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olderthannetfic · 13 days

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I always see people who have never been antis, talking about/questioning how some antis even ARE antis when you look at their taste in media - ie the ever famous joke of "Hannigram is #problematique" "but it's a show where he eats people" or whatever.

I thought I'd weigh in as someone who could, hypothetically, be called an ex-anti (which, thankfully, nothing ever really came out of it - it was just very 2014 keyboardwarrior-esque behavior of me being a chronically online young adult who would share posts in a group chat making fun of certain shippers, or reblog posts about how 50shades is The Most Problematic Media Ever to exist -- basically I was an anti with anti-lines of thoughts, but i never, like, a ran a Shipping Discourse Blog or whatever)

For me, personally, it was a few different things. I can now see how it's incredibly hypocritical that teenaged me shipped Light/L, while still thinking that Dramione was Bad And Abusive. It ultimately boiled down to a) being pretentious, and b) just not understanding media or what proshippers REALLY believed, with a side of c) not realizing that nuance exists. like i was pretty late to join tumblr, I think I immigrated here during PEAK "yourfaveisproblematic" era which definitely did have an impact on my opinions and my tastes.

to elaborate, a.) being pretentious. i mean this one just kinda goes without saying. "I engage in media in a way more intellectual way than you do, don't you know that? You're a filthy and disgusting person who writes Snape/Hermione because you're an actually disgusting pedophile IRL who would probably date your own student that you're abusing if you could. Meanwhile, I'm a very smart, good, and pure person. When I read Uncle Vernon/Harry, I'm doing it in a G-d honoring whump way that clearly condemns abuse, incest, and rape. Unlike YOU who only writes harmful stuff as a way to get people off :/"

(as an aside, i think this line of thinking will ALWAYS be present in fandom and popculture in some way, sadly. ie the recent trend of people hating on booktok bc the books are 'trashy' and how these porn addicts should read real classic literature instead.)

as for b.), not understanding media - i cannot emphasize enough that i was GENUINELY stupid and disconnected enough to think that proshippers REALLY WERE pro-All Of The Degenerate Dead Doves That They Wrote.

why did i feel this way? why did i understand that Lolita clearly isnt pro-pedophilia, but for some reason i thought that someone shipping weecest was? well, first of all, i think that fanfiction is (generally) seen as Less Serious than classic literature, and fandom is a fun place, so i guess i somehow thought that every fanfic/fanartist who wrote Problematic Things, especially Problematic Things that they portrayed as Sexy, really DID enjoy the thought of that Actually Happening To Real People.

and i think THIS is the bulk of why antis ARE antis. i'm not calling them all stupid - i do think BEING an anti is stupid, but at the same time, there are people who are truly smart and good-intended people who just have some really off color opinions about, like, homestuck ships or whatever. Lawlight is okay because notebooks that kill people don't exist so it's IMPOSSIBLE for the Harmful Aspects of Light/L to be romanticized! but schoolyard prejudiced bullies DO exist and are a REAL problem so Drarry is BAD (*truly completely unaware of the fact that there's 'realistic' aspects of the Light/L dynamic and 'unrealistic' aspects of Drarry - such as, for example, Hogwarts arguably being even MORE of a fantasy setting than DN is.*) I know that media literacy is the hot buzzword of the year to throw around in 2024, but, like, i really did not have media literacy.

as for c.), not realizing nuance exists - ok "nuance" might not be the best word here, but i dont know how else to describe it. like, each time ive typed the word "problematic" out in this ask, i've done so in a very tongue in cheek/ironic/retroactive way, but, like, those posts about how Everything Is Problematic, Including Your Fave ARE true. and i didn't like the fact that my favorite media or favorite person might've Made A Mistake! i need to Talk About Its Issues Because I'm So Betrayed That My Dear Sweet Comfort Media Would Do This To Me. I Need To Prove I Clearly Condemn It.

like, i legit morally could not justify reblogging a twilight post without adding in the tags '#this is my guilty pleasure it sucks that the books were so racist though' or whatever. Most people were lucky enough to avoid that line of thinking, but there was an actual group of people who felt a genuine need to virtue signal all the time, partly bc, hey, they WERE passionate about talking abt #issues in media, but also bc of a subconscious fear of If You Reblog A Singular Piece Of Hetalia Fanart, You're Literally A Nazi And Will Get A Callout Post Written About You.

and during all of this i was at the tail end of my high school experience (yes i know im younger than most of your audience, ha). i was going through A Lot emotionally, going through a lot of life changes, and lived in a very . . . interesting household/place where i couldn't do ACTUAL good in the world that i was passionate about. so to make up for the fact that i was genuinely in no place to do legit activism, clearly i had to save the gay community by arguing about johnlock queerbaiting or whatever.

^ and honestly i do think that is the position of most antis. theyre isolated and cant seem to do Enough in the Real Scary World so they have to resort to talking about how bad of a person someone is for "shipping abuse", bc theyre not in a situation where they could, for example, ACTUALLY fight the good fight to end abuse or raise awareness for it.

There was way more to it and way more that I could say, if I wanted to, but this post is long enough as it is and probably doesn't make much sense.

I feel bad for antis, honestly, or at least the ones who are antis in the way I used to be.

Oh yes, passionate young fools who think they can at least fix the internet if not their lives make up most of the cannon fodder. Some of the ringleaders are just mini dictators and wannabe cult leaders, but most anti-leaning types are just traumatized or clueless, even a lot of the ones who do serious damage and don't just mock shit in private with their friends.

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proship-selfship · 1 year

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I regret to inform yall that the Cult of Antis are at it again. I was made aware of this on my main account by a friend (thank you for telling me), so now I'm passing this on to you guys.

An anti on their blog highlighted the part in the Tumblr community guidelines where it explains that CSEM or content promoting pedophilia are not allowed on Tumblr, and that any blogs posting, promoting, or linking to this content will be terminated, with the content reported to law enforcement and the Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

They then encouraged their followers to report proshippers for posting CSEM, but I'm not sure this will have the result they're hoping for, as there is a question asking if the post contains a fictional minor.

As most are well aware, the Center for Missing and Exploited Children has asked repeatedly that people not report Loli/Shota/general NSFW artists to the or law enforcement as these reports are a waste of resources. I have heard accounts from friends of police raiding their homes and finding nothing on their computers that warrants an arrest. I don't think these reports will have the effect Antis think they will, but this is Tumblr, not Twitter, and we know how useless Staff is.

To Antis reading this: You are taking resources away from children who are real humans and are in need of help with these reports. The police will not do anything.

#proship safe #pro ship safe #proship #antis are a cult #important

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tamayakii · 11 months

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Simonrileyscockring aka Maxim is a liar and claims frogchiro stole their ideas. Here's proof he lied.

@simonrileyscockring Now since you dont wanna acknowledge me or my post calling you out, i decided to make it its own post so more people can see it. I don't like liars. i don't like virtue signalers "dni proshippers" we interacted tons of times, i sent you asks, my own art, we talked in dms, i even checked on you when i worried about you and now you're worried about "proshippers" and realize the term i identify with, which means "anti-harassment, respecting peoples fictional preferences" and not whatever tiktok-brained bullshit you think it is? So convenient you say that AFTER i send you an ask asking if you were gonna acknowledge what the hell you did. edits: the only edits i did was "@/" Konigsblog cause they said they apologized and acknowledged what they did, whether or not the apology is accepted is not up to me.

original call out below: you absolute dunce. i LOVED your writing before but the drama on your page, responding to hate anons rather than just deleting their asks drove me off. I have so many words for you

EVERYONE can see your personal posts, they just don't LIKE them cause who the fuck wants to like a post that's a vent post? it feels wrong, people see it and choose not to react, people see you vagueing about someone stealing "your" concepts (which theyve written BEFORE cod fandom erupted on tumblr and aka before YOUR popularity) they'll want to know cause stealing writing is very serious!! but oh wait!!! they didn't steal shit!!! They never wrote about a teenager, which btw when you say all this shit and show no proof it fucking sucks!! cause people are so tiktok-brained that they will believe anything!

Because you decided to pull a fuckin mean girl move with @/konigsblog you ruined someone's love for writing and this fandom. "no one got harmed" my fucking ass. You as a writer should know that motivation comes and goes, and that hyperfixtations can be the closest thing to people. So rather than acting like a fucking man, you vague and claim they wrote about a minor as well, btw heres the teenager you claim is well, a teenager

Scaramouche is a puppet made by Raiden Ei, over 500 years ago to the current time in genshin impact. When Raiden Ei's sister had passed and she wanted to make a puppet to be the archon but she left him in a slumbering state, free from her own control cause he came to life crying which puppets aren't supposed to do. He woke up and thought she abandoned him, then OVER 5 HUNDRED YEARS AND THREE BETRYALS LATER. The fandom baby-fies him admittedly, but he's not obsessed with his mother nor does he have a teenager mentality. He's a bitter and aloof character, only getting mad when his creation or betrayals are brought up,

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"a teenager physqiue" Okay lets challenge that, In the game this model is called Short_Male, it been used for Cyno, Tighnari, Kazuha, Xiao, Albedo, Mika, Chongyun, Bennet, Xingqiu, Heizou, Gorou, Venti, Razor, and even the male traveller.(I'm gonna use basic terms since you obviously never played the game if you think he's child like) Cyno is basically an officer in the game for the Akademiya, aka an adult. Tighnari is basically like a forest ranger, an adult. Kazuha sails around the sea while being a poet AND a sword expert because of his family line, becoming an expert swordsman takes YEARS even in real life, he's an adult. Xiao is over 5,000 years old and a "deputy" for an Archon. Albedo is a synthetic experiment human made 500 years ago from the current timeline in the game. Heizou is also a cop, an adult. Gorou is a fucking ADMIRAL, an adult. VENTI is literally over 2k years old. an adult. The traveller is AT LEAST over a thousand years old, cause the traveller that you choose slumbers for 500 years.

The rest are hinted to be late teenagers or early twenties depending on who you ask.

I even took pictures of these models in-game compared to a Tall_Male model!

Here's scaramouche, compared to Diluc and Tighnari! who aren't children! Now let's see an actual model of CONFIRMED children, why don't we?

here we have klee, who despite being something like 50 or 75 years old, is still mentally a child!! So she has the child model since she is still physically growing up, unlike Scaramouche AND Albedo.

Scaramouche isn't a child. he doesn't have child-like features. He's not obsessed with his mother, cause he does not have one cause motherfucker is a 500-year-old puppet, he's mentally an adult, physically an adult that was prepared for archon duties.

Sorry, i droned on about this for so long but i just fuckkking hate it when people are wrong. So blindly like you are,

here's proof that you said that, incase you go on a deleting frenzy.

Now let's talk about the point system, point systems are so widespread in real life and in fiction, even i used a point system once before. So to see it, in a COMPETITION(cause they are in the pervy AU) between men isn't weird to see. If you genuinely had a problem with this, Kin would've LOVED to talk it out with you as they're lovely and understanding human being.

the stray cat au? i even remember reading about it on both of your blogs but heres the thing.... the last time they wrote about it was in October.. of last year.

i had to search your blog just in case i was wrong in thinking they wrote it before you did.

as you can see, this is march of this YEAR. checking your archive, you made your blog back in February of this year. To claim they stole your concept of stray cat is beyond fucking insane, as well as bringing up the post with scaramouche in it cause.. that was over at least 10 months ago, cause Kin had went on a hiatus when December came around and came back with a COD hyperfixtation.

Onto the stealing the hubull concept! Searching their blog I can't find any evidence of them even writing a bull-like idea, at all. So you seemed to pull that one straight out of your ass.

So let's go over this real quick! one more time for the people in the back!!!

@simonrileyscockring made a post vagueing that someone stole their concepts and ideas, @/konigsblog replies below asking, hey who is it? maxim responds saying its @frogchiro and claiming that they wrote about a teenager and stole their point system for an au. Publicly. Instead of going to Frogchiro and trying to work it out, like a 23-year-old should. You keep drilling on about it, claiming that people trying to defend them are being your entertainment now

sure some people shouldn't have come in attacking you, i won't defend people who throw cruel words at you. You can claim this to be an attack but all i'm doing is calling you out, cause as you claim "it doesn't affect the way you live your life" you let it go and ruin someone else's way of life, destroying their love for fandom and writing. As a writer yourself that ive SEEN struggle with motivation AND hate anons, you of ALL people should fucking understand that getting your love for writing ruined is a terrible thing to happen especially when its an outlet for stress.

"i wanna talk shit in peace, not have my shit gossiped about." .. that is noooot how the internet works OR how shit-talking works, as the biggest shit-talker in MY family, i understand that when i talk shit, there's another person behind me talking shit. When YOU post vagueing about someone, and then continue talking about them, people will gossip about you. End of story. You should've blocked them in the first place, you also should've messaged Kongisblog PRIVATELY if you really wanted to avoid all of them. The only screenshots that i know that kin was sent, were you confirming that they "stole" your ideas and that they wrote about a teenager. How can they refute your claims without knowing what your claims are. They had to defend themselves from people in their inbox.

So, really in the end here, you fucked up. As a previous fan of your im highly disappointed in you but seeing how you act i doubt that will affect you, i make this post-DEFENDING frogchiro from pointless claims, AND in hopes that anyone who wants to follow you. Will find this post cause you are a fucking asshole to the core. Step back and realize that while it may not affect you, your actions affect others.

#call of duty x reader #call of duty modern warfare #cod mw2 x reader #call of duty headcanons #abo 141 #141 abo #pervy 141 #cod modern warfare #cod x reader #call of duty mw2 x reader #simon riley x reader #johnny mactavish x reader #kyle garrick x reader #john price x reader #phillip graves x reader #alejandro vargas x reader #rodolfo parra x reader

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chaosandthe-deadblog · 4 months

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hi i’m that one person who was upset about a sonadow sex joke you made. let me preface by saying i’m not here to argue or scare you but to apologize.

you don’t have to respond to this at ALL i just saw your blog name and felt guilty for hurting you.

im sorry about upsetting you and reacting the way i did. i still think its eugh and everything. but i just get upset when people make jokes about that with characters previously stated to be minors because of personal trauma and people sexualizing me as a kid and just morals in general. of course i know that i can’t control how people enjoy their stuff, and i know it’s going to exist regardless. but i want to at least know if who im interacting with is someone i don’t want to talk to due to being a proshipper or whatever stuff like that.

i wasn’t trying to ‘cancel’ you or anything. i was upset and said something in the moment. i’m sorry. i should have just unfollowed and moved on. i should’ve saw the human i knew behind the screen but what i could only think of was a random person i didn’t know. i’m really sorry.

well, anon, i accept your apology. but also i dont. so let's take this one by one, okay?

first of all. you're still wrong, and i'm still angry.

it wasnt a "sex joke", i was commenting on a uquiz someone else made, because i found the sheer fact that sonadow of all ships was included in that quiz to be really funny. not to mention, the uquiz was based on statistics from ao3, and i guessed the correct answer by just knowing how shipping culture works. i thought this was funny. you know, people are allowed to find suggestive humor funny, even if you're uncomfortable with it, anon.

but i'll humor you. lets say i was doing the things i got accused of doing. big deal. i don't think you're wrong for being upset, much less for being uncomfortable, but one: could've settled this over dms, two: not everyone is you. not everyone is uncomfortable. not everyone cares so much. i didn't give that joke more than two seconds of thought, you clearly did, and i don't think you're wrong for that, i think it wasn't my problem.

secondly, and this will sound horrible, but (like i said) your discomfort isn't something i (the people running that oc poll, and my followers, by the way) needed to know about. i hear you, anon, and i'm sorry that all that happened to you. i understand the discomfort. but, like i said, we could've settled this in private, you could've at least told me which mutual you were, and no one else had to know.

third: i am not a proshipper, and i don't appreciate that you're still calling me gross, by the way. this isn't an apology if you're not accepting you were wrong. i'll humor you again and say that i was doing what you say i was doing: it is not that serious to me, and i don't like being called gross for something that is just plain, morally neutral weird (not good, not bad, neutral weird)

and fourth: thank you for at least recognizing what you should've done. however you didn't do that. from what i understand, based on what happened shortly after your anon, you went to the person running that sonic oc poll (which, whatever, i was losing anyway), and you lied about what i was doing to get me kicked out. good on you for realizing that was wrong. but you know, i'm still angry. im banned from many fandom events now because you couldn't just unfollow me. so i'm glad you realized it was wrong, i accept your apology, but i'm still very much angry with you.

i'm glad you're sorry, i'm glad you're recognizing i'm a human being (okay?) and i'm glad you at least tried to apologize. don't call me gross, apologize for real, and next time don't do this to someone through tumblr anon over whats essentially a common ocurrence on the sonic fandom, and every other fandom

(by the way, even if we weren't mutuals, you shouldnt do something like this to "a random person you don't know" either, but what do i know right? and "because of my trauma" isn't an excuse, because by that logic you also generated trauma in me, because now i'm fucking paranoid about everything i fucking post. i can thank you for that.)

have a nice day.

by the way

#asks #anon i beg you to leave me alone and get a better hobby

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helios-co · 8 months

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At this point when I notice "antishipper" or "proshippers dni" in the bio of someone I actually like, I just kinda assume they're misinformed until I see otherwise...

Just to set the record straight, a proshipper is someone who doesn't attack people for shipping problematic ships. Sometimes that's because they themself ship problematic ships like incest, adult/minor, or abusive ships, but the only thing you can actually know about a proshipper's views is that they follow the policies of ship-and-let-ship and don't-like-don't-read. I call myself a proshipper because I'm not gonna harass or publicly shame people who ship stuff I don't like or agree with. I've posted anti-izuocha in the past with some malice, sure, but that was from the perspective of defending canon. People claim it's "clearly canon" when it's not and it pisses me off. But if someone tells me "I ship izuocha whether or not they're canon because I think they're cute together and that they'd be happy together" we have no problem. I respect that 100%. I'll maybe try to convince them of my own views but I'm not gonna be a bitch to them if they stand firm in their own.

The entire concept of being antiship is pro-censorship and pro-harassment. It's saying "if you ship something bad in fiction you deserve to be called out because you're a bad person and I hate you". Even if people DON'T ship the bad thing and they just write or draw it because the dynamic interests them, the same way people write whump of their fav character or draw gore, the antishipper view is "you're hurting real people by creating fictional works and you're a shit person". I think that's bullshit. I am anti-censorship. Keeping people, especially children, from seeing shit that isn't for them, is the job of the adult. If they're an adult, they need to be aware of the shit they can't deal with and curate their own experience based on it. Tumblr let's you block tags you don't wanna see. Ao3 has it's entire revolutionary tagging and filtering system to let you pick what you do and don't wanna see. Don't like, don't read. If they're a child, it's their adult guardians' responsibility to monitor their internet access and let them know (constructively and gently!!) what to avoid online. If your kid is seeing nsfw online, no matter the topic or ship, don't blame it on the content creators, blame yourself. The only thing I expect of the creators is tagging your shit properly with the necessary content warnings and spoilering text or images on certain platforms when it's needed.

Anyways, this is probably gonna be our only post on this subject, but our views are out there now and we're standing by them.

#proship #antiship #shipcourse #proshipper #misinformation #censorship #pro shipping #bnha ships #fandom #izuocha #bakudeku #ao3 #tumblr #dont like dont read #ship and let ship

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mamuzzy · 4 months

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Oh cool, a TCW blog reblogged my art! Let's check their tumblr! *___*

< description: no clonecest, no rexoka, no masterpadawan no this no that... >

Ok. That's it. This is the first time I blocked someone who is not a bot. And from now on I'm gonna block everyone who interacts with my stuff but I see a description with labels of any anti-fictional-dni-stuff especially when I'm creating in one of those.

FUCKOFF. I don't need to see this negativity in my life.

Yeah, I get it, I can draw general art ANYTIME but you can't unhate your squicks. I totally get it. And yes, I can tag the shit out of my art so your pretty little fragile bubble won't be corrupted by the thing you find morally fucked up for whatever reason you can come up with.

But when I go to your fucking tumblr page after you fucking interacted with MY STUFF, I see those lines, I see the hate, sometimes I see Death-to-proshippers shit, I see everything you label yourself and... you know what? I don't care if you are a nice person in real life (probably not, there, I judge you because of your tumblr page) you choose to label yourself with DNI-anti-fuckery and you choose to label yourself with something wishing that REAL people should die over loving fictional whateverthefuck!

FUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOU.

This blog supports cloneship, I'm pretty sure I reblogged some Obikin before, and the only reason I haven't reblogged Rexoka yet because they are not tickling my brain as a couple right now, but you know what, I see a Rexoka on my dash I'm gonna reblog it just out of spite! Or because I love the artstyle, whatever.

What really angers me that you don't take the effort to actually block the people who are in your dni-list. Oh, you love reblogs and likes from anyone, huh? Reblogs are not stinky and moraly fucked up, huh?

Fuckoff.

F U C K O F F .

#i don't know how to tag my non-bpd related ventposts #but you know what #bpdick fucks me in the brain again #because I met with this fucking contradiction #yeah probably the contradiction set me off #proship #purity wank #anti anti #cloneship #fuck the tags too #fuckoff

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digglesgiggless · 9 months

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Firstly, thank you I really appreciate it, I try to rely on my instincts as much as possible and while it's saved me from a LOT of bad situations, lots of people truly despise me for being so outward lol. Can't win em all. Plus yeah, while I indulge in "problematic" content I would never post NSFW to this tumblr, this is a SFW tumblr blog and always will be. I'm doing okay, things could be better but things could also be like, worse n stuff. As for the JOKU drama, thankfully my partner got a wayback machine link to the original post, it takes a bit to load, but it's all there. Thankfully!

And yeah, as for antis I have a hard time sympahtizing with their mindset, I know I USED to be like that, and maybe that's why my distaste for the way they are is so.. big? But I can just never justify harassing someone over things that aren't real. Purist culture has honest to god, NEVER been this bad, and it's partly why I've moved back HERE to tumblr, because this community if anything scoffs upon purist culture for the most part. Not a lot of social medias can say the same right now. I kinda hate to say it doesn't surprise me to hear that a bunch of NEW adults wanted to doxx a bunch of little kids, they're still basically teenagers (I was still JUST as immature at 18 as I was at 17. I don't know why people thinking turning eighteen makes themselves better then minors it's like some weird canon event lmao). The thing is if antis really got their way they wouldn't be able to consume like 90% of the media they normally do, because ANYTHING can be considered offensive/problematic in terms of what's being used. (gore lover antis really need a fuckin wake up call. they're just as "bad") I fully believe antis are super immature for constantly going to war with EVERY person they see, and that can EXCLUDE proshippers! Because they're generally just terrible, argumentative and toxic people to anyone that doesn't see things the way they do. But my ass WILL go to war with antis when they harass my friends, that's for sure.

#diggstalks #long post

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coffincest-philosophy · 6 months

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crazy how cannibalism and satanism will go unnoticed but people will draw the line at incest. it’s supposed to be messed up like what do you expect?? also fiction ≠ real life.

personally? idgaf what the antis think about the ship because . they’re both hot af and ashley is so me coded hejej

your blog is super cool btw and i’m considering buying the game to play for myself

Yeah fandom is... interesting.

Honestly I mostly try to just block people and stay out of arguments. Arguing with people about fandom issues just makes me have a bad time and I'd rather spend my time online enjoying the things I like instead of getting heated over them. I've been part of tumblr fandom for over 10 years now, so my points of view on fandom drama are much more in line with older fandom.

I don't touch the "proship vs. anti" stuff with a 10 foot pole because I think both sides of the argument have been watered down to mean absolutely nothing. Antis have a different definition of what "proship" means than proshippers have, and proshippers have a different definition of "anti" than antis have. So at this point, to me, it's mostly just an argument about semantics, and that gives me too much of a headache to participate in. I stopped using twitter because of it since tumblr, although still not perfect, is a lot better.

My main point of view on most fandom drama boils down to: I can tell the difference between fiction and reality, but if you are someone who can't distinguish that line then it means you shouldn't participate in fandom for your own safety. At the end of the day, our brains all work differently, and we have no right to police others because of how our own individual thinking works. Block and move on, if you stop having a good time and it begins to effect you irl, maybe fandom isn't a healthy choice for you.

ANYWAY! The game is super fun and I totally recommend it! I'm actually not a fan of video games (normally I just watch lets plays) but I really enjoyed playing through the two chapters that are out so far and I can't wait for more to come out!! Hopefully you get a chance to play it!!

Also yes, Ashley is very hot. I want to thirst over her from a distance though and I hope she's never within a 1 mile radius of me for my own safety. Ashley, I promise I'm a lesbian and I have no interest in your greasy brother.

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biopanik · 8 months

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The Morality of Fandom Activities

This might as well be an essay, so apologies for my long asf post. Just a few heads up: this is in no way talking about people who support incest irl and MAPS. Those are extreme cases that I'm not qualified myself to talk about, I only know that I don't want them on my page 😭

I stopped having a very active social media presence when I was finishing high school. For me, this was a huge deal, because as the token weird queer kid all my life, Tumblr and fandom culture provided a safe space for self-expression, developing my writing skills and exploring myself. Fandoms usually play a huge role for teens, since their interactions and their experiences shape their mindsets into the primary form their adult brain takes. Whenever I look at my old posts, I can see the points where I was maturing, I could see my opinions change very clearly without always connecting old posts to significant life events.

What is very important to take into account is that I was in ALL the "red flag" fandoms, even some niche ones. BNHA, Homestuck, RWBY, Okegom, Voltron, you name it. I was into it, I had Instagram edits of it saved on my phone. As a result, I am familiar with all kinds of fujoshi, yuri bros, proshippers, etc. I'm not here to inform you about my entire digital footprint though. I'm here to discuss fandom morality. Fair warning, I will be referring to a bunch of dark themes vaguely.

I want to start by saying I understand the appeal of a toxic ship. A ship that is straight-up problematic given the context of the story. Be it because the characters are abusive to each other, a very big age gap or them being blood relatives - I get it, even if I'm one of the people who's easily repelled by this shit. I get why Junjou Romantica, for example, became so popular. The big body proportions, the "forbidden romance" trope, the guilty pleasure, I get it. I understand how nerdy young women would fawn over yaoi because they craved a soft male touch. I understand the south park proshippers because they inserted their younger selves into the characters and imagined scenarios where their own fucked-up childhoods would make sense.

My experience with Funamusea helped me understand that things that are taboo can be appealing in a fictional form. There were a lot of issues because the horror used in Funa's games was centered around sexual battery and assault. To me, that made perfect sense. Funa games are packed to the brim with gore, war, mental abuse, and disturbing characters. Of course, there would be SA in such a fucked up setting. Rape is a horrifying thing that no one should face because it is a subcategory of violence. VIOLENCE IS SOMETHING NO ONE SHOULD EVER COME ACROSS. Therefore, why is it that people who write stories containing this trope receive so much hate, but 1940s war aus for example get praised? Why is FMA a pacifist masterpiece and not torture porn?

For "glorifying" real-life horrors? Triggering people? Let's broaden this.

Think of your favorite slasher film. Your favorite best-seller horror book. Do you think that the people behind these stories are freaks and murderers? Psychopaths are capable of fitting in anywhere they want, even fucking churches. So it is useless to assume creators are moral instigators for their VILLAINS. Now let's think about Colleen Hoover and Sara J Maas (or as I like to call her, Sara J Ass). Their "love" stories are super popular because of the immense marketing that they have received, despite profiting off romanticized harmful content. Backlash is still minimized in contrast to anime niche, because they are backed by million-dollar industries and the fact that they conform to the norms of a straight story. Although that, is a topic for another discussion - how problematic characteristics are "musts" in irl relationships.

Lastly, I want to talk about the so-called community saviors who want to protect these platforms. Those who want to build a safe environment so that no predators infiltrate our sacred grounds where we discuss Persona 5 ABO dynamics. A lot of them are oftentimes victims of this sort of abuse. I myself have come across groomers. But tbh 15yo kids who reblog Shiro X Keith are not really the enemy? Anyway, that's a little besides the point. I want to directly talk to these people right now, hear me out: you are hypocrites. You only pretend to care about Tumblr communities but do not hesitate to accuse someone of abuse (any kind) and tell them to end their life. How are you protecting anyone like this? How are you a positive role model for the children partaking in fandom activities when you show clearly that you wish death upon someone. VIOLENCE IS SOMETHING NO ONE SHOULD EVER COME ACROSS, I re-iterate and you possibly agree, but YOU ARE STILL VIOLENT, and justify it by being "virtuous". How are you any different from @\hivliving? Her actions will forever be engraved in her victims' heads, even if she was humiliated in the end. Then again, it would have been better for her to write a shitty low-quality fic about Hamilton having HIV or whatever the fuck, if looking up basic things about HIV was so difficult. After 7 years in & out of fandoms, there's one thing I'm fine with, and that's bad fics.

Ultimately there is so much more I want to say. I might cover this topic on my bestie and I's podcast sometime (soz it's in Greek). The bottom line here though is not about keeping a neutral stance on problematic media. It is to enjoy whatever the fuck you want just because it makes you happy. It is to differentiate what's a wolf in sheep's clothing from what's a sheep. It is to accept that kids will ALWAYS lie about their age to access all sorts of NSFW. God knows I did so. It is to recognize them and realize that their creators and fans are most likely not going to act out every bad thing that occurs in said story. Because if that were the case, with the rise of all the Yeagerists, we'd have so many bitchless college students trying to start little rumblings of their own, and the world would be a much funnier place.

Now go outside and spread your moral philosophies to people outside your Discord server

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cherrysmokesaconha · 9 months

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Hello there silly followers! (And also anons)

My name is CHERRY! Welcome to my Tumblr account!

I am a 16 yrs old aromantic autistic gal who likes to draw and share my stuff! I used to have another Tumblr account but now is deactivated for personal reasons. (My ass is also brazilian btw lol)

I used to post on Twitter but I deactivated my account on there because of recent X stuff (I h8 u Melon Husky). So now I am posting here. :P

My ass account is also MULTIFANDOM! I post about a lot of fandoms!

Those are the fandoms I'm in!

• Bugbo (mainly about my Bugjoe kid, Veneloppe. Their AU is unnamed);

• Eddsworld (mostly OCs and AUs. My AUs are: Cassworld, Lost Hope, Dream AU and also The Dumped Child);

• Dave and Bambi (I will maybe post ship art like DxB and/or DxM but it's mostly about Eleonor and Elliot! They're a Dave x Muko kid and a Dave x Bambi kid / My main AU is Forgotten Failures AU. More info soon);

• Friday Night Funkin' in General (My AU is called Saturday Night Singin');

• The Henry Stickmin Collection (My Main AU is Experiencing the Next Generation, who is mostly a fanchild/Next Gen AU);

• ASDFMovie (I call this AU "asdf fankids", it's about three fankids called David/Heart Son, Danídia/Bomb Daughter & Stephan/Steph).

There's maybe more but I can't remember for now. I will update this if I need to add something.

I will be also adding TAGS in my posts!

My tags are:

- #cherry talks - for rants, answering asks, and stuff

- #cassworld, #lost hope au, #dream au & #the dumped child au - Tags for my EW AUs

- #forgotten failures au, #eleonor's educational playtime - Tags for my DnB AUs and stuff

- #experiencing the next generation - For my Henry Stickmin Next Gen AU

- #asdf fankids - For David/Heart Son, Danídia/Bomb Daughter & Steph/Stephan, my ASDFMovie fankids

- #cherryverse - for crossovers between my AUs or just my AUs in general.

- #cherries art stuff - for arts in general!

DON'T FUCKING INTERACT WITH ME:

• Proshippers/Comshippers (I will block u!!!);

• You trash on harmless shipping;

• MAPs/Pedophiles;

• Dreamsexuals, Plantsexuals or any of those fucked up sexualities;

• You ship Henry x Ellie or Henry x Dr. Vinsch. (depends of your actions!! If you ship them but respects the ones who likes differents ships or even is a multishipper, then you're fine!);

• TomEdd/Tom x Edd Shippers;

• You think the DnB devs are uncomfortable with shipping (Moldy and Rapparep created Dave and Bambi and are okay with it, C O P E.);

• You call 2004 Tord "Teen Tord" (don't assume things about him, the CHARACTER literally have vague age, separate the character to the real person PLEASE???);

• You're an asshole in general.

Maybe I will add more if I feel like lol

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REFS OF MY OCS/FANCHILDREN! ↓

• Ricky / Danídia/Bomb Daughter & David/Heart Son / Gradient Veneloppe / Steph/Stephan (more soon!)

ENJOY YOUR STAY! 🌸

#cherry talks #cassworld #lost hope au #dream au #the dumped child au #cherries art stuff #forgotten failures au #eleonors educational playtime #asdf fankids #cherryverse #pinned

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olderthannetfic · 4 months

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Hello! Hope you're having a nice time

Would you have any possible thoughs about this analysis?

https://www.tumblr.com/deepseametro/738424190501289984

Oh god. A self-described 23-year-old "bisexy" "marxist-leninist evil tankie".

Their whole tumblr is full of stupid ideas and posts that read like "I don't like drama" in that way that means they're the one constantly causing the drama, but it's also full of posts with like 3 notes, so I'm not sure why you bothered bringing this to me, but if you want my thoughts on their... uh... "analysis", okay, fine.

Here are a couple of representative bits:

i think their attitudes and (in my experience) lack of self reflection and refusal to admit that maybe theres a good reason other survivors don't really Love their self proclaimed coping mechanisms is Annoying At Best and upsetting and triggering at worst. --

i think more people SHOULD be asking themselves why they like what they like, and if what they're doing is unintentionally further normalizing these behaviors (because i do think this can happen in fiction!).

So they're a clone of every other 23-year-old moron on tumblr, basically.

As usual, this fool is assuming that others have thought less and know less, but all they're actually doing is revealing how new they are to the entire debate.

It's certainly true that some abusers hide in kink spaces going "If you call me out, you're kinkshaming" while sneakily trying to cross people's boundaries...

It's also true that the exact kind of stupidass rhetoric in this post is used by tons of other abusers to go "See, I'm One Of The Good Ones™. I couldn't be an abuser!"

None of that is the real issue here. The real issue is that plenty of people have thought about this and don't think that horny fanfic is normalizing anything. They've been debating the issue longer than this poster has been alive, and to assume they're n00bs who Just Haven't Thought is the height of arrogance.

The real issue is that it's not a persecution complex to point out how often antis go bother people who were minding their own business.

The real issue is that they say "Other survivors are allowed to not like your coping mechanism", but what this usually means is "Other survivors are allowed to make their feelings your problem."

Now, if they think having "proshipper" in a header or something is a sign of incipient wank, sure, block people preemptively. It's none of my business whom they block. DNIs remain idiotic, but that's their problem, not mine.

Just block them. They have nothing of worth to say anyway and you'll both be happier.

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noirineverysense · 9 months

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(About your proship/anti post) tbh it's kinda both sides that don't think critically, but I think the "anti" side is worse about it? Proshippers are usually obnoxious online, but some/most of their views are at least informed by research and studies, whereas a lot of (not all) antis say stuff like "if you put these barbie dolls in this specific situation you are automatically excusing and/or directly causing pedoincest abuse to happen, also if you are a survivor I'm gonna have a savior conplex and demand you find a 'better' coping mechanism. I know better because I'm 15 and take AP psych classes"

Both sides suck overall and the discourse is stupid, but I'd say the "viewing/creating problematic fictional work doesn't automatically brainwash you or define/express your morals or make you a bad person" makes a lot more sense than "liking problematic media makes you an abuser or complicit, and even if someone bypasses all warnings or invades a space they shouldn't be in, it's your fault if they react badly to it. Censor all stuff I dislike now"

Also most "proship" people wouldn't even be doing discourse in the first place, if they weren't getting harassed, doxxed, having to publicly lay out their trauma (if they have any), etc by the anti side over cartoons and video games and books. Abusing/harming real people over fictional content to (not even) prevent hypothetical abuse/harm is, objectively, worse than reacting to said abuse in ways that are annoying or obnoxious, especially when the typically more abusive side has such weird takes that...really don't involve much critical thinking At All, past maybe middle-school-level media literacy

I dont think its that simple tbh. I mean I occupy circles of tumblr that do bat hard against ideas that writing fiction about "problematic" subjects is not inherently harmful (which is true!) but I dont think that belief alone shows a level of "media literacy" whatever you think it means and I don't think implying that people who think differently to you just aren't as educated is really a useful way to engage in discourse. I also don't believe that proshippers who simply yell about intellectualism, critical thinking and media literacy actually do care about those things when someone is critical of their interests for a valid reason (e.g. misogyny).

I think there are probably a lot of proud antis who would say theyve been doxxed and harassed too. You use the example of a particularly combative 15 year old, meanwhile teenagers who do in fact express those views, which may not be ones they hold once they've grown a little, have been harassed by people on the internet who are much older who believe they are justified in their actions for the sake of preserving fandom.

You also imply that the views of proshippers aren't as harmful and simply react to being harassed but this untrue. Proud proshippers often harass people of colour for speaking out against fandom racism, viewing them as aggressive outsiders who disrespect the (white) culture in fandom spaces. The pro/anti divide isnt that simple bc a lot of people of colour get depicted as antis for criticising fandom behaviours which, in these proshippers minds, further justifies their abuse.

Overall, I think a lot of proshipper views don't start and end with writing any fiction is fine because its fiction (even tho thats the main view which i agree with), theres a lot of believing of the preservation of fandom culture on that side, which has always been one way of course, until the "puriteens" showed up which is silly and it just as easily leads to harassment as antis beliefs can do and can end up leading to misogynistic and racist beliefs too. Always believing you're the victim in a scenario (say you're a proshipper thinking you're up against a wave of antis) can often make you believe that any action you take is justified which can lead to you harassing and abusing people and claiming youre defending yourself before theyve harmed you. As long as you feel you're being harassed, as proshippers often claim they do over anything that disagrees with their views, its fine for you to attack. Proshippers can be just as abusive online as much as anyone can.

#i made that post in reaction to stumbling across a blog who said something similar to #criticising fandoms at all including over misogyny is misogynistic bc women are in fandoms #like lets be for real here #sorry if any of this sounded aggressive it wasnt intended that way and thank you for a polite ask #at least you and me can be nuance enjoyers

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leobebestevens · 10 months

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hey

hi guys, u can call me marie, and south park is my fav thing right now so i decided to delete my old tumblr (which was dedicated to writing fanfic about the outsiders) so i can start fresh.

a little bit about me:

marie is not my real name but i will not be sharing my real name for personal reasons. i'm pansexual, an istp, 8w7, and i'm into a lot of music but i like taylor swift and classic punk mainly. i have adhd, i like horror movies and reality shows. my main ships are style, creek, and clybe, but i'm down for pretty much any ship including rarepairs.

DNI list:

proshippers, homophobes/transphobes, TERFs, racists etc

im very silly if ur silly u should follow

my dms are open 4 anyone who wants to interact:)

#south park #stan marsh #kyle broflovski #stylesp #new blog

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neotriobrainrot-reborn · 5 months

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INTRODUCTION/ MASTERPOST (V4)

(hiya, reposting my masterpost because I'm a dumbass and had accidentally deleted the main post. And considering I changed the name of my ao3 and Twitter, I needed to make another one to fix it)

[ao3: CosmicEcosystem]

https://archiveofourown.org/users/CosmicEcosystem

[Twitter: @MetallicForest]

[Alt Account: @goldenphalloides(Tumblr) and @goldPhalloides (Twitter)]

[Ey: Important Update to this masterpost. I decided to make an alt account called @goldenphalloides to store all of my writing and art so that it doesn't get drowned out by Reblogs on my main. You can still send stuff like asks and requests here ofc! But I'll just be posting the stuff on the alt!]

This will change as I post more fics and make other changes, so anyone can check this at anytime and be caught up!

With that out of the way, sup! I decided to make a Masterpost that'll involve stuff I've written, drawn, and stuff I may plan on doing in the future

Most importantly, sorry for not writing anything in a while, I was burnt out, It's a work in progress, but I am trying to get back into writing, which is why I made this post in the first place

These are a list of the series/fandoms I'm interested in and will write for:

(Keep in mind that this entire post is subject to change as time goes on)

Fandoms:

Epithet Erased

In Stars and Time

Spiderverse Movies

Bug Fables

A Hat in Time

Little Witch Academia

Mario (in general: stuff like paper Mario, the Mario & Luigi RPGs, etc)

Sonic (In general)

Little Nightmares

Amphibia

The Owl House

Celeste

Zelda

The Mother Series (Mother 1/Earthbound 0, Earthbound/Mother 2, and Mother 3)

More to be added or possibly removed as time goes on

REQUESTS:

For anyone that had previously sent a request for something that I've never gotten too(I know there was at least 4 stuff I still haven't gotten to even months later), I do apologize for that. Life had hands I just wasn't ready for-

Regardless, I am now getting back into the groove of writing. My requests are open and I will take asks. Whether it's in the form of a writing request, or ya simply want a space to ramble: Ask, and the Golden Forest shall provide! You can send a request in any form, whether it be through an ask, a post (as long as you ping me), a submission, a DM, any method goes!

Though, you should keep a few things in mind:

I am free to deny requests & Asks. I'm just writing for fun, and to improve it to something I'm proud of, but mostly fun!

While I'm not opposed to writing romance, I do prefer Gen/Platonic stuff a lot more as I love platonic dynamics more than anything else! It's more of a personal preference than anything.

Please be patient. Believe it or not, I do have a life and some things will take me longer to get to than others, so please be patient and I'll get to ya!

Just practice basic courtesy

No NSFW.

Boundaries

My list of boundaries are pretty simple, but important

Proshippers & anyone who agrees with that nasty crap DNI (Do not interact) with me

If you're racist, homophobic, Transphobic, a bigot, or in any way and in any shape & form against the LGBTQIA+ community, DNI with me.

that's about it as far as it goes. Below here will be a list of stuff I've written categorized fandom to fandom. Each fic will have a link. a summery, and my thought process when writing it.

Before I show what I wrote, it's important to mention that I've only written stuff for Epithet Erased so far. I am branching out now into a variety of more stuff now, but this is just to let ya know so it doesn't look completely weird.

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Epithet Erased:

The Power of Friendship (and a gun)

https://archiveofourown.org/works/37548673/chapters/93719221

An old work I wrote about a year ago where the entire premise is if Phoenica had a real ass goddamn gun during her encounter with the Wolf. I know they don't exist in the epithet world, but it was a Crack fic I wrote in 1 hour for April fools

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Neo Flavored Cookies (726 words)

https://archiveofourown.org/works/38738505

A short one-shot about Molly, Trixie, and Phoenica trying to bake cookies. Pretty fun overall!

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Everything's (not) Okay - Broken Royalty part one (13k words)

https://archiveofourown.org/works/36271753/chapters/90421513

An unfinished fic involving an au where the Fleecities were abusive.

This was one of the first things I've written, and looking back on this, I kind of hate it. I don't really like a lot of the writing decisions I've made. A lot of it was ooc, even for an au, and a good amount of moments didn't feel too put together. However, I would be wrong if I said this fic had no value. It personally kickstarted my writing journey!

I do want to mention that I do and don't plan on finishing it. While the work is discontinued, I am working on something called "Re-Spored" which will basically involve rewrites of my old fics (like this, for example)

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Spotify Drabbles (100 words)

https://archiveofourown.org/works/43944868/chapters/110493883

Just a drabble challenge thing I did a while ago. I don't really plan on updating it past chapter 1.

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Amphibia Erased Neo - Part One (Over 20k words)

https://archiveofourown.org/works/37727497/chapters/94188754

An old fic I'm kind of fond for, although most of them are technically old lol.

The premise involves Molly, Phoenica, and Trixie getting warped to Amphibia in the Calamity Trio's place. As of now, it's discontinued as I plan on rewriting it for "Re-Spored". There's a lot I didn't like when looking back on this(like the characters feeling ooc since this was written before Prison of Plastic, not enough unique moments/scenes, etc), but I'm still fond of it since I had fun writing it!

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Hedgehog Heaven (481 words)

https://archiveofourown.org/works/46215691

Just an April fools fic I wrote about with Mushroom Girl (background character) being obsessed with hedgehogs. Nothing much, but it's a fun read

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Mushroom Girl Drabbles

https://archiveofourown.org/works/46809085/chapters/117902524

As the name says, it's a drabble list about a background character that earned the status of blorbo. I do plan to have 10 chapters of drabbles!

Spiderverse Movies (ITSV and ATSV)

[WIP: will be updated]

Bug Fables

[WIP: will be updated]

A Hat In Time

[WIP: will be updated]

Mario

[WIP: will be updated]

Sonic

[WIP: will be updated]

Little Nightmares

[WIP: will be updated]

Amphibia

Amphibia Erased Neo - Part One

https://archiveofourown.org/works/37727497/chapters/94188754

A fic which involves the Neo Trio(from Epithet Erased) going to Amphibia in the Calamity Trio's place. At no point does the Calamity trio show up, but I'd say it's fun to read! However, keep in mind it is discontinued. I plan on rewriting it as a part of "Re-Spored" with the chosen name being "Amphibia Neapolitan Flavor" (name is subject to change)

The Owl Ho2use

[N/A, will be updated]

Wordgirl

[N/A, will be updated, though I am only getting into the series most recently so this may take a bit more time than the others]

Celeste

[N/A, will be updated]

Zelda

[N/A, will be updated]

Mother Series

[N/A, will be updated]

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WIP (Work In Progress)

Fractured Bell

Fandom(s): Epithet Erased

The Respored (aka rewrite) version of "Everything's Not Okay - Broken Royalty Part One". For context, scroll up until you see "Everything's (Not) Okay"

I'll just say it up front, nothing about the story I had in mind for the original version of the fic justifies it even being more than one chapter, let alone 20 and a multi part thing. Barely anything about "Everything's (Not) Okay" made sense in my eyes, looking back at it. The original plot was faulty, everyone was ooc even for an au excluding maybe Rick, and if I ramble even more about how much I don't like one of my old fics I'll be on my death bed. Ironically, I'm still fond of it, but more In a "Aww, well aren't you an adorable piece of garbage" way.

So involving this rewrite to keep things short, will be only one chapter. The chapter will most likely be a long one-shot(possibly up to 20k words. At the bare minimum, it'll be around 7,500 words), but still a one-shot

Tldr: I'm turning Brokeon Royalty into a One-shot and naming it "Fractured Bell"

Amphibia: Neapolitan Flavor

Fandom(s): Epithet Erased & Amphibia

The respored (rewrite) of "Amphibia Erased Neo"

I kind of like the original version better than Broken Royalty, but it still had its problems. The chapters weren't really too unique, and while the frogs(like Sprig, Polly, etc) were in character, the human characters(Molly, Phoenica, Trixie) weren't.

The rewrite is meant to be a complete overhaul of the original fic, where it changes nearly everything from the original.

Garden of Fungi & Flowers

Fandom(s): Epithet Erased

Just a short One-shot involving how Mushroom Girl meets the blond girl with a flower in her hair, nothing much! Just full of fluff!

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That's basically it. Wouldn't call it a list, but it's there!

With everything out the way, hop into my ask box to your own comfort! Even a simple "hi" is pog! :D

Update #1: I've added Wordgirl, Celeste, Zelda, and the Mother Series to the fandoms I'll be writing for (Though keep in mind that I'm only getting into these recently so it may take me some time to gain enough knowledge of the characters before I start writing)

Update #2: I added a category called "Current WIP" where it details personal stuff I'm writing outside of asks/requests

Update #3: I Made a small post that briefly details what tags I use and what they mean. It'll be linked below this

#fungireborn.post #main masterpost #epithet erased #isat #in stars and time #spider man #bug fables #a hat in time #mario #sonic the hedgehog #little nightmares #amphibia #the owl house #little witch academia

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