#I dunno it's interesting to think about

[secondbeatsongs]

re: the post I just made, I thought this would be fun:

#personal #tumblr #polls #I want this to spread #because I'm so curious like #there are blogs that I think have a lot of followers #because I love them #but my love for them doesn't make them popular with people who are not me #I have no idea how many followers they have #and I don't want to know #and I want to see like. what people think the average is #I dunno it's interesting to think about

[yellowocaballero]

Miguel is Fine, Actually (Being Spider-Man's Just Toxic As Hell)

Before I watched ATSV I said that I would defend my man Miguel O'Hara's actions no matter what, because he's always valid and I support women's wrongs. I was joking, and I did not actually expect to start defending him on Tumblr.edu. But I'm seeing a lot of commentary that's super reductive, so I do want to bring up another perspective on his character.

Miguel wasn't acting against the spirit of Spider-Man, or what being Spider-Man means. Miguel isn't meant to represent the antithesis of Spider-Man. Miles is the antithesis of Spider-Man. Miguel represents Spider-Man taken to its extreme.

Think about Miguel's actions from his perspective. If you were a hero who genuinely, legitimately, 100%, no doubt about it, believed that somebody is going to make a selfish decision that will destroy an entire universe and put the entire multiverse at severe risk - if you had an over-burdened sense of responsibility and believed in doing the right thing no matter what - you would also chase down the kid and put him in baby jail to try and prevent it. He believed that he was saving the multiverse, and that Miles was putting it in danger for selfish reasons. Which is completely unforgivable to him, because selfishness is what he hates the most. And then he goes completely out of pocket and starts beefing with a 15yo lmfaooo he's such a dick.

But why did Miguel believe that? Why did he believe that Miles choosing himself and his own happiness over the well-being of others was the worst possible thing? Why did he believe that tragedy was inevitable in their lives, and that without tragedy Spider-Man can't exist?

Because he's Spider-Man.

Peter Parker was once a fifteen year old who chose his own happiness over protecting others. It was the greatest regret of his life and he never forgave himself. Peter's ethos means that he will put himself last every time, and that he will sacrifice anything and everything in his life - his relationships, his health, his future - to protecting and helping others. Peter dropped out of college because it interfered with Spider-Man. He destroyed his own future for Spider-Man. He ruins friendships and romantic relationships because Spider-Man was more important. If Peter ever tries to protect himself and his own happiness, then he's a bad person.

That is intrinsic to Peter. Peter would not be Peter without it. A story that is not defined by Peter's unhappiness is not a Spider-Man story. If Peter doesn't make himself miserable, then he's just not Peter.

That is a Spider-Man story: that not only is tragedy inevitable, that if you don't allow yourself to be defined by your tragedy then you're a bad person. If you don't suffer, then you're a bad person. If you ever put anything above Spider-Man, then you're killing Uncle Ben all over again. Miguel isn't the only one that believes this - as we saw, every Spider-Man buys into what he's saying. There's no Spider-Man without these beliefs.

Miguel attempted to find his own happiness, and he was punished in the most extreme way. He got Uncle Ben'd x10000. He tried to be happy, and it literally destroyed his entire universe. It's the Spider-narrative taken to the extreme. Of course Miguel believes all of this. Of course he believes this so firmly. He's Spider-Man. That's his story. And the one time Miguel tried to fight against that story, he was punished. And like any Spider-Man, he'll slavishly obey that narrative no matter the evil it creates and perpetuates. Because if he doesn't, the narrative will punish him. The narrative will always punish him. It's a Spider-Man story.

I don't think the universal constant between Spider-Mans, the thing that makes them Spider-Man, is tragedy. I think it's the fact that they never forgive themselves. And Miguel is what that viewpoint creates. He doesn't believe this things because he's an awful, mean person. He believes them because he's a hero. He's a good person who hates himself.

Across the Spider-verse isn't really a Spider-Man story. It's a story about Spider-Man stories. Miguel's right: if this was a Spider-Man story, then Miles acting selfishly really would destroy the universe. But Miles' story isn't interested in punishing him. It pushes back against Peter's narrative that unhappiness is inevitable and that you have to suffer to be a good person. It says that sometimes we do the right thing from love and not fear, and that Peter's way of thinking is ultimately super toxic and unhappy. ITSV was about Miles deciding that he didn't need to be Peter Parker, that all he needed to be was Miles, and ATSV is about how being Peter Parker isn't such a good thing. Miguel shows that. Whatever toxic and unhealthy beliefs he holds - they're the exact same beliefs that any Spider-Man holds. He's a dick, but I don't think he's any more awful a person than Peter is.

TL;DR: Miguel isn't a bad person, he just has Spider-Man brainrot.

#across the spider-verse #atsv #atsv spoilers #across the spider-verse spoilers #across the spiderverse #across the spider verse #miguel o'hara #atsv meta #source: i recognized an embarassing amount of those cameos #im also seeing a lot of ppl make a lot of assumptions about what miguel was injecting and why #we dunno guys! im not gonna suppose anything #I just think that Miguel and Miles are great foils #and that what makes them interesting as foils #is the fact that they're both good people who want to do the right thing #miguel shows how that gets twisted #to the point where you beef with a 15yo sometimes which is still so funny #im a big spidey 2099 fan #which I love bc it is NOTHING like spiderman and yet it's such a good spiderman story #but talking about comics migs is useless bc he has 0 in common with atsv migs #but there is a lot of VERY cool stuff to say about how #the sm2099 comic has nothing to do with spiderman at all whatsoever extremely pointedly #but its still a wonderful spiderman story that finds its own way #tbh it was kind of a breath of fresh air to read a spider-man story that wasn't about spider-man for once #and that was just about miguel #anyway stan women's wrongs #miguel o hara #miguel ohara #my writing

[front-facing-pokemon]

#trapinch #i knew this one was gonna be good. no eyes. no mouth. just trapinch #pov. you are about to be bitten. or something like that. i think trapinch has a pretty interesting typing but it's mostly just because #i like ground- and rock-types that aren't. made out of rocks or whatever. i dunno if it actually has a dragon typing until it hits vibrava #okay it doesn't it's just a ground-type. but ground/dragon is interesting. i'm always surprised vibrava isn't a bug-type but it is still #interesting. imo. bug/dragon. 4x weakness to ice my belovèd #want the same downside as all the dragon/flying types for no reason? ground/dragon is your typing! garchomp typing i think #technically garchomp is dragon/ground as opposed to ground/dragon but no one pays attention to the order of types #except for Me… in my pmd ttrpg i talked about yesterday to me and like two weeks ago to you guys #anyway i'm hungry so i'm gonna go queue up vibrava. their eyes are a bit messed up so forgive e

[cienie-isengardu]

"She [Mother] would applaud my actions" << & >>" Mother would be so proud"

MK1 Smoke vs Sub Zero (Bi-Han) << & >> MK11 Sub Zero (Kuai Liang) vs Noob Saibot

#mortal kombat #bi han #noob saibot #sub zero #kuai liang #smoke #tomas vrbada #mortal kombat spoilers #BI HAN IS SUCH A MAMA'S BOY AND I DON'T SAY THAT AS AN INSULT #just this is second game bi han is talking about mom #and as a noob he mentioned his and jacqui's mom #and considering how mothers are often dead in mk i find it interesting #but also bi han's original backstory was about how his mom tried save him and little kuai liang from their father #a sub zero himself who wanted take them back to china for lin kuei training #and she was never seen again with the youngest daughter #which could mean she was killed #and bi han rarely has anything good to say about father or grandfather (previous game(s)) #while kuai liang is always all about (grand)father? #and dunno if this is on purpose done by creators #but the original backstory always makes me think that bi han could be old enough to know the father is responsible for mother's death #or her disappearing and dunno with the mother dead in mk1 who also was said to be fighter #maybe this is why bi han couldn't care any less about his father? #and sure noob is sarcastic (I think) when both brothers said how they are disappointed by each other but damn bi han the remark about mom #was a surprise #bring sub zero bros' mom to the story i have question so much questions

[jaggedpeak]

anyone else think about these two and get really really really sad

#warrior cats #wc #ravenpaw #dustpelt #this is lazy im sorryyyyy just needed to get back into the groove of digital drawing after a week lol #stole the dialogue for this from this is us thank you this is us i miss you this is us <3 might actually animate it at some point #anyway. been thinking about their relationship a lot. #ik its not really acknowledged theyre brothers outside of bluestar's se but dust's tougher bullyish personality as a kid with raven's #anxiety is really interesting to think about... ik most of raven's stuff is from tiger but yknow. sibling relationships can be rough #especially if they never get a chance to heal or have any parental intervention #in my head this convo's after the bloodclan battle cause that wouldve been like. one of their first real chances to catch up #I DUNNO!!! i wanna do more with this Thats what i know #my art #2 cents

[esshades]

I finally finished my watchthrough of the 2 MDZS shows and here are my thoughts from my notes

#basically i am saying that im glad i started with untamed bc boy would i have been lost if i started with donghua #now the perfect adaptation would have the animation format with the length of untamed. or maybe a little shorter #saw someone on reddit say mdzs gave almost nothing to the wangxian shippers and wdym?? theyre literally gay married and have a child #...i think im so used to censorship my standards are on the ground #also. the cool thing with actors is that you can tell them apart with their faces. for the donghua you tell them apart with their bangs #was very shocked to learn the yin iron was cql-only lol. dunno how to feel about that #the untamed special effects are really something you have to power through. but it was worth it #also apparently wen qing was gonna be wwx's love interest??? holy fuck insane #finally and most importantly: the yiling laozu fucks #mdzs #cql #the untamed #mo dao zu shi #grandmaster of demonic cultivation #mxtx #mo xiang tong xiu

[stop-breaking-my-heart-telltale]

favourite twdg villain?

I'm a fond enjoyer of the St. John's as villains. I don't know if they're my favorite just because they're only in one episode, but I love the concept of this family almost immediately jumping into cannibalism toward the start of the outbreak, dealing in human flesh to bandits, and casually feeding this group their friend's legs.

Like... what the hell was this family like before the outbreak that all three of them were like, "Hey now listen... nothing should go to waste, the dead are eating people so why shouldn't we? We gotta survive and in our defense, we only target those who were gonna die anyway... like y'all."

Dude, Mark was shot in this shoulder with an arrow. He wasn't going to die from that injury. It's so fucked that these seemingly friendly people took the group into their home and then fed them Mark's legs.

If we take the idea that everyone is infected and have the capacity within themselves to become walkers, to become monsters, then the St. John's were infected long before the outbreak, y'know? Not literally, but something was wrong with them and the outbreak just further spread that infection and changed them.

But again, are they my favorite? I dunno if I can say that since I have a lot more appreciation for Lily now. Yeah, some of her writing gets a little wonky in ep3 of TFS when she goes on her monologues and shit, but y'know what? I'm into it.

You have to remember who we're talking about and the fact that she's the antagonist; Lily isn't some anti-hero in TFS who secretly has a heart of gold that's brought to light because she reunited with Clementine... she's a fucked up woman who did fucked up things in the name of survival. She's full of rot now. She sees kidnapping children and turning them into soldiers to protect her home as a means to an end, but she doesn't actually give a shit about the people she's taking. They aren't people to her, they're as the episode title suggests, toys in her game. The only one she sees as a person is Clementine, and while that makes her hesitate at first, she sees Clementine's a prize to bring back.

She remembers what happened in S1; her father had a heart attack and as she tried to save him, Kenny smashed his face in with a saltlick and then expected Lily to just stand up and help him get back to his family because "he did what he had to, he made the hard choice." Yes, Larry was a piece of shit. No one liked him, and you can even question Lily on him and she'll tell you that he has a lot of pain. Yes, it makes him an asshole, but he's still her dad and he's all she has. I mean... the simplification is daddy issues, but in all seriousness, I don't doubt for a second that many of Lily's issues stem from Larry being a shitty father to her.

Then everyone thought she was losing it when she insisted there was a traitor in the group, which she was right about, but she was unstable. She was unwell, but how do you help someone like that when you don't have training to go about it? Then Lily ends up killing either Carley or Doug and the group turns on her, and either she's left behind or she steals the van and runs away.

Then we don't know what the hell happened to her until we see her again in TFS, but like... a lone woman with decay festering inside of her joining the delta? Exposing her to their methods? I mean, what else did she have to lose? She had nothing, she lost everything, and she has a lot of issues. Survival is easy when you're numb, when you don't care about the individual; they're all just cogs churning to make the system run, and if a piece doesn't cooperate, you get rid of it and find a new one.

Plus I think there's something to say about Lily not wanting to be perceived as weak again. That whole display she put on in the cells? Telling the story of what happened to Minerva and Sophie? I get the criticism that it feels like Lily did a 180 between episodes but like... yeah dude, because it's a performance. It's not just her and Clementine anymore. It's a display of power and authority. She's playing the part and thriving in it as she ensures everyone else is terrified of her.

But then when Clementine and AJ get the upper hand? Again, she's not afraid to play up the pleading to earn enough sympathy to spare her- hell, just to let their guard down enough to strike and get the upper hand again. I mean, she's got nothing else to lose, right? If she doesn't go for it, she'll be killed and sure, you can kill her anyway but at least she tried.

Honestly, I look at Lily in TFS and still see that scared little girl playing the tough bitch, just like Carley said in S1. It's just now escalated from "tough bitch" to a downright vile person. She's so... lost? I suppose? Lost within herself and the monstrous means she's taken to survive.

I get the criticisms of how she was used in TFS, but for me, it's like when people complain about Minerva not getting the redemption arc she supposedly should've gotten, y'know? There's no saving her. Lily was never on our side, and there was no getting her on our side. She wasn't ever going to redeem herself. Even if you spare her and she drifts away on her raft, can someone like her actually find redemption? Or will she just find another group that'll feed into her rot?

Truly, I say let her be horrid. Let her be the piece of shit villain with a few fleeting moments of humanity. Let her drown in the blood she's spilled.

#asks #twdg lily #twdg andy st john #twdg danny st john #twdg brenda st john #twdg clementine #twdg minerva #twdg mark #twdg larry #twdg kenny #i know i used to complain about lily in tfs a lot years ago but past cj complained about everything tbh sksksks #now i'm just like babe lily's interesting as shit like not every villain needs a redemption arc just because you think they're hot #and don't wanna feel bad or because you want her to be like she was in s1 when she was sympathetic like... it's been years #that's like being mad that clementine isn't the same person as she was in s1... the difference is we got to see clementine grow #but what happened to lily is a mystery... but that doesn't mean she didn't change especially for the worst #i dunno sometimes i look at lady antagonists in media and then look at people's reactions and i'm like.......... hmmmm #c'mon now- if kenny came back in tfs the same exact way then y'all would be foaming at the mouth insisting he's complex #and morally grey and he's just really sad about his family dying and really he's a sad widdle meow meow but also the best villain #who should be spared because he always cared about clementine and aj and he's just traumatized and sad and amazing unlike OTHERS #like.................... okay sure mmhmmmm #side note but the worst thing about kenny is the fact that he IS a brilliantly written character but his stans tend to just be the worst #anyway i like lily she's a great tfs antagonist like i recognize there are some weak spots and i wish she has more of a presence in ep4 #if she lived but y'know... gotta make room for minerva being the final bridge boss so... yeah

[orchideae]

A little unpopular opinion on something I've seen happen more commonly throughout November/December and wanted to address quickly for my own blog: Please never hesitate to reblog anything from me. You see me reblogging a sentence starter list that you like? Go for it and reblog it from me directly without any pressure on you whatsoever to send anything into me before doing so. You like a GIF-set or musing that I reblogged? Nab it from me, it'll brighten my day to see that we share an interest in something. I like to see interaction between me and anyone who follows me. I like to see that little activity notification light up.

Honestly, it simply reminds me that we're all part of a community, and more specifically, a fandom that consists of characters and nations that we all came to love and then share that amongst ourselves. And honestly, seeing a reblog happen shortly after me but it's from the source, creates (in my opinion) an odd sense of chosen disconnect between people that can feel awkward, it's as if we're walking on eggshells as to not rub each other the wrong way. But what's wrong about going 'Hey, I see what you reblogged, I like it too!', it even gives you potential common ground to start a conversation. We're a community, and I don't know about you, but I like seeing people interact with each other beyond merely threads and notes. It's the little things that matter, after all.

#[ psa. ] seeing isn't always believing. and if you can't trust your eyes; you certainly can't trust rumors. #[ i feel like this whole 'reblog karma' rule has scared people so much into stopping with behavior that... ] #[ i think was healthy. interaction; no matter how small; makes it so much easier and comfortable for people to... ] #[ interact because you almost become 'familiar faces' through these tiny little asks. ] #[ the amount of times i've entered dms kindly/respectfully after someone's reblogged something from me-- ] #[ and the person and i proceeded to just gush about the reblogged fanart in question. or something similar. ] #[ which then makes any further ooc interaction so much easier and nicer-- the initial anxiety people may face is lessened. ] #[ because you've already found common ground. ] #[ like i don't mean to force anyone to reblog from me-- but it's like it's so obvious so often when people... ] #[ see something from you but then reblog it from the source. i dunno if it's just me but it feels odd. ] #[ it feels as if someone thinks reblogging from me would step on my toes or rub me the wrong way and i don't see?? ] #[ why that's a thing? it's so silly. reblog from me; feel welcome to do so. we all love this fandom. we all love our characters. ] #[ and each others' characters. it's why we interact; right? ] #[ any way. hi-- yes. i just mean never feel odd to reblog from me. if anything i encourage it. ] #[ i'll smile and nod at you in my activity; and you'll also pique my interest to be like 'hey! good taste 💙 ] #[ any way; i hope people are having a good weekend! ]

[sysig]

Bitter breakup rivalry (Patreon)

#Doodles #Wander Over Yonder #Emperor Awesome #Commander Peepers #I dunno lol I just wanted to draw Awesome being pathetic and insulting Peepers and maybe immediately regretting it :) #As much as I think their relationship dynamic could go very well I also think it could go very poorly >:3c They have a lot of potential! #Awesome trying to get too close too fast to manipulate him before he's proven a useful asset would basically be a death sentence hehe #Especially if he tried to flex about it - he definitely has physical might over Peepers but honestly I think that'd just piss him off furthe #Like ''You think you can just sling your weight around and intimidate me? Hah! Who do you think I work for?'' #Even with the equivalent of a peashooter I think Peepers could take him on ♪ I mean heck he beat the Potted Plant with just his hat #He's very resourceful! Out of necessity but hey it just means he's practiced! I think he could MacGyver his way out of most confrontations #Plus y'know - Awesome is already kinda pathetic haha ♪ He gets a bruised /ego/ and he goes home what would a smack to his face do #That said he was there for the Battle Royale - I think he's aware of his intimidation factor :) Intimidation is also charisma! Haha #I think a fight between them would be interesting Especially if they brought feelings into it but even just a slugout haha #Awesome's really fun to pose I definitely would've drawn more of him being dramatic if I hadn't run out of room #But I mean so is Peepers! They're so fun to draw ahh <3 Look at his shoe/knee contact! Flat foot on the ground! I'm so pleased! #Only took a very cartoony style to finally get me to work on contact points haha ♪

[shikai-the-storyteller]

Hmm

#i talk #I want to be excited about this but it kinda also feels... I dunno #as much as we love joking about a beach episode it just doesn't feel like a super appropriate time for a big server-wide event #(assuming this is an event since you know. ''Festival'' and all that) #I'm sure things are still being worked on behind the scenes and yeah a lot of that stuff takes time #and I know they did that whole previous stream to give an excuse for the eggs being MIA #and I do still want to see creators interacting and stuff and doing cultural exchanges and all that since that's the point of the server #But I dunno. as long as the admin thing is in limbo I'm not really sure how to feel about event stuff #discourse #I'm interested in hearing other people's thoughts on this #negative #ish #I also just straight up don't think any members will log in either #except for like Bad maybe and one or two others but that's it #qsmp talk #Sorry for the repost Tumblr keeps breaking and leaving reblogs on

[metanarrates]

I'm interested to know what "protagonist" is defined as here. usually a protagonist is a character who gets major plot focus and whose viewpoint drives the bulk of narrative involving them. (im speaking in basic terms here; the definition of "protagonist" is one that can be endlessly litigated.) a character can be the protagonist of a subplot without appearing again in the main narrative, but...

it's interesting to me that, before now and after the events of this arc, kim dokja rarely speaks or thinks about jang hayoung at all. this is really weird, considering that she is a protagonist in his favorite novel. he thinks WAY more about characters like lee jihye and lee hyunsung than he ever does about her. granted, part of this is due to their membership in his party, but I would argue that even kim namwoon seems to be more emotionally significant to kim dokja, and that guy has been dead since the start of orv. what's the reason for this?

I can think of two:

1. "protagonist" is defined very loosely here. twsa, from kim dokja's descriptions, sounds very oddly structured as a novel. jang hayoung is considered a protagonist by the novel because she stars in her own subplot and because she represents one of the three ways to survive. however, she might not get a ton of screen time in twsa itself.

2. kim dokja is just fucking weird about jhy. since he had a hand in creating her character, he has almost shameful emotions towards her. maybe he's embarrassed by how she reflects his youthful cringiness, similar to how he feels about knw. or maybe she reflects something else about him that he doesn't like to see. we'll get back to this later in my reread, since I'll have a much better grasp on how he views her by then. regardless of his reasoning, though, and regardless of how much screentime she has in twsa, the end result is that kdj doesn't like to think about her.

i suspect it's a mix of both, but I can't say for sure. this is going to be something I'll keep mulling over during this arc. it is an arc i don't remember very well, for the record, so I'm interested to see what happens here.

(as an aside, it is REALLY interesting for me to think about how twsa is written and structured. there's not a ton of info given on how it actually functioned as a novel, since most of the story is filtered through kdj's perception of it. i wonder what kind of arcs it had and how character focus was handled...)

#nic's great orv reread #i LOVE plumbing the depths of a fictional text we only know about through a reader. its an interesting exercise to think about for sure #i dunno if i would want to Read twsa but im so fascinated by how kdj percieves it versus how it actually might have been

[amaraudermind]

Has anyone considered the hilarity of a reverse robins au wherein a young Steph hits the streets as spoiler wanting to kill her dad. And then, years later, a certain young boy keeps sneaking out intent on killing his parents' murderer.

I think rr Steph should call him her mini me just for that alone

#stephanie brown #dick grayson #reverse robins #dunno. been thinking about the potential of parallels when reversing the robins lately #i used to really hate the concept of reverse robins but then i read a really good one and saw another really inspired one #and now i keep thinking about it. #as long as there's actual interesting changes going on i am quite quite interested it turns out. #i am also just thinking about a teenaged damian and matt(who i would have be very similar in age and also menaces) #stumbling upon a like. ten. maybe twelve at most. year old spoiler who is attempting to foil her dad's plans and also possibly kill him mb #it would be SO funny #and i think tim would actually join the family LATER if anything. i don't know i feel like if i reversed it i wouldn't want to change #who dies? like. the change would be in how the family reacts because of it happening at such a different point in the timeline rather than #it being different people at similar times and therefore. basically the same thing but now with someone else's trauma to work through #you know #anyway

[front-facing-pokemon]

#kricketune #ahhh. the good ol' DEEELELELELELELE WOOOOOOOOP #the One pokémon cry that Everyone can remember. i can remember a few off the top of my head but this one is very iconic #aside from like. pikachu and eevee getting anime cries in the games for a small bit there for some reason. glad they're back to normal #shit i think that's all i know about this pokémon. i mean. they have a big mustache..! i dunno why but they do #i guess it's to be more. of the uh. violinist aesthetic?? do all violinists have big mustaches. i'd believe it #they also go from having pred eyes to having prey eyes which is interesting. idk bro this is definitely a pokémon

[sodiumvaporss]

just got to the part in trk where ronan's showing declan the little light orb maker thing that explodes in his face and how it says "he realised how much declan had missed by growing up neither dreamer nor dreamt. this had never been his home. the lynches had never tried to make it declan's home," AND I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT OF THESE LINES!!! LIKE OKAY HE LOVES HIS BROTHERS BUT DOES HE EVER RESENT BEING A LYNCH WHERE HE WILL ALWAYS BE LAST, BECAUSE HES NOT A RONAN, THE FAVOURITE AND DREAMER OR MATTHEW, SPECIAL AND GOLDEN???

(from burning vs drowning - mccafferty)

#talk #trc #trk spoilers #declan lynch #im thinkng about like. what wouldve happened if declan found nialls body instead #which really that changes a lot of things like. everything about ronan would shift slightly to the left. #interesting how like all the burdens fell on declan EXCEPT that particular one yk #like. from a young(ish) age i think he was involved in nialls like. darker side of dreaming #with the crime and the bad people n stuff #like hrng #theres a huge possibility that im missing a lot simply because i havent read the dreamer trilogy #but hrnghghgdg dunno why its such a hard time to get motivation up for that one #it might just be because im not that interested in ronan DJZKLJL #hes cool but he was kind of my least favourite #MAN DJKZLFL

[marsupials-of-mars]

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#gotta say. #most of the hate towards hazbin hotel seems wicked reactionary and just an excuse to dunk on the younger generation's cringe interests #like ive done my research and most of what i found leads me to conclude that i wouldnt personally be friends with vivziepop #but thats no reason not to enjoy a popular undoubtedly flawed but fun and colorful and gorgeous thing that brings me joy. #i feel scared to talk about hazbin now like i felt scared to talk about steven universe or undertale or mlp in middle school. #not because i think im doing something bad #but because i know just saying the words is a calling card for people who want a reason to be mad and make jokes. #fucking hate posts that are just “i like hazbin hotel” “<haha isnt that guy lame and cringe” under the guise of #i dunno. morality policing? is this not the same website that says cringe culture is dead and unapologetically likes “problematic” anime #and bbc shows and medical dramas and supernatural #like whats the actual problem? give me a list #otherwise im assuming you would have bullied me in middle school and id hide my sketchbook when you walked by.

[apocalypticwafflekitten]

Okay so, I was listening to ‘tolerate it’ by Taylor Swift, and I know that it’s a song about a romantic relationship, but I just cannot stop thinking about either Heimdall or Thor and their relationship to Odin.

He’s sees both of them more as tools than people and y’know, Thor comes to realize that during his fight with Kratos, (and I think deep down he’s known that for a long time) but maybe Heimdall doesn’t realize it until everything’s over - until Ragnarök has passed and it hits him all at once.

Maybe Heimdall finds Thor and, with the most broken look on his face, asks ‘He was just using me the whole time?’

And Thor doesn’t need a name to know what Heimdall means. He’s got this thousand-yard stare and he just looks so empty. Like he has nothing left in him. So Thor takes a minute, pushes aside any snide comment he might have thought of, and has a genuine conversation with Heimdall about it.

They still might not be super close, but I think they could come together to shed the weight of their father and become better people in the wake of his misdeeds. They can rise above what he did to them - what he taught them and how he raised them. They might even come to respect one another and help each other in their respective efforts to be better.

I dunno. I think there’s room for them to grow as brothers and to see each other for who they become rather than who Odin raised them to be.

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