#unhinged nancy theories

[ethelthebossiny]

What if Hugh Penvellyn actually knew the whole time what Jane was doing, and was totally okay with it because he wants to break up with Linda and get back with Jane's mom??? Hear me out.

EXHIBIT A: We have circumstantial evidence that Hugh Penvellyn might be having an affair with his ex-wife. They were both in Rome at the same time, after Hugh and Linda got married, and it's alllll a little too coincidental. What if Hugh never got over his beautiful opera singing ex-wife, and she decided she wants him back? Now it's awkward, because of course he wants to get back with her, but he just married someone else. It would look much better if Linda had a little breakdown and broke up with him than if he immediately asked for a divorce. I imagine his high society friends would be much less scandalized that way.

EXHIBIT B: It's unlikely that Jane just started being an evil little shit out of nowhere. Executing a plan of this scale, even with Ethel's help (unclear how much she participated), takes skill and patience that is not typical of a tween girl. She's had practice. Hugh could not be blind to the fact that Jane's a bit of a 'prankster', even if this is the most extreme behaviour she's exhibited so far. There's no way she didn't try to mess up the wedding somehow, if she's always hated Linda. He had to suspect that something was likely to happen between them.

EXHIBIT C: He knows that if Jane does try something, there's no one there to stand up for Linda. Mrs. Drake doesn't seem like much of a patient mediator, and Ethel's allegiance is to Jane, not Linda. There are no adults there that are invested in seeing Jane be respectful to her new step-mom, so Hugh knows Jane will probably get away with whatever she tries.

EXHIBIT D: Hugh is conveniently gone a lot, despite the fact that his wife is very distressed and he could afford to take some time off and deal with it. This gives him lots of time to conduct his affair, but also plausible deniability. If he was at the manor, he'd perhaps be expected to do something, but he's not.

EXHIBIT E: According to the letter to Mrs. Drake from the Penvellyn lawyer, if Linda leaves the manor prior to the end of the probationary period, she doesn't get a piece of the pie. It is beneficial to Hugh to get her out before then to avoid legal entanglements.

Therefore, I believe that Hugh is probably aware, or at least suspicious of Jane, but is letting her get on with it because it would benefit him if Linda had a complete mental break and divorced him.

#nancy drew #clue crew #nancy drew games #cur #cur curse of blackmoor manor #blackmoor manor #unhinged nancy theories #conspiracy

[musicalchaos07]

Nancy's with Jonathan because he lets her be Bejeweled

#this is a joke #also unhinged #but welcome to my conspiracy theory that Midnights follows Nancy's s2 storyline PERFECTLY #like a bit too perfectly #i will elaborate if asked #unrelated i miss them #stranger things #jancy #nancy wheeler #jonathan byers #tay

[himynameis4]

Okokok bc this is actually bothering me—did billy hargrove have powers or not?!?!?! Like, first of all, fuck him, but—was he “sensitive”? In the sense that he had, at least, like Terry-Ives-pre-experiment “potential” that could be “activated” by unethical experimentation/electrocution/etc (which is how i understand terry ives’ powers ig). In general, i picture having powers like el’s as a genetic thing that environmental factors—whether during pregnancy/relating to the mother or external factors after the fact—can cause to be “activated” & i use the term “sensitive” to refer to that potential, regardless of strength. I can’t tell jow clear im being rn/if everybody else is on the same wavelength or it i need to give a bunch more context—i’ve seen billy-with-powers stuff but thats most like from fans of billy which…

It would make sense. I’m operating from the standpoint of Will, Barb, & all (or at least some, at least the ones who got the slug treatment & weren’t being eaten asap) of the people “taken” by the demogorgon in season one as likely being “sensitive” in that sense, and i have a whole explanation about that but—

I don’t see the flayed as being the same. The flayed are a stepping stone. Except billy. Billy isn’t mushed into the overall flesh monster. The way billy is controlled is different—if billy is “sensitive,” i don’t think he’s very strong tbh, but he does fight back at the end. Was Heather sensitive, or was it just that El touched her & got inside her head… GAH. i woulda loved to see how much autonomy the other flayed had, the difference between the flayed and will’s experience needs to be elaborated on more bc i have thoughts but i really should just lay them all out & then go & ramble about me theorizing but like—

Max. Max was able to get into Vecna’s mindscape. Vecna was surprised by this. Is this a sign of latent abilities, or a creative use of the human mind that any ordinary person could potentially learn/use? I’m leaning towards the latter tbh.

I don’t think the sacrifices had powers. But i’m trying to figure out the limitations of vecna’s powers. Lucas was correct: all the targets had repressed trauma, something they were trying to hide. But i feel like nancy was an outlier—they were in the upsidedown when she was vecna’d, which you bet your bottom dollar made it easier to “get” her—plus the gates are open. Reaching through time and space and dimensions with no gate and “finding” people is a different matter, & probs a lot harder. What vecna did to nancy is more like what he did to his family, really. But why the obsession with nancy?????? Just because she thwarted him so many times—like MIKE, i might add—or because of something more???

And then vecna/henry has his “i see everything” bullshit but i don’t buy that i think being connected to the hivemind has certain benefits but i think he’s a narcissistic asshole who thinks he’s stronger than he is. Max is right—he sees the darkness. So—if nancy’s an outlier (maybe) then why… what is the unifying factor in the people he saw in his mindspace scene, why is it mostly teens? Bc that unifying factor can’t just be trauma, ALL of the kids have trauma. If we knew what the unifying factor was for the people vecna can “see” in his mind’s eye, that would be another limitation on vecna’s power, and we could rule out some potential targets. Does it have to do with parental neglect/abuse? Generally unhealthy family dynamics? Basically, is vecna seeking out people he can project onto for his sacrifices?

I really truly believe mike was a planned target for henry & that leaving hawkins saved his ass bc targeting mike makes SENSE—but it would be easy to make a different argument & i would buy it, because we DON’T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION. I’ve seen some posts/fics that posit that Henry targeted people with a history of suicidal ideation, passive or otherwise—but we don’t have enough information to make that determination. But there ARE more limits to his powers, too—i don’t think he has much of a reach beyond hawkins, bc of limits of his powers. But THEN, most of this is speculation—i could point to my reasons for thinking these things (i really need to do that at some point) but that doesn’t—all of it could be disproven next season bc it’s too tentative & we don’t know enough.

Okay. Billy. What was the point of this man? What was his function? Why does vecna want another will, bc from my seat he looks kinda like he’s using will as a fill-in for el (smol child to project onto & take over the world with), and for will’s powers. So… will’s function in season 2. Vecna doesn’t want will dead then, we know this, maybe that’s changed since but again, CAN’T SAY EITHER WAY. Billy isn’t killed like the other flayed & made into jello… but having a human is useful for human things? & human things are necessary when one is taking over the world? & billy doesn’t have an easy home life, vecna could very easily be projecting here.

Like genuinely what was the point of them? What is the master plan? I mean i have my Thoughts obviously but then I want to go back & rewatch & gather evidence & refine bc this is Bothering Me.

Idk. @wibble-wobbegong @aemiron-main @bottomlessabyssposts @givehimthemedicine thoughts?

#stranger things #stranger things analysis #will byers #billy hargrove #bill hargrove has powers maybe #max mayfield #may mayfield… probs doesn’t have powers #barbra holland #will byers has powers #barb has powers #barbra holland has powers #stranger things theory #except #it’s more like stranger things unhinged rambling/speculation/questioning #i need answers #henry creel #nancy wheeler #mike wheeler #el hopper #the mindflayer #lots of incoherent thoughts in one very #very long post #in which i jump from topic to topic like a leapfrog #if y’all can translated this nonsense then good on you

[redpusea]

First reaction seeing this! Weeeeee

So I think for sure they’ll be changing the art and the lighting but there are a few things that are standing out to me.

This control machine is amazing, the colours are GIVING. The ongoing colour scheme for Byler - Will being red and yellow and Mike blue and yellow could have some really interesting symbology. (Unhinged theory; Will is stuck in the upside down again and Mike and El are using this to communicate with Will? Or maybe Will and Mike have a job at this radio station, super cute <3).

The green as what I am assuming is the volume or the frequency I’m sure will also play a huge roll as well as the time? Maybe? On the right. (Side note: the radio frequency theories would be really interesting to interconnect here, might come back to this part to link whose theory it be)

AND

This microphone set up… it’s giving Vecna symbolism… and wouldn’t be surprised if they added another one to make it 4…

This could mean Nancy or Mike in my opinion working/being here but at this stage obviously we have no really basis besides speculation and theory, but what do you think?!

#stranger things #byler #st s5 theory #mike wheeler #will byers #st5 leaks #st5 #st5 speculation #stranger things 5

[chamsburger]

this is my first unhinged byler theory

i usually try not to reach but this is just too interesting not to point out

so robin has made it clear multiple times that her and steve are 'platonic with a capital P'

and then i immediately thought of the soundtrack name "The First I love You" which also deals with capitalization?? like the fact that 'love' is lowercase compared to the rest of the words is just odd

and... the song "The First I love You" conveniently plays

when robin came out to steve

when el said "i love you too" to mike and kissed him (he didn't reciprocate the kiss)

mike and el are in love with a lowercase l

just like how steve and robin and are in love with a lowercase l BECAUSE THEYRE NOT IN LOVE!!!!! BECAUSE THEYRE PLATONIC WITH A CAPITAL P!!!!!! BECAUSE ROBIN IS GAY AND MIKE IS GAY AND BYLER IS CANON

ok but on a serious note the correlation between capitalization and a type of relationship is just too odd for it to be a coincidence

IMPORTANT EDIT: so someone pointed out that the song "the first i love you" also plays when joyce and hopper kiss, and when jonathan and nancy kiss. this isn't the song that plays. there is another track called "the first lie" which sounds VERY SIMILAR to "the first i love you". i just listened to the songs back-to-back, and also listened to the jopper kiss, the jancy kiss, mike and el's kiss, and robin's coming out scene.

"The First I love You" IS what plays during mike and el's kiss and robin's coming out scene.

"The First Lie" is what plays during the jancy kiss, and the jopper kiss.

so my theory still stands yall HEHEHE

#byler #mike x will #byler tumblr #byler nation #byler analysis

[reviewdiaries]

Be still my beating heart - examining that Nancy x Ace moment from 4x03

I am a wreck. Sure I went into this episode expecting to have my heart smushed into many tiny pieces, but that just, yeah, I’m going to need some time to recover. This season is unhinged, unhinged I tell you and I am absolutely here for it. It gets long beneath the cut…

We left Nancy and Ace in a cautiously optimistic place at the end of the last episode - a fragile bloom of hope, a desperate shared yearning, finally, finally in the same space of wanting to try. And once Nancy commits to something, she is all in. You see that building all episode, this breathless anticipation and want. Because finally they’re being open with each other, they’re talking honestly about their feelings and it is soft and beautiful, framed in warmer light and lingering looks in place of touch.

I’ve talked before about how the curse is forcing them both into actually talking with each other, and we see that so clearly in the beautiful little moments - how long have they known they liked the other? What do they want to do first when the curse is lifted? It’s intimate and raw and filled with So Much Eye Contact. After so long avoiding how they feel, letting the other one know, acting on it, suddenly we see Nancy and Ace in a much more stable place. Everything is laid bare, and now it’s just the two of them working together to defeat the big bad and it is beautiful to watch. 

GIF Credit  @nacesource

But nothing as beautiful as the moment we’ve all been waiting for, that kiss. You know it’s coming, right from the moment when Bess says early on that they’ll need to activate the curse. The kiss has been a delicious promise hanging over everything. And it’s a study in light. That first breathless almost where they were in near darkness at Icarus Hall, when the work of uncovering their feelings had barely just begun. The soft lamplight of Ace’s apartment as Nancy told him about the parallel timeline, of the kisses and intimacy they shared. And now this. Full, beautiful light, candles everywhere, not a shadow to hide in, nothing but the raw truth on display for everyone.

Ace has been so confident, settled in his feelings, the knowledge that they’re returned. A new stillness that has infused him right from the start, until this moment. Suddenly faced with Nancy in a circle of petals, faced with the reality of her, of this moment, his nerves return. He can’t hold her gaze anymore, suddenly filled with the scent of her shampoo this close, the knowledge that she’s already done this, and maybe he won’t live up to the hallucination - even though it was technically him and he knows it’s ridiculous he can’t help the fear that maybe this will ruin it, somehow this moment, this start, will be the end. 

GIF Credit @nancy-drew

Even as he stammers out an apology, a buffer, a rationalisation for his nerves, he’s reaching for her. He’s held himself in check for so long, laced his hands together to keep from touching her since the last time he tried to kiss her when he was testing his theory, and now finally he can let his desires off their leash and touch her. She’s so beautiful, so steady and sure, she doesn’t look nervous at all and somehow that helps him, as he reaches out to cup her cheek and the side of her neck. 

GIF Credit @nancy-drew

He doesn’t so much draw her to him as use his fingers tangled in her hair to anchor himself to her, stop himself from floating away on the breathless anticipation of finally stepping in and closing that last distance between them. 

GIF Credit @nancy-drew

And at that moment where every other time he’s had to pause, to stop, to back away, Nancy finally reaches for him. Mirroring where his own hand is cradling her face, mouth opening underneath his and god this is so much more than he could ever have imagined. And he has imagined it so much. Hundreds of idle moments in school, washing dishes at the Claw, watching her kiss Park and Gil and wishing so much that it was him she was with. And these last days, after she told him about the parallel timeline and her eyes fluttered shut as she breathlessly recounted kisses and skin and hot murmured words against skin. He can’t help but pull her close, tug her into him so she’s flush against him and he can feel her warm and alive and real. 

GIF Credit @nancy-drew

There’s nothing now for him but her. Nothing but her fingernails scraping through his hair and using it to tug him closer, angle his head to deepen the kiss. Tongue sliding against his, that soft breathless noise he’s heard her make when the pieces slot into place in a particularly difficult mystery, that sound of satisfaction, of a complete whole, of the world tipping back onto its axis. 

GIF Credit @nancy-drew

He never wants to let her go now he’s found this, torn between wanting to cradle her like something precious and fist his hands in her hair to pull her head back for easier access to her neck. Lost in the desperate longing he’s kept so deeply buried for so long and the slow dawning realisation that this is her, this is Nancy, his Nancy, finally in his arm and beneath his lips and god he wants to just live in this moment forever.

GIF Credit @nancy-drew

The sigil burns as the curse fights to take hold, Temperance fighting for control even now, furious at their open defiance. He pulls back slightly, taken aback by the stinging reminder after being so lost in the feel of her. But she follows him and he cannot resist, not now, tugging her in deeper, never wanting this moment to end.

GIF Credit @nancy-drew

For a moment light flares behind his eyelids, but Nancy’s hands are in his hair and pulling him closer to her, and she’s lifting up onto her tiptoes, trying to get closer, closer, always closer. He can feel it in the rapid pulse beneath his fingers, the stuttering inhalations against his cheek. She is as undone by this as he is, ripped open by hope and longing and this sudden freedom to actually touch and taste and love.

GIF Credit @nancy-drew

He doesn’t feel steady on his feet, like the world is spinning and the only fixed point are the ten places he can feel Nancy’s fingers pinning him in place like a trapped moth. The world feels like it’s burning and his chest is burning and suddenly he’s being pushed away from her by the curse exiting him, eyes still closed, like if he just doesn’t open them then he can stay suspended in this moment forever. Lips still seeking hers, brushing his nose against hers to just stay in this moment of being close to her without knowing if it’s worked or not for just a heartbeat longer.

But it’s there and it’s real in a way the abstract thought of it never was, and he still lingers, still holds on to Nancy, his fixed point, his north star, hands on her arms, her fingers, still struggling to catch his breath when Nancy has stolen it so thoroughly, kissed away every thought and feeling beyond the desire to step back in and claim her lips again. 

And it’s beautiful and it’s terrifying and for a moment staring at it Ace is so completely lost, frightened by the enormity of it and the desperate hope that maybe maybe, just maybe, this will work and he can kiss her again in a moment. And as soon as he thinks of her, as soon as he looks at her again, he steadies. Because Nancy is it, she is worth anything, and if this hasn’t worked, if this is his last moment then he will go having finally known what it feels like to kiss her, to pull her close and show her just how much he loves her.

GIF Credit @horseshoe-bay-ledger

But it’s Nancy who crumples into him, and you can see the moment that he knows this hasn’t worked, that this has gone wrong and god damn it he just wants to be with the woman he loves and he could kill Temperance for doing this to them, for causing so much heartache and pain and predicting every way they were going to try and break the curse. But he can’t even allow himself to fully feel that despair and fury before he’s catching Nancy and calling for water and then more panicked for someone to call an ambulance, because he was fully prepared to put his life on the line but never Nancy’s. That was the only reason he pushed so hard, because he knew she’d be safe, that it was all him and he could take that chance if it meant trying, if it meant the chance to finally kiss her lips and pull her close. 

GIF Credit  @livelovecaliforniadreams

But Nancy suddenly pale and unconscious in his arms is terrifying in a way he hadn’t anticipated, hadn’t prepared for in all his musings about hope and trying and dying being worth it. A tiny voice in the back of his head telling him this is why Nancy didn’t want to try, that this was what she’d experienced with him and no it’s too much, too real, too terrifying and why won’t she open her eyes?! 

GIF Credit  @livelovecaliforniadreams

The adrenaline from a few moments ago replaced with something sour and terrifying that makes him want to scream at the world, promise he’ll behave, never push her again, never underestimate how much it hurt, god never kiss her again if she’ll just be ok. Anything, anything, please. Just open her eyes and breathe and tell him she’s ok. He can’t bear the thought of a world without her in it - her smile, her laugh, her brilliant brilliant mind. He’d do anything, rocked by the desperate high to low of having her and losing her and now the memory of their first kiss (their only kiss) will always be entwined with the thought of her limp and lifeless body in his arms, hair spread around them like blood, and the taste of fear in his mouth.

#nancy drew #nancy drew cw #cw nancy drew #nancy drew meta #nancy drew analysis #nancy x ace #ace [redacted] #nancy #nancy drew 4x03 #nancy drew 4.03 #nancy drew spoilers #nace

[in-love-with-loneliness]

Hi this is why I think Eddie is still alive and will come back

Stranger Things introduces two kinds of new characters into the show (besides just general background people). Characters who die and characters who join the main cast. The show also loves to follow patterns in their writing (Joyce having a wild theory, steve being the babysitter)

Eddie does not fit the pattern of a character they kill. He fits a character who joins the group.

Let me explain.

The main character deaths of the show are Benny, Barb, Bob, Alexei, Billy, and Chrissy.

Each of these deaths had a purpose more than just a death. The death itself was a useful writing tool or the character had nowhere to go in the show so the death made sense. Each death directly affected a main character in the party. And there was very clear evidence that that person was dead. Please stay with me, this will all make sense.

Benny

Purpose/need of death: to show how dangerous the people Eleven was running from were.

Death directly affected: Eleven and Hopper.

Evidence of death: we see him get shot and his dead body surrounded by flies.

Barb

Purpose of character: Her character taught us a lot about Nancy. It showed us what kind of girl Nancy had been and we could see by Barb's reaction to Nancy how Nancy was changing and becoming a little rebellious. Its also just a huge part of Nancys story and her drive.

Purpose/need of death: To show how scary and dangerous the upside down was and the creatures who lived there. Will was trapped there but with Barb's death we saw how people could be taken and killed. Her death was also a huge backstory for Nancy and really fueled her to become the bad ass character she is. She started fighting back because of Barb. 

Death directly affected: Nancy

Evidence of death: we see her dead body many times in the upside down and El confirms shes dead.

Bob

Purpose of character: He really helped round out Joyce's character as more than just a mom and gave her another reason to want to fight. It also gave a really good reason in seasons 2 and 3 for Joyce and Hopper not to get together. In 2 she was with Bob and 3 she was mourning him. 

Purpose/need of death: Joyce/Hopper are endgame so Bob wasn't going to stay around. It was a heart wrenching, well done death.

Death directly affected: Joyce

Evidence of death: We see him get eaten.

Alexei

Purpose of character: he was the connection to the russians. He brought comic relief. And his character really showed the great dynamic and team work between Murrey, Joyce, and Hopper.

Purpose/need of death: Again he wasn't going to stick around or join the party. So his death makes sense and was also very emotional.

Death directly affected: Murrey, Joyce

Evidence of death: We see him shot in the chest.

Billy

Purpose of character: I would put Billy in a slightly different category then the other four. He was obviously in the show longer but he still fits all the criteria. His character really had a lot of purpose. He was a great villain and really helped add to several other characters' growth like Max, Steve, and Eleven. Also in the first two seasons Will was the main focus of the mind flayer/Vecna. In this season Will is relatively free and so Billy is the new focus.

Purpose/need of death: some people will not agree but Billy's death was inevitable unless they continued using him as a villain. Just because he saw and experienced what he did it wouldn't have changed what a messed up, angry, unhinged person he was. And by what Eleven saw and his sacrafising himself he got a little redemption.

Death directly affected: Max

Evidence of death: he was impaled by the spider monster.

Eddie

Purpose of character: if Eddie is really dead then the only “purpose” for his character was to affect the audience. The characters who join the party (Murrey, Max, Robin, Erica) are characters written to be likable interesting people of their own. That's their “purpose” in the show. To be a good character. Eddies is not essential to Chrissy's death. Someone else could have witnessed it (steve, nancy, robin) or they could have simply learned about the killings another way. He also isn't used to round out other characters. Mike and Dustin are outcasts but we don't need Eddie to show us that. He meshes so well with all the other characters but his interactions don't teach us anything new about them. He has great interactions with dustin, mike, steve, nancy, robin but it doesnt show us a new side of them or anything we didn't already know. 

Purpose/need of death: there is no purpose for his death. We don't learn any new information because of it. He also didn't need to die because he fits in so well with the party it's just very logical to have him stay.

Death directly affected: Dustin

Evidence of death: yes I know people will argue this. But. Could they write it so that he just passed out and woke back up once Dustin was gone? Yes. Could they have done that with any of the other deaths? No. He appears dead but the show doesnt show us that Dustin checked for a pulse or waited around for a long time. We also know the bats arent  poisonous becasue they bit Steve too. Lots of animals will leave something alone once they think its dead (isnt there a bear your supposed to play dead to get it to leave you alone??) Also we saw no evidence that his body was eaten or torn apart so it could be used (there's a theory of vecna using his body or bringing him back like how El did with Max) 

So who fits all of this criteria in season 4? Chrissy. And there's a very interesting point in this.

Purpose of character: Chrissy shows us what's happening inside people's minds. How vecna is inside their head. And if Eddie is alive she plays a huge role in rounding out his character. 

Purpose/need of death: Sure they could have fit Chrissy into the party but her death is what the whole Eddie/Jason/Lucas storyline is based on.

Death directly affected: This is the point i think is interesting. Who does Chrissy's death affect? All the other deaths have directly affected a main character in the party. And there's only one person who was a part of the party that her death affected. Eddie. Otherside her death only directly affects Jason

Evidence of death: Sadly we see clear evidence of her death in shots of her body and pictures of her autopsy.

Eddie's death would be a huge deviation from the patterns we've seen in the other deaths. It doesn't make sense. It felt forced and unnecessary. We don't see other stuff like that from this show. So why with Eddie? They’re 4 seasons in and have a huge fanbase. They didn't need his death.

Here are the other reasons I think he's alive. 

They could use Eddie's character immensely. What if he has to survive in the upside down? How much knowledge that could bring to everyone and to us about how it works in there. Can you live there? If you're a smart, crafty adult and not a 12 year old kid? How does time work there? Are there other creatures? How big is it? Is it just Hawkins? If they wanted to explore the upside down in that way they wouldn't want to put Steve or Nancy or Hopper in there. It's the last season and they don't want a chunk of time where that person is stuck and alone.

When I think of how badass that would be and how it just seems like something out of an 80s movie I don't see how the writers could not use that. He would be a little more crazy and clothed in makeshift armor and handmade weapons. I mean come on.

The publicity around his character is big. He has posters and art. Action figures and clothing. Joe Quinn was in so many interviews with the rest of the cast. They started an instagram for him which is basically just about Eddie. He only follows a handful of people and most of them are related to Stranger Things. None of this has been done to this extent for any of the other characters who have died. Steve and Bob were on the show longer than intended because they recognised what good characters they were. You don't write a character like Eddie and not know the type of reaction he will get in this world where we all feel like outcasts and “freaks”

(also Eddie The Banished?? Banished to the upside down??)

#stranger things spoilers #stranger things 4 spoilers #stranger things #st4 #st4 spoilers #eddie munson #eddie munson theory #eddie munson is alive #joe quinn #joseph quinn #jo quinn #the duffer brothers #the duffle bags #steve harrington #dustin henderson #nancy wheeler #mike wheeler #lucas sinclair #erica sinclair #will byers #joyce byers #jonathan byers #bob newby #benny #barb #Alexei #billy hargrove #max mayfield #mad max #robin buckley

[louloumae13]

Crazy unhinged theory…Nancy has been in a coma since 4x03. It’s all been a dreamscape. That’s why everyone is weird af. Tristan isn’t real; he is a figment of her imagination (just my imagination). Why we get random little breezes here and there. Why absolutely nothing about the plot from the last few episodes make any sense.

Meanwhile, Ace hasn’t left her side the whole time in the real world.

That’s the only thing I got left. The last little bit of hope I have for this season.

#living that delusional life #can’t be wrong until proven otherwise #nace #ace [redacted] #nancy drew #nancy drew cw #ace x nancy #my emotions #nancy x ace

[thegayhimbo]

Stranger Things Darkness on the Edge of Town Review (Part 1 of 3)

Warning: The following review contains MAJOR SPOILERS from both the book and from Season 4 of Stranger Things!

If you haven’t yet, be sure to check out my other Stranger Things Reviews. Like, Reblog, and let me know what your thoughts are regarding the show or the upcoming season! :)

Stranger Things Comics/Graphic Novels:

Stranger Things Six

Stranger Things Halloween Special

Stranger Things The Other Side

Stranger Things Zombie Boys

Stranger Things The Bully

Stranger Things Winter Special

Stranger Things Tomb of Ybwen

Stranger Things Into The Fire

Stranger Things Science Camp

Stranger Things “The Game Master” and “Erica’s Quest”

Stranger Things and Dungeons and Dragons

Stranger Things Kamchatka

Stranger Things Erica The Great

Stranger Things “Creature Feature” and “Summer Special”

Stranger Things Tie-In Books:

Stranger Things Suspicious Minds

Stranger Things Runaway Max (Part 1 of 3)

Stranger Things Runaway Max (Part 2 of 3)

Stranger Things Runaway Max (Part 3 of 3)

Synopsis: When El discovers a box containing information about a 1977 case from Hopper's time with the NYPD, Hopper is forced to confront his past as he recalls his hunt for a dangerous serial killer with connections to the Occult......

Observations:

When I was in middle school, I remember writing a story that had a similar structure to this book: It started out as a normal case-of-the-week mystery usually found on Police Procedurals or even in detective novels like Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys. Later on, said mystery would turn out to be just the tip of the iceberg to a far more insidious conspiracy that threatened the protagonists lives and everything they cared about.

Looking back years later, I have enough writing experience now to recognize my story was juvenile and riddled with plot-holes and other elements that didn't make sense. Still, I was a fan of escalating things in a story to make the villains threatening, and I still get a thrill whenever I see that element in movies, or read about it in books. In a way, Stranger Things is like that: What once was a mystery regarding the disappearance of Will Byers has now evolved into a battle between the main characters and a deranged psychopath who's leading his army of monsters to destroy the world.

Darkness on the Edge of Town is similar: It starts out as a case about an unhinged serial killer, only to take a hard left turn about a fourth of the way in and reveal that the threat posed is greater than Hopper could have imagined. The pacing for this book is brisk, the suspense is tight, and I managed to re-read the entire book in two days.

Like my previous reviews, this will be split into several parts regarding characters and social issues covered in the book. There's also a potential gold-mine here for theories about Season 5 (particularly in relation to the main antagonist and his possible connection to the Upside Down), and I plan to discuss those in-depth.

Part 1: El and Hopper

The narrative structure for this book is similar to the movie The Princess Bride in that the main story (Hopper's time with the NYPD in 1977) is within another story (Hopper celebrating Christmas with Eleven in 1984). Like the Grandfather from the movie who reads to his grandson, Hopper tells El about living in New York City, and a case he worked on back then. However, unlike the Grandfather, Hopper is initially reluctant to talk about it because of how violent it was, and it's only from El's prodding that he finally does.

Multiple times, the books cuts between Hopper's memories of the case in 1977 and his conversations with El in the present. El usually inquires about certain events that happened during the case, and tries to learn more about Hopper himself. There's even a scene where (at El's insistence) Hopper spoils a part of his tale to inform her that someone he personally knew from the story survived. It's a lot like when the Grandfather from The Princess Bride reveals to his grandson that Buttercup doesn't get eaten by the shrieking eels before the audience gets to see that scene for themselves. Cheeky! 😂

The passages between El and Hopper work because they help give insight into how Hopper views El, and they also allow El to get to know Hopper a bit better. Take for instance when El questions Hopper about Vietnam and Hopper's reasons for not wanting to talk about it:

Or the reasons why Hopper became a cop, and El piecing together what that entails:

El knew about Hopper's job as a cop (as evidenced by what she tells Kali in season 2), but I don't think she ever truly thought about what that meant for Hopper and the danger he subjected himself to on multiple occasions. In this story, she's getting a better picture of what Hopper's experienced in his lifetime. She's also beginning to realize how much Hopper sacrificed when he took her in despite knowing it could cost him everything.

On top of this, El demonstrates an emotional intelligence about certain situations Hopper talks about. One example is when Hopper discusses his partner, Rosario Delgado, and the sexism/racism she faced initially when she joined Brooklyn's 65th Precinct. El initially doesn't know the words, but she understands immediately that they way some of the men treated Delgado was wrong:

I remember a few years ago receiving a profoundly stupid comment from a Billy stan trying to justify Billy's bigotry by claiming the reason El didn't grow up bigoted is because she didn't know words like racism, sexism, abuse, and so on. Putting aside the brain-dead logic behind that statement, just because El didn't know those words doesn't mean she was incapable of understanding on an emotional level when people were being mean and prejudicial to others. El's greatest trait is that she's empathetic (even towards people like Vecna who don't deserve it) and she can pick up quickly when others are being mistreated and recognize that it's wrong. She did it with Mike in season 1 when Mike tells her about how he's been bullied, and she even had empathy for the kids at the lab who were slaughtered by Vecna despite the cruel way they treated her. That is not something Brenner or anyone else had to teach her. She already knew on an intrinsic level what bigotry was, and implying that El is too stupid to understand that because she doesn't automatically know certain words is insulting beyond belief.

Same principle applies for the fans who make asinine excuses for all the bullying Angela and her friends engaged in by claiming they're children who don't better and need adults to supervise them:

Unlike Hopper's daughter Sara, Angela is NOT a 6 year old who needs mommy and daddy to hold her hand and explain to her the difference between right and wrong. She knew perfectly well that her treatment of El in season 4 was vicious, and she chose to do it anyway because she could get away with it and felt justified in doing so. She is absolutely responsible for what she does, and claiming that she isn't is not only an idiotic take devoid of reason, it's that kind of mentality that leads to people enabling the worst of someone's behavior to the point they becomes narcissistic, self-righteous bullies. Angela lacks empathy. Same with Billy. They know their behavior is hurtful and wrong, and they don't care.

If someone like El, who was raised as a laboratory experiment with the intention of being molded into a weapon against the Soviets, was brutally bullied most of her life, and got manipulated by two different psychopaths who were using her for their own ends, is still capable of being empathetic towards others after all of that, then there aren't any excuses for how Angela and Billy behave. They are terrible people who deserve to be held accountable for their actions, and I have no patience for those who choose to make apologies for them.

Adding on to this, I know there's a perception that because El got bad grades in school when she was in Lenora, it meant she wasn't as intelligent as her peers. There's even a scene on the show where El's math teacher is dismissive of her after she gets another F in class and condescendingly tells her they'll talk after break while offering no means to help her. I also see fans apply this logic to characters like Eddie (who also got bad grades) and Steve (who wasn't able to get into college).

I could do an entire separate post about how the U.S. Education system is a poor measurement for intelligence in an individual, but I will say that just because the three of them struggled in school doesn't mean they weren't smart. Eddie simply didn't care about grades, and put more energy into learning D&D lore and playing guitar because that's what interested him (look at how quickly he learned "Master of Puppets" by Metallica on his guitar between the time the album came out and the night of his concert in the Upside Down). Steve isn't brushed up on certain topics, but he does make connections that other people miss (like the music he hears in the Russian recording in S3, or him questioning why Vecna stopped killing after 1959 and only started again recently). El by comparison is capable of learning, but because of her upbringing in the lab, it takes a little longer since she's stunted. Hopper acknowledges this in the book, and privately expresses his disgust for what Brenner did to her:

This is why, for all of his flaws, I like how Hopper teaches El: He works with her in the ways she needs to be able to develop. She learns at her own pace, and Hopper never makes her feel dumb for doing so. Regardless of whether this was unintentional, the book (and the show to some extent) make an inadvertent argument in favor of homeschooling as a better means of teaching someone compared to the school system's method of expecting everyone to be on the same level and punishing those who aren't.

Getting back to Hopper and El, at this point in the story, following the events of season 2, they have a better understanding of one another. Hopper trusts that El will be able to handle how graphic his backstory was, and El trusts Hopper to be honest with her and support her.

I also like how they referenced the game of Hungry Hungry Hippos that Hopper got El for Christmas, as well as the walkie-talkie her friends bought her. It's something that's depicted in the Winter Special, and I'm glad they kept track of that continuity nugget.

I also appreciate the acknowledgement in-universe from Hopper that, as much as he misses Sara, he recognizes El is a different person from her. She reminds him of his daughter, but he's trying not to project his idea of Sara onto El while he raises her.

I know in past reviews I've talked about characters who may die in season 5, but I doubt Hopper and El are on that list. They've already done two fake-out deaths for them (once for El in S1 and once for Hopper in S3), which gives the impression that if the writers wanted either of these characters dead, they would have killed them off already. They will likely survive to the end.

El's story in season 5 will likely be about stopping Vecna, but I'm curious if they're going to bring back the Russians again and Hopper will be stuck dealing with them at the same time as Vecna's invasion. There's a lot of unresolved questions surrounding this arc (like how the Russians found out about the Gate in the first place, how they were planning to weaponize the UD monsters, etc), and it's likely the KGB aren't going to let the damage at Kamchatka go unpunished. They'll either come after Hopper and his loved ones for retribution, or they'll try to restart their operation in Hawkins now that Vecna's gate is wide open for the time being.

On top of that, I'm curious what El's future looks like post-Vecna and the UD. Now that Hopper is back in her life, will she go back to being home-schooled by him? I can't imagine she's in a rush to return to Lenora with how viciously she was treated by her peers there, and she arguably might develop better without having to attend public school. There's also the question about her powers: Will she still keep them by the end of the show, or will something happen that will cause her to become ordinary again? I know they've already played that arc out in season 4, and they might avoid going there again for the sake of repetition. Still, if my theory is correct about the UD being connected to the powers El and Vecna have, and that the death of Vecna means the death of everything in the UD because of how he's used the Mind Flayer to intertwine himself into the hive mind, it could end up having an effect on El's powers going forward.

But this is all speculation. Whether they'll go that direction remains unknown as of now.

Part 2: Hopper's Case

When Hopper's case occurs, it's been 5 years since he moved away from Hawkins to New York City. This happens after Hopper came back from serving two tours in Vietnam, and was looking for a new purpose in his life. Quiet suburban Hawkins didn't sit right with him at the time, and he ended up convincing his then-wife Diane to move their family to the Big Apple.

In many ways, this is reflective of Hopper's character on the show: When he doesn't have some kind of purpose driving him forward, it's like he doesn't know what to do with himself. When I first saw Stranger Things, I thought that the less appealing aspects of Hopper's character (sleeping around with multiple women, constantly drinking, gaining weight from eating junk food in S3, etc) were just personality quirks of being a jaded washout. Having rewatched the show again (and read this book), I'm starting to see how those elements are symptomatic of PTSD and depression on his part. It's like he has to have something (or in the case of his family and friends, someone) to anchor to in order to have stability in his life. He even discusses this with Enzo/Dmitri when they're being held at Kamchatka:

From "The Nina Project" (Season 4, Episode 5):

Hopper: After that, I was just...I just hid myself in drugs and alcohol. And then people started coming into my life. This girl, El, and Joyce just happened, and I told myself they needed me. But that wasn't true. That's a lie. They didn't need me.............I needed them.

NYC is where he wanted to be at the time, and this case ended up being his big break.

The case itself begins as a simple hunt for a serial killer: Three victims (Jonathan Schnetzer, Sam Barrett, and Jacob Hoeler) who are stabbed in a way to form a five-pointed star on their chests while the killer leaves a calling-card behind:

Each of the murders are done in a ritualistic way, and the cards are later revealed to be Zener cards, which were created for use in experiments related to clairvoyance:

Things get complicated when the FBI (led by Agent Gallup, whom Hopper has a contentious relationship with) take over the investigation. Upset over this, and believing there's more they can learn from the case, Hopper and Delgado go behind their superior's back to find out more about the circumstances regarding the deaths of these men.

However, everything takes a sharp left turn when a gang-member named Leroy Washington comes to Hopper and promises to give him information about a cult leader in exchange for protection and getting his sister, Martha, safely out. He then gives Hopper a Zener card, similar to the ones found at the crime scenes, causing Hopper to realize that said cult leader (named Saint John) is behind the killings, and is planning something terrible:

I'm not spoiling much here by revealing who the killer is since the book unveils it within the first 110 pages. The remaining 300+ deal with Hopper working to stop Saint John before he enacts a plan that threatens the safety of NYC and its citizens.

When I discussed escalation in a story at the beginning of this review, this is what I was talking about.

Saint John acts as a cross between Charles Manson and Jim Jones. I wouldn't even be shocked if the author, Adam Christopher, drew inspiration for Saint John from these real-life cult leaders. Saint John prophecies an apocalypse, where Satan will come to New York City, sweeping darkness over the land, to claim his throne. To this end, he begins to build an army of followers by assimilating the various gangs of New York City into one organization called the Vipers, and having his acolytes poach various support groups (AA meetings, Veterans groups, etc) to recruit more followers.

At one point, Hopper is forced to go undercover as a cop on the run to infiltrate Saint John's organization to find out what his master plan is so the FBI knows how to stop it. When he actually meets Saint John for the first time, it becomes apparent to Hopper how both of them are uncannily similar:

Both men served in Vietnam, and both came back looking for a purpose in their lives. Hopper found his as a cop. Saint John found his as the leader of a cult.

The creepiest part is that, for all of Saint John's planning, his organization, his recruitment, his stockpiling of weapons and rations, his coordinated attack, his ideology.......................he actually believes what he's preaching. Hopper eventually realizes something happened to Saint John in Vietnam that made him this way. He is correct, but not in the way he thinks.

Part 3: Saint John's connections to the Upside Down

Towards the end of the novel, Saint John drops a bombshell about his time in Vietnam and what he was doing there:

While the book doesn't ever mention Dr. Brenner by name, it's possible the experiments done to Saint John in Vietnam were similar to the ones he did at Hawkins Lab, from the psychedelics he gave Terry Ives and other test subjects, to orchestrating El's birth and the creation of the other special children who were bred as weapons against the Soviets. Brenner may not have even had to be in Vietnam at the time. This could have been another branch of the U.S. government conducting similar experiments on soldiers to make them more efficient in the Cold War.

In any case, the insidious implication is that whatever they did to Saint John, it gave him a glimpse of the Upside Down and may have put him in contact with a malevolent force from the other side:

I've proposed a theory several times in my reviews of Six and Suspicious Minds that, in addition to the Upside Down being linked to the powers that El and Vecna have, the psychedelics given to the test subjects in the experiments may act as a telekinetic gateway between this world and the Upside Down. If Saint John was being experimented on in a similar way to the test subjects at Hawkins Lab, he could have seen the Upside Down in its original form (similar to how Vecna saw it when he was first sent there) and believed the place was Hell. It would explain why his entire cult is centered around the idea of Satan coming and darkness spreading across the world. There's also the bit he tells Hopper about hearing a voice that he attributes to Satan, but may have been some otherworldly force from the UD.

I know this book was written and published in 2019, two months before season 3 premiered, and that this book takes place 2 years before El would banish Vecna to the UD, but it should be noted that this book was overseen by Paul Dichter, who has been a writer for the show since season 1. If he's willingly giving information to the authors who pen these tie-in books about the mythology of the show and its characters, then it's likely these are ideas that have been discussed in length in the writers room. One of those ideas might have been a malicious force that powers and operates in the Upside Down which can influence people.

It makes me wonder if that same force reached out to Henry/One/Vecna as a child at the Creel House, did something that activated his powers, and acted as an influence on him (I say this not as a way to excuse all the terrible things Vecna has done, but to give one possible explanation as to how he became as psychologically messed up as he is).

On top of that, Saint John's killings and ideology is eerily similar to Vecna's: Both of them gruesomely murder selected people as part of a grander ritual. Vecna kills four teens (Chrissy, Fred, Patrick, and Max) to open a huge gate in Hawkins and invade with his army of monsters. All four teens are referred to as "sacrifices" by Vecna, and there's even been theories drawn by other fans (such as @itsanotheridiot and @dis-a-ppointment) that the victims chosen by Vecna each represented one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. By comparison, Saint John goes after 5 different victims to "summon the veil of shadow over the earth" and tells Hopper that Satan (or whomever was speaking to Saint John) showed him how to prepare the rituals:

Unlike with Vecna, it's ambiguous if Saint John's ritual would have worked, or if this was a part of his psychosis. If it's the latter, it still doesn't deter from how he had enough of a grip on reality to organize an army under his command, cause a city-wide blackout, and unleash destruction that cost lives. If it's the former, it makes me question if Vecna has a similar voice in his head, directing him like a puppet in part of a greater conspiracy, with that voice coming from somewhere the Upside Down. And unlike with Saint John, this voice succeeded with Vecna, and now has the means to unleash destruction upon Hawkins and beyond.

I'm sure Vecna will continue to act as the main antagonist in season 5 because of how integral he is to all the terrible things that have happened to the main characters, but there's still more about the Upside Down (and Vecna himself) that needs explanation, and there are probably far worse monsters in there than Demogorgons or Demodogs.

To Be Continued In Part 2............

#stranger things #jim hopper #el hopper #vecna #number 1 #henry creel #stranger things darkness on the edge of town #stranger things reviews #stranger things meta #tgh opinions #tgh reviews #angela stranger things #anti billy hargrove #the upside down #paul dichter #saint john #leroy washington #rosario delgado #adam christopher

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Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) went on a bizarre tangent after she was called out for lying about her past comments suggesting the Parkland, Florida, school shooting was staged.

During an interview with CBS News’ Lesley Stahl broadcast Sunday on “60 Minutes,” Greene was asked for her stance on the 2018 massacre, which left 17 students and staff dead. Two years before she was elected to Congress, Greene responded to a comment on Facebook calling the shooting a “false flag” operation.

But when asked about it by Stahl, Greene tried to rewrite history.

“I never said Parkland was a false flag,” Greene said. “No, I’ve never said that. School shootings are horrible. I don’t think it’s anything to joke about.”

As she was speaking, “60 Minutes” showed a screengrab of Greene’s now-deleted 2018 Facebook comment.

“We fact-checked,” Stahl replied. “Before I got to this interview.”

Greene offered a word-salad comeback, derailing the discussion.

“Have you fact-checked all my statements from kindergarten through 12th grade and in college? And as I’ve paid my taxes and never broken a law, and the only, I got a few speeding tickets, do we need to talk about those too?” she said. “Because I think where you’re going down is the same attacks that people have attacked me with over and over.”

Stahl didn’t challenge Greene further.

Greene, a Trump-supporting firebrand who was the first open supporter of the QAnon conspiracy theory to be elected to Congress, has on multiple occasions endorsed conspiratorial nonsense about school shootings and was filmed in 2019 harassing a Parkland victim who advocates for gun control.

In another 2018 Facebook comment section unearthed by the Media Matters for America watchdog, Greene responded “this is all true” to a user who said that “none of the School shootings were real or done by the ones who were supposedly arrested for them.”

Greene, during her “60 Minutes” interview, tried to shift blame for her past social media activity, suggesting that “other people also ran my social media” when she liked a 2019 comment suggesting Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) should get a bullet to the head. (Greene was not a member of Congress in 2019.)

Even if that were the case, Greene has publicly alluded to her belief that school shootings are staged. Last year, Greene suggested in a video that the July 4 shooting in Highland Park, Illinois, was orchestrated “to persuade Republicans to go along with more gun control.”

CBS News faced significant backlash over the weekend for interviewing Greene and giving a platform to her dangerous rhetoric. Following the release of the sit-down, Stahl was criticized for allowing Greene to hijack the conversation, failing to adequately call out the lawmaker’s false claims, and normalizing the extremist’s unhinged behavior.

“I have known Lesley Stahl for more than 40 years, worked alongside her for many election weeks. She has been a great journalist, but this is a disgraceful, cringeworthy performance. Shameful to the max,” tweeted Norman Ornstein, an emeritus scholar at the American Enterprise Institute.

“This is even worse than I thought it would be,” wrote The Atlantic staff writer Tom Nichols. “Imagine getting outflanked by MTG, whose answer was ‘what, are you going to go back to everything I’ve said and done since kindergarten’ and Stahl just took it.”

#us politics #news #huffington post #2023 #rep. marjorie taylor greene #60 minutes #cbs news #parkland shooting #mass shootings #gun violence #gun control #republicans #conservatives #gop #gop policy #gop platform #Lesley Stahl #facebook #conspiracy theorists #qanon #twitter #tweet #brian krassenstein #Media Matters for America #Norman Ornstein #Tom Nichols

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what would flayed!nancy look like?? 🤔

wild, unhinged, enraged, cheeks smudged with dirt and blood and hands constantly itching for a gun--Vecna wants to point it at the others, she wants to point it at herself

....but to be completely honest, i don't really think flayed!nancy could work. it ties into my theory that nancy is one of the characters least likely to die in s5. they need her too much. if nancy dies i'm not sure the group will be able to win, y'know? she's always been in the heart of the fight, and while she was doing her own thing in s1 and s2, she's the clear leader in s3 and especially s4. she's arguably the most powerful character that doesn't have superpowers--the only other contender is hopper, who almost always has more resources at his disposal than nancy.

anyway the point is that, despite what the antis think, nancy is fundamental to the group's chances of success. not only is she insanely smart, ruthlessly determined, and good with any weapon you put in her hands, but she's also a central (albeit unappreciated) pillar to the group. she's mike's sister. the boys have all known her forever. el at least lowkey admires her and max clearly trusts her and thinks to turn to her in a crisis. steve and jonathan have feelings for her. she and robin are friends, as in, officially. she's even one of hopper's earliest partners, the one he trusts to toss a gun to, and she was murray's tie into the truth of what was happening. if nancy is compromised, everyone is devastated, and personally i don't think it's something they can recover from

basically tl;dr unless it's a last minute sacrifice play (which is honestly more likely to happen to el or steve imo) i don't think you can take nancy out of the picture and still have the group realistically win

#this is NOT what you asked for anon i'm sorry #tbh flayed!nancy would be fascinating and devastating af and i'd read the hell out of it #but i cannot actually fathom it happening lmao #i mean...who in the world would hit nancy with a white hot firepoker???? #not the kids obvi. steve would never. jonathan couldn't do it to will he wouldn't be able to for nancy either #as much as i'd like to think robin would idk.... #maybe hopper lmao give mike another reason to hate him #actually i lied mike would probably do it but that'd be so lackluster #okay i'm done now #asks #anon #flayed!nancy

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from 1/2/24 ...Rolling Stone article...

"Attempts to drag Nancy Pelosi into court to berate her on the stand and, hopefully, on live TV. Claims that the Jan. 6 Capitol attack was an FBI frame job, with an assist from Antifa. Conspiracy theories that the 2020 election was indeed “stolen,” supposedly backed up by still-classified documents. Unhinged assertions that President Joe Biden is now secretly, personally orchestrating an unprecedented act of political persecution. Calls to publicly unmask the federal officials and lawyers investigating the former (and perhaps future) president of the United States. Efforts to blame any illegality on some of the ex-president’s closest confidants and former legal allies. Insinuations of election meddling by the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah. 

These are just some of the items that former President Donald Trump and his lawyers have been discussing and planning to deploy when he goes on trial for his efforts to steal the 2020 election. The brewing defense strategy is outlandish and feral, even by Trumpland standards, to the point that it’s baffling some of the ex-president’s former lawyers and senior administration officials...."

read it all

#january 2 2024 article in the rolling stone magazine re trump #defense strategies for january 6 2020 election interference to be 'outlandish and feral' ...

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STRANGER THINGS - Eddie Munson Theories

SPOILERS AHEAD DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVEN’T SEEN SEASON 4 OF STRANGER THINGS

Disclaimer - I haven’t looked up any theories, these are both of my own creation and if you have seen or written similar ones then we must share braincells

I Love Eddie Munson, I also kind of relate to Eddie Munson, so obviously I was heartbroken when he ‘died’ but... what if he didn’t?

THEORY 1 - THE POSSIBLE ONE

Okay so this first one is relatively plausible. After Eddie’s ‘death’ it cut away to 2 days later, so what could’ve happened in that time? Robin, Nancy, and Steve find Dustin crying over Eddie’s body. Nancy checks his pulse to realize that he’s not quite dead, even though his pulse is incredibly weak. Steve carries Eddie out of the portal just because there’s that little bit of hope that he might survive.

Meanwhile El just finished her fight with Vecna and bringing Max back. She realizes she needs to go back in to check on Dustin and the others to make sure they’re okay so she does and she sees Dustin sobbing his eyes out over Eddie while they try desperately to treat his wounds and wake him up. El thinks If she can heal someone once she can do it again right? So she remembers what she did with Max and harnesses that same power to help her friends friend who obviously means a lot to them.

Eddie takes a breath in a ‘miracle’ he’s incredibly out of it. They bandage him up, talk him through it, painkillers, take care of him, lot’s of tears too y’know as you do when your friend almost dies. Then they make a pact. Nobody can know Eddie is alive, he would hide out and pretend he’d died in the earthquake since he was still a wanted serial killer. Nobody except for them would know; Their ‘little secret’. Dustin talking to Eddie’s uncle is actually him internally struggling with whether to tell him the truth or not, instead of being sad about his death, he’s sad that he has to lie to Eddie’s family.

THEORY 2 - THE UNHINGED ONE

Hear me out- This one is unhinged as all hell. El and Vecna have relatively similar abilities and theoretically can do the same things. We recently learned that El has the ability to start a stopped heart. So then that means that if Vecna wanted to he could bring someone back. One of Vecna’s flaws is that he only has the ability to access the real world through dreams, so maybe he needs a vessel, a body that he could use to access the ‘rightside up.’

Now where’s he going to find a viable vessel in the upside down? I know this is way out of wack but... Eddie Munson. Jason (aka the annoying jock that died last minute) kept saying Eddie was a ‘vessel’ for the devil but what if that wasn’t true- YET. Look I hate Jason just as much as the next guy but this could be a way for the ridiculous things he said to have a real meaning.

If Vecna and El have the same powers than Vecna could bring Eddie back and maybe not even with that much effort considering he has a lot more control over his powers even if he doesn’t have as much raw talent as El. Eddie played “Master of Puppets” as his final song so what if he became the puppet? only to eventually overcome the inner evil with the help of the ‘gang’. Also imagine Joseph Quinn playing Vecna pretending to be Eddie- Need I say more? I know this theory has a very slim chance of being even a little bit right but my brain won’t let this shit go.

If you read this far, thank you for indulging in my revisit of this hyperfixation. Also I would love to hear others thoughts on these theories and their own- or y’know if you just wanna believe Eddie is dead than- you do you ig.

#stranger things #stranger things theory #stranger things 5 #eddie munson #joseph quinn #hyperfixation #writeblr #writing #it's very late for me rn but I couldn't get this outta my head #it's been over a week since I rewatched it #what's wrong with me

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Hey what happened to your Billy and Harringrove takes? you're very missed in the fandom. I hope you are doing great! <3

it actually went nowhere!, most of the stuff i wrote about him and said ship its on my archived previous blogs. will try to link them here soon

while billy is and will always be one of my all time favorite characters, my interest on being in that and harringrove's fandom here on tumblr died after seeing almost every single person there despises nancy for all the sexist and invalid reasons to exist. it very reminds me of the vitriolic hate skyler white till this day gets on the breaking bad fandom.

i simply can't relate with that. i can't associate with people with such vile and closed minded views in which, based only on their personal bias, decide that characters like canon steve who have done much worse stuff than nancy ever did, deserve the nuance view while they decide nancy is only worthy of villain or said ship mlm rival narratives.

i got fed up of seeing unhinged and ridiculous things like the theories of her being a republican just because k*ren is, her being homophobic, the false cheating claims, her being blamed for barb's death, her ''abusing'' barb and committing hate crimes, her ''abusing'' steve or mike and even her being racist.

those things got so tiring for me to watch and a huge chunk of the harringrove content is purely based on that hate towards her. no one is forced to like or defend her in canon because shes a girl, yes i get that and i accept it. but if they're gonna get critical of her, at least do it for all the right and existing reasons. i also got tired of billy fans who give max the villain narrative and even go as far as blaming her for his death or being happy about what happened to her towards the end of S4 as 'karma for not doing enough to save him'. that has never rubbed the right way to me and never will.

they can't call out the sexism hate and harassment gvd gets from the delusional joe q, eddie and steddie fans when they're pretty much doing the same exact bullshit in different patterns lmfao. selective hate and pseudo criticism at its finest.

the discomfort, discourage, disservice and deception this have caused me have made me lose all the mental and emotional energy i once had to engage in said tumblr fandoms. sadly this is the main reason why i'm not there anymore as much as i once was. not to mention that i feel like frankly, a lot of my interest on ST is slowly fading away. i'm hyped to see the upcoming projects of a lot of the cast tho. specially dacre, joe k, francesca, natalia, grace, sadie, eduardo and charlie.

i will still appreciate billy regardless if my presence in said spots is no longer there.

aww you're so kind yes i've been okay. its just been a crazy and heavy year for me so far in the financial, mental and emotional ways. but i'm hanging on. i hope you're great as well <3

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[madamspeaker]

So yeah, Elon Husk (spelling deliberate), the soul-less hair plug wearing ghoul that now owns Twitter, is posting conspiracy theories about the attack on Paul Pelosi. The right-wing is shameless.

I don’t know why it is so fucking hard for people to take a moment and just think through the info that we have so far. Has there ever been any suggestion in the past that Paul had an eye for the gents? No. And one assumes that Fox and the NY Post would have been on the look out for even a whiff of such if they had thought it all likely in the decades before now. Likewise this past summer when it was insinuation central that Paul had an eye for the ladies without so much even a whiff of that being the case in all the years before.

Common sense tells us, and I would imagine it’s something that the immediate family of high profile targets are taught too, that when confronted with someone unhinged and armed, the best course of action is to remain as calm as possible, to try and talk them down - to approach them as you would a wounded wild animal. It sounds like Paul did exactly that - pretended to cooperate, rather than be aggressive in response. It’s probably what allowed him to talk his eventual attacker into letting him use the bathroom to get to the phone. Instead of course the right-wing has gone for the most nonsensical, and trashy sounding scenario that they can think of - one that in their heads humiliates Nancy, and taints the LGBTQ community - two of the right’s favorite targets for abuse. And now we have Elon Hair Plugs Muck tweeting this shite too.

An 82 year old man was nearly murdered by a guy who turned up looking to torture and murder his wife, and instead of being horrified that this is now the state of politics in America, instead stopping and thinking “Jesus Christ, what brought us to this?”, the right-wing has dreamed up a batshit scenario that they think justifies the attempted murder.