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bonefall · 7 months
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Sincerely, what was behind the decision in DOTC: The First Battle to have Turtle Tail fight her domestic abuser, at the grave of the friend who was murdered by a maniac after refusing to return to this same abuser, while saying "we must stay out of this fight, she must stand up for herself,"
And then show her LOSING BADLY, BEING BEATEN VIOLENTLY BY TOM,
Just to have fucking GRAY WING jump in and save her ass from the wifebeater??? The guy who's supposed to have asthma and be held back by that??
Like, look at it!
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Was all of this just for a chance to show how coooool Gray Wing is?? Have a woman get battered on screen just so the writer's pet can save her??? I am absolutely baffled by the choices that were made in this arc
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ahdndnaneb · 5 months
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“‘Kill me,’ he rasped, ‘Kill me and live with the memory. Then tell the stars that you won.’”
— Kate Cary, Warriors: Dawn of the Clans: The First Battle
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lemnnshark · 7 months
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"'No!' Falling Feather's horrified yowl caught his ear. He glanced sideways to see Jackdaw's Cry bite hard into his sister's spine. She jerked, flinging out her paws, then slumped onto her belly. Thunder recognized the prey-look of death. He stared at Jackdaw's Cry. The tom's black pelt was slick with blood. He staggered, eyes glazing, then collapsed lifeless onto his sister's body."
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moth-flights · 1 year
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Rainswept Flower’s gaze flitted around the lush slopes of the hollow. “How could any cat starve here? There’s so much. Wanting more is just greedy!”
“How dare you!” With a snarl, Clear Sky leaped for her, grabbing her throat between his jaws. Her paws flailed desperately, lashing out at thin air as he shook her like prey. Then she hung still.
Clear Sky dropped her, gazing coldly at her lifeless body. “You never understood. I’m not greedy. I’m just strong.”
I may not usually draw warrior cats but I'll never stop drawing DoTC
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Thingol wasn't that bad:
1. Banning a language because the speakers murdered a bunch of your brother's - originally your own - people wasn't an overreaction??? He had to do SOMETHING - a lot of this people were probably realated to the Teleri + the Noldor lied to him + Melian called the sons of Feanor 'Fell and fey' even before the second kinslaying - letting them into Doriath wasn't a great idea when they'd already proven themselves capable of outright killing Teleri (ethnically similar to the Sindar) and abandoning their own fellow Noldor to a journey that killed half of them
2. The Sindar really weren't in any kind of shape to be fighting any wars??? The First Battle killed A LOT of them - remember, Thingol's people only won one front. Cirdan was still being besieged. Melain put up the girdle because they RETREATED to Menegroth. Clearly they weren't in any place to be waging war.
3. The Eldar didn't come to Beleriand to help them?? Thingol had to live with the fact that his people were dying because they made the choice to wait for him: are those really the kind of people whose lives you'd be willing to risk for some jewels and an overblown desire for revenge for the death of ONE man. His brother Elmo was dead; his children nephews and grandnephews too. The Sindar were used to death.
The Noldor weren't there to help the Sindar or Avari. Why should Thingol risk his people for their sake?
4. He wasn't indiscriminately against all Noldor - he was willing to forgive the Nolofinwians for their (unwitting) part in the kinslayings and only asked Finrod and Galadriel to leave TEMPORARYLY. He was okay with Galadriel learning from his wife and even marrying his grandnephew.
5. The Noldor came to Beleriand partly looking for lands to rule. Could you really blame Thingol for not letting them into his kingdom? For not trusting that KINSLAYERS wouldn't unnecessarily sacrifice his people or make them bear the brunt of the fighting to make them easier pickings later?
Can you really blame him for refusing to join the Union of a guy whose brothers kidnapped and tried killing his daughter? Who killed the Teleri for BOATS? Who were willing to let their own people died out of pride and jealousy?
And given how widely known doom of Mandos was, Thingol would have know that any attempt by the Noldor to fight Melkor would end in Doom regardless of their intentions. As such, staying as far away from them as possible made sense.
6. The Luthien thing was bad. Nothing can make up for that.
But I think the fact that he did it out of love and to stop his daughter from making a what he saw as a huge mistake doesn't make him a bad man? He knew men weren't immortal and didn't want his only child to fade away when Beren died.
And the fact that he made Dior his heir, took in human refugees and fostered Turin showed that he learnt from his mistakes and was willing to change.
Also, Elrond set a crazy high bride-price for Arwen too - Aragorn had to become king of Gondor (which, let's remember, he wasn't really heir to and which had turned down his ancestor's far better claim) AND basically raise Arnor from scratch. Turgon let Idril marry Tuor only because he was blessed by freaking Ulmo AND Turgon owed his father and uncle big time (sacrificing themselves and their people to buy Turgon and his people time to escape).
7. The concept of wereglid was established in Tolkien's work. Luthien had every right to the Silmaril SHE recovered. And not just because she recovered it, but because Celegorm and Curufin kidnapped her to try forcing her into marriage???
It's clear that marriage is pretty holy for elves and NOT something they do for political gain. It's not the same thing as a human being forced into a politically motivated marriage, and as such, is a pretty massive crime she was entitled recompense for.
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frogcat7 · 8 months
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Unfortunately, converting this from a krita file to jpg swept away some detail and worsened the resolution, but I hope it still looks really good :D
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coriandercrickets · 11 months
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Just one thing in it: Me or Him
I love life!!
(Pull out the pin)
Falling Feather and Jackdaw’s Cry from Dawn of the Clans- aka winners of the most fucked-up case of siblings killing eachother in Warrior cats history award!!
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bingbangboom666 · 2 years
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I'm going to compile a list of moments from Warriors that hurt my heart just a little bit more
Spoilers! Obviously
When Hollyleaf told her own mother to kill herself
When Gray Wing was waiting for Turtle Tail to come home, not knowing she was already dead
When Moth Flight remembered how she and Micah had planned their future together before he died
When Silverstream died after giving birth
This is just the beginning!
feel free to add more!
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autistfanatic · 4 months
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Jackdaw's cry and Falling Feathers deaths is so screwed up.
I loved them!
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I really think DOTC could have been significantly better if both Clear Sky and Gray Wing had justifications for their actions prior to The First Battle. As it is, even though we get chapters from Clear Sky's POV, he still comes off as completely unreasonable and kind of unhinged because his actions just do not make any sense. The books come so close to attempting to give him a justification for his actions and then just fail spectacularly at doing so, even though for whatever reason all of the cats living in the forest are undyingly loyal to him after like 3 seconds of doubting him.
The idea of Clear Sky acting irrationally because of the past trauma of losing his mates and watching cats starve to death in front of him is interesting, but they never commit to it. Clear Sky keeps saying he's expanding his borders because he doesn't want to see another cat starve like his sister and Tribemates, which would make sense, except for the fact that time and time again we're told that there's an excess of prey available and all Clear Sky is really accomplishing is getting cats killed for no good reason.
It would have been far more interesting to have his actions motivated by a real prey shortage, and maybe have the problem be made worse by both Clear Sky and Gray Wing, despite good intentions - ex. Gray Wing's refusal to enforce borders means rogues and kittypets are coming to the forest/moor and taking prey during a difficult time like leaf bare; similarly, Clear Sky's brutal enforcement of his borders with little care for its effect on other cats is turning what could have been a mild prey shortage into starvation on the moor, though he believes he is protecting his cats from suffering the same fate as Gray Wing's group. Then at least the battle could have been a real conflict of interests, with both Gray Wing and Clear Sky seeing different ways to resolve an existing problem and coming to blows over it. Instead, what we get is "Gray Wing is normal and Clear Sky is Fucking Insane but we end up with Clans with borders anyway even though it sounds like a totally unnecessary thing to do"
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acid-waste · 1 year
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Rolls eyes I just- come on- Gray Wing is just a dumb fuck the dumbest of all fucks 
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imaginarycircus · 1 year
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Although it makes perfect logical sense--it still surprises me that you can buy this whole Victorian house from 1893 in Vinton, Iowa for a lot less than we bought a small condo in a slightly older Queen Anne house in metro Boston.
Vinton is a town of about 4k people and Benton County has half the number of inhabitants that my town does. Middlesex County, MA is 1.4 million people. We’re a major center for tech, medicine, universities, finance, and tourism.
The photos give me a distinct sense of the different places. I don’t know what other people will see.
first row: The Vinton House, haunted piano room, and map with closest city. second row: detail of our exterior, our living room (before we bought it), Boston map. 
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moth-flights · 1 year
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“Kill me and live with the memory. Then tell the stars that you won.”
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They make me so insane
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rye-designs · 2 years
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Haven’t been drawing consistently in a hot minute, but here’s my take on the cover of The First Battle!! Probably not the easiest project to work on when I’m rusty with drawing, but I actually had a lot of fun with it and I think I’ve improved since the last two covers! :)
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frostbitten-etches · 1 year
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made some transsexuality patches for my jacket >:3
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"transsexuals have got to get meaner" is a phrase I like from @sweatermuppet 's designs but I had an idea and wanted to make my own patch design based on it!!
and "transsexuality is divine" is a design/phrase I made myself inspired by sweatermuppet's transsexual designs as well!
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