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trashbatistrash · 1 year
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orionsangel86 · 5 years
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“I Think It’s Time For Me To Move On”
...And Other Things That Have Destroyed Me This Weekend...
So there is this common trope within love stories which generally happens at the end of the second act in which everything goes wrong and we all think that the lovers are doomed to failure. Its pretty much standard in every Jane Austen novel, every romantic film every made, every single bloody love story. Go ahead, name one. I guarantee you the break up moment is there.
Within the epic love story of Dean and Cas, there have been many break up moments, and all have had their emotionally devastating impact on the relationship and the show...
But THIS was a different level. 
(For a nice summary of Destiel break up moments and understanding of this trope, @tinkdw​ wrote about it here.)
I didn’t think that there would be another moment within Dean and Cas’s relationship that could hit me this hard. The mixtape in 12x19, the wrapping of Cas’s body in 13x01, and the return of Cas in 13x05 are moments that I consider to be the very top of the scale in making this pairing undeniably romantic. Moments that pushed it beyond a platonic interpretation. These three moments have been the things I cling to when the show has otherwise made me doubt any conclusion to the DeanCas story, and since there hasn’t been another one of those moments since 13x05, until now I have been somewhat nervous that the story was dropped, or being forced back behind a platonic screen. 
15x03 has ripped that screen away. 
Emotional meta under cut...
This entire episode was an emotion fuelled dramatic roller-coaster that killed off three characters including our beloved witch queen in a scene that almost stole the show and practically canonised the SamWitch ship. Rowena’s death should have been by far the most torturous moment for viewers to endure, and it was extremely torturous and had me sobbing on a plane 3 hours into a 7 hour flight. That incredibly heartfelt moment between Sam and Rowena will probably go down as one of the top tear-jerking moments on this show. It was tragic in the best way - the way Supernatural is famous for.
But lets not gloss over the fact that in an episode where THAT should have been the climax, where THAT should have been the emotional highlight and end point, instead we get a further MORE dramatic stand off between Dean and Cas that pulled focus and ripped all of our hearts out just as violently as poor Ketch in the first act (a very clever and smug piece of meta foreshadowing there Mr Berens).
On a meta level, this is HUGE as a writing choice because they MUST know how this looks. This was the climax of the third episode of the finale season. The way Supernatural has always structured itself since Carver era is that the first three mytharc episodes of each season establish the direction of the story and set the foundations for the character level focal points and dramatic key notes to come. 
That the writers have chosen to end the foundation episodes with a DeanCas break up moment that was more dramatic than a Spanish Telenovela has just stunned me and left me reeling because I just can’t see how else this can go. This break up scene absolutely DEMANDS a huge reconciliation of the sort that will be part of the A plot of the season - the FINAL SEASON. Guys. Part of the reason I have been so quiet and so disillusioned with the show during late season 13 and season 14 was because they pushed any Destiel plot into non existent territory - it became kinda irrelevant and Dean and Cas just acted like friends (homoerotic friends yes, and sometimes like an old married couple, but it was mostly played as an afterthought imo), so for this to suddenly be brought to the forefront of the emotional story again is excellent news for us. 
The thing is, like with those huge moments I listed above, the break up scene is basically undeniably romantic when you break it down to its components:
1. It’s only Dean and Cas. 
Once again we have another scene of high stake emotions that excludes Sam. In a platonic reading of the show, it makes zero sense for there to be such a hugely disjointed relationship between Cas and Dean and Cas and Sam given he has known them both for so long now that if they were all “just friends” then surely Sam would also feel the impact of Cas’s choices as heavily as Dean. In a platonic reading, Dean comes across as an asshole, Sam comes across as being weirdly uncaring about his friend of 10 years, and Cas comes across as not even bothering to get Sam’s opinion before leaving. A romantic reading makes sense because quite literally THIS IS A ROMANTIC BREAK UP.
2. The words spoken. 
“Well I don’t think there is anything left to say.”
“I think it’s time for me to move on”
From Cas’s perspective at least, name one time in a piece of media where such language has been used for a platonic breakup sincerely? There have been heartfelt break up songs that use these exact words. (I should know I’ve spent the last 24 hours listening to them all).
That last line in particular is so heavy. It’s the last line of the episode and nothing about it is platonic. This is relationship terminology my dudes. “I need to move on, and get over you.” This is Cas’s bloody Adele song. My heart breaks for him, but if I was his sassy and fabulous best girlfriend right now I’d be sitting him down, sipping a cocktail, flipping my hair and telling him “Babe, you’re too good for him. Good Riddance. Let’s go out, have some cocktails, something pink and fruity. No dive bars for us darling. I’ll take you to Heaven... the fun one in London.”
In all seriousness though, from Cas’s perspective, this was him admitting defeat and giving up the fight for love. How anyone can possibly say Cas isn’t in love with Dean after this, well I just don’t know what show you are watching. This is the face of a heartbroken man who has just accepted that his love is unrequited. 
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3. The many faces of Dean Winchester
On the other end of the scale, Dean was mostly silent after his poisonous words “And why does that something always seem to be you?”
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Forgive the terrible gif quality I’ve no time for fancy gif work!
Look at his face here. He knows what he said was fucked up and he immediately regrets it. The way he swallows around that regret and then turns away.
and after Cas says that devastating final line and walks away? We get THIS reaction from him:
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The jaw clench as he looks down. The sorrow on his face as he realises he has well and truly fucked this up. LOOK
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Finally, he looks up, makes himself look up and watch Cas leave. If that isn’t the face of a broken man I dunno what to tell you. Anyone who thinks Dean is totally heartless and uncaring right now needs to reassess because this is NOT the face of someone uncaring. This is the face of someone who has just lost everything. Again. 
4. The FUCKING MUSIC
Seriously. The sweeping heavy drama of the low strings that come in right after Dean says that horrid line, that carry the weight of the look of horror and heartbreak on Cas’s face as they amplify the emotion there. As they blend seamlessly into the slow and subtle version of the Winchester family theme behind Cas’s heartbreaking speech and Dean’s stubborn stoic face hiding a multitude of emotion, until the violin dominates as Cas says “I think it’s time for me to move on” and the Winchester Theme swells to its climax, ripping all our hearts out just like poor Ketch as Dean watches Cas walk out of his life surrounded by darkness. 
I MEAN.
A friend on Twitter reminded us all of this point about the importance of this theme via @justanotheridijiton​ here which is essentially:
“The Winchester theme is not simply an aural marker to let the audience know when and how Sam and Dean love each other (any Supernatural fan knows that is the baseline of their relationship), but to provide narrative information, especially when the image and dialogue are incomplete or inconsistent with the true situation...  Seasoned fans will recognize the theme and its history of being paired with images indicating deep emotional bonding and a desire to do the right thing by the Winchester code. Here we trust our ears over our eyes to reveal the truth.”
So here is yet another key indicator that any surface read that this is actually an ending between Dean and Cas and that Dean really is just an angry asshole is utter bullshit. 
Honestly, this was PAINFUL, but it was painful in the best way. It was 13x01 levels of pain, but this time it was Cas choosing to walk away which makes all the difference. Dean’s greatest fear isn’t his loved ones dying on him after all, but of his loved ones choosing to leave him. This was exactly the kick up the ass Dean needs in order to win Cas back, classic love trope style. 
Hence my excitement at what is to come. Yes we won’t see Cas again until 15x06, but in the meantime I fully expect a good helping of angst and wallowing from a depressed Dean who has to deal with the fact that he has just lost the love of his life and it is all his fault. That he just pushed away the one person who promised they would always stay by his side. That has got to hurt. 
So yeah, this episode emotionally destroyed me, and I’ve only really covered the primary reason, let alone all my feels over SamWitch, Rowena’s death, Belphegor’s taunting of Cas over his deepest fears and then having to suffer through smiting a creature wearing the face of his son until his body was nothing but a burnt corpse... I wonder if Bobo had a bet going in the office over how much he could hurt us all? He was certainly enjoying scrolling through the Supernatural tag on Twitter and liking everyone’s reaction tweets including some brilliant Destiel related ones. I do love Bobo. Our Angst Goblin King. 
If anyone had asked me a few weeks ago what my thoughts were on the chances of getting explicit canon Destiel by series end, I would have said somewhere in the realms of 30-40%, considering it a battle of wills between DabbBerens and CW studio execs who I still feel are against it in general. I would have considered everything that happened after 13x06 as the writers getting a big NO on Destiel from the network and therefore having to pull back on any Destiel related plot points (purely my own speculation on BTS matters of course).
Now I am wondering if Dabb kept fighting the network? If he managed to wear them down into begrudging acceptance? I’m currently up to around an 80% chance of textual canon DeanCas if we continue on this path. If Dean is clearly shown to be mourning and hating himself over Cas next episode, and if this DeanCas dramatic plot line continues to be a focal point of the emotional story arcs... well...
I’m side eyeing 15x07 a lot right now. Only in my wildest dreams would I think that they might actually introduce an old boyfriend for Dean in a “coming out” episode, but the placement, timing, and potential is all there and I’m kind of once again donning the clown mask because I’m just in awe at everything that they are doing. I guess we’ll find out soon enough. In the meantime, I’m gonna paint my face in red and white and wear my rainbow wig and listen to break up songs on Spotify whilst trying to shove my heart back into my chest where Bobo Beren’s gleefully ripped it out with his hands like the demonic angst goblin he is. Wish me luck, I’m not sure I’m gonna get through this season with my emotions intact.
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ghostliied · 6 years
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frailfire?
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My Opinion on;
Character in general: Honestly, when I first started to RP Red so long ago, I came to realise that Fire, is in fact, NOT Red at all. Like I had the general understanding that or Red and Fire are not the same thing. but for me, it was more on the idea that??? they could be?? in the same universe?? like that for me was something that I found really hard. IDK why? I jut dissociated them so much that it got to the point where I simply didn’t like Fire? Another reason for me disliking the muse was because I just didn’t like him as a character concept. IDK. I guess there were some that caused him to be an “alternate” or “UNDERDOG”  version of Red and I was like no please stop.. um?? no?? Like idk how to explain. Fire and Red are two completely different people, and most people were like well Red is nonexistent to Fire. while others just thought that Red and Fire came from different generations and wouldn’t have kNOWN of each other.  That and like… the personalities were so vastly different imo that I just couldn’t comprehend Fire as a muse???? Like there were so many things happening that I just shut myself out from considering Fire. I was SO (and still am at times) dissociated with Fire because I just didn’t have any good reason to attempt any interaction. Like I am sorry to say that, but it’s the truth and I hate it, but I genuinely always have a hard time trying to like a Fire muse because people aren’t vary forward or clear about wtf is happening. Like to me sometimes I feel like Fire is a canonised/glorified self-insert. and I’m like??? please help me understand this boi, is he a canon character? is he an OC? like what is his story line? where tf does he fit in life and in general.
How they play them: So you know How I just took the time to literally question everything about Fire above? yea well allow me to say that while I still question him, I still think what YOU have for Fire makes me appreciate the fact that you took the time to sit down with him and be like “yo i wanna write Fire today.” Like?? Idk if that makes sense but no really, I’m terrible with reading the interactions, but I LOVE reading up on his bio a lot, it makes me genuinely happy and proud that you wrote it because it’s clearly written in a way where i’m like, wow this is actually something I can follow? And for somebody who was able to hold the path steady and show me the way, I’m very appreciative for it. Because yes, please I want to read more about Fire’s history and I would actually love to write with Fire now that I have SOME understanding of him. granted, I’m still confused, but at least I am not confused to all hell and you’ve written Fire in an understandable way for me. I thank you.
The Mun: Yo, the mun?? I love the mun lol. Ye buddy, I do actually appreciate you lol. I mean, it’s also been how long since we last talked and I mean even remotely saw once another on the dash?? oh WAIT, pulling up my Red blog now, I can see that… you commented on this post here… AND IM LAUGHING SO HARD. YES HELLO WELCOME TO ANGST LAND. and THEN, looking back on your tag on my moon blog… and…. WAIT IM SCREAMING WTF THIS AU RIGHT HERE HOW COME THIS WAS NEVER A THING OMFG SO HELP ME I WILL LOG BACK ONTO MOON FOR THIS AU PLEASE. I know its not for Fire but like…??? also??? I love the fact that we haven’t really interacted or talked much ooc but??? like??? idk??? jsladhfdfs honestly I think I need to be reminded on what exactly we have done like RP wise because I didn’t think we spoke much to begin with and??? shfd while I really did appreciate you, we also never really got the chance to like… FORMALLY sit down and talk. It’s sad but I’m now happy cause now we are talking and interacting again and I never realised that you wanted to do something with me like alghfdbsl omg /)~(\ If I had known then I would have probably come in your ims to bother you 24/7. You just seem like such a chill and sweet friend and im??? honestly??? I really do enjoy your presence though. Its why I write a lot for you because i want to show you how much I appreciate the fact that you took the time to write your muses and whatnot. Like hello, you have really good ideas. So well thought out. You’re so funny too and super lax and chill and im??? I only wish I knew you better friend!! I hope you know that you’re more than welcome to come and msg me anytime. :) like stahp being so mysterious lolol its a bit of a wonky ‘do I approach you or should i wait for you to approach me’ and we have this mutual thing going on but idk how to describe it in words. But yes. Many much good and quality and all of the things.
Do I:
RP with them: yea I have yet to make a reply for Calem. OPPPS. I have bad timekeeping. I SWEAR i have it drafts i am so so SO sorry its taking me forever to do a simple reply. Life is saying fuk yu unfortunatel.y
Want to RP with them:  OMG FLAILS MY ARMS BACK IN THE GENERAL DIRECTION ABOVE TO SHOW THAT LONG WRITTEN AU POST I LINKED. *coughs* yes.
What is my;
Overall Opinion: yes, good, den/den. Much amaze. Such Quality. I’m love. I’m also really happy that we are actually talking, I’m sorry I’ve been a shy bean. but yea, honestly, at this point, I’d follow you on any blog of mine. yus. huggles you tightly.
**Note: Mun’s answer are all to be completely honest. Don’t send url if you don’t want brutal honesty
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icehaloed · 4 years
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UR
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❝   unfortunately for everybody i will keep doing whatever i want.
𝐛𝐚𝐬𝐢𝐜𝐬 !
FULL NAME.     uria  ‘ ur ’  frida feldt    NICKNAME / ALIAS.     ur. while this is derived from her first name, it is also the sole name she introduces herself by; her last name is a vestige of a past she has long left behind. also: saint ur. GENDER.     female HEIGHT.     159 cm BIRTHDAY.     12th of june X741 BIOLOGICAL AGE.     34 (post-canon) CHRONOLOGICAL AGE.     51 (post-canon) ZODIAC.     gemini LANGUAGES.     fiorean, ancient fiorean, icebergian, passing knowledge of other languages
𝐩𝐡𝐲𝐬𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐥 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐜𝐬 !
HAIR COLOR.    dark brown EYE COLOR.       dark blue SKIN TONE.       pale; although the sunlight reflects on the snow of her chosen home, she has never been the type to tan. BODY TYPE.     she seems very petite, almost fragile — especially when one knows her history. however, this is a dangerously wrong conclusion. while not as toned as others, she is fit. and was strong enough to carry one student beneath each arm when they were younger. ACCENT.       faintly northern, but the actually outstanding aspect of her speech is that she tends to speak . . . stilted, often sounding as if she was sounding her words out in her head before speaking. this is to avoid ‘outdated’ expressions. DOMINANT HAND.     ambidextrous POSTURE.       relaxed, nonthreatening, the latter always amplified by how harmless she looks. she neither draws attention, nor does she command it in any way. SCARS.       a crisscross of scars on her right leg, giving it a ‘cracked’ appearance TATTOOS.       none BIRTHMARKS.         a mole on her left shoulder blade MOST NOTICEABLE FEATURE(S).          traces of puzzlement on her face wherever she goes, a light tendency to purchase ‘outdated’ clothes etc
𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐥𝐝𝐡𝐨𝐨𝐝 !
PLACE OF BIRTH.     dulcamara, fiore HOMETOWN.     she currently lives not far from iris village, a small village in the northern area of fiore MANNER OF BIRTH.     announcing herself almost two months early, she was a welcome interruption as her mother had grown tired of her conversation partner. quickly, healers and doctors alike were called and before the next day dawned, the last child of elfrida and albert feldt was born. for a short time, the infant required medical attention, but this ceased after a few weeks --- the child was set on catching up to her older siblings and though she would forever be the shortest, she would succeed in other areas. FIRST WORDS.     mine --- screeched out with as much indignation a tiny child can muster. for further context: her older sister had pretended to take away her favoured toy and ur was not having any of this SIBLINGS.     two brothers, one sister: anders, frans and adina PARENTS.     elfrida and albert feldt PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT.     relatively high. they wanted the best for their children and though it was difficult to accept, they eventually came to the decision that despite their best attempts, the kindest thing they could do for their youngest daughter was to leave her be, to make room in the estate for her studies of magic, to hire tutors and buy ancient tomes. they clapped when ur, in her teen years, produced dainty flowers spun from ice, not quite understanding what they were witnessing  ( history in the making )  but appreciative of their child's dedication to her craft. neither parent was a mage, so they did not have the best perspective on the dangers that accompany magic, but although some minor incidents in her early years could have been prevented, had her parents been stricter, ur never faulted them. ur left home when she was eighteen, not because of arguments or other resentments, but because she had reached the limits of how much she could learn in dulcamara. she dropped her last name, cut her first name down to its first two letters --- and started to write three letters to her family each year  ( unless she got so busy that she forgot ).
𝐚𝐝𝐮𝐥𝐭 𝐥𝐢𝐟𝐞 !
OCCUPATION.       mage  /  instructor  /  researcher CURRENT RESIDENCE.       she lives in the middle of nowhere. usually, this would not cause much of a stir — everything in northern fiore is the middle of nowhere as many would argue — but even for those standards, the area were she lives is very deserted. the nearest settlement is iris village, but few would know of the village's existence. CLOSE FRIENDS.       yeah RELATIONSHIP STATUS.      committed to her relationship, no further definitions needed FINANCIAL STATUS.      she has known both better and worse financial situations, though admittedly: it borders closer to worse these days. it has been difficult to withdraw any money from her old account as it has been frozen for almost twenty years now. it is not a priority just now, but . . . she would really like to be able not to count her money before she enters the store. RELIGIOUS STATUS.     oh dear. having come back from a fate much like death means that ur definitely does not discard the possibility of higher powers. to deny it now would feel a lot like arguing against cold hard facts. still --- organised religion was never her cup of tea, and this has not changed when she has been canonised as a saint after heroically vanquishing deliora. VICES.       independence. while this is usually a positively connoted trait, ur has proven her ability to take it somewhere where it becomes a problem. sometimes, it is better to ask for help instead of trying to figure everything out alone.
𝐬𝐞𝐱 & 𝐫𝐨𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞 !
SEXUAL ORIENTATION.       heterosexual ROMANTIC ORIENTATION.       heteroromantic LOVE LANGUAGE.         her primary love language is quality time. having grown up in a household where everything material existed in abundance,  she has learnt the value of time that one takes for another early on. for her, this perhaps the one thing she knows no money can buy, making a cup of tea emptied in quiet companionship more valuable than any jewellery in the world. RELATIONSHIP TENDENCIES.       she is loyal, sometimes to points where it is no longer healthy. she is supportive and, in turn, likes to be supported. being able to joke with someone else is a definite plus, too. after her last experiences with ' getting outside help ',  she only feels validated in her independence.
𝐦𝐢𝐬𝐜𝐞𝐥𝐥𝐚𝐧𝐞𝐨𝐮𝐬 !
CHARACTER’S THEME SONG.       hercules, sara bareilles HOBBIES TO PASS TIME.       reading, hiking, baking, embroidery  ( her needlework varies between pretty and ‘was made by an unmotivated toddler’ depending on her mood ) MENTAL ILLNESSES.       depression PHYSICAL ILLNESSES.       phantom pain in her leg, migraine LEFT OR RIGHT BRAINED.     left PHOBIAS.     none she is aware of SELF CONFIDENCE LEVEL.       9. while it is elevated due to the knowledge that she has created a magic that will outlast her, it is somewhat diminished whenever she asks herself if she could have done more to prevent ultear’s fate. VULNERABILITIES.     emotionally? the guilt she feels for many, many things. the wound caused by willingly surrendering her life for the sake of others. physically? the part of her leg that she lost; while it is ‘back’  (so to speak)  it does not quite feel right.
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elden-12 · 5 years
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Avengers Endgame...
Lots of spoilers and thoughts under here...
I loved almost everything about that!
Most characters were handled remarkably well and the time travel crossovers with the past stories were brilliant!
Cap got all the best stuff. His fight with himself was amazing and the scene where he was in the next room from Peggy and couldn’t go to her was heart wrenching. I loved that he got his happy ending even if it makes no sense whatsoever.
Also I love that they finally did tie in to the TV side of Marvel however briefly with Jarvis (from Agent Carter) getting a cameo! I’m totally taking it that this means Agent Carter season one is actual MCU canon (season two can piss off though TBH).
Thor was handled so terribly except in the conversation with his mother. What a come down. Ragnarok ends with him losing his eye and all the symbolism about it making him more like Odin as future ruler and proves he doesn’t need his hammer to be powerful. Then we get infinity War and they decide he needs a fake eye and a new weapon, then we get this movie and he’s become a sad, fat, pathetic loser who has pretty much given up on life. Way to fuck his entire storyline guys! But that scene with his mother was excellent so at least he wasn’t a total loss.
Tony on the other hand... I liked his scene with his dad but other than that he was appalling. I was crying when he died but that was purely because I was sad about Pepper, Rhodey, Spidey and his daughter losing him. I was Glad he was gone.
I mean, even at the start of this film he’s still pretending he’s perfect and was right in Civil War and if Cap had sucked the governments cock hard enough and surrendered his free will everything would’ve worked out perfectly well and so Thanos winning was all just Steve’s fault. Even though the government was still trying to arrest Steve and co for trying to solve the world’s problems in the last movie.
What a colossally self righteous, arrogant, condescending, fuckwitted dickhead!
I know I’m being controversial here but good riddance, I’m glad he’s gone. Which is a shame as I used to like his movies but after Civil War and everything that followed it he was a completely different and utterly sickening character who I couldn’t stand to have survived.
Sad to see Black Widow in particular go. Is her movie still happening and it’s just going to be set earlier, or was it never really being made and just announced to fake us into thinking she’d survive?
The end credits seemed to imply this was the last we’d see of all six original Avengers. While that makes sense for Iron Man and Black Widow (being dead) and Cap (being elderly and way past his heroing days) what about the others?
Hawkeye is rumoured to be getting a TV series, but looks like hes going back to being retired. Hulk has his massive injuries from the glove but no real reason why he shouldn’t still be around and Thor seems to have joined the Guardians so surely must be coming back.
Also, they made a big thing of how they needed to not change history but literally killed off Thanos in the era of the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie?!
And their jaunt to the first avengers movie messed up even more. Cap found out Bucky was alive before the Winter Soldier! And Loki escaped with the Tesseract!
And now Steve got to live a normal life with Peggy, contradicting her own series in the same movie they canonised it in!
How do they expect us to just ignore all that?
I loved the movie but in hindsight now, just posting hours later they really messed a lot of shit up?!
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