#to redeem him from the keeley kiss???

[jazzellow]

current review of season 3 as of now

#ted lasso #ik ppl dont like seeing complaints in the tags so im very sorry i just dont know where else to express this #the nice thing about this season is tht i finally dont feel queerbaited #like i dont think ive watched a show that reassured me that the gay glances are in fact gay #but everything else feels so ???????????????????????????? #why is teds wife written like an NPC #why does nate need a love interest #to redeem him from the keeley kiss??? #why are we adding all these characters and not focusing on the existing ones #why does a plotline begin and then pause to introduce another plotline and now i have to follow fifty plots #and that speech that ted made was contradictory #he says believe in urself and believe in ur team #but the coaches sure as hell didnt believe in them when they made zava do all the work #very confusing writing for suuuure

[fanficfanattic]

L & X

L: Say something genuinely nice about a character who isn’t one of your favs.

Okay, this is gonna be weird. Because it is (kind of) Nate Shelley from Ted Lasso. But like, only a certain version of him. So, like I said, I know this is weird.

He was a mostly unexpected villain. Like you can see hints of a deeper anger that he hasn’t felt able to express. It’s one of the reasons he resonates with Roy, right? That he can see the existence of his anger and the flow of it almost like ley lines.

So, we never actually see Nate being, like, particularly kind, right? And we see him revel in humiliating Colin. But Colin bullied him so…it’s good? But then it’s people who didn’t bully him. And then it’s people who were good to him.

I think his initial response to Rebecca before he realized he was being promoted was such a telling thing about the anger he had bottled up. Before being promoted, having his strategy acumen being appreciated, he didn’t think he could express it. Like Jamie was a footy god so he could (to Nate’s mind, no one else) but once he achieved that status…I dunno. He felt like it was his right?

But interestingly, he never takes this anger out on Jamie. Maybe it is belief in the Footy God. Maybe he appreciates that Jamie apologized and made amends and did the work. But Nate was there at Wembley. Revealing Jamie’s dad was abusive? That Jamie had seemingly always just taken it before then? He could have destroyed Jamie. So maybe it was the fact that they had shitty dads that spared him.

Or all of it, honestly. And that’s what made his Ted betrayal so nuanced. So interesting. So unexpected that it took people by surprise.

Before that, people seemed to see him as kind of a lovable loser. Which was part of that anger, right? He kissed Keeley, and expected Roy to be furious at him, but Roy never saw him as a threat. He wasn’t Roy’s equal. He got an “its okay buddy” head pat. And like On God he was going to make them take him seriously!

But he isn’t actually a villain any more than season one Jamie was. (They were almost inverted, honestly.) Which made for exceptionally compelling story telling. He was frustrated and hurt and he was becoming the exact same as the people who made him feel that way. At first, he loved that change. Reveled in the power. But he started to feel the loneliness of that position.

Again, I’d argue that’s another Jamie mirror. He had to hit rock bottom before he realized that he actually didn’t like this particular hole he’d put so much effort into digging.

And then he had to put an equal or greater amount into digging himself out of it. He earned his redemption. And that was a sign of respect to his character. No one gave him a free pass and he’d have resented it if they did.

But the last two episodes doubled down on the Nate is a Woobie concept. My distaste isn’t about the fact that he didn’t “earn his redemption” (though he did not, never even asked for forgiveness). It’s that he never earned their respect. Which he should have.

He was a brilliant fucking “villain”. I wanted him to be redeemed! But the Nate they gave us at the end is who I don’t like. And my genuinely nice to him comment is that he deserved better. All the pieces were there and the writers were cowards.

X: A trope which you are almost certain to love in any fandom.

Found Family! The idea that we aren’t beholden to the chaos of random birth. You’ve probably heard “blood is thicker than water” but that leaves off the actual intended meaning.

Blood is thicker than the water of the womb.

The people we choose to be with us, who we shed blood and tears for on purpose, they are your actual people. You can love your blood family, sure. But you can make your love family. And I fucking love that.

#jamie tartt #ted lasso #roy kent #nate shelley #nathan shelley #tw james tartt

[singofsolace]

Ted Lasso 3x10 "International Break" Thoughts

This episode finally felt a bit more like what I would expect from a "final" season. I was still shocked by the conspicuous lack of Ted in a show called Ted Lasso... but the tone felt so much closer to the first season than any of the latest season 3 episodes have felt.

I loved that it was confirmed that Rebecca has anxiety. When she placed her hands on her chest, as if in pain, I felt validated in assuming before now that she gets panic attacks herself. The scene in front of the mirror was incredibly powerful. I was proud of her for standing up to Edwin Akufo, though I was incredibly worried when Rupert and Rebecca were the last ones in the room. I actually yelled, out loud, at my computer screen: "no no NO!" when he went to kiss her. Thank god she stopped him.

The Keeley storyline was interesting. I liked her scene with Mae, and was excited to see Barbara willing to stay and work for her in the end. Rebecca financing the firm feels a bit like a deus ex machina, but I'll allow it, since there's only two episodes left.

I wanted to feel more for Nate, because he was obviously struggling, but honestly? I'm still not happy with how they're trying to redeem him, first through his girlfriend, and now through his mended relationship with his family. Doing right by Will is great, but unless we get some heavy-hitting development in the last two episodes, I really don't think Nate has done enough to make amends. His growth feels earned through other people, and that bothers me.

Altogether, I was much happier after watching this episode than I have been for the whole season. Let's hope the next two episodes bring it all home in a satisfying way!

#ted lasso spoilers #ted lasso #rebecca welton #keeley jones #roy kent #nate shelley #rupert mannion

[antoine-triplett]

Nate/Jamie + Accountability

The theme of accountability is one of my favorites from the show and I love how it’s addressed in the second season especially.

Nate bullies the new kit boy mercilessly (even though he seems like a little sweetheart and gets along with absolutely everyone else) and also picks on Colin numerous times, who was admittedly one of his tormentors from early in season 1. What is so disappointing about the Colin situation is that Colin actually tries to tackle their dispute in a mature way, the way that he has been taught by his new coaches to respond to an issue. He approaches Nate when they are alone and asks directly if there is a problem. Nate’s response is weirdly mean and personal, as Coach Beard points out. He doesn’t pick on Jamie or Issac who also bullied him (Colin makes this valid point) because he’s still afraid of real confrontation. Will, Colin, and Ted are all much easier to belittle than Jamie or Issac and the chance of retaliation from any of them is more or less non-existent. 

Speaking of Jamie, one of my favourite scenes from the season was the one where his father showed up in the locker room. Jamie does end up hitting him, but first, like Colin, he tries to stand up for himself using words. He asks his father not to speak to him so disrespectfully (in his place of work, in front of all his co-workers and boss btw which is so incredibly shitty as someone who has had a parent do something similar). Jamie spent the second season being accountable for his behavior in the first season. He does the emotional work of gaining back the team’s trust and doesn’t expect it to just be handed to him. He stands up to his dad properly, not just with a punch in the face. He mends fences with Roy and earns his respect.

This is an interesting parallel between him and Nate who obviously feels like the world owes him something. Instead of confronting his own father, which is clearly where many of his issues with self-esteem stem from, Nate decides to make Ted, who again is an incredibly easy target, take the blame. Ted will take that blame and carry that guilt, even if he doesn’t necessarily deserve it.

Ted isn’t without blame in certain situations, but in the case of Nate, I don’t think he did anything wrong. He has been as consistently supportive of Nate as he has been of anyone else. He’s also being paid to be a support system for the players so it makes sense that he would be more focused on them. If at any point during the season Nate had gone to Ted and voiced his feelings, Ted would have listened. Instead he betrays Ted’s trust, blind-sides him during a game, and makes awful digs about his kid. All class. Sure to produce positive results.

I wish they would have made a bigger deal out of him kissing Keeley (I thought Coach Beard was kind of the only one who had a proper WTF reaction to that) when it was completely inappropriate. The fact that Nate assumed Keeley would tell Roy about Jamie’s confession but not their kiss is also a red flag for his over-inflated sense of self. It’s a real indicator of his emotional maturity level. He only tells Roy after he finds out about Jamie; he desperately wants to be seen on the same level as the footballer, in spite of them being completely, vastly different people.

I honestly hope they find a way to redeem his character next season. We’ve seen how good he can be when he isn’t trying so hard to impress everyone and it’s something this show is more than capable of pulling off.

#ted lasso #nathan shelley #jamie tartt #ted lasso meta #jessie watches tl #there are honestly too many little moments that contribute to this theme with the two of them to rehash #its done very well #which is why i have hope for nate next season

[harpersplay]

[image description: Tweet thread from twitter user msdanifernandez. First tweet reads, “Possible #TedLasso spoiler. Nate doesnt bother me cause he reminds me of many men I know who have continued a cycle of abuse. They were bullied growing up, and when they finally get some power, bully others. Hello, Jamie Tartt? This show IS about toxic masculinity.” Second tweet reads, “To me it shows that anyone is capable of falling into that type of behavior if they do not do the work to break the cycle. They blame everyone around them when in fact WE, victims of abuse, are still accountable for our actions. Nate has to do the work. And he may not.” Third tweet reads, “My dad dealt with a lot of abuse growing up. He passed that on to us, his kids. He did not break the cycle. We are left to break it.” Fourth tweet reads, “We also fight about allowing brown characters to be flawed the way white characters get to. It is a delicate balance. Whether he is redeemed or not, this is his journey. If you’re like “he’s wrong tho!” Okay welcome to TV! Sometimes your characters have flawed thinking!”]

To me it shows that anyone is capable of falling into that type of behavior if they do not do the work to break the cycle. They blame everyone around them when in fact WE, victims of abuse, are still accountable for our actions.

I am *so* exhausted with stans excusing a character's behaviour because of the character's history. What was happened (and is happening) provides a textual explanation for that character's actions, but it doesn't excuse them. That character is 100% responsible for their actions and any harm they may cause. If a particular set of circumstances automatically resulted in a particular character response, then all characters would react the same way. That's not how it works. It is why people—both real and fictional—can go thru the exact same situations and react differently.

Having characters that lack and/or dodge accountability are incredibly frustrating. They aren't good. They are boring and annoying and the result of shitty writing. And when the stans pile on to excuse away all harm done by their favs, all they do is make the fandom boring and annoying.

The Ted Lasso writers have so far done a great job with Nate. We've seen the things the happened and we've seen enough of Nate's personality to understand (even if we personally disagree) why he reacted the ways he did. We saw multiple instances when he could have (and even started) going down one path only to have some action by another character cause him to choose to swerve to another path. And the excellent thing (in terms of writing) is that so often the interaction was completely innoucous or completely unremarkable to the other character. For example, Keeley's response to Nate trying to kiss her came from a place of kindness. But to Nate it was a rejection because she wasn't more upset. Similarly with Roy's response. Roy trusts Keeley and Nate and understands how having Keeley's attention lighting on Nate could have a caused an innocent misunderstanding. So Roy not making a big deal of it is, again, a kindness and a gesture of friendship. But to Nate it was belittling because he saw it as Roy not seeing him as competition—not because Roy thinks well of him, but because Roy doesn't respect him.

None of this means that Nate leaking the story about Ted's panic attack was okay. None of this means Nate is not responsible for the consequences of that action. And as the thread above says, Nate doesn't have to be redeemed. He can just be a bad person. Or he can just be not there on his journey yet and may end the show still blaming everyone else. Those are totally valid writing choices. The problem, as I see it, is when the fans or creators or actors try to say that characters shouldn't be held accountable because of ~sad tragic backstory~ that shields a character from any criticism.

Anyway, I'm curious to see what they do with Nate and especially Nate & Rupert because from what little we've seen of the latter he is really good at ruthlessly using people.

There's another great Nate thread on Twitter here and Nick Mohammed (the actor that plays Nate) pinned a really interesting tweet about all this.

#ted lasso #nate shelley #an explanation is not an excuse #understanding is not condoning

[nessa007]

Thoughts on Nate from Ted Lasso? I just finished season 2 and have a lot of things to say!

Also happy new year, wishing you the best 💕

i am so mad at him right now! i actually HATE him! at first i was thinking that there is such a huge difference between him in s1 and s2 but then i was watching a youtube video breaking down his downfall and saw these comments:

the signs really were always there right from s1, he really was so vicious to the team when he got the chance and he totally snapped at rebecca when he thought he was getting fired.

one of the most uncomfortable scenes from s2 was when he threatened sweet little will and also when nate kissed keeley… disgusting!

nate seriously wants to be roy so badly, right down to wearing the black suit now, but he can’t stand that people don’t see him as tough or manly or whatever. he was more upset with the fact roy didn’t see him as a threat than the fact that he (nate) kissed keeley

the scene where he took out all his daddy issues on ted, i just can’t even say how angry this made me and how he so badly betrayed ted in the most hurtful and personal way after everything ted has done. something that hurts even more is that ted keeps the photo nate gave him at home by the photo of henry, his own son.

i love that coach beard caught on quickly to nate’s behaviour early on in s2!

i cannot wait to see nate get what he deserves in s3. rupert is totally gonna fuck him over. the writers can try to redeem nate but i really don’t know if it will work on the audience

happy new year, anon! ❤️

#*replies #anti nathan shelley #ted lasso

[keeley-jones]

Hello:) After watching the season 2 finale, do you think Nate's going to have a redemption arc or do you think he's officially turned into a villain? Thanks!

I think, in 'Ted Lasso' the only two truly irredeemable characters are Rupert and Mr. Tartt. I think in the end, Nathan will get his redemption arc.

That being said, Nate has a LONG, and I mean LONG, way to go in order to be redeemed.

-He said vicious things to Ted, including 'you're a fucking joke,' 'you don't belong here,' 'ship your ass back to Kansas where you belong, with your son.'

-He kissed Keeley without her consent, knowing she's in a relationship (with one of his coworkers no less!)

-He leaked Ted's mental health struggles to the press

-He's been cruel to Will all season, berating him over the tiniest things and treating him like garbage for no reason

-He's also been cruel to Colin, who has already accepted his, albeit not genuine, apology

-Ripping down the Believe sign and refusing to celebrate the team's win

-He went to work for Rupert, a man he knows has hurt Rebecca deeply and who is, in general, an awful person

He's dug himself into a deep, deep hole. While the writers could choose to keep him villain, I have a strong feeing they won't. Jamie and Rebecca have been redeemed, and I think they'll continue with that theme of apologies and redemption with Nate. It'll take all season, most likely, and Nate is gonna have to make genuine apologies and work to earn everyone's trust back, which won't be easy to do.

But this is 'Ted Lasso.' The emotional climax of the first season was Ted telling Rebecca 'I forgive you' (minus the finale episode). Nate will come to his senses, realize his mistakes, get the help he needs (hopefully from Dr. Sharon) and begin his journey to redemption.

And Nick Mohammed will once again deliver an incredible performance! (Also if anyone sends hate of any kind to Nick I WILL headbutt you :) leave him the fuck alone unless you're praising his performance and/or sending him support)

#nathan shelley #ted lasso spoilers #ask #anon

[tedllasso]

Just finished the latest episode and ooooooh my god, I hate Nate, hate him. From kissing Keeley without consent!!! To this! My hope is that they remove him from the coaching team in the next episode but I feel like they won’t, they might try to redeem him somehow, I don’t think Ted would be angry at him, just upset that he’d betray him like that despite Ted always being a great friend to him. Ugh 😑 but I hope Roy goes in on his ass for kissing his girlfriend. Nate needs to humbled. Like I wasn’t this mad when Rebecca tried to sabotage the team because she and Ted weren’t friends like they are now, but Nate is Ted’s friend here, one of his close friends, like how could you even do that? Agh. I’m going to be annoyed all week because of this 😮‍💨

I beg to differ...the karma police song might be a clue of a) maybe ted will have his little revenge...he's ted but he's still human and this kind of betrayal hurts. b) the song means ' here you go universe, take care of nate'. Either way nate will suffer some kind of consequence.... as he should.

#ted lasso spoilers #ted lasso #spoilers #answered

[remythologise]

Anon you got into Ted Lasso here! Just finished 2.01.

Do we ever learn how Trent's daughter Serafina handled being biscuit-less? This is what the people deserve to know.

I assume Keeley and Rebecca are definitely in a lesbian-centric throuple with Roy by the end of s2 and I refuse to look it up. (Can women be friends? Yes, as long as they also fuck. -- me, queen/king of lesbians and wlw everywhere. Trust me; I was voted in.) Anyway, looking forward to their passionate kiss with tongue any minute now.

I already know Nate does bro crimes. Reading the Discourse™, my opinion boils down to: there are way more south Asian folks in the UK than this casting job would indicate. But also, I'm glad they started his negative character development arc by being cruel to someone below him on the hierarchy. Since Ted and Beard have encouraged his cruelty on multiple occasions, and ignored his posturing in 2.01, I personally think they have reaped what was sown.

I hope he gets a chance to redeem himself in s3. If Rebecca can, Nate should get to. (But I also don't know the full extent of the bro crimes.)

Trent has only had like six lines so far but I miss him sooo much.

DANI ROOOJAS!! Boy, they don't give him much of an internal life, huh? I love him anyway. I hope he starts all of his mental breakdowns in bed with multiple women. He seems like a boy who knows how to make it good for everybody and doesn't mind when his x-some partners are more interested in each other.

Re: Jamie. Normally, I LOVE a mean, sad pretty boy with daddy issues (💖 Dean), but he's so boring.

Ted. I love that they don't make him perfect. He's such a sad divorced man. I want him to give Trent every mustache-related fantasy gay men have for whatever reason. wlw/mlm solidarity.

SAM!!

I haven't talked enough about my great idea (i.e. Rebecca and Keeley should f--

Hello anon I’m sorry I took so, so, so long to answer you!! I’ve had a very tiring few months with lots of work 😩 I’ll put everything you sent under the cut here!

First to reply to the above ask — NO WE NEVER FOUND OUT ABOUT THE BISCUITS. Although I’ll be honest/cynical (which is the tone of most of my replies here, apologies) I’m pretty sure this wasn’t planned out as more than anything but a joke about James Lance having a daughter that age.

Hahaha, I think most of the fandom is on the Jamie/Roy/Keeley train I don’t know if I can see Rebecca and Roy together at all (no…) but Rebecca/Keeley for sure!!!

I agree that Nate should definitely redeem himself. Seems ridiculous if he doesn’t. Although he’s also gone so far unnecessarily and in a sort of irredeemable way in some cases.

OH MY GOD YEAH TRENT NOT BEING IN S2 VERY MUCH WAS SO DIRE. I was impatiently awaiting his arrival on screen every week.

100% agree with your assessment on both counts. Firstly that Dani Rojas should have more complexity and is a weird cartoon at the moment but also he DOES seem like a very generous and emotionally healthy person for a relationship like that.

Interested to see if your opinion on Jamie changed! Personally I’m pretty neutral on him overall but he definitely became a more enjoyable character through Season 2.

I definitely agree that Ted NEEDED to be imperfect as did his method of teaching, but I don’t know if they’ve dived into the right angles of ‘fixing’ the gaps in his method yet (if Nate is meant to be Villain forever, etc., if the show will blame Nate and not Ted for that character arc)

Hahaha many people agree with you there!

I JUST FINISHED 2.03 AND I’M SO PROUD OF SAM BUT SO WORRIED THAT HIS GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO RETRACT HIS VISA OR SOMETHING JGSKSKGS. It was nice to see Sam being able to express his politics without being abandoned. It’s such a fantasy world but it’s good to see glimpses of it from the corner of your eye.

It’s not totally beyond belief but it’s certainly very very heartwarming to see even in fiction. Actually if I’m cynical I feel like it’s not THAT unlikely in real life, if the PR department of a company figure they can get media attention and brand loyalty through defying a well-disliked Moral Evil, that might net them more profit than loss.

Nate: Hi I'm growing more abusive every day. Ted and Beard: We've decided not to address it. This will have no repercussions whatsoever. But I really hope that he's allowed to move on and grow from whatever he did. I think power, money, and fame scramble brains; we're all vulnerable to it.

Yeah for sure, I’d be pretty shocked if Ted Lasso the show never brought back Nate over to ‘the good side’. I figure he’ll probably have a redemption arc where he betrays Rupert just before or during a match between West Ham and Richmond next season.

Also. I could Not watch Led Tasso. No idea what happened, and I never will learn, God bless.

😅😅😅

I didn't read all about the black woman therapist stuff (planning on reading the Discourse after I'm done) but I like Dr. Fieldstone a lot. The way the actor plays her feels so anchored in reality that the exaggerated/TV-sized personalities become cartoonish. I'm also not supposed to eat sugar, so I extra enjoyed the biscuit scene. Yes. Undermine the overly-friendly man who assumes he knows more about your body than you do. Make him question everything.

Yeah that’s true, I think Sarah Niles very realistic and understated in her acting!

Trent looked so good. I don't know if Ted noticed but I saw and I think he's gonna get that man. Also, congrats to Sam for making Trent realize there are other stories he'd like to cover.

kjsdflksdlfkjs yeah I think the Trent Crimm look is just very good, just on a character level it’s SO distinct!

Okay, I've put off the next ep long enough. Surely they won't put a deportation story line in Apple TV's flagship show about hope and kindness, Ted Lasso...

Certainly not, the writers seem to sort of MOSTLY exist in a very post-racism post-homophobia post-local-politics world which I have mixed feelings about. But that makes sense for Apple’s flagship show which needs wide appeal.

sorry I don't know anyone who watches this

No no it’s fine!! I enjoyed all your commentary.

LMAAOOO STANDING UP TO FAKE DUBAI AIR BUT ALLOWING NESTLE PRODUCT PLACEMENT. I know it’s Apple TV™ but still

Exactly 🙄

I am. FULLY on Nate's side. GO evil, baby. BETRAY them. WHISPER SECRETS INTO THE EAR OF THE KING, or whatever. Ted: We have to forgive Jamie and bring him back because he doesn't have a very nice daddy. Nate: He tormented me. Ted: Mhm. Nate 10 times a day: I made the fact that I'm unloved and disrespected into a joke, haha. Ted: Beard: Leslie: Nate: Yeah, alright. Nate: I hate myself and you remind me of everything wrong with me. Therefore, I will be a huge jerk. New Kit Man: Okay. Ted: Beard: Dr. Fieldstone who is like down right down the hall: Wow, another free hour of time. It's unfortunate that there's literally no one left to help. That no one feels overlooked, unwanted, and unloved. It's TOO BAD there's an anti-therapy culture here and certain people aren't encouraged...! Nate: I worked for hours and hours on my ability to do one simple, tiny thing that might win me a moment of your approval. Mr. Shelley: (I can't think of anything dismissive and mean enough.) Nate: Okay, I'm going to go SPIT ON A MIRROR which I literally just got done cleaning months ago, okay I'm breaking stride. My first job was as a maid fully 15 years ago and you know what?? I don't fucking spit on mirrors. Who DOES that. I get that it's a self-hating thing but PEOPLE HAVE TO CLEAN THAT, NATHAN. My original point was that he's once again harassing someone "beneath" him. It's just gross, Nathan. Then Roy comes back, and he's tall and beautiful and in a better suit, and everyone knows his name. Of course Nate joins the Sith. To be clear, I'm not suggesting that what he's doing is acceptable. It's just that, wherever he goes, no one on the good vibes good time lovey dovey team stopped him.

No I think for sure the extent to which Nate has been ground down is overlooked, but I think importantly it is a bit of a like… nobody did that INTENTIONALLY to Nate. Idk I do feel like the writing really missed here for me for a variety of reasons, I’m on Nate’s side but only because I’m so annoyed at the racism of it all. They COULD have tapped more into the likely reality of the situation (Nate being overlooked and not paid attention to historically and even when he has power because of his race height etc as part of it vs. Conventionally Attractive White Men) but of course Apple TV doesn’t go that far...

Anyway. How long am I gonna have to watch Keeley beg for Rebecca's strap? She needs it, Rebecca.

🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈 lmao I mean. I’m sorta neutral on Rebecca/Keeley because unless they do something about it, that one suggestive line really does tie into the Homophobic Joke train that I am uncomfortable with wrt Ted Lasso esp. with that Keeley bit in the last episode...

Please note that I genuinely love Ted, Beard, et al. I get that they can't be 100% on top of things all the time, and that this whole season is about therapy being important, and your friends aren't therapists, whatever. It's just that hearing someone say "I care about people with [problem], which is why I treat them differently to you," when you have [problem]? It makes you feel like what you experience isn't real or that you don't have it bad enough or that your emotions just aren't worth bothering about. A kissaroo from me to Ted Lasso, is what I'm saying. I contain multitudes.

Hmm, do you mean that Ted shouldn’t have treated Nate any differently anyway, even if he knew about Nate’s compounding issues? Maybe! Although I guess everyone requires different treatment because everyone is unique too.

Alright, next ep! kdkgdkgzkfskfzlgobllgx HEETTYY GUESS WHO JUST MADE A TINY SAD DIVORCED BOY FACE AND IS 100% MY ANGEL BABY SWEETIE PIE HEARTBEAT DARLING ANGEL KITTEN AGAIN. Also also also can you imaginneee Sam/Rebecca they would be SOOO cute. It’s not going to happen because he’s like 21 but still. They’re so compatible and he’s SO GOOD AND SWEET and!!! she supported him!! even though it cost her money!! So I trust her with his precious heart. Obviously I trust her more with Keeley--

Ha. Well. Great message to read with hindsight.

Nate pattern continues! So he's only visible and worthy of praise and affection when he does something impressive. Twitter, of course, is a corrupting force and must be stopped. But it's like Ted said. We've met Nate's parents, so we know why he's broken. This WHOLE season has been designed around breaking him more. Like I just feel like you're not as vulnerable to Twitter brain rot when you were seen and understood and loved by your family, you know?

Yeah of course!

Can you BELIEVE? I actually liked seeing Jamie on my screen.

I see the S2 Jamie effect is taking hold haha!

Also, Beard is dating my ex. Much love to you, Beard. I wouldn't have listened to Leslie Jr., either.

So sorry for you for having to deal with that then. Although unsure if Beard is meant to end up with her or not honestly.

Also, your icon gives me Rebecca/Keeley/Morgana brain rot. Forget conquering France; they'd take over the moon.

I think definitely any media property couldn’t handle Morgana and Rebecca in it at the same time.

He was mean to Will who still has chubby baby cheeks and now his evilness is evil for real. :( BUT MORE IMPORTANTLYYY Trent Crimm The Independent oh my GOD he dates little string bean mustache men that have a favorite 10-key calculator and can't dress. Ted is his TYPE. I've seen the gifsets of Ted walking away from Trent in his butt-huggin' khakis. I know in my heart he was consuuumed with lust. Trent Crimm The Independent probably ONLY dates divorced men. If you're not 40+ don't even look at him. He wants them a little pathetic and a LOT obedient-- (a shepherd's hook pulls me off the stage

SDLFKJSDFLKSJDF yeah. yeah. Eternally asking why they bothered to put that in if not— but no, this is Ted Lasso. But—

I haven't talked about Roy, but I love him. Kiss kiss. He treats Keeley well and gives her so many orgasms.

He does! Although I found him a little same-y and annoying in Season 2 in contrast to everyone else. His and Keeley’s storylines just went absolutely nowhere.

Dr. Sharon I am free on Thursdays are you free on Thursdays when I'm free ma'am? Doctor? Doctor ma'am?? I promise I am sooo normal haha Me after seeing Coach Beard address A situation: YEAH!!! Me after Nate apologizes publicly to Colin: Hmmm, good start Me after he's mean to chubby baby cheeks: 😱😱😱😱😱

You know the other heterosexual swing the show could take is Ted/Sharon (unethical!) your love IS under threat from more fandom/writing 😱 Yeah uhhhh Nate just got nastier and nastier. Unfortunately.

Sam/Rebecca continues to be a very strong mixed gender ship... Congratulations to Ted Lasso for making me want multiple sets of men and women to interact more, and even romantically. Wild how much I care about all of these weirdos.

I agree I actually really enjoyed their relationship as it was portrayed on the show!

Guy who's only watched Supernatural recently voice: Haha I know this is crazy but do you think sometimes people plan TV shows?

Well. In fairness I vastly prefer Supernatural to Ted Lasso which might be the only defence of the pantser vs. plotter approach I ever make.

Ted, if you leave a stew on your stove overnight, you'll burn down your house. :( :( :( See what Ted needs is a mean divorced 4 divorced gay ma--

So true but laughing that you noticed the pot on the stove at all

LESBOPHOBIA??? MY CRUSH JUST GOT HIT BY A FUCKING CAR "I don't have a husband." Yeah you don't 😏 This ep was wlw/mlm solidarity. Thank you for taking care of my future wife, Ted Lasso.

Yeah although that like. Mistaken boyfriend thing is SUCH (an overused and lazy) trope for setting up romance. Why put that in? Hmm. If they go the route of Ted/Sharon they’re going to piss off approximately 80% of their viewership but it did seem to me like it was being set up there.

I can't BELIEEEVE we got a Sam/Rebecca kiss TWO TIMES a Sam/Rebecca kiss. Is this how it feels when relationships develop on television? There's kisses and implied sex? I wouldn't know because, from what I learned yesterday, the great thing about making up funny little people for television is that they're always open for interpretation. You know what I mean?

lksjflkjaslkdfj what a way to timestamp this ask. 💀

Also, shout out to this fucking show for making me realize that Ted started taking care of his neighbor's dog who bit him once around the same time his dad killed himself. Shout out to the concept of taking care of little creatures when it's hard to take care of yourself. Shout out to pre-mustache Ted, who probably went by Teddy and had chubby baby cheeks. I need. Listen. Listen. People won't leave you if you make them happy, right? [static]

The backstory did explain a lot about Ted’s character, that much was signposted pretty well through the early show, I’ll give them that.

Apple Product Placement Count: I gave up like three episodes in. I hope all of Apple TV's shows are like this. I hope there's a show set in the '80s with some Apple nerd using insert name of original computer here so 1984 feels less like 1984.

It’s very funny that the core premise of the show is like ‘well the magic of iPads means Dad can have a job overseas and STILL connect with you, son!’

I don't understand how these are like, 35 minutes. SPN finale was 38 minutes and there were 12 montages. How did they play and lose a whole game? Also, is it weird to you when you watch shows with a budget? There are so many speaking roles and extras. Everyone has multiple changes of clothes. Characters kiss sometimes. Wild.

On my Supernatural Defence box because again I believe it’s a more enjoyable/lasting show to me than Ted Lasso (Season 2, at least) but certainly there ARE good Supernatural episodes… I don’t think Ted Lasso needs as much budget as it has, frankly, that money could be better spent elsewhere.

(The problem is, that one line from leupagus's masterwork replays in my head every time Ted has feelings: "No," says Trent, his mouth quirking. "That’s what made me want to shove my cock down your throat." Like what am I supposed to do, NOT think about Trent Crimm The Independent? Just because he's not in the episode? Just because he's not in the episode and it's extremely disrespectful?)

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I fucking love that we don't even see why Roy was sent to the bad boys box. We can imagine what he did to anger the ref. Also, I don't know anything about fancy soccer/football with rules that are enforced, so do they really put coaches in time out? Related: do the fans think it's cool nasty boy behavior, or are they like :o this is a job you are getting paid to watch people play a game do your job oh my gosh. Bridget, did you see what that football manager did? He did a cuss at a referee, whose job is to make sure people are playing a game right, which is very hard. How dare he, Bridget. Oh, I know, Todd. Makes me sick, it does. Those poor referees.

Do you know I have no idea. Although in general Ted Lasso The Show notoriously doesn’t actually have very good research or consistency on the soccer lore (which… the show isn’t about that, or narratively doesn’t NEED to, but still).

You ever watch an episode of television and think "hey wait a minute, this IS an artistic medium that's uniquely qualified to tell small stories in perfect clarity?"

Me watching Supernatural 😛

I think the next ep is the finale... Goodness. I haven't binge watched anything in years. Thanks for going through it with me.

I wonder if binging Season 2 would have changed my opinions of the season honestly. I did enjoy Season 1 thoroughly when I binged it. But there are some weaknesses in Season 2 I don’t think a binge experience would have fixed.

I just want you to know that I am one of those viewers/readers/whatever that just fully invests in the emotions of whatever. I'm SOOO gullible. If the protagonist is a demon whose goal is to destroy the veil between worlds and bring hell on earth, I'll root for them the whole time. Then after I'll be like "hey wait a minute, I live there." All of this is to say: 1. Sam is 21 and if this was reversed I would Simply 2. There are 11 minutes left in the funeral ep and I was wrong 3. IF THEY DO TED/REBECCA AFTER THIS I WILL S I M P L Y 4. What the fuck did Rupert say to Nate. Don’t touch him. That’s MY sad little man in the alchemical process of putrefaction so that the detritus around his soul can decompose and his essence can be purified by fire. You don’t fucking TOUCH Nate, Rupert. 5. I’m just. LITERALLY using Sam as a baby step to get back into dating. Literally literally literally. 6. TO REITERATE. IF SAM GETS HIS PRECIOUS HEART CRUSHED AND TED/REBECCA IS ENDGAME. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 7. Like I know that Sam’s characterization was very Happy African from the beginning. I know that. Unfortunately, I am not immune to smiling men who do their best (see: Ted Lasso, Dani Rojas), even when it’s trope-y and shallow (see: Dani Rojas). I get that a good portion of Sam’s storyline this season was designed to give the white characters a chance to be Good Allies (see: Jamie Tartt esp. but basically all of them). But it’s just sooo. Like. It’s so much more PERSONAL to use his feelings and his body.

I don’t think it’s ‘gullible’ to invest in emotions of characters at all! That’s what fiction is for. Even if they are a demon bent on destroying Earth. I can name anime where you empathise with a protagonist with the same premise. 1) is very valid yeah although at least he’s a consenting adult — the unethical part really is the employment/employee relationship, and the fact Rebecca has power over him. The age/maturity divide makes it unrealistic a relationship would work out generally if it were a real thing but… I don’t know, the way they depicted in the show was almost like ‘true love’ (like lightning, to wit!). Not sure what they’re doing there.

2) and 3) - lkdjflkasjdf if this is in reference to Sam/Rebecca yeah I don’t think they’re going to convince me on Tedbecca where there’s like no existing subtext in the show (to ME, although people disagree) and they’ve just put down this Big Damn Romance with Sam. 4) Well honestly as a Anthony Head / Rupert Supporter (for the fun of it) Nate is really the perfect person to use as a weapon. 5) and 6) yeah it’s bad :/ but again the show SEEMS to be like ‘this is true love unlike her other flings’ so REALLY unsure… ? Fandom/audience reaction is throwing me off my perception of the show in a vaccuum, if that makes sense. 7) Yeah I completely know what you mean, I still love those characters even if they wish they were less trope-y and shallow. And yeah on the Sam issue… well. I don’t know what’s going to happen. But Sam deserves more agency than he has had in the story, historically.

Again, there are 11 minutes left. HHHHHHHHHHHH. I guarantee you though that if they wink in my direction and don't shake their head when I mouth "me?" I will shuffle forward into the bear trap every time.

Well, gosh darn. Shoot. And heck! Got me again. Them writin' folks got me again. Gonna eat my hat, I tell you what. He IS just gonna get more wonderful but dagNABbit.

Oh no, my foot, it is in a bear trap. How did this happen? Who put this there? Why? Except--what's this! It's my distaste for the idea of a white woman getting in between a black man's sense of home and comfort, as well as material gain? My distaste has rusted the hinges of the bear trap!! It has fallen away!! OH, the skin is unbroken--a miracle!!--and I am SAVED by how completely, utterly unequal Sam's two options are.

I normally wake up in 30 minutes, but I haven't slept yet. Instead of commenting on All That, I would like to recommend 2 Pesewas. It's a great podcast hosted by two Ghanaian women. They talk about current events and give music recs. I really appreciate their perspectives on everything. Even when I've heard the story before, their angles are always new to me.

That’s a great recommendation, thanks so much! I’ve got a ridiculous podcast backlog at the moment to get through but hopefully I start doing a lot of podcast-involved chores and exercise in the next little bit and can get to trying it out.

Actually, one comment. Was his display of wealth extravagant: - because he inherited his money last month? - because he’s a billionaire? or - because he’s a wealthy African? It felt very fucking weird. I do think that performance was great, though.

Yeah the politics of this were like. Not great, I felt a bit weird about it. I guess ‘billionaires always bad’ not the worst take but ‘minorities with power trying to change the system are secretly part of it’ not the best take. The thing *I* found most egregious was how Ted Lasso was called out for racism by a villian, therefore making his ‘calling out’ invalid and our white hero remains pure. Which it shouldn’t have been!

Once again I must ask Rupert to fall into the sea and drown. Anyway TRENT CRIMM INDEPENDENT TRENT CRIMM INDEPENDENT TRENT CRIMM INDEPENDENT TRENT CRIMM INDEPENDENT TRENT CRIMM INDEPENDENT TRENT CRIMM INDEPENDENT TRENT CRIMM INDEPENDENT CHECKED! OUT! TED'S! ASS!

LSKJFLKSDLFKJS. Come through S3!

He is sooo embarrassing lmao he was like "is anyone gonna meet this sad divorced man like 6 times privately before deciding to rearrange their whole life because he made you realize there are other possibilities?" but didn't wait for an answer. I!!! would love to hear your thoughts! And I will actually read the Discourse after I, you know, sleep.

I have nooooo idea what they were trying to do with Trent Crimm and what they intend on doing in the future but it is very romantic from that point of view! (And I hope The DiscourseTM didn’t ruin your experience too much!) (And very honoured you wanted to hear my thoughts on things!)

Also I think Nate's villain reveal was fucking cool. Good for him. Be evil!! Live a little!!!! Realize Rupert is using you and that your feelings of inadequacy are calls coming from inside the house!!!!!! THROW RUPERT INTO THE SEA, NATE. Inherit the club via falsified will. Build a mansion with your football club money and buy a silk velvet robe. Write out your memoir and sew the pages into the seams. Walk around in you empty house in your crinkly robe and revel in the way your problems followed you all the way here. They're so loyal, Nate. They'll never leave you as long as you keep the perfect environment for them inside you. Stay with them, Nate. Forever.

Scream I absolutely love this imagery thank you so, so much for this. I’m now in support of Victorian-Antihero style Nate ending!

I'm glad I went into this semi-warned, though. You're right; it was fucked. I especially didn't like the like, predatory/inept lover trope. Go and fuck yourself. Also, why does everyone apologize to Roy for what they did to Keeley?

Right? It was so unnecessary! And that is ALSO a great point I hated although in Nate’s case I suppose because (?) if I’m being generous the Keeley thing was more about the man Nate envied and wanted to be rather than Keeley herself (gross).

For the record, at this time tomorrow, I will be clocked in at work.

I’m so sorry I hope your schedule is all nice and readjusted now!

AHHHH okay that’s all. Except I’m so glad Sam stayed and didn’t make it about Rebecca. He’s right; there’s always a third option. Okay, bye, thanks for listening!!

Yeah although where they’re planning on going from here (and especially with the audience reaction to it all), I have no idea.

khxlhdlgydj so I read through some things. Me seeing Sharon in a corporate flat she hasn’t personalized at all beyond her alcohol bottles and sweet folding bike AND THEN she’s late to therapy which she doesn’t even go to, she has no excuse, like how hard is it to start a phone call on time AND THEN she's mean to pedestrians while riding her cool bike and listening to jams: Ohhhhhhh babygirl,, You: This is nothing to me. Who are you, Dr. Sharon Fieldstone? You're probably right re: the actual depth provided by the show itself. I am just very gay and love both disasters and bikes. To me, she seems like one of those professionally hypercompetent people who prioritizes work because she has control over it. Same reason she writes letters instead of saying goodbye. Also, she's gay. The "I don't have a boyfriend/husband" -> "is she gay?" rumors -> "gal pal brides only practice wedding" pipeline. I just made it up but it's real.

Ugh I HOPE she’s gay and I hope we get more from her next season but who knows!! Have no idea what they plan on doing with her character. She was really shafted for no reason at the end of Season 2.

I agree that Ted showing up at her place was incredibly boundary-stomping. Based on where he was, his actions make sense, but it doesn’t make them okay.

It’s always particularly egregious when Ted Lasso does something Not Okay and the show kind of excuses it or doesn’t address it, I don’t know I found this really confronting and weird behaviour that he got away with because he’s a white protagonist. Certainly I assume it’s the same here as the UK that following a therapist home is wildly aggressive behaviour you’d be justified calling the police over, although the show definitely was trying to portray it more as a friendship thing (despite the fact he was addressing her mostly as a therapist and not a friend).

Agreed, she largely existed to provide emotional growth for a white character. But like… Women. (I listened to the second NPR interview, but haven't read the first Slate article yet.

Oh definitely it’s cool to love characters even if they’re not treated very well by the show they’re in!

Also, thanks for letting me liveblog to you. I didn't realize that Nate specifically was such a tender spot for you; I went into this knowing he leaked something and wanted to figure out why. My innate love of fictional villainy, bastardry, and just being a bit mean on bad days then took over. With that stat that's like 7% of the UK population is Indian, his being the only one on the show is rough.

Oh no it’s okay, I don’t mind and I’m happy to discuss it! Honestly it’s just annoying to see it so uncriticised by reviewers/critics/fans/audiences; that’s the REALLY irritating part to me, that it’s just ignored.

I'm mostly sending this to say: if at any point my asks made you uncomfortable or lessened your enthusiasm about replying, there's no pressure to respond.)

It was a pleasure to receive the asks and reply to them!! Again I’m sorry it took so long - I just finished my semester this weekend haha. I’m glad you enjoyed the experience of Ted Lasso!

#ask #anonymous #kira for ts #ted lasso for ts #this took me years to reply to sorry anon you’ve joined the ranks of my AO3 inbox #(yikes. need to get onto that) #I find it so hard to juggle fandom/blog/fic responsibilities when I’m not on holiday ahhh #hope read more works on tumblr mobile or y’all are fucked. sorry. #long post for ts #just in case

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REPOST: queenkeeleyhawes’s official ranking of keeley’s male character counterparts

**reposting because i added theo (i forgot him the first time), added martin (mutual friends) because i recently watched it. removed david from top tier after i revisited some things. moved sven to top tier because it’s what he deserves. and moved gene hunt lower because let’s be honest, he’s the worst.**

this list includes: husbands, boyfriends, bosses, and other male coworkers. there is some of her work that i left off because her part was too small. i started this list originally at 5 am a couple of weeks ago. these are my personal opinions. please don’t come for me. most are pretty self-explanatory too but i did list reasons anyway. if you happen to disagree with me, that’s fine, but i’m pretty set in my ways so even if we have a nice conversation, you’re unlikely to change my mind. ** SEMI(?) SPOILERS AHEAD**

Top Tier 

Spiros - hello he literally did everything for her and her family. took such good care of them from day one. literally found them a house when they got on the island. and furniture. and a maid. he got her ring back when she sold it to bribe those thugs in series 1. attempted to tutor gerry when she couldn’t find anyone else. held her when she needed a good cry after hugh nearly died and after florence could have died delivering her baby. watched her children while she went back home briefly. built gerry his zoo. the list goes on and on.

Caspar -  saw her for who she was. was impressed by her mind. “you’re beautiful as well as good. one of those things i can't change. the other i never will.” that is all. 

Fabian - *crying emojis* he literally cared so much for her. always wanted to be with her. literally put her aunt into a home and paid for it when it was not cheap. pretty much disowned his eldest daughter for her. after everything still adored her.

Samuel P. - hoo boy it’s a lot. clearly they made a connection. but he respected her and her marriage to not pursue it further when she put an end to it. was so happy for her when she found her son.

Jarvis - he just loved her so much. the lil hotel kissing scene. the way they looked at each other. ugh. we’re not even going to talk about them singing together in rehearsal. i don’t have it in me.

Dick Dewey - i mean hello. good on the eyes. sweetheart. loved her so much. the hand washing scene. the lake scene. saved her father from the bear trap and let some other dude take the credit.  made all the boys apologize to her via song after they humiliated her in church. 

Danny - let her move in with him when he saw how terrible her living arrangements were. so much more. i really wanted them to end up together.

Theo  - obviously, he belongs in Top Tier because he was always just absolutely wonderful to louisa and to gerry (duh) and he always gave her the best advice. like I truly believe they were best friends and though he didn’t include himself, he was definitely part of the “men she loved the most on the island.” also he’s an “honorary woman.” the end.

Sven - literally saved her son from dying. brought her nets for her olives. let gerry borrow a goat. eventually i liked them together and i think they could have worked...but...you know.

Good Tier

Harry - cool dad. loved their relationship. he took care of her.

Tom - they were very good friends and he treated her so well. he genuinely cared for her as an employee. obviously the real chemistry was there but i'm honestly glad they didn’t go in that direction.

Ray - listen i know he’s an ass but he’s the ass that you actually love. and she changed him for the better. i loved the dynamic between him and alex and as they grew as friends. plus dean and keeley just played off each other so nicely.

Daniel - she just wanted him to call about that damn flat but he finally had his little break through by the end so he can stay and obviously matthew and keeley working together is *heart eyes.*

Richard Shaw - he had his issues but he really did love kathleen and even though he was basically in denial about their son and did some things she didn’t like...he was a good man who took care of her.

David - i mean it was literally his job to save her and he did try (we’re not gonna talk about the end of episode 3). i believe he really put her at ease and was making her change her opinions and views on so many things. but there were issues...we can’t deny that.

Mr Morley - we didn’t see them interact much...but he’s fine.

Chris - he’s fine as co-workers go. i think he definitely respected alex eventually but he wasn’t my favorite.

Will (MI-5) - he was fine. a little boring but fine and he literally was not even cute. really zoe??? he did love her. and she did end up having a good life with him.

Bad Tier

Martin Grantham - almost cheated on his wife for revenge. told her potential boss she had mental health problems just to keep her from getting the job. believed a rumor that she had hired a solicitor so he hired one out of spite. umm the bar scene with their son. everything he did with peter. enough said.

Rob Graham - he almost cheated on his wife. he was in slight denial about their son. didn’t want to get a dog. loved her and he clearly fought to stay with her. a few points for that.

Joe M*cb*th - was just kinda there? not horrible but not great.

Steve A - do i really even need to explain? he’s just so infuriating. you’re probably wondering why he’s not lower on this list...but...well just wait until you see the rest.

Mr Royal - he just generally sucks and also he ruined her dessert in that one lil scene and was just horrible. and he fucking slapped her, knocking her to the ground???? no sir.

Peter - the jealousy i mean come on and he terrorized her. nearly killed her best friend. not to mention i’m about 99.8% sure he stole her cat.

Hugh - ugh he was with her to make vasillia jealous. i don’t care what he tried to say. and i hate that he called her angel when that’s what her husband called her. also i think she just liked the idea of them and then realized how quickly it wasn’t going to work out, especially when he wanted her to go back to england when they hadn’t even been there that long and clearly corfu made her happy?!?!? purposefully hurt spiros.

Miles Mollison - it literally took him hearing his mother calling his wife a failure for him to grow a spine?!?!? and dude your wife looked like that *long sigh*

Trash Tier 

Billy - how many times did she have to ask him about getting a job. the jealousy. he didn’t do anything???? he took care of jake so he gets points for that. but he made her feel like crap for it so….bye. and he told tina even though angela didn’t want to tell anyone.

Michael - literally tried to murder her.

Othello - actually murdered her.

Dennis Hamilton  - crazy, jealous. possessive. made her get an abortion. spent all of her money. just gross.

Alec Wilson - hello he literally had another wife and two other children that she knew of. and he only gave her 5 measly fucking pounds….rude. 

Terry Leather - had an affair with another woman. kinda redeemed himself in the end but not really. 

Hallam - literally had an affair with her sister. forced her to take in lotte when she was terrified she’d lose their baby. was trash to his little sister after making a big deal about getting her out of the asylum. was horrible to blanche. was fine (?) with the staff but not really?? 

Sam Webster - had an affair. got another woman pregnant when that’s something his wife wanted again. literally never believed her about anything. blamed her for alice’s death and then later tried to tell her not to blame herself when she was depressed. horrible to their son. just an all around shitty person.

Roger - jealous of j’s power. racist remark about david. tells her something she specifically said she doesn’t care to hear. and let’s be honest he was probably bopping some blonde 20 year old.

Dryden - wouldn’t leave his wife. forced her to get an abortion. literally picked up a 15 year old at some gathering for a bj. gross gross gross.

Gene - grade A asshole. i literally do not understand why people love them together??? he was the one who saved her as a child??? but then almost hooked up with her in the afterlife??? creepy. no matter how many times i re-watch, i cannot find any redeeming qualities in him or any reason why they should be together. also he was a sexist, homophobic, RACIST pig. i don't care it was the 80s...gross. this one you definitely will not be able to fight me on.

#this is what happens when i can't sleep #these poor women #also poor keeley #men are trash #except for those in top and good tier #give her good men 2020 & 2021 #keeley hawes #seriously you will not be able to fight me on gene #i actually loathe him

[lifejustgotawkward]

365 Day Movie Challenge (2017) - #19: Burnt (2015) - dir. John Wells

Insert bad spoiled-meal metaphor here. Where does one begin to critique the shortcomings of Burnt? With Bradley Cooper’s performance as a chef who verbally and physically assaults any employee who disappoints him? Or with the many disappointments of Sienna Miller’s character arc, particularly the fact that she falls in love with Cooper despite his abusive tendencies? Or perhaps with the odd writing of Daniel Brühl’s character, the restaurateur who runs the venue where Cooper is trying to redeem himself? (We know from the beginning that Brühl’s main motivation is that he is in love with Cooper; late in the film, Cooper kisses Brühl on the lips as a means of apologizing for some of his heinous behavior, but the act merely seems cruel since all it accomplishes is making Brühl flustered and incapable of coherent speech.) Burnt wastes the considerable potential of its many supporting actors -  Emma Thompson, Uma Thurman, Matthew Rhys, Alicia Vikander (is it too on the nose to describe her as Cooper’s ex-flame?), Omar Sy, Lily James, Riccardo Scamarcio, Sam Keeley - and while some of cinematographer Adriano Goldman’s shots of delicious meals enter “food porn” territory, Burnt is a stale comedy that is best served by being dumped in the trash.

#365 day movie challenge 2017 #burnt #2015 #2010s #john wells #bradley cooper #sienna miller #daniel brühl #daniel bruhl #emma thompson #uma thurman #matthew rhys #alicia vikander #omar sy #lily james #riccardo scamarcio #sam keeley