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myun-saidthoughts · 4 months

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Understanding 12th House Synastry

(*updated* and more accurate post about about 12th house synastry overlays along with Neptune synastry that makes harsh aspects to another's inner planets such as the Sun, Moon, rising, Venus or Mars)

There are two sides of 12th house synastry that I commonly see. The spectrum is different compared to the 8th house because with the 8th house, there are highs and lows, obvious extremes, there's oftentimes constant lessons, cycles and loops, but with the 12th house, there's a different undertone.

The 12th house is a very unforeseen house, when it comes with synastry, the spectrum of love that can be received and given is unfathomable. I am going to first discuss what this energy is like when someone deals with this type of synastry while having Neptune (especially harshly) aspecting your inner planets/12th house placements/Pisces placements; then I will go in-depth for how they would feel without those placements.

(that being said my main discussion deals with the foundation of both individuals having attraction or interest on both ends, as well as other intense synastry overlays such as harsh or soft attraction synastry aspects, + eros, lilith, chiron, pluto, or 8th house synastry)

As a 12th house native or with heavy Pisces influence (e.g., a Pisces Venus, Sun, Moon, rising, or with a natal Neptune squaring, opposing or conjunct the Sun, Moon, rising, Venus) this type of synastry is confusing, it's blurry and parts of you can second guess almost everything about them, what you are to them, what they are to you etc. There are no tangible boundaries when it comes to the emotional depth you are willing to feel for them. On some days you can find yourself wondering where you stand with them, you fixate on their energy, and you'll wonder if they're thinking of you. You look into their eyes and just feel their mental health struggles, their fears, their hidden thoughts, what they need to hear to feel seen past the 3D. You're like a walking and breathing affirmation audio tape of everything their subconscious always wished to of heard throughout life. That one broken image or belief they have within their subconscious self is the one thing you can't help but compliment them on, the feelings they ignore, suppress or hide away are the feelings you want to naturally reassure them about. It's like you become this real life 3D fixer upper for this individual, and you just can't help but be drawn with saving, helping, or fixing them. (undoubtedly so if you also fall in their 2nd house, especially your inner planets, if there is no 2nd house influence then the compliments/praising will be less intense or frequent)

The beginning of this synastry embodies confusion. Since there's no real tangible statement or understanding you can hold onto. You'll just know how they operate before ever really knowing them.

You'll just want to make sure that they are okay, and that can come in many different ways, you yourself will just know. You can turn into this savior that they never knew they needed, you'll just want to give and love everything out of them; and in some cases receiving or having that mutual give and take may be something you think you don't need, especially when it comes to them, and especially if you have a natal 12th House Venus or a Pisces Venus/a Natal Venus that squares, conjuncts or opposes Neptune (this can apply to the Moon as well).

To reiterate; if you share the above placements you instantly can become drawn towards the house person. You will look at them and see every facet of their being, their hidden pain, their sorrows, why they feel the way they do, why they struggle the way they struggle, their mental health dilemmas, their soul; especially so if you as well have a water Moon that harshly aspects Neptune as well as the above listed placements. But these feelings don't persist automatically or openly, the desires the planet person or the one person who has the placements I listed/spiritual enlightenment + attraction towards the house person (or the other person) stays at bay and stays being unsaid, especially in the beginning. The planet person with these placements etc etc, can hold onto constant dilemmas and wonder if what they are feeling is real, if what they desire is one sided, especially if there is little to no communication between the dynamic.

On the other side of the spectrum, this bond (when wanted on both ends) can create a soul binding connection where the house person would feel like no one else can ever understand them the way the planet person can. No one else would be able to read them like the book they secretly are, no one else can look into their eyes and bring solace into their bones, which in-turn can cause the dynamic between them to consistently become something that is impossible to let go of.

With attraction + desire the house person may feel like a hug from the planet person* (or vice versa) is equivalent to receiving a sense of understanding and safety that they weren't aware they ever needed. The house person may just find themselves fully being able to lay and hold onto the planet person* and there's this unsaid desire just be next to them. The planet person* may instinctively feel this pull or knowing that there is a softer more serene side of the house person that not everyone see's and even though there's no tangible words to hold onto, that feeling within them doesn't dissipate. Just with one hug from the house person and the planet person* will know that there's a soft and quiet side inside them that they hide or suppress away.

* = placements I listed + spiritually understanding/enlighted

The house person will ask themselves: How do I let go of the one soul who speaks to the parts of myself that I don't even know? The intensity of the bond can vary based on each others natal placements, but I do believe the connection can become deep and unworldly even without the placements I've listed since attraction and desire are two KEY factors that would override any natal placement. Instant psychic understanding about one another on both ends (regardless of natal placements) can occur, you both will know what the other person is thinking, feeling, and needing. If there is genuine desire for one another then the depth of care can become very ethereal and unspoken, especially if the Moon or Venus are involved; if attraction is present and you have the placements I mentioned, a part of you will just want to hold onto the house person. You'll just want to comfort and be present in the moment with them. All that matters to you is that they are doing and feeling okay, with them this part of you unlocks where you just want to caress their soul. But like I said natal placements do have an immense influence, one individual could feel this pull and understanding (w/o the placements I mentioned) but the depth and length for caring may not run as deep as someone else who has the natal placements I listed. They will still care in some shape or form in ways they never knew was possible; but the turnover of moving on or of minimizing selfless acts can become more shallow and less frequent throughout time.

When wanted on both ends with genuine care and desire the song Run To You by Lea Michele perfectly depicts this type of deep care.

Now this type of synastry can also begin the influence of delusion or false presumptions. Genuineness and self awareness is key, not everyone will desire such depth of the unknown especially if they themselves have no set understanding of their own subconscious beliefs.

To reiterate, if this is one sided therefore if they don't share attraction or desire for you; then this type of behavior will feel invasive and they may become confused or unsure with what to do with that type of depth that your eyes can bring them, if they are unaware of their own shadow self, along with not wanting to change or be spiritually awoken, this type of connection can be daunting and misleading in some way for them.

Now lets go deeper: for someone who doesn't have any 12th house Venus, Pisces Venus, Neptune influence (or if you have little to no attraction or interest towards them), or low spiritual awareness/acknowledgement of your own mental health struggles/hidden fears and if someone comes in to your life where they fall in your 12th house, the feelings that acclimate mainly are confusion, resistance or hesitation. You might have some hidden curiosity about the planet person but generally the curiosity can be the furthest you go with this individual. There might be some hidden tension or eye glances towards another but with it there is also a barrier between the two of you. You may feel like you know their body language or what their eye glances mean but you more than likely brush it off and set aside any spiritual coincidences that you have with them. You may also wither back and forth between being more inclined to getting to know them to being unsure with your interest in them or there's a sense of unpreparedness you may struggle with when it comes to this individual. A part of you may feel like their type of love can sooth parts of you that you ignore or mentally struggle with but that type of care can feel unneeded and can bring in fear; since there is a unspoken knowing of what they are able to truly view and feel for you if they were your partner. You may ask yourself, "Can this person fix, and heal me? " "Do I really need to be saved?" "Is this all in my head?" "Can they be the pacifier for the pain I can't even openly express; or will they bring me more sorrow?"

(this dilemma of curiosity is more apparent if you share other direct intense synastry aspects such as 8th/pluto/intense attraction aspects especially with eros or lilith etc)

(Even writing the paragraph above brought me so much confusion, for this post I am drawing from my own experience with 12th house + harsh Neptune synastry with a boy i've known for years and it still brings me so much hesitation and confusion with how he may feel about me. I still stand in uncertainty and confusion even though my own sense of how I feel towards him is consciously open, this energy is so extremely hard to pin point and logically articulate especially as someone who has 12th house placements + harsh aspects to my Moon. I as well share 8th house synastry with the relationship I am referencing and even from being so introspective and readily aware of how 8th house synastry manifests from every minuscule feeling or thought, I am still stuck with; confusion when it comes to the 12th house)

That being said, if there is a connection where one person has these natal placements and desires for the other individual but the other partner doesn't share the same attraction/placements; then that is when unrequited love or unspoken love can occur. To summarize, for 12th house and neptune synastry to be mutual even if the other partner doesn't have those natal these placements, there has to be attraction or desire; whether it be physical, or emotional. Someone could have these placements that I've listed but if there is no want, attraction or desire towards the other person; the dynamic can also become one sided on their end even with the placements and tendencies of being drawn towards connections that share 12th/neptune/pisces influence.

12th house synastry is the house of selflessness, this is the house of giving and giving to no end; since in one essence this house holds no end or beginning, therefore the boundaries and understanding that this house can carry is unknown. Each dynamic with 12th house synastry can be complexed, there are many factors that play a role in influencing this type of connection such as your natal placements, their natal placements, your natal aspects, their natal aspects, you desire and attraction and their desire and attraction and so on. Someone could sit in this confused and undesired energy for the other person for months and have all the placements I've listed. Therefore if that said individual is not prepared or have any desires to hold a connection that is deep and unspoken, they themselves (the planet person or the person who has 12th house/neptune/pisces influence) may even still feel fear or invasiveness towards the other individual that their share 12th house synastry with or vice versa; there are so many avenues and routes these connections can take, at least that's from my own astrological understanding and take on these type of connections.

Side Note: To balance the intensity these synastry aspects/overlays bring, taking on the opposite houses themes would bring more ease and create less intensity.

For example, dealing with 12H (Even Neptune) synastry, the opposite house is the 6H, the house of routine, daily life, mundane affairs, healthcare, helping others/giving etc etc. So to ease this type of fixation this synastry can cause, focus and enhance your own skills when it comes to your physical/mental health. Add more day to day to activities that solely focuses on changing your routine; however big or small. That will ease the fixation that 12H and Neptune synastry brings. This synastry can cause you to daydream or obsess over them, and since you may have this innate need to be their savior that wants to try and fix their wounds, the chance of putting yourself in situations where your priority is solely them is very likely. You could also fantasize and have an escapist attitude with them, (or the idea of them) therefore, they can serve as an escape for you; by focusing on their pain and struggles might cause you to forget about your own mental health challenges. You also might repeat scenarios in your head or fantasize about situations happening; especially since you might feel confused/hazy with where you stand with them, therefore keeping yourself busy is key with this synastry, and that will create more control within you.

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This is all from my own interpretation of 12th house synastry, I would confidently say I am a very very introspective person at heart, I read between the lines constantly and overly fixate on behavior etc and this synastry still clouded my own judgment and understanding for years; it brought in tendencies for me to doubt my true feelings and curiosity, only until I more so let go of the relationship that I am referencing (the boy where I have 8th house synastry with) was the only time I was able to fully look outside my situation with him when it came to my actions and feelings. The constant back and fourth dilemma I struggled with when it came to knowing him and who he was was constant yet truly instant. My soul knew him before my brain did and because of that knowing I was unsure and unconfident with the type of feelings that persisted in the dynamic I shared with him. I have made so many posts about 12th house synastry but I can confidently say that this current post is now the most accurate representation of what can occur between these relationships.

Hope this brings some clarity and understanding for others who have dealt with 12th house and Neptune synastry; if not disregard and again this type of synastry is truly nuanced and multifaceted.

If this resonates with you I have an eBook that perfectly depicts and explains if you are in a karmic relationship. It's about 8th/12th/Pluto/Neptune/Saturn/Vertex/Nodal synastry. I give insights, exact transits, exact synastry overlays, natal chart interpretations and more advice on what to do in these situations. More information is pinned on my page.

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mercurianchild · 2 months

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Venus in the 12th house

🌌 A Cosmic Ballet of Love and Solitude 🌌

Ah, Venus in the 12th House, where love meets the ethereal realms of dreams and shadows. It's like a clandestine affair with the universe itself, where romance intertwines with solitude in a delicate dance of secrecy and enchantment.

In the 12th House, Venus wears a cloak of mystery, weaving her magic behind the scenes, hidden from prying eyes. Here, love is not always seen or understood by the world, but it pulsates quietly in the depths of the soul, like a secret garden blooming under the cover of night. Those with Venus in the 12th House are the dreamers of love, the poets of the heart, who feel the whispers of romance in the silence of solitude. They may seek love in the hidden corners of the world, finding beauty in the shadows and depth in the unseen.

But beware, for Venus in the 12th House is not without its challenges. It can bring moments of longing and melancholy, as love dances just out of reach, tantalizingly close yet impossibly far. It's like trying to hold onto a starlight in the darkness, a fleeting moment of beauty that slips through your fingers like grains of sand. Yet, amidst the shadows, there is also a profound sense of connection—to the divine, to the universe, to something greater than oneself. Venus in the 12th House invites us to surrender to the mysteries of love, to embrace the beauty of the unknown, and to find solace in the depths of our own hearts.

Venus in the 12th House casts a spell of enchantment upon those who cross its path, weaving a tapestry of allure and intrigue that captivates the hearts and minds of others. Like a siren's song echoing through the depths of the ocean, it beckons with a magnetic pull, drawing souls into its embrace with an irresistible charm. Those with Venus in the 12th House exude an aura of mystery and allure, as if they carry the secrets of the universe within their very being. Others are drawn to their enigmatic presence, unable to resist the allure of their hidden depths and the promise of adventure that lies beyond.

Yet, there is a sense of elusiveness to Venus in the 12th House, like trying to grasp a fleeting dream or capture a wisp of smoke in the wind. Others may sense the depth of their emotions and the intensity of their desires, but they struggle to fully understand or penetrate the veil of secrecy that surrounds them. In the presence of someone with Venus in the 12th House, others may feel a sense of longing or yearning, as if they are drawn to something just out of reach. It's like being tantalizingly close to a treasure trove of beauty and wonder, yet unable to fully grasp its splendor.

Yet, despite the veil of mystery that shrouds Venus in the 12th House, there is also a sense of magic and romance that permeates the air. Others may find themselves swept away by the intoxicating charm of these individuals, lost in the enchanting spell of their presence.

In the end, Venus in the 12th House leaves an indelible mark on those who encounter it, like a whisper in the wind or a lingering echo in the night. It is a reminder of the power of love to transcend the boundaries of time and space, and to touch the deepest recesses of the human soul. 🌊🕯️🔮

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evangelinesbible · 1 year

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PLACEMENTS THAT MIGHT EXPERIENCE HEARTBREAK A LOT

Specifically talking about romantic relationships but this could technically count for friendships as well. Of course any one can get their heart broken but I’m specifically looking at placements that’ll experience it the most/ why they experience heartbreak a lot.

7H PLACEMENTS/STELLIUM

The house of relationships is also the house of open enemies and sadly most people with this placement will experience betrayal/ heart break form people they consider friends or lovers. They tend to attract people who use their selflessness against them.

7H SATURN

Their love lives sometimes feels stagnant. They sometimes seem to go no where when it comes to relationships. They may be mature in relationships but it takes a big push for them to want to settle down. They might feel lonely a lot and might have major trust insides because 7H still rules over open enemies.

12H VENUS

Beautiful beautiful sweethearts who deserve so much more. Tend to self sabotage because they are often afraid to take a risk in love. Having secret crushes but never feeling brave enough to ask them out. Not all are like this, but I know for a fact that a lot are. They fantasize about love and are true romantics but tend to believe that they’ll be nothing but fantasies.

VENUS - SATURN

The planet of love meeting with the planet of limitations and restriction. These people may be blessed with ageless beauty but are constantly fighting in their head. They don’t know if they want full independence or devoted love. The view of love is conflicting and they often self sabotage or restrain themselves from love.

5H CAPRICORN

Having such a strict/stubborn view of love or dating can stifle them. They can be too serious when it comes to flings or a have such high standards when it comes to love so they’re often disappointed.

5H SCORPIO

They’re obsessiveness over the people they care about can tend to fuck them over. Especially when other people have planets in their house. 5th house usually rules over short term relationships/flings but Scorpio rules over the 8H and can tend to be the opposite of that so these people (Scorpio 5H) can become obsessive and get really heart broken when it isn’t long lasting.

CHIRON 5H/7H

The wounded healer in these houses can mean that these people learn hurtful but valuable lessons in love/relationships. They strive for that perfect fairytale love but tend to choose the wrong people, most likely because of childhood traumas that relate to love and being desired. They need to learn through heartbreak what they truly want AND need from love

PISCES SUN

Pisces rules over Neptune and Neptune can rule over dreams/delusion. Pisces are known for wild imaginations and creativity. They tend to ignore reality, especially when it comes to their relationship. They might have created a version of their partner in their head that isn’t true to reality. And that fantasy is often shattered when their parents push them to that final edge to where they can’t deny reality anymore.

What do you think? Do you agree? Do you know anymore placements that might experience heartbreak a lot? 💋

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claireverything · 9 months

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I feel like, as a 12th house person, you really have to turn down the volume on everyone else most of the time. Turn down the volume of their opinions, their thoughts, their beliefs.

Living for myself was the best thing I could ever have done for myself. Choosing and committing to my own world, to my own dreams, to my own visions. Yes it's lonely, and yes it feels isolating. But it's worth being able to live for myself, and I'm saying this as someone who never did. I grew up always living for other people to the point where my life didn't feel like my own (another very 12th house trait).

We're meant to be solitary. We're meant to be isolated. We're meant to be distanced from people. Because the truth is people are not well. They are not sane. And they are not powerful. And we are meant to be powerful. We are powerful, always have been. We just forgot, spending all our time living for everyone else. For everyone else's idea of what Life is. Of what Purpose is.

Don't forget. Be yourself and remember. Even if that isolates you to the end of the world and beyond. Because actually, you're never really alone *whispers* but that's a post for another day

#12th house #12th house sun #12th house moon #12th house mercury #12th house venus #12th house mars #12th house stellium #12th house person #12th house saturn #12th house jupiter #12th house pluto

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ancientgoddessofegypt · 1 year

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12th house and the inner alchemist

I notice people with this placement become deeply aware of what frequencies they want to be around. Like if you want something that is more 'jolly, fun, and whimsical' you might search for it in your mind , and then you start to find it in your body. It starts with the spirit first, then you go into meditation to connect with this energy through the art of imagination. That 'jolly, fun, whimsical energy' could end up taking you to a cool coffee shop, end up taking you into a colorful shop with weird looking food , or hell may take you to the circus ! because what youre looking for is the feeling/energy not the 'thing' itself.

I love to say 12th housers are like the boy in this book called 'The Alchemist', where he wanted to look for a treasure to make all his dreams come true, ends up going on a long journey before he finally finds the treasure that was in his hometown all along. In the end he realized what he wanted wasnt about the treasure, the treasure was a symbol to what he wanted to do in his reality which he eventually did without the treasure itself. The treasure is the idea of the energy he wanted in his life, not the thing itself.

Because the imagination brings things to us, and all though we aren't able to explain exactly what it is we are looking for, we go into meditative states to jump into this reality (manifestation) and then follow it with our bodies. And one by one, piece by piece, we enter into the worlds of our psyche through the physical reality.

One thing I can say about 12th housers, you have to let go of the IDEA because it is just that, an IDEA. it is useful for when you are looking for the spirit/energy of the thing you are looking for.

Also since I brought up the alchemist. The story was about making a way for yourself no matter what obstacles you go through, no matter if you dont have that 'thing' you need to get there. You create your reality as you go.

the boy had a simple intention to go find this treasure because he believed it would allow him stop talk taking care of sheep (he was a sheep boy), he could travel all around the world, find a wife, and live the life of his dreams. He evidently did all of that without the treasure! He made a way without even thinking of it, because he knew since he had left his hometown and the sheep there was no other choice but to make something happen!

I believe 12th housers have that inner alchemist inside them, which is why they are so good at painting, drawing, and whatever other art you can name cause its a lot (lol).

12th housers are great at using these things to attract what they want in their life, they follow the frequency/energy knowingly and unknowingly. I call them he universes messengers because they rely messages to the collective without having to explain to us whats the message.

I notice 12th house individuals show this with their music. like I said with frequency a lot of them know the type of energy they wish to convey in their songs because thats the vibe they want to keep with them as they journey through life.

think of sza, a fellow 12th houser with 4 planets (venus,uranus, saturn, and neptune) and she is known to connect to a certain frequency that sounds like 'fairies, sirens, and anything magical' (im honestly referring to ctrl and her older works from 2013/14)

It can also be a 'curse' one type sza tweeted how singing 'supermodel' off her ctrl album 'summoned' the guy she was talking about in the song.

12th house rules over the subconscious, so sometimes your art can attract what you dont want to you. you have to move around it, learn how to use it as a repellant as it can attract fleas (I say this about pisces/neptune peeps a lot, y'all do tend to attract flies).

using your mind to control your reality can be mastered if you continue to heal the shadow. your shadow is just what you've been accustomed to believe that it is shameful, and cant be seen in the light.

the shadow is who you are, dont be ashamed and run from it.

blessings to all my 12th house individuals you guys have a wonderful gift inside that interesting brain of yours! keep it up.

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sapionic · 1 month

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The 12th House In Astrology (2024)

Ok, so I just had an epiphany based on a transit and have come to realize that the 12th house can be considered when something happens last minute. Having 12th house placements means that you let those particular things pile up. 2 examples of the 12th house natal placement Moon in the 12th house natally-emotional pile and last minute emotional release. This is why 12th house moons can seem emotional, because the emotions are being felt, but not released right away. It's like filling up a balloon with water. Venus in the 12th house natally-they may let things pile up around them of value whether it be dishes, clothes, or anything,romantic pile up. Might like or love someone, but may not be convincing right away. This can also cause other people to consider them romantically when it is "too late" or almost too late. 2 examples of the 12th house transit Venus in the 12th house - something is piling up. this can be laundry pile ups, romantic pile ups or any material pileup that needs to be handled. How it plays out can vary because there can be pile ups due to shopping or due to maintenance. Transiting aspects will bring it together. Mars in the 12th house - build up of anger or action/waiting til the last minute to do something.

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astrolocherry · 5 months

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"Venus in the 12th house signifies a hidden, secluded space for love and relationships. Individuals with this placement often seek to bring their lovers into a private, almost spiritual realm where the outside world fades away. This can lead to experiences with secret romances and attractions to partners who are elusive or unavailable. The boundaries in relationships become fluid, with a heightened psychic receptivity to emotional impulses. There is a deep, profound love for humanity, but it may coexist with a sense of unlovability, potentially leading to withdrawal from the world."

#venus in the 12th house #12th house venus

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pearl-tarotist · 2 years

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12TH HOUSE STELLIUM BRUSHSTROKES

﹌﹌﹌After feeling extremely tired without apparent reason and after blaming it on my 12th house stellium, I have decided to post a bit about what these placements truly feel like. (My placements are Mercury, Jupiter, Juno, Saturn, North Node...have in mind these will be the most affected aspects).

༊*·˚ What does it mean to have a 12th house Stellium? (In classical astrology) ༊*·˚

It's the House of the Unconscious. Full of Mistery.

The 12th house is associated to hidden enemies and to sorrow, to the unseen realm.... It's also refered as the spiritual house, in more deep, to past lifes and karmic debts. I feel as it is refered to everything you can not see.

╰┈➤How does it feel to have a 12th house Stellium?

In a summary it feels as if you were a really tired twenty-something victorian girl, with a recent broken-heart, who was receipted by a doctor to stay with distant relatives next to the sea to calm your nerves. (Hint: you never do travel next to the sea to calm your nerves). ( I think this condition was called "nervous breakdowns" in the victorian era).

Never opening to anyone, being scared of they using it against you.

Getting so tired after so little action. so tired...😭

Wanting to be alone 24/7.

Feeling frustrated for not being able to show yourself even if you want to after meeting with someone. Feeling as if people did not see the best you have to offer.

No romantic life. (Exclusive to venus 12th house?)

Painting, reading, writing... art being anchored into our soul since we are young.

Brain fog, cloudy mind. Always thinking about what could be and how amazing it would be, but not having energy to do it.

An extreme need to close your eyes and rest your head on a table.

While growing up, feeling as if there was more to what you were seeing. "Is this all? Is this how grown-ups live?"

Having a great intuition to discover people lies or feeling when someone is hiding something from you.

Listening to music late at night alone: earphones in your ears, lights off, calm music. It's a nice feeling. (Extra points if it's something as Lana del Rey, the 1975 or Cigarettes after Sex).

Feeling invisible to a lot of people. People never realizing when you're gone but they realizing when you come. "Oh, you are a ninja".

People cutting you off while speaking, even your own friends that you love and appreciate, they don't even realize.

Being soft-spoken may also have something to do with it.

Having to deal with a lot of family issues since you were young (health problems, inheritances fights...).

Some people may not even appreciate what you do for them, as if they did not notice.

Sadly, I think that having this unseen realm energy makes you a bit invisible.

There are lot of good things too:

An extreme connection to art and in the way it fulfills you. Being able to understand books and characters in extreme detail.

Feeling as if you were special, as if you were part of something bigger than the rest of the world can not see.

Enjoying little things as landscapes, flowers, little touches...I kinda feel as a cat but just when the sun is hitting them.

Just as romantic characters (Jane Eyre, Lucy Snowe... also, the man in the Wanderer above the Sea of Fog painting). Having a strong aura of independence and love for your own values.

I think it's good that we will just become a girlfriend, wife, a good daughter...If the person we unite to is worthy of us and of our values.

Learning to see pain as way of growth.

Knowing there's always something more, something bigger you can not actually point to.

I used to repeat the word "Karma" a lot when I was young (12-14), not even knowing about astrology.

I think I have the karma of my past lives or family, but my own karma has always been good. (As in people that hurt me, people that get hurt).

As the third photo, you feel as if you were kissing the dark... after getting used to it, it's like a long-time friend. It kinda makes you feel as if you were the light it feeds off. (It could also be due to my cancer sun and rising, ngl)

I don't think I would change it .

“I believe in some blending of hope and sunshine sweetening the worst lots. I believe that this life is not all; neither the beginning nor the end. I believe while I tremble; I trust while I weep.”. ― Charlotte Bronte, Villette.

“But solitude is sadness.''"Yes; it is sadness. Life, however, has worse than that. Deeper than melancholy lies heart-break.” -Charlotte Brontë, Villette

¡! DISCLAIMER: These are all my experiences and vibes from the 12th house stellium, feel free to comment and discuss all you want under this post.

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cosmicplexus · 2 months

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Hey! I’m not sure if you’re currently responding to questions, but I was curious of your thoughts on a guy with his Venus in Capricorn retrograde in the 12th house?

🦋One thing I like about Capricorn Venus natives is how they're upfront about love matters and aren't usually the type to play around, with the exception of a Venus afflicted by Jupiter or Neptune(in a square or oppoition to Jupiter)

🦋He is a practical person and would be impressed if he sees you have realistic aspirations of your own and are driven towards your goals.

🦋Earth Venus placements are heavy on acts of service so this is one way to win his heart, while also looking into his other placements for more clues on how to connect with him.

🦋The 12th house Venus adds a layer of sensitivity and sentiment to his self-expression which is mostly practical and mature due to Saturn's influence. He can have a romantic bone in him more than the archetypal Capricorn Venus.

🦋In my very controversial opinion, natal retrogrades are as powerful as people let them be in their lives so I personally wouldn't be too worried, but worthy to note for a retrograde Venus is that he may be reserved which is already expected for someone with a 12th house Venus.

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celestialscatterbrain · 1 month

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The world doesn’t deserve the love that can come from a 12H venus, they can love unconditionally (even to their detriment)

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divinatorydoll · 10 months

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hi! do you know how to find the genre of music you most like making using horary astrology?

hey love !! while this can totally be found with horary astrology, i’d definitely recommend that you look more into your natal chart and your venus persona chart

venus is the planet of music, harmony, and bliss — wherever venus is in your natal chart will give you a great amount of insight on what music you’ll enjoy making the most !!

here are a few examples:

venus in the 12H: they enjoy making music that has a somewhat erratic or underground quality. they also have an attachment to music that discusses topics like loneliness, separation, sadness, or feeling lost (12H)

venus in leo: they enjoy making music about flirting, sex, romance, glamour, and love. leo is the sign of joy and warmth, so leo venuses have a natural talent for making “songs of the summer”

venus in taurus: venus at home here makes for incredibly well-rounded and elegant vocalists. their music often revolves around food or drink, stability, recreational activity, the search of pleasure, and material satisfaction

venus in ardra nakshatra: as ardra is represented by the teardrop, these people find a lot of healing in making music they can cry to (whether in a positive or negative way). also great for anyone who wants to make music with rain or thunderstorm sounds

you can also find your venus persona chart here on astro-seek.com !! since venus is the embodiment of music, looking at this persona chart can help you fine-tune the type of music you’re looking to create :)

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myun-saidthoughts · 1 year

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Understanding 8th House Synastry:

8th house (or even 12th/harsh pluto) synastry in one nutshell:

if the love you have for yourself is lower than the desire to be loved, a part of you will always want them.

if you have unfinished abandonment wounds where someone in your life chose others over you, the dilemma of wanting to move on to wanting to stay will always be there. if they have brought you situations where your self worth has been tested over and over again, yet you don't despise their waking existence, the want for them will always overpower through. their absence hurts more than the constant trials and errors that occur. their presence alone pushes over all logic and thoughts, and the thought you'll only hear is how they treated you was somehow justifiable.

In most cases the emotions that persevere are either love or hate, this synastry creates this black or white, all or nothing, I need you, to I can't stand you type of tennis match. So, if you don't choose yourself over the acceptance that they give you, your void (that they are able to fill) will always be vacant.

you'll always want their energy, their touch. you'll still look for them in other faces, you'll search for that feeling in someone else, compare the emotion you feel with them to everyone that passes by, and you'll come to the realization that the threshold that they created, is untouchable. no one can fit into the box they so carefully orchestrated, no one can mimic the energy that manifests between the two of you.

they'll walk into a bar and after weeks, months, years even and you'll make eye contact with them, and if the love you have for yourself is lower than the desire to be loved, you can't help but walk straight towards them, with open arms. it doesn't matter what they said, or what they did, all that matters is that their eyes, their touch hits you in places that you can't even reach, places that are hidden within you.

they are this reminder of the capacity you're able to reach within love, you'll look at them and your stomach will drop, they were the one "thing" that made you believe that you were lovable, they were the one "thing" that allowed the desire of accepting love in, and now they're standing in front of you, so what do you do? you can't help but have the urge to invite them in, your void that they filled was kept so cozy by them, and now that void only calls their name.

how do you walk away from the one person who brought the idea of accepting love go? how do you let the one person who allowed you to fully feel become out of reach? how do you say good bye to the one person who brings you the sense of home you never felt, leave? how do you deny the one person who brings you the sense of wholeness you wish you could hold?

how do you choose yourself instead?

their presence transpires this feeling in you and that feeling disappears every time you look away from them, and that feeling hides from everyone, even from you.

how do you expect to let that part of you go when they become the key that can reach the deepest parts of you. you want nothing more than to latch onto that hidden fortress, yet somehow, it disappears every time you look in the mirror.

you don't know how to love yourself and you don't know how to complete that part of you. you can't help but ignore that little girl inside you that is crying to come out; and when they entered your life they somehow soothed her, they gave her that home she never had, and they gave her the safeness she never felt.

how do you override that soft yet overpowering desire that is screaming at you to let them in, that desire has one goal, and that goal is to just accept loves offer, and with everyone else you can't.

you can't allow yourself to be loved in the way you wish for, yet with them that desire just seems to effortlessly flow out, and so letting that part of you go, is letting the deepest void you hold, intensify.

so, understanding that the connection you have can be beautiful, but there's always be one condition, you always have to choose you, and in most cases than not this person walked into your life solely to fix and rebuild the value and worth you lack. they are only here to create this lesson for you to grasp and understand that yes someone very close to you in your life chose others over you, and that person kept disappointing you in ways that you bury, you now look for a home in every one else but the only home you'll ever need, is the home you can give yourself.

p.s now this is obviously thoughts on toxic chaotic relationships where one person has self worth issues, and fear of vulnerability/acceptance of true love, so those who don't fall in that category probably won't feel this intensity. there are two sides to 8th synastry but i want to shed more light where people might struggle with it and offer a reflection as to why it might be so hard to let go. this energy can consume you and for those who relate; you're not alone, or crazy to hold on to something that's deemed un-logical, unrealistic or out of reach.

I have an eBook, and with it has more precise definitions regarding the placements of the IC, Moon aspects, and the potential manifestations of each inner planet in the 8th or 12th house for individuals. As well as it provides information if the person you're connected to is a karmic connection, it has advice, insights and exact transits/synastry overlays to further understand the connection. You can find the link to my eBook pinned on my page.

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mutable-star-child · 2 years

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Venus in the 12th house

✨💜 These natives have a beauty that is seldom talked about , they’re the type to become more beautiful the longer you know them or spend time with them , you may catch yourself noticing beauty in the smallest things that eventually add up and one day your looking at them bewildered at how you never noticed them before. It’s like Neptune blurs them and then one day the focus becomes crystal clear

✨ 💜 a lot of these natives have an ethereal essence to their look . They look like they’re from another time or they look like angels , mermaids , or even aliens , some may even look quite “plain” but again the longer you spend time with them or see them the more their beauty becomes prevalent to you

✨💜People easily become obsessed with a 12th house Venus . If you get to know them whether at work or friendship , they’re so sweet and so caring and loving, the energy that comes off of them is something you’ve never felt before .. they make you feel seen and heard for who you really are and that feeling is unforgettable

✨💜a lot of people will see how kind ,compassionate and empathetic these people are and will want their attention and energy without having to give an equal exchange in return , this of course goes along with the life long lesson for a 12th house venus of learning to love themselves and give themselves what they so readily give to others .

✨💜I’ve noticed whether male or female with this placement that they can attract quite a lot of jealousy from the same sex . Perhaps others can see how touched or moved or attracted others are to them and that invokes it but usually the 12th house Venus can be quite oblivious to how much they actually affect people .

✨💜I’ve also noticed that these peoples looks aren’t talked about as much soberly … but as soon as people start getting drinks in them they get complimented way more haha

✨💜I know that the 12th house venus is cliché for secret love affairs but not every 12th house venus will participate in a secret love affair . I have noticed that some married people will secretly fantasize about them or have crushes on them or secretly fall in love with them and have to keep it to themselves

✨💜They tend to have a sweet tooth hahah or love to shop and spend money . Which should be practiced with caution , they are the type to not buy anything for a long time then just one day decide they want an iPad and drop 2 Gs hahah ( my bf has done this 😂 )

✨💜 Day dreamers , they have the most beautiful minds and usually have an eye for aesthetics , they can also put things together that wouldn’t seem to go together, but some how they meld them together into something unique and original.

✨💜 They’re the type to daydream about being artists and have an appreciation for the arts , once they get over the day dreaming phase and actually do art whether professionally or as a hobby they produce amazing pieces

✨💜 growing up their looks weren’t really talked about , even if they are very attractive .. it’s funny because telling them they’re good looking or attractive they’re so modest , which accentuates that 12th house venus charm

✨💜Ex’s do NOT want to let them go , they will try to stay around as just friends or keep in touch or even try their hardest to not break up .. but they are elusive .. Neptunes house makes them feel far away and close , haunting their dreams or thoughts , these people are unforgettable

✨💜They pick up on so much energy and help transmute energy by just being around , they need their alone time to recharge

✨💜 Again people just adore them , they are sweet angels and if you have one in your life , cherish them , watch the subtlety of their beauty . The words they speak , the words they don’t speak , they’re facial expressions, how they express themselves . Get to know them , give them back what they give to you and you will have the most abundant of relationships . They are amazing friends and lovers and family members . I’ve been blessed to have multiple 12th house Venusians in my life ; my bf , my nephew, and a few friends and all I have to say is that they are some of my favourite people with the most calming aura that makes you feel safe and loved .

Let me know what ya think and if you have this placement if anything resonates or even if you have any 12th house venusians in your life ! Love you all ✨💜🌈

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8hsaturn · 11 months

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Hi there, I hope you're having a beautiful day, and happy Spring Equinox if you celebrate!

Can you do a full chart reading for me? Or if you can't, unusual aspects etc. in my chart.

A little bit about me: I'm mainly interested in art, literature and music, as well as history and spirituality and the Occult. I hate anything to do with sciences. I'd say that I'm a very dreamy and Neptunian person with quite a bit of Mercury and Uranus energy, but I don't know.

Here's my chart:

Thank you ever so much in advance!! 💕💕

Natal chart reading + Indicators of artistry and creativity in a chart

8h Jupiter (chart ruler) square Neptune: you could have an easy time receiving money from other people, be it gifts and allowance and even inheritance, you could also have a strong intuition and ability to instinctively understand people’s psyches as well as the occult. Could have a desire to learn more about spirituality, the occult, psychology, and any taboo subjects, and your mission in life could be to teach people about these themes. Note that this gift comes “naturally” to you, so you could already understand more about these subjects than most people or take less time assimilating new information. You also daydream a lot and just have a very active imagination. Prone to getting premonitions or having intuitive dreams, could also easily understand subtext or the bigger meaning in media and arts, a good aspect for interpreting poetry and abstract art pieces. Be careful of being swindled or scammed especially when it comes to medical bills and medicine, also watch your spending, especially in matters related to your hobbies and leisure activities, escapism can be helpful but overindulgence can be dangerous. You could have a constant stream of thought and like to consume a lot of content related to dark topics and abstract concepts, so starting a podcast or a blog related to this can be very productive and fulfilling.

Neptune conjunct Chiron in the 12th house: you could’ve had a lifelong struggle with mental illness, and coupled with the heavy piscesian energy, you’re someone who’s very empathetic with heightened sensitivity, and your ability to feel energy and absorb could lead you to need to recharge every so often. From the position of your Mars, you could’ve had to deal with a very tense environment growing up, where you had to be very attuned to your environment in order to survive. You could have a heavy mind and have a tendency to accidentally manifest your fears. Your mission in this life is to understand that you don’t have to always take what others project into you and internalize it, but give yourself the space and boundaries that allow you to cultivate your own identity. You have an instinctual ease with manifestation, so make sure to have a good self-concept no matter how deluded you might think it is because it could end up manifesting into your new reality.

3rd house Gemini Mars conjunct IC: this could indicate having had a hard time in your early school life, perhaps up to middle/high school, you could’ve been picked on/ignored because of your interests, your eccentric personality, or your unpredictable nature. People wanted to box you somewhere and couldn’t and that’s where a lot of animosity towards you came from. You constantly have a whirlwind of thoughts happening in your brain at the same time and might need to watch out for sudden bursts of anger because your words can be very impactful and could trigger wounds in people that they could not even be aware of. Your personal space is also something you’re very protective over, and one you want to reflect your personality and eccentricities. There could be a lot of blue and green aquatic influence, messy but still aesthetically pleasing, you might also think of sharing your home with your soulmate and both of your aesthetics merging together, with your Jupiter 8h in Libra there’s a strong pattern of merging your possessions when in a relationship. Also, a tendency to rant on social media?

Mars square Sun, Mercury, and Uranus: being spiritual and a healer is a very important part of who you are, along with just generally being someone who looks beyond the surface, and when you feel this identity is under attack you could react aggressively. The Mars square Uranus aspect makes you someone who wants to change the world around them, especially in matters of injustice

Sun, Uranus, and Mercury on the Ascendant: and all in Pisces. You could look younger than you really are and have very unique features (anything from wide set/hooded/heterochromia in eyes, wide or small forehead, asymmetry, yaeba teeth…) and could also “look” smart and eccentric, people assume you’re not very regular which might’ve been the cause for animosity when you were younger, but is now a source of secret admiration (12h aquarius venus). You might have a hard time expressing your thoughts when speaking or could have people misunderstand your words and therefore misinterpret your character, and this pushed you to find music and poetry a much better medium for self-expression as your feelings are often times too complex or even singular to express in a regular setting.

6h Saturn opposite 12h Venus: your health could’ve suffered a lot and this might’ve pushed you to pay more attention to things in your daily life that impact your health, be it your eating habits or working out, could also have teeth problems, chest pain, hair loss, or headaches. You might be a big escapist and struggle with caring for yourself in a concrete manner, you could also prioritize others over yourself and struggle with overexerting yourself, please make sure to listen to your needs and practice self-care. You could struggle with body dysmorphia and low self-esteem, words from your early childhood could’ve wounded the way you perceive yourself. A lot of things you heard were just projections, hence why you shouldn’t see those jabs as a fact but a reflection of who said them. Be careful of unbalanced, one-sided relationships where you give without receiving.

Lilith conjunct Descendant in Virgo: you could’ve been wounded by people before and that led you to harbor resentment. You could be a later bloomer on a physical level, and you could run the risk of being manipulated or betrayed by those closest to you which leads you to become more introverted and reserved. Be wary of people projecting their fantasies unto you and expecting you to fit unrealistic ideas, as well as attracting unfaithful or manipulative people. Your close friends and enemies could’ve been the people to criticize your smallest mistake and you could cope with this by dissociating or escapism.

Artistic/creative indicators:

Saturn in Leo in the 5th degree (detriment): you need to trust in your artistic ability enough to discipline yourself and structure your work. You are creative, your entire chart is screaming that healing yourself -and in consequence others- through your art is your purpose in life, so all you’re left to do is put a structure to your art. Define short-term and long-term milestones for yourself and be proud of your development even when you think it’s insignificant because consistency and perseverance in itself is a grand feat. once you lay the grounds for your art to flourish you will see how bright the future that awaits you is.

5th house moon in an Aquarius degree: your sensitivity and reserved nature shine with your art and self-expression, you care for humanity as a collective but also want those closest to you to be happy and loved. Your unique emotional nature is what makes your art stand out and resonate with the masses.

10th house Pluto: you’re here to break structures, to challenge the status quo, and you’re not looking to uphold a correct image just to fit in. People project into you a lot and that’s why their words shouldn’t affect you. Very fame-enhancing placement as you can be very influential and convincing to others. Use your influence wisely.

Pisces mercury in retrograde

Pisces/Gemini/Aquarius/Leo influence

extra note: your hate for science could be explained with Aquarius (science) being in your 12th house (fears)!

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