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#The Sun Trial
frogcat7 · 7 months
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Unfortunately, converting this from a krita file to jpg swept away some detail and worsened the resolution, but I hope it still looks really good :D
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whistle-free · 2 years
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Why is the UK trial not relevant to the US trial?
It's a misconception that Johnny Depp was suing Amber heard in the UK trial, and that his loss meant he was proven guilty of having abused Amber Heard. It's due to these misconceptions that many don't understand why the UK verdict was considered not relevant to the Virginia case. We'll also be going over why the UK wasn't considered to be a fair trial by the Judge of the Virginia case, Judge Penny Azcarate.
Firstly, the UK case was against The Sun, a tabloid magazine, not Amber Heard. Amber heard was only a witness in the UK case, and in fact couldn't be a party to the case as she was not the writer, editor, or publisher of The Sun's article, which Johnny Depp had alleged to have defamed him.
There was also a significant difference in how each case was heard. In the US the case was heard before a jury who had to come to an unanimous decision after hearing all the evidence. In that trial Amber Heard was a party to the claim and therefore subject to discovery.
In the UK the case was heard before one single judge. In that trial Amber heard was not a party to the claim and therefore not subject to discovery, more on why this is important in a bit.
In the UK case Judge Justice Nicol ruled that The Sun's allegations calling Johnny Depp a "wife beater" were "substantially true." However, there's an unfortunate understanding barrier happening here in the way each court uses language.
The way the phrase "substantially true" was used in the UK verdict was not meant in the way that many would believe it to mean, which would be "this definitely happened. It's actually the equivalent to saying "more likely than not," or the preponderance of the evidence standard in the US, which means that you only need to be 51% sure that it's more likely than not that the party did the things they have been accused of. This is similar in the way the court interprets "actual malice" only to mean a person made a statement which they knew was not true, as opposed to the layperson's understanding of the term to mean a person made a statement in a vindictive manner.
Why is this important? Because "substantially true" is not the same as "true beyond a reasonable doubt." The standard for proof in this ruling is only that the judge had to find that it's more likely than not (again, only needed to be 51% sure) that an event occurred.
Furthermore, this was a libel case, or civil trial, and no one is "found guilty" in a civil case. This means Johnny was not found guilty of having abused Amber Heard. The ruling only meant that this judge was 51% sure that 12 of the 14 acts of domestic violence alleged could have occurred, and therefore The Sun hadn't slandered Johnny Depp.
This ties into why the UK trial was not considered justice in the US, but before we get into that it's worth reiterating that AH was only a witness in the UK case. Because AH was only a witness, she was not subject to the same evidentiary rules as the Sun, the other party in the case. This means that JD's side could not gather any potentially damaging evidence (texts, etc.) against AH's claims from her, but AH could provide whatever evidence and testimony for the Sun's case as she wished as she was their witness. AH also wasn't cross examined regarding her testimony of certain abuse incidents [¶240], which is important in trial as it tests a person's narrative and sees how it holds up to pressure.
In addition to this, there was a lot of evidence that wasn't allowed in, such as expert testimony. No phycologists, no one from Hollywood to explain damages, and no doctors were allowed to be brought in to weigh in on evidence. Certain witness testimony, like that of Depp's former partners, Venessa Paradis and Winona Ryder, also weren't allowed in.
There were also issues of credibility in the UK trial and possibly hypocrisy in judgement. (UK Verdict here. Paragraphs referenced below with "¶")
One such matter involved the Australian preceding about illegally importing dogs into Australia in which AH pled guilty.
A series of emails [¶129-133] showed AH was asking Kevin Murphy to persuade Kate James to make a false statement on the matter of the Australia proceedings.
The judge ruled in this matter that because Kevin Murphy was willing to make a false statement in the Australian preceding [¶139-143] that made him less credible in saying it was AH who pressured him to do so, and therefore his statements didn't have an affect on AH's credibility. [¶147 . iv]
This is despite AH having pled guilty to the offense and the series of emails showing AH was trying to persuade others to make false statements on the matter.
In another matter where AH wrote to homeland security claiming Savannah McMillen was not unlawfully working for her, which was alleged to be a lie, AH's former assistant Kate James testified to confirm that the letter was untrue and even included a check written to McMillen as proof that she was employed by AH. [¶109-115]
If one did view this as AH having lied to Homeland Security then this would be a significant concern against her credibility. Also, Kate James would be one to know if McMillen was employed by AH. However, the judge decided that because Kate James had been fired she would not be a credible source to this claim. This goes against the Judge's earlier declaration of approaching evidence on the case where he says that someone giving evidence under oath made them a more reliable witness. * This is related to the matter where the Judge ruled that AH's own admissions to violence [¶171] held no weight as they were heard in an audio tape and not in court under oath [¶175].
In [¶203] the judge accepts that evidence of AH having a quick temper was not evidence that her temper would lead to violence.
However, the judge then later took evidence that JD and AH had an argument on a plane about her role with James Franco [¶239-241] to be evidence that JD would have then kicked AH in the back. Or, stated plainly, as evidence that JD's temper would lead to violence.
AH's claim that JD had kicked her was refuted by Stephen Deuters [¶247, ¶258] and Jerry Judge in their witness statements. However, the judge discounted both their statements saying that because they were employed by JD their loyalties lied with him. [¶265 . iv]
The judge decided to rely on texts [¶257] over witness testimony [¶265], which again went against the Judge's earlier declaration that he considered that witness testimony under oath was more reliable.
Issue was taken with this as the judge took hearsay evidence (the texts) over two witness statements, and seemingly did so only when it was favorable to AH.
In short, AH's actions didn't seem to have an affect on her own credibility. However, other's actions, even when done under pressure of AH, had an affect on their own credibility when testifying to AH's credibility.
In contrast, JD's actions did have an affect on his own credibility, but other's actions, even when shown to be credible witnesses themselves, were determined not to be credible when testifying for JD as their loyalties lied with them.
Otherwise, the judge desired evidence from witnesses speaking under oath, but only seemed to favor said evidence when it was in AH's favor.
It was for these reasons that the UK trial was not considered to be justice by Judge Azcarate, who wrote in an 11 page opinion letter that she was not persuaded by Heard’s argument that Depp “had a full and fair opportunity to litigate the U.K. action.
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kayit-z · 2 months
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Last year I made this drawings for Nico's birthday but forgot to post them here
I was so excited to see his and Jason's friendship developing in the future, unfortunately rick hates us and though it'd be really funny to kill jason 😒
Anyways, happy birthday nico <3
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svetalmeow · 12 days
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they're my roman empire at this point...
solangelo designs!
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paper-lilypie · 1 month
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pov gregory
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Nico truly is the character ever. He’s gay, he’s autistic, he has adhd and dyslexia, he has depression, he has ptsd, he’s a cane user, his body is full of scars, he can raise the dead, he’s Italian, he’s originally from the 30s, his memory was erased, he has a cool sword, he loves so much it will be his doom, he’s the son of hades, he has beef with Cupid, he knows gods and creatures from all mythologies around the world, he can teleport, gods love him but people his age are scared of him, he’s a practican pagan who used to be catholic, he’s emo, he’s both a younger sibling and an older sibling, he’s the first person ever to go to Tartarus and come back alive, and he did it twice, he’s in a autistic4autistic relationship, he’s short, he’s Antigone and Joan of arc, he was turned into a dandelion and into corn once, he was homeless, he’s getting therapy from the god of wine and parties, he killed a guy, he’s guilt and sacrifice personified, he’s 15 years old, he
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piperscharm · 3 months
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something the percy jackson fandom isn’t accepting is nico getting better. everyone’s used to him being the emo little meow meow. he ain’t the fandom’s lil emo pout pout boy anymore. remember his 10 year old jumpy and excited self? he’s coming back to that. maybe not as much energy but he’s becoming more (un)serious, content and calm. he’s not angry, sad and emo anymore. in fact, he’s slightly annoyed by his emo boy title. my boy is becoming lightly happy again. he’s coming full circle and that’s beautiful. i’m sorry that some of you can’t accept change (i have a lot to say on with jason’s death).
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bleeding-ambrosia · 10 months
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i wish we got more of them interacting ⚡️
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tarragonthedragon · 1 year
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percy jackson is a comedy actually because people keep being like "children of hades' fatal flaw is holding grudges........... they have demonic powers and evil urges........ theyre cursed to terrible fates and theyre all creepy and weird..........." and then the children of hades we meet are like. a girl scout, a tabletop gaming nerd, and a horse girl.
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spicassis · 1 year
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Happy Birthday Nico !! Remember you’re not alone ☀️
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skywerse · 2 months
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gilly turnaround sheet
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billfrancois · 19 days
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I almost forgot how much I adore Sun and Moon's character designs~
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whistle-free · 2 years
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Helloooo, just curious as to whether the most recent verdict proves Depp wasn’t abusive? He won the defamatory case, so the op ed was proven false I think? But what does this mean when Depp was seen as guilty of 12 out of 14 counts of DV by the U.K. courts? This the defamation verdict cancel out the guilty of DV verdict?
Similarly, does the verdict mean Heard was the abuser? She lost the defamation case, but she wasn’t proven guilty of abuse. But then why are people convinced she was the abuser, and why didn’t Depp take Heard into court for DV?
Hi! These are great questions!
(Going to try this again because Tumblr ate it the first time I tried to answer.)
The answer to your first (and fifth) question is likely going to be slightly unsatisfying, because this was a civil defamation case, and therefore the verdict neither proves or disproves that either Johnny or Amber were abusive to the other as that wasn't what was being ruled on.
However, you are correct in believing that since the jury found in favor that the three statements were defamatory that the statements Amber made in the op-ed were determined to be false.
As far as the UK case I'm currently drafting a post on that now that will go into more detail, and I encourage you to stick around for that as it will answer your question better than I could sum it up here, but in short; The Virginia verdict technically doesn't 'cancel out' the UK trial verdict, but it does potentially open some doors to appeal that ruling. There was a reason the judge in the Virginia case said JD did not get a fair trial in the UK case, and I'll explain that more in the upcoming post.
To reiterate the above for your next question, the Virginia case was a civil defamation suit, and you'd be correct in saying that AH wasn't proven guilty of abuse because no one is 'found guilty' in civil cases, they are only found to be liable. The reason many are convinced AH was the abuser despite no former ruling for or against the matter is due to watching the trial and coming to that conclusion after weighing the evidence presented, namely the audio tapes where AH admits to striking JD and to starting physical fights.
As for why Depp didn't take Heard into court for DV, only he can really answer that. However, one could speculate many things, like maybe he thought no one would take him seriously as a man claiming to be a victim, or perhaps he, like many victims, didn't want to press charges against his abuser for any various reasons not limited to fear, love, or even just not wanting to relive any abuse any more than he had to. There's also the matter of the alleged abuse having taken place in different countries and states, all with their own statutes of limitations which could make pressing charges tricky.
Hope this answers your questions! If I misunderstood something you asked, or I wasn't clear on something, feel free to let me know!
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kayit-z · 1 month
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Happy Valentine's day :)♡
Drawing solangelo torturing cupid for valentine's day my tradition now, ideas for the next years are welcomed.
<- 2023 version
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urlnotfound-404 · 11 months
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Since TSATS is coming out in 12 days, if anyone wants to reread all of Nico’s story so far without having to committ to rereading all 15+ books, a couple months ago I made a Nico di Angelo masterdoc with all his mentions and appearances. Every single one.
It’s got all of PJO, HOO and TOA. I didn’t get around to the shorts stories yet so it’s still a work in progress, but the main series are all there. 
Anyway I’m dropping the google link below.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xW_qQJxgJJ-Xknp0dUQ5J0z7w37EnF3b/view?usp=sharing
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churrofoxart · 23 days
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I found some beautiful solangelo art on Instagram thought more people need to see it
The account is: @_r3nni3_ on Instagram
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