#ABOUT | THE ISLE OF THE LOST.

[fortitudinem]

I'm honestly surprised that Frollo never started a cult in the Isle.

I also wanted to say that I adore your worldbuilding. It's so creative and manages to make sense given what little Descendants tells us.

Hi! Thank you for your kind words! I try very hard to make it work!

As for Frollo starting a cult, he doesn't need a cult when he has the power of Christianity on his side. Which is to say, he definitely still preached and held mass and church sermons and things for Isle residents and he also openly hated on any magical beings or those he saw as lesser. You might call that a cult. He for sure had a following, probably a pretty dedicated one. and he probably tried to burn a witch or two in his time. but the witches outnumber him so he learned to shut up.

#ANSWERED ASK. #about | the isle of the lost.

[itsalwaysforyou]

WHAT???????

#i am. actually floored #the thing about the books. is that the characterisation is either a little too kid-friendly or just absolutely unhinged #why the hell is this boy carrying around two daggers and an axe. i feel insane #can anyone hear me #me so scared of writing jay ooc & in coke melissa with a steel chair #what a fucking bit of characterisation #now i need to rewatch descendants knowing that jay has two daggers and an axe on him at all times #descendants #descendants isle of the lost #jay son of jafar

[tragicmoth]

recently my switch lite broke for good which means that lost isle is no longer. thankfully, i have a second switch!! so i was able to visit the dream address and get some never-before-posted shots for you all to enjoy :) here’s the DA for anyone who wants to visit: DA-6129-9967-8466 if you chose to visit please feel free to take photos as long as you tag me in them!!!

#i wanted to go on a rant about how much this island saved my life but who care #mine #lost isle #acnh #animal crossing #animal crossing new horizons #animal crossing blog #animal crossing screenshots #animal crossing inspo #dream address #acnh dream address #animal crossing dream address

[gaylos-lobos]

actually before i go to sleep

giving Luz the same kinda shot composition here directly after finding out what happened to King and Eda (and telling Camila that she hasn’t changed her mind about returning back to Gravesfield after rescuing the two) while dressed as Azura (someone she admires) to when Philip arrived to the isles in search and rescue for Caleb (<- if getting there was accidentally or not does not matter) while dressed in his attire or at least clothes that resembles them, truly driving home the point of how similar the two of them are and how they really are just mirrors of the other

#especially the returning back to Gravsfield line is really important to me. both of them wanted to return to a home that isn’t home because #their actual home is the people/person they want to rescue. #how they really are just the other to the left and that’s exactly how Luz and Camila escape the tragedy that Philip and Caleb couldn’t #theres more to say about this but im tiered and need to go to sleep. #but also how the collector is playing out stories they’ve been told and quit literally using the isles and it’s inhabitants to do so #the way Luz in the beginning and Philip project onto it. anyways stopping here #cause i could be talking about the Luz. Collector. Philip parallels all night. which would lead into the once with King. Eda. Caleb so on #and so forth. considering how many characters parallel each other in different ways. #like the quadrant of Caleb and Luz and Luz and Philip and Philip and Camila and Camila and Caleb once. #(<- was just about to elaborate in tags but I should just word that all out properly and make an actual post instead (well another one)) #i lost my point im going to sleep. gn #philly cheese steak #meta tag #toh #the owl house #luz noceda #philip wittebane #emperor belos

[lionfission]

Printmaking misadventures part 2. Getting this one to line up consistently has been... an ordeal. Doesn't help that it's on 12x18" unmounted linoleum 😭

Original + process pics under the cut!

#the owl house #toh #toh titan #toh fanart #the boiling isles #my art #while looking for refs I was kinda surprised to see fewer maps of the boiling isles than I was expecting #had to do a lot of guesswork based on screencaps + backgrounds + concept art I could find #lots of little details got lost but as a first attempt on lino I'm happy with how it turned out!! #took about 3ish days to design on procreate and 6 more to carve and print... which is honestly crazy fast for my slow ass lol

[kanzakurawrites]

Hi I really like your descendants fic and your posts, so I have a question. If descendants was a pg16 show that actually did it's worldbuilding what elements would you ADD, which elements would you remove and what would you expand on?

Oooh, this is an interesting question. I'm sorry it took so long to get this answered! (and apologizing in advance for any rambling that takes place)

First things first, I'd want the show to switch between the Isle and Auradon. I am PERFECTLY fine with the main cast staying the main characters from the first three films. So it would be eye-opening, and good for the characters, for the show to have switched between the Auradonians, the Core Four, and the Sea Three.

I'd also want at LEAST the entire first episode, preferably first two or three, to have the Core Four on the Isle. Working with THEIR gang. So we can see what it is like for them to live on the Isle, what its like for them to be around their parents, and how they interact with others, before going straight to Auradon.

Now, Isle-related things.

I definitely know I'd want to add more elements of abuse on the Isle. It's implied in the movies, but they also seem to backtrack at times. (Dizzy's "wicked step-grandmother" comment, and then suddenly portraying Lady Tremaine as caring - the Vk's running to the Isle to see their parents.) It would need to be shown that the Isle is a HORRIBLE place. Physical, emotional.... and other forms of abuse. These things HAPPEN, and they are going to happen on the Isle.

As much as I hate to say it, there is definitely teen pregnancy on the Isle. There's also a lot of death for ALL ages.

Remember Mal's comment about gang activity? Let's see it. Show us the gangs, the fights, the rules, the alliances. Show us the politics on the Isle, and how these are CHILDREN fighting for their lives. Which also means injuries and scars.

There are all sorts of HORRIBLE crimes that people get sent to jail for (I really don't want to type the words since it makes me sick to my stomach), and those people are ON. THE. ISLE. It's not just the villains from the fairy tales on the Isle, its all the criminals as well. There's a lot of reasons the VK's have gangs, and keeping each other safe is one of them.

With that said, not all the VK's are going to be good either. Some of them will end up bad in the end. Just like there are going to be bad people in Auradon.

And then with the barrier, are seasons a thing on the Isle or does the dome mean that the temperature stays relatively the same? Are the summers scorching and winters freezing and dirty, given the pollution over the Isle? Things can't even grow!

How DID the Isle get approved? Was it better in the beginning? Did they just not think that villains could have children? These are questions that need to be answered, because even without purposefully trying to make it dark, the things we know about the Isle are sickening to think about. Nothing can grow, food is always rotten, everything is crumbling, and there is horrible pollution.

What is illness like on the Isle? It can't be good, it would run rampant. I want to see how it's dealt with.

And finally, how does the Isle affect the magical people there? Witches could probably be okay being cut off from magic, but fairies? They are inherently magical. Magic is apart of them. Same goes with Ursula, Morgana, Hades (though he's probably not affected at all). Trolls, dwarves (there have to be some), goblins, pixies, etc. Any on the isle, and their children, how are they affected here? Does Uma feel a loss in her chest when she's near the sea? Does Mal mourn her horns and wings? (and will she ever get any?) Is it painful? Do they get sick when they're in Auradon and finally around all this magic? Because you can't just... get rid of magic. It's going to be there.

Auradon Things:

I would really want to expand on how Auradon came to be. Along with the, likely, war that happened when rounding up the villains cause there's no way that was peaceful.

Politics. I want the politics. How do all these kingdoms work? What political parties are there? How are views on the Isle handled?

Arranged-Marriages are a thing. Not everyone does it, but I feel like we can all agree that some people (*cough*Leah*cough*) believe that they are superior to "Falling in love." I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Audrey and Ben had an arranged marriage.

Abuse. It's not just a thing on the Isle, but it's in Auradon as well, just in a different way. While there's a lot more physical abuse on the Isle, there's verbal and emotional in Auradon. Leah and, though I hate saying it, Beast are perfect examples. Leah constantly puts Audrey down, she makes her feel inferior. Beast made his sixteen year old High King... I'm sure I could find more examples for him but I think that's a pretty big thing right there.

Another thing to expand on is the equality issue in Auradon. The "sidekicks" got the short end of the deal, even though Ben tried to make it better, as the dwarves and animals weren't being PAID. They just worked all the time for the Royals. Magical people have seemed to be pushed aside, like Beast wants them all gone. Jane couldn't even train her with her magic! And she's Fairy Godmother's daughter! The three good fairies and other fairies from Aurora's kingdom are actively having to not use magic. How do Kingdom's like Corona (Ruby has the 70ft hair, so some semblance of magic had to be passed down. Magic is also canonical in Tangled the Series, along with things like DRAGONS), Arendalle, Agrabah, etc. function?

How do things with the gods play out? What is there contract with Auradon, cause I am NOT convinced that they would just let these mortals walk all over them forever. It's one of my biggest issues with Hades on the Isle as well, and why I think there has to be some bigger reason he's on the Isle. (Whether its them waiting for Beast's term to be over, or perhaps something the Fates said)

I'd want to add in how religions play out in Auradon, because all these stories come from different places. There are characters who are canonically religious in their films, good and bad. It's not something you can just erase.

How did Auradon as a whole react when the VK's came over? Were there protests? Was Ben under a lot of heat, or was Beast for letting Ben do this? How were the VK's treated at first? Not everyone was going to be welcoming. Who stood beside Ben, who was neutral, and who went against him?

Then with relationships. Honestly, I really like Mal and Ben, but I'd want to see them develop a relationship. Maybe mention their dreams and hint to the true loves, have them work through the love spell issue, show them dealing with cultural differences. Give them a realistic relationship with more depth.

With Evie, show the expectations her mother would have put on her. Did she have flings? Was she pushed to try to be with any "higher up" Isle male?

Harry and Uma... yeah their together. With the rating up, there is no reason to pretend they aren't or only give small hints. We get to have this relationship and yeah, you know, they are just Harry and Uma.

And when the VKs do come to Auradon, who are their foster parents? Because they have to have someone, right? How is that handled? How are they taken care of?

Then with the abuse they went through, show us the hints. Flinching when there are yells, or when someone goes to touch them. Maybe blank looks, disassociation, just not knowing how to handle relationships! Friendship or with adults! How they see themselves. That stuff does a number on you, even after years. And I understand why Disney didn't go deeply into this, but it also shouldn't just be brushed away. Acknowledging it could have helped just explain some of the VK's actions. (Such as Mal in the third movie, wanting to please the ultimately parental figures around her.)

I really don't think there's much about Descendants that I'd remove, I'd just want to expand on the world and make it... darker, I guess. More realistic vs. sunshine and roses.

(Also. Adding seasons. Seasons EXIST Disney.)

#disney descendants #descendants #my asks #my answers #mal bertha #ben florian #isle of the lost #auradon #i know i rambled #i just have feelings on this #i probably could have come up with more #but i really just need to sit down and sort through some of this #the isle #specifically #it could just #it is so dark if you think about it

[candy-pants]

hey so beyond the isle of the lost comes out tomorrow and i have no way of buying the barnes and noble edition and i'm being so brave about it

#*narrator voice* she was not being brave about it #amanda said she would send me pictures of the bonus chapter tho #beyond the isle of the lost

[hexenwrites]

Mal: How are we supposed to put a tracker the size of a penny on Carlos without him noticing? Diego: Hey, Carlos, I bet you 5 bucks that you can't swallow this penny. Carlos: *takes and swallows tracker* Pay up, loser. Mal: ...

#mal #diego de vil #carlos de vil #disney descendants #isle of the lost #isle of the lost incorrect quotes #incorrect quotes #no one passes up a bet they know they can win on the isle #carlos just doesn't think about it anymore #he's to competitive for that. #mal doesn't understand how she likes the idiot #diego loves his cousin #cousins #best friends #isle life #isle chaos #it's a bet #hexenwrites

[magicalgames]

isle of the leftovers

I've been thinking recently about how a lot of people think the VK's would be a lot skinnier on the isle than they are realistically, but there is a lot of food waste in our world/food thrown out. And what if this also was happening in Auradon?

So, what if the reason that the isle kids aren't really malnourished or unhealthily skinny is because a lot of food and drinks in Auradon are thrown out, it's just that if the food/drink was thrown out before it became stale or spoiled - it was by the time it got to the isle.

#disney descendants #descendants #is this a 'the isle isn't completely horrible?' headcanon? #maybe #or maybe it's auradon #I like this idea #isle of the lost #the isle of the lost #isle of the leftovers #I think the same could be true about clothes in Auradon #but I also like the idea of vk's sewing clothes from materials from the barges. #my isle lore

[dragoneyes618]

Carlos Madrigal

I read a theory, (by @silverloreley) that went through possible options for the VKs’ other parents. For Carlos, one idea was Bruno Madrigal (inspired in part by my fanfiction Jinxed!!!).

The idea being, Bruno got sent to the Isle, and then he and Cruella had Carlos. Carlos and Bruno do have some similar personality traits. 

On the one hand, that’s not what’s going to happen in Jinxed, where Bruno got sent to the Isle.

On the other hand....I really like that idea.

What if Carlos was Bruno’s son?

Then Carlos de Vil would be Carlos Madrigal, ha.

Bruno shows up back at Encanto after 20 years with Carlos in tow. Carlos gets to meet his grandmother and aunts and uncles and cousins.

Now, Carlos canonically has a cousin named Diego de Vil (probably the son of Cecil de Vil). I also like to imagine Hunter and Ivy de Vil existing in the Descendants universe as well. So Carlos doesn’t really see the the Madrigals as family, at first. Except for his father.

Bruno and Pepa and Julieta spend all their time together. Carlos gets lumped in with Mirabel and Camilo a lot, since they’re about the same age. (Camilo: “You mean before Antonio was born I wasn’t the only boy?”)

Antonio is very excited to have a new tio and cousin. His new tio is spending all his time with his parents? Okay then! He’ll talk to his new cousin instead! He can talk to his pet dog for him!

Carlos feels awkward and out of place. He doesn’t know them. They’re loud. They’re happy. Julieta keeps fussing over him with food. Sure, he likes them, but he doesn’t feel like they’re family, not like his de Vil cousins.

Bruno, meanwhile, is struggling to A. reacclimate to his family after 20 years gone, B. get to know the entire new generation of nieces and nephews, C. readjust to having visions again after 20 years of not having them on the Isle (probably), and D. incorporate Carlos as part of the family.

Like, he grew up with his family. Then he got sent to the Isle. For 14-16 years, however old Carlos is, Carlos was Bruno’s only blood relative on the Isle, and Bruno did his best to take care of him. Carlos was his only family. Now they’re both back home (but is it home for Carlos?) and Bruno’s two separate families are now one...or they’re trying to be.

What would Carlos’ gift be? (Which Mirabel is not jealous about. Nope. Not at all.)

Then at some point, Carlos’ de Vil cousins show up.

#carlos de vil #bruno madrigal #descendants #disney descendants #the isle of the lost #encanto #carlos madrigal #lol #how about #carlos de vil madrigal #to clarify things #madrigal family #la familia madrigal #crossover

[daydreamdoodles]

I still need to finish the books, but I don't think I'm loving the framing of magic in the worldbuilding

It's lowkey obvious that magic ban is in part to avoid going over budget in the movies with cgi effects. But especially in the books, it feels a little "oh magic bad and corrupts." There's good and bad, yet all magic seems to cause issues. The good acts of magic get written off, like they're an exception to the rule.

There's like. attempted nuance to it, but I don't think the execution really works with how everything else reinforces that previous idea of magic is bad.

#day musings #this is def a pet peeve writing choice for me #which i am not placing the blame on Cruz #But as someone who was raised in a pagan household #magic has always been about intent #And even if you dont ascribe to that belief #To take a world that is the Disney Descendants land #with Neverland and Canterlot #That is so deeply ingrained with magic #and to write off all magic as corrupting #feels a little gross? #idk #Maybe the other books will expand on it #descendants #disney descendants #rise of the isle of the lost

[fortitudinem]

1: Do you think there is any health system on the Island? 2: What types of food and drinks are there on the island?3: Is there alcohol on the island?4: What would be the mottos that pirates use?

You asked this in November, I have a bad track record of answering things in a timely fashion. I apologize. Thanks for the question, though. One day I will finish writing sections on things like food and drink.

The healthcare system is non-existent. At least before the barrier comes down, medicines are usually hoarded and healers are in short supply. There will be some; several villains happen to be doctors, but it's your choice whether you'd be comfortable putting your faith in them. They charge extortionate rates for out of date medicines. The medicine on the Isle boils down to anything people in Auradon throw away and anything that can be grown as a herbal remedy. A lot of the kids pick up basic first aid and triage as they get older, get into scrapes and have to heal themselves. It's very dangerous.

Food and drink on the Isle is, originally, mainly leftovers. There is also a supply of fish, which is about the only food that can be caught fresh, but even that is in limited supply. Overfishing can lead to a lower population of fish and screw over everyone. There is no proper direct sunlight on the Isle prior to the barrier removal, so no plants can be grown for them to feed themselves. They rely on getting old food from Auradon. So foods are either past their best, or borderline inedible. The food they do have has to be picked from the trash they've been sent. We're talking brown apples, mouldy cheese and stale bread. The other option, of course, is eating things like rats and seagulls, of which there are plenty around the Isle. There really isn't much of a culture on the Isle of asking what's in food before you eat it, only making sure it isn't poisoned. Drinks are also limited, coffee can be made using old filters and beans, teabags can be reused, but this relies on there being fresh water. In my canon there is one fresh water source on the Isle and there was an attempt to take control of it by the horned king, but he was beaten back, so they have fresh water at least and can squash old fruits to flavour it. There's also things like seaweed shakes, where plants are blended into facsimiles of smoothies. And then, of course, there's your third question.

Alcohol is the other option for drinks, using fermenting fruits people are known to make their own alcohol, none of it is particularly good but what it lacks in taste it makes up for in strength, people on the Isle brew particularly potent alcohol just to deal with the situation they are in. So yes, the Isle has alcohol, but it's not exactly good.

The mottos that pirates use? It depends on which pirate, each captain will have their own motto and their own set of pirate rules. The pirate code really doesn't apply here. They'd probably focus heavily on the idea of 'take what you can, give nothing back' because that's the Isle. Every man for himself. Even most pirate crews will struggle with loyalty on the Isle, unless the crew in question can be given a compelling reason to stay.

#ANSWERED. #ABOUT | THE ISLE OF THE LOST.

[itsalwaysforyou]

i wish we’d got to see the older vks interact more with the younger kids bc it’s like. how much did they care for them on the isle? did they help them out, betray a moment of weakness so they didn’t have to suffer like they did? did they leave them to fend for themselves just like their parents, perpetuating that cycle of cruelty?

it’s implied that celia knows, and is at least friendly with, the rotten four, as well as uma’s gang. evie is close to dizzy. it’s just such an interesting dynamic, these teenagers who are selfish and rotten and evil, keeping an eye on kids just like how they used to be: vulnerable, helpless, learning how to survive the unforgiving isle streets. both parties as some sort of fractured, distorted mirror.

#like evie giving her purse to those street kids!! and jays little parkour park!! and carlos’ home for lost boys and girls!!!! #like they all care for these kids so much!!!! bc they were once like them!! #gaaahhhh i need to chew on glass i WISHHHHH we had more interactions #i need celia and jay being pickpockets together you don’t understand #like the teen vks are still CHILDREN!!!! they’re still kids!!!! so scarred from their childhoods that aren’t even over yet #and how they’re technically like 1st generation isle kids i guess #and all the younger kids and toddlers and BABIES on the isle and how they’re all like. Their Responsibility #and if the r4 never went over and if the barrier never came down #would the older kids perpetuate these cycles? would their well-disguised sympathy be squashed down into cruelty and abuse? #could they hurt a child knowing too well what it was like to be young and alone and having no one at all? #gah anyway. i shouldn’t think about descendants in the evening it does something to my brain #descendants

[dani-luminae]

Random brain idea I dunno what to do with:

Good to be Bad: A Disney Descendants Twisted Tale-verse; Descendants and D2 but what if Jamie existed the whole time?

#...he'd be much less willing to forgive mal about the love spell thing for one #probably yells at ben 'A CRUSH IS NOT A REASON TO EXCUSE THAT!!!!!!' #also he stubbornly still loves audrey and pushes ben to reconcile with her much much much earlier #...but jamie also helps ben blend in on the isle of the lost in d2 a *LOT* easier #so much easier that the vks (don't know about him) are actually kind of shocked

[happihness]

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Descendants (Disney Movies), The Isle of the Lost Series - Melissa de la Cruz Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Jay & Mal (Disney), Jay/Mal (Disney) Characters: Mal (Disney), Jay (Disney) Additional Tags: Pre-Canon, before descendants 1, Minor Violence, Implied/Referenced Torture, Blood and Injury, Isle of the Lost (Disney), Isle of the Lost is a Terrible Place (Disney), there are deaths on the isle of the lost, Protective Jay (Disney) Summary:

Words died in Jay’s throat. How could he tell her that he was getting beaten to a pulp because they knew she was his weakness? How could he tell her that he had let them tie him up without protest in hopes that she would be shown mercy? How could he tell her that the fear of how he might find her consumed his entire being that he could barely move? Jay’s eyes flickered to Mal’s neck, seeing crimson red bleeding through the bandages. He couldn’t.

Or Jay nearly loses Mal.

#jay #mal #descendents #disney #jal #mal x jay #jay x mal #i'm new to this #is this how tags work #isle of the lost #bad at tags #got inspired to write about them after rewatching d2 #it's been so long since i've watched descendants

[panthera-tigris-venenata]

The Isle of the Lost is Neverland.

Think about it for a second: A land untouched by time? By death? What better place to bring the once-dead villains into?

Neverland shouldn't exist, and neither should the Isle. Adults can't find the land their kids vanished into and the people of Auradon couldn't take a look at the Isle if they wanted. And if the imprisoned villains managed to break free? How could they possibly know where to flee?

Neverland became the Isle of the Lost.

It's cruel, really. They only laugher to be heard at this place is an echo of Peter Pan's. Captain Hook says he can still hear it, sometimes. The Isle kids hear half-forgoten words asking them to "come with me" and "be a child forever, never grow up!" in their dreams.

They never respond.

They never got the chance to be kids in the first place.

The waters of the Isle are plagued not only by sharks and crocodiles, no: mermaids, sirens, still lounge in the warm waters, still competing for affections of a boy that is no longer there (or is he?)

The Isle girls don't dare to come to the water.

And the Lost boys? These children out of time?

They have so many new friends now, and they can't figure out why they don't want to play.

The Lost Boys are the only ones to remember that Isle of the Lost was once Neverland.

#disney descendants #the isle of the lost #the isle of the lost is a terrible place #Neverland #peter pan #Wendy doesn't know about this #but it sounds cool #uma does dare to go to the water btw #and cj had to be dragged back from there several times #mal went there on dare #everyone else has common sense #oh and Harriet would kill the mermaids if they hurt CJ #look at me I made myself cry #the isle of the lost is neverland