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shadowslocked · 6 months
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Awkwardly sips drink because I actually haven’t vibed a lot with Q!Tubbo’s leadership the few times I’ve managed to catch him on Bads stream because he’ll lament about BM but then will also suddenly go “let’s kill them” but will also then lament killing them. He doesn’t want his team to have Bad Manners but also the way he tries to steer his team from that has been basically going “don’t do thaaaat” and hasn’t really given a substantial reason to be nicer (or at least one that holds weight)
Which is greatly interesting from a character perspective especially one in Purgatory. But I think some on the team just do not believe they’ll be given the same kindness if they had started acting nicer before, and that the other teams would take advantage to pull ahead or destroy Soulfire’s base. And with no reason or proof to combat that belief, Tubbos words about playing fairly ring hallow, nice sentiments that he’ll also denounce the minute they lose
Today really jut highlights that. Tubbo has very strong morals that clashes with some of his team members, and the way he wants to go about Purgatory and winning does not align with his teams. And I don’t think he’s given them a very strong reason to believe or trust in his way, and sadly some members have already dug and made themselves cozy in their graves
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bleue-flora · 1 month
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What's often interesting to me, is Dream spells it out in the finale and people often still don't get it, so I thought it'd be interesting to see what he was actually referencing here. To see where it all started.
[24:27] Tommy: “That first war, me and Tubbo versus you–how it should have ended–why’d you take it?” Dream: “Tommy, you ambushed me and killed me. You stole all my shit! You tried ambushing me in a little cave–you don’t remember that? I feel like you just–your memory is just–gone.”
So here is the ambush Dream is talking about, where Sapnap and Tommy basically decide to just kill Dream and then kept all of his shit. [Death 1]
He gets killed again when he tries to take back his stuff. [Death 2]
Tommy kills him for fun right after he respawns with nothing. [Death 3]
Then after Dream gets his stuff back (via our boy Punz) and he takes the discs to get Tommy to stop, he gives Tommy back his items. But unsatisfied, Tommy goes after Dream, gets one of his discs back and hides it in the little cave. Dream tries to find it, while Sapnap and Tommy try to stop him. They are unsuccessful until, Tubbo brings them axes and they sneak up and corner Dream in the little cave, ambushing and killing him. Once again, taking all of his shit, (including, yes, the other disc.) [Death 4]
[27:58] Tommy: “Think about that, we could’ve been friends but no because you have to figure out the reason you have to get–”  Dream: “Yeah we could’ve but you–you ruined the chance of that long ago. It was you.” Tommy: “I ruined it?” Dream: “You ruined it!”
And I don’t think it’s unfair for Dream to say that in the finale, because for Dream it’s this stream early on, these moments that started it all. It’s these instances of of Dream getting murdered and robbed and made fun of over and over. Him, trying to not just make peace for everyone, but also reclaim respect and peace for himself. It’s Tommy chasing after Dream when he has nothing to kill him and rub it in his face. It’s Dream, even after all of that, giving back their items. It’s these instances of violence taken too far to the point they clearly pissed Dream off and didn’t care or follow his very simple request of just giving an apology and his belongings back that shape my distaste for Tommy and sympathy for Dream. It’s these moments that I feel like are gone from Tommy’s and our memory that highlight a different story.
[28:34] Dream: “Yeah, we could have been friends if you weren’t a little shit.”
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dyketubbo · 4 months
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ik some people dont like considering the fact that minecraft is a game into their interpretation of lore but tbh i really like lore that acknowledges that their lives adhere to video game mechanics and thats a part of why i like that tubbo doesnt shy away from including his knowledge of game mechanics in his roleplay. it adds to his character and story and tubbos knowledge of how the game works directly translates to his character being extremely intelligent and skilled
and i think a big part of why people dont like acknowledging that tubbo isnt fail rping by using the game mechanics to his advantage is because they dont like admitting that hes intelligent. they dont like him being more than just the dumb bee boy. they dont like him being able to get a one up on their faves even though their faves are using game mechanics to their advantage too, hell because their faves are doing it too.
using game mechanics to his advantage isnt fail rp. being intelligent and skilled in his own way isnt fail rp. the admins keep him in line when they need to and when they dont they let him do his thing because no matter how many people get upset about it, tubbos knowledge of how the game works is fun and its cool to see.
a good roleplayer knows how to use the medium to their advantage. tubbo isnt failing rp or breaking the no metagaming rules in any way that actually ruins anyone elses enjoyment. hes just using the medium to his advantage. minecraft is a video game and there are literally plot points that depend on acknowledging that. tubbo is intelligent and on top of that he is a good roleplayer and its fine that he roleplays in a different way than some other ccs do because that makes him interesting. if you dont like it then theres a very easy solution: dont watch him
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ludaroace · 3 months
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insane over fit's last three streams and how far in denial he still is despite being told by multiple people with varying amounts of proof that tubbo is Dead and not dead .
he watches tubbo Die and people tell him tubbo is Dead but he can't be because it's tubbo and he's just being dramatic he always does things like this . him and richarlyson were just messing around - they do that all of the time
the next day he doesn't see anyone thats not an egg really . a couple of people for like five minutes at a time, but it's really just him and ramon and then dapper which is unusual but it happens . tubbo should be awake by now . dapper tells him tubbo is Dead and he can't be . it doesn't matter that he hasn't seen tubbo since he died because tubbo will come back
sunny is awake without tubbo and tells fit that tubbo is Dead and she wants to bring him cakes like ma lenay . that some creature thing called creation is here to protect sunny because tubbo is Dead and that she needs someone to hang out with/feed her and fit & ramon can do that ! but tubbo is not Dead because the islanders don't Die here for real (ignore dan and maxo and spreen . they were special cases . the islanders don't Die .) . in the letter he writes, he doesn't believe tubbo is Dead . he might have died, but he will come back because sunny misses him (the heavily implied he does too, but if he writes that then it's real)
phil is the first not child fit really gets to talk to after what happens and he tells him that tubbo is Dead but that he can come back and of course he can ? all they need to do is get this computer thing and his purpose data which makes no sense but it's tubbo and he doesn't always do things that make sense and honestly it wouldn't be the strangest thing tubbo has done to gate his respawn behind an item quest . hell, theres a small chance he has part of what he needs by complete coincidence
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sweetie-peaches · 2 months
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I’ll get off my soulfire posting in a minute but how different do you think it would be if they didn’t hold back, if tubbo loosened his hold on bads leash, if they weren’t afraid.
Speaking of that actually, I wonder how much tubbos duel with etolies in the beginning changed things. Idk how to describe it but I think loosing that fight made a big shift in his character (it was also such a cool moment, a fight in a desert. No one else around, honorable and equal) like it changed his perspective on things
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terezicaptor · 3 months
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do you think sunny immediately mentioned to fit and pac that tubbo hit (misclicked) her because she wanted to see if she would be safe on this new island. because she wanted to see if they would let that slide. it's been said, but the breakfast eggs give off the vibes of abused kids. do you think sunny was seeing if she'd be hurt again.
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sweet-potato-42 · 3 months
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hey imagine qtubbo is dead for real permanently and cctubbo just returns as creation or some other character
it would be so unexpected and could make for an interesting story
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piecanl · 24 days
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I have a fun qTubbo backstory idea but idk how well it would tie into pre-existing lore so bare with me.
So you guys know how the French arrived by a plane (crash)? And how Tubbo has a Special Interest in aviation? And how he's good with the create mode + has asked for the create extension which adds planes?
What if he was hired as a plane engineer for the company that had the French's plane as a part of their fleet (example: if the plane belonged to AirFrance, he'd be an AirFrance engineer).
He was a one of a kind, akin to a child prodigy, a miracle for his age (at the time maybe around 17-18), a genius. However he was the one responsible for the quality checks of the navigation tools on that specific flight. Unfortunately for him, he had missed something.
As the chicken appeared on the navigation screen, there were no verbal call outs by the system, leading to the pilot's writing it off as a stray cloud instead of an object creating a collision coarse.
This lead to one of the engines, the left engine, to collide with the chicken and cause a rapid descent. The pilots, suffering from fatigue, could not react fast enough. They made many wrong inputs, and in the end when they tried to land on a flat field, they crashed with the wall of Quesadilla island. All but 5 passengers perished in the crash.
Tubbo, after being discovered as the engineer behind the system's quality check-up, was arrested and thrown into prison, as we know it: the Ice bunker. It was a very shady prison, more akin to a testing ground/a laboratory full of lab rats than an actual prison.
The treatment of the inmates was brutal and inhumane, until they all for unknown reasons were frozen over, either as a cover-up or because they had served their purpose, it was unknown.
And with that, there lied the story of Tubbo. A previous child prodigy with a bright future to a prison inmate in a questionable prison.
(I want to mention, I know at one point the Qsmp members took on an expedition to retrieve the black box of the plane, however I cannot find a clip of that so I do not know what exactly happened in the planes cockpit. If someone has a clip or can recall what it said that would be appreciated, thank you!)
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prisonpodcast · 6 months
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death-himself · 6 months
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this feels like really a dumb question, but is it actually legal for mcyts to use minecraft skins made by other people?
like i don’t think philza or tubbo made their own main skins that they’re most known for, considering they’re just bleach and south park characters
so they’re basically using someone else’s art without paying them or crediting them for it, but also it feels really dumb for a minecraft skin to not be fair use right?
it feels like one of those situations where the creator of the skin could feasibly sue, but also why would they bother
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eternallovers65 · 8 months
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All my Twitter mutuals saying they would choose tallulah if they had to save three eggs, while I'm sitting there quietly thinking I would sacrifice tallulah in order to save some eggs
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patchesjam · 9 months
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thanks guys!
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I genuinely do love the prison arc and find it fascinating and I wish it was easier to find content and analysis about it that didn't veer to any of the Very Not Fun extremes
#my observation is that only people who enjoy both c!tommy and c!dream are capable of writing prison arc c!q#if they only like c!dream then q gets turned into a heartless hollow monster who exists only to wring out angst#if they only like c!tommy then the torture is either barely acknowledged or gets turned into a haha funny girlboss move#both of you are boring. where are the LAYERS.#and c!sam. guy has such a compelling fall from a well-intentioned and tender-hearted dude to somebody who will kill and torture so easily#i think it's very possible to acknowledge that both of them parallel c!dream by design without. like. drawing direct equations?#parallel lines don't intersect after all.#and acknowledging that c!dream is the victim of something incredibly unjust doesn't mean absolving his past injustices#it's just... the more time goes by the more weary i am of the ''who's worse than who'' competitive brand of analysis#i'm so much more interested in how these characters got to where they are. how they justify themselves. and how they will go forward.#and how everybody around them reacts! vibrations in the web and all of that. how does it affect people and what message do they take?#still holding out hope for c!sapnap to hear about the torture from c!q#let's see how much weight those making-amends letters really hold#and for c!sam to have a talk with c!tubbo. maybe muster up an apology. process what he did so he can move forward.#and for us to see literally anything about how c!dream is coping with whatever the fuck all of that was#my guy. my dude. WHY would you do that. there is nothing in the world that is worth it#he's hurt too many others and been hurt too badly himself. he needs the ends to be worth it but nothing ever will be.#they're all three slightly different flavors of horrible and they're all just so fucking tragic#anyway i think i've ranted long enough in these notes#i just needed to get this out somewhere#dsmp
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notsogoodangel · 1 year
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With Dream SMP finally being over I can finally not worry about being out of date and I can share my longest working project:
THE DREAM SMP DEATH COUNT
This document contains details of all canon deaths, such as who was killed by who, which method was used, and during what time period they died, as well as some extra fun facts that are death related.
I will put all the details under, but be warned, this is long and I do recommend the Google Document for reading.
DISCLAIMER: Some deaths happen outside the main plot, and some arcs last for long periods. The deaths aren’t in chronological order, the arcs are.
L’Manberg War-Elections: 5
Fundy 
Slain by George in the Final Control Room (from the front)
Tubbo
Slain by Sapnap in the Final Control Room (from the back)
Wilbur
Slain by Punz in the Final Control Room (from the back)
Tommy
Hit the ground too hard while trying to escape from Dream in the Final Control Room
Shot by Dream during a duel for independence
Manberg Era: 7
Tubbo
Went with a bang by Technoblade, under Schlatt’s order, during The Festival after being found out to be a spy
Schlatt 
Shot by Quackity in the White House, after an argument and Schlatt dared him
Died of a heart attack/stroke in the Van
Wilbur 
Shot by Punz while escaping from Schlatt’s order to banish them
Slain by Philza as a request after he blew up L’Manberg
Jack
Slain by Wilbur because Jack was in his way during a moment of frustration (yeah)
Tubbo’s presidency-Doomsday: 7
Karl: 
Hitting the ground during an explosion to frame Eret to get the independence of l Rapids, ordered by Quackity, triggered by George
Quackity
Slain by Technoblade after he escapes the Butcher Army’s attempted execution
Mexican Dream 
Slain by a Zombie while protecting Mamacita and Tommy
Shot by Dream while protecting a picture of his friends
Slain by Dream after Mexican Dream challenged him
Jack
Burnt by swimming in lava, caused by Tommy because he was messing with him
Slain by Tecnoblade during Doomsday
Post-Doomsday-The Final Vault: 12-???
Dream
Slain by Tommy with an ax on Dream’s Vault
Slain by Tommy with a sword on Dream’s Vault
Killed by Punz to test the limits of The Revival Book
Lazar (around this time)
Killed by Dream/Punz 3+ times to test the limits of The Revival Book
Vikkstar (around this time)
Killed by Dream/Punz 3+ times to test the limits of The Revival Book
Punz (around this time)
Killed by Dream 3+ times to test the limits of The Revival Book
Eggpire - Revivebur: 9
Antfrost
Slain by Puffy during the Red Banquet, as revenge for Foolish’s death
BBH/Skeepy 
Skeppy was pushed into lava by Bad after a fight
Killed by Skeppy to free him from the Egg. 
Foolish
Slain by Antfrost as a sacrifice to The Egg
Ponk 
Slain by Sam after he stole the (not-working) keys for the prison
Connor
Killed by Ranboo after he stole a beacon (yeah)
Ghostbur 
Died by Dream while in Pandora’s Vault
We don’t know what caused it, as Dream was hidden behind the lava. Although, we know he took a book from his inventory, and either beat him to death or used it and killed Ghostbur in the process.
Tommy
Hit the ground too hard while escaping Dream in Pandora’s Vault
Ranboo
Exploded while setting up the TNT in the prison
Las Nevadas- Wilbur’s Finale: 9
Charlie
Pushed into lava by Purpled during a conflict with Quackity
Ranboo
Exploded while saving Tubbo from Wilbur’s trap (Allegedly, only canon to Wilbur’s story)
Slain by Sam as a hostage during The Prison Escape 
Aimsey
Pushed down by Tubbo in anger
Sam
Slain by Dream after he promised to be freed from Pandora’s Vault
Fundy
Kill himself by jumping into the L’Manburg hole
Quackity
Killed by Charlie by pushing him (he dies before touching the ground)
Purpled
Killed by Charlie by pushing him
Connor
Killed by DreamXD
Egg Finale - The End: 9
Ponk
Bank explosion caused by Sam 
Sam
Succumb to a cough
CPK
Killed by Antfrost with an axe
Antfrost
Killed by BadBoyHalo (offscreen, most likely with an axe)
Hannah
Pushed into lava by Badboyhalo to protect Eryn
Eryn
Pushed into lava by Captain Puffy (possessed by the Egg)
BadBoyHalo/Skeppy
Killed by Captain Puffy/Egg with an axe as the final sacrifice
Dream
Killed by Tubbo in the prison
Tommy
Killed by Dream in the prison
Fun facts:
There are 58 total deaths!
Dream has the highest and most varied kill count, with at least 12 kills under his belt
The bloodiest event was the Egg Finale
Jack was killed by most of SBI: Tommy, Wil, and Techno
Connor and Schlatt are ghosts even though they only lost 2 lives on the server
The only person who has killed Tommy is Dream
The War of Independence has the least canon deaths
Antfrost’s, Mexican Dreams’s and Tommy’s second death, and Quackity’s first death are the only ones caused by a mutually agreed fight/duel. Everything else is murder intentional or accidental.
Schlatt’s and Sam’s final deaths are the only ones caused by body problems, not outsiders. Curiously both had 2 lives when it happened.  
MD is the only player to be canonically killed by a mob.
With BadBoyHalo and Skeppy sharing a death count, is actually very hard to tell how many lives they actually have left.
Even if C!Ranboo said that he only had one life when he died, he did die in canon 3 separate times.
Is shown that anyone revived has a single life, as Tommy was sent to purgatory when he was killed again. Jack is the exception.
12 have all three lives: George, Sapnap, Callahan, Alyssa, Eret, Niki, Hbomb, Puffy, Tina, Boomer, Jack, and Michael
8 have 2 lives: Karl, Foolish, Charlie, Aimsey, Purpled, SeaPeeKay, Hannah, and Eryn
11 have 1 life: Phil, Technoblade, Fundy, Tubbo, Wilbur, Tommy, Quackity, Dream, Punz, Antfrost, and Ponk
6 have none: Schlatt, Mexican Dream, Ranboo, Lazar, Vikkstar, and Connor
3 are Unknown: BBH, Skeppy, and Sam
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doodlebloo · 2 years
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Do you know where I can get more info on RatSMP? I keep seeing people mention it but I’m not sure what it is lol. I hope you’re doing well btw!
Yes anon hello! RatSMP is a new SMP with lots of cool people on it (including Tubbo!) The concept is that the members are all little rat people, each of them even have their own character art!
@/POWCreations on Twitter is the official RatSMP Twitter, you can find a really cool trailer as well as the cast announcement + fun facts abt everyone's rat there! Plus there's already lots of cool Fanart :)
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freezethebeez · 1 year
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bit weird, but how are funeral practices different in the catalyst world? Because I feel like there’s an untapped angst potential in vampires turning their dead loved ones into soup. What’s more of an expression of grief than lettting your beloved’s dying cells become your cells, to convert a part of them to you and let them live on in all the parts of you forever? To one last time feel the warmth and flesh of your dead friend or lover before their bones are buried?
dead dove: do not eat? more like dead partner: turn him into soup but specifically the soup that your mother made and the one that he liked the most and have the most insane mental breakdown of all time while you eat it ^_^
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