and I wasn’t enjoying myself. Sometimes you get big universe consequences stuff that doesn’t deal with your main characters (looking at you, TROS) and it’s frustrating if you don’t like it! Then I have to sit down and try to decide “hey, am I going to use any of this Palpatine stuff?” -- this was actually a problem for Crown, because the Palpatine scenes weren’t written yet when TROS came out, and I was so badly thrown by TROS that I didn’t know how to deal with that in Crown even though it’s mostly not relevant. Would I be happiest if I was working in a closed canon, or if at least I knew (or thought) my main characters weren’t going to get any more canon stories about them? GODS, YES, THIS IS WHY I STARTED WRITING PREQUEL FIC BACK IN THE LATE 2000S. (Ironically, I started writing PT fic before TCW came out, then flipped fandoms and came back in 2012 -- but all my 2012 PT fic only used the closed canon of the EU Clone Wars/Republic comics, not TCW.)

Mostly as an audience member I don’t want to see my writing characters on the screen anymore -- there’s a certain amount of hypervigilance that comes with having your writing characters or settings active in canon, even if you don’t intend to integrate any of that. I watch and read Star Wars very differently than I watch and read anything else; I mostly don’t find it relaxing because I’m always aware of the fact that the stuff I care about could pop up at any moment, or because I’m concentrating so hard on characterization/nuance/worldbuilding that my brain is going 150 mph, or because I have very specific deal-breakers. (I do find reading in the EU relaxing because bro, that is CLOSED CANON.) I would like to relax! If canon finally contorts itself to the point I can relax again that will be a relief, tbh, even as frustrating as it would also be.

...this is probably a much longer response than you expected.

#also I could probably clean this up but I need to go!#I got distracted writing it!#eri-223 #bedlam answers

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mal-zoya · 5 years

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34, 37 & 48!

34. What is your favorite battle?

i mean, of course, it’s the obi-wan/anakin lightsaber duel on mustafar. that sequence is ah-mazing. and i’m one of those people that if the action sequence drags too long, i’m getting bored, but here i just couldn’t get enough.

tho, special shout out to some amazing duels in rebels, kanan/ezra vs the grand inquisitor, ahsoka vs the seventh sister, those are fantastic

37. Pick a saber color.

easy - purple. my bi ass, will always go for that, altho i do like ahsoka’s white/yellow sabers as well.

48. What are your top five ships?

damerey. gingerpilot. obianidala. - i mean, that’s my main 3. the rest depends on how i sleep that night and how much the fandom pisses me off. like i want to say ‘jedistormpilot’ but the damerey haters inside that fandom can suck my dick. i want to say ‘darkpilot’ cause that’s my og, but tlj!kylo can also suck my dick too, and i want to say ‘hanqira’, ‘hanluke’ and ‘rebelcaptain’ but i’m not hardocore shipper of those. the real answer would be all the poe ships. i love love love poe/jess and poe/kaydel and damereyux but talk about rare pairs.

star wars asks

#replies #i bet you already knew my shipping preferences lmao #lehdenlaulu

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bo-katan · 5 years

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1, 2, 5, 9, 15 & 16 for the sw asks!

1. Second Favorite Duel.

Jess you seriously need to catch up on the sw animated stuff the team up I didnt know I needed but I thank filoni for: kanan x maul x ezra x ahsoka vs. the Fifth and Eighth Brother and the Seventh Sister

2. Second Favorite Movie.

The Force Awakens

5. Favorite Non-canon pairing/ship.

answered here

9. Which era would you rather live in?

The prequels involve a galaxy-wide war, the originals involve living under the Empire, so I'd say the sequels. At least during the sequel era i'd have a higher chance of living in ignorant bliss bc the first order are not an actual threat most believe exists, including the New Republic. Its why the rebellion is so small in the sequels.

15. The character you feel more neutral on/dont care about more than most of the fandom.

Boba Fett or Mace Windu or Yoda

16. If you had to choose one moment/event in the star wars universe to change, what would you choose and why?

This is going to be a major thing I feel unless we get it in episode 9, but Finn not starting a trooper rebellion near the end of TLJ. I think that deleted scene alternate Phasma x Finn showdown would have been the perfect segue into a trooper rebellion.

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#thanks for the ask jess 💕#revengeofthcsith #inbox #sw ask meme #@jessica #mutuals

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aceofstars16 · 7 years

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For the SW ask 1,2,5,15,23

1. Favorite movie(s)

Answered here

2. Favorite Clone Wars episode(s)

Answered here

5. Favorite lightsaber duel(s)

Oh man there are so many good ones it’s hard to even remember them all to pick them??? I always love the final duel between Kanan and the Grand Inquisitor, and Ahsoka totally pwning the Seventh Sister and Fifth Brother. Also, Ahsoka fighting Vader...feelsss, and Kanan teaching Sabine, like, Kanan is so good???? And the feels. For the movies, Maul vs. Obi and Qui Gon is a classic, and I also love Rey and Finn fighting Kylo Ren.

15. Favorite line(s)

Okay so...I love so many lines...to the point where I forget like...all of them but when I watch it again I laugh and go, “Oh gosh I love that line!” Mainly with Rebels...and it’s hard because there are the funny ones and then the deep ones and I love them all...I can’t just pick a few! (and I forget them so much, the only one I always remember is the “Do or do not, there is no try.” “What does that even mean?” “Uh, I don’t know, that one always confused me too, but master Yoda sure said it a lot...” And then of course the “I don’t want the best, I want you.” And “I have you, I have my father, and I’m surrounded by my family every day.” And like all of the space fam quotes...and that’s not even talking about the movies...so many good quotes!)

23. Jedi, Sith, or Grey Jedi

Hmm, probably Grey Jedi, because the Jedi’s philosophy about relationships is very flawed...and it causes so many problems. I still like the Jedi, but I like the middle ground cause I feel like there is more understanding there and what not?

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