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stormblessed95 · 2 years

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Good morning Storm.

I think TKKrs have ruined Taekook for me. The cute pic that just posted of them with someone at Hobi’s party, or that video that surfaced of them dancing next to each other, I think to myself “so cuuuute”. And then its followed by “eeeesh, what are they going to explode this into”, and then the amount of hate that gets slung by both groups. I hope people know that both Tae and JK would pick Jimin over anyone, including each other. Let the guys have their moments and enjoy it rather then it turning into a freaking war.

Thanks,

Good Morning J,

We've interacted on here quite a few times and you seem like a nice cool person from those few interactions. So I'm going to hope that you take what I'm about to say to heart and know I mean it with kindness. 💜

I saw these pictures this morning. And my only response was to gush over their pretty smiles and be jealous of their producer getting 4 entire selcas with them all to himself! And honestly, anything more than that, anything where you feel like anyone is ruining taekook for you, is too far and not okay. When you find yourself starting to resent or not enjoy or only think of the backlash when ANY of the members interact, you need to check yourself and your behavior as a fan. Maybe take some steps back from everything while you process why and how you are feeling that way. And until you can come back to it with the understanding that NOTHING shippers do have any bearing on what the relationship and interactions are between the members. And not enjoying ANY of their bonds (regardless of if said bond is your favorite or not) will have you start bordering with the edge of anti behavior and is how those people you claim ruined a bond for you started out too. Don't go down that path.

You end your comment by saying let the guys have their moment and enjoy it. But can you say that you are giving advice that you yourself need to take as well? You aren't letting taekook have their moment. You yourself are coming here to a blog and bringing jimin into a taekook moment yourself and saying they would pick Jimin over each other. That's really just.... not cool. Let taekook have their moment and enjoy their moment as it is. They aren't responsible for their cultists being lunatics. I 100% understand the frustration tkkrs bring. Because they are horrible people who say horrible things about the other members, especially Jimin. But a reminder post here about how taekook and tkkrs are completely different and your reactions to them should be as well

Would it help if I remind you that ALL shippers can at times suck? If you can enjoy vmin despite the fact that I've seen some vminnies say some really shady awful shit about JK and Jikook, then the same should apply to taekook. Same for if you can enjoy jinkook despite the bullshit they too have said about JM and jikook. Same for some jikookers and the vile shit I've seem them say about Tae and taekook. If you want to DM me, I'd be more than willing to share those things. They aren't as big as a ship group or as loud. But they are there. Just check out report accounts for ALL the members and you can see it. I've even seen namjiners say shitty things about jikook before.

Every shipper group has its bad apples. They aren't all the same and tkkrs are a HUGE major problem. The things they did today are a HUGE major issue and problem. It's disgusting. Something should be done. I hope one day they feel great shame over their whole tkkr experience. But NONE OF THAT has anything to do with taekook, nor should impact how you see or interact with taekook content. If it does, then that's honestly on you and only you. You letting taekookers ruin taekook moments is on you, not them. Let them ruin their own fun. Be outraged at their bullshit. But don't let them impact BTS and your experiences with them. Block them. Curate your timeline. Report them to the company if it's needed and to various SM platforms when that's needed. But STOP searching for what they will say. STOP giving them the attention and reactions they want. Read up about how one should engage with cults if you must too. Lol but don't let their shittiness impact how wonderful the members friendships with each other are.

Sorry if I was harsh. But honestly, with all jkkrs talk about how taekook would hate this and would always pick Jimin. Jimin would HATE seeing this type of message about anyone not enjoying the cuteness of his babies for any reason. Those are his people. He ADORE them. Bet if he saw that selca at some point just adored how happy his babies looked. So can we just refrain from this sort of stuff PLEASE. Can we recognize the difference between ship and shippers. Can we enjoy without bias and without any blockages in our hearts? Please!

Again, sorry if I was harsh. I promise I do understand the frustration we all have with tkkrs and how horrible they usually are. I promise I do. Just please make sure we always keep that seperate from our members.

Thank you. Sorry, but I'll always want to defend taekook too here. And this felt like a needed reminder for EVERYONE. I'm not singling anyone out.

#taekook are jms babies #tkkrs are toxic it just is what it is #tkk are not responsible for their shippers #show only love its what the members deserve

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kanmom51 · 1 year

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Hi Kanmom,

I have a theory I would like your take on. Of course as a theory, it’s my opinion, yet I rarely see any Jikook blogs or obviously Army blogs speak to, actually I see most Jikook blogs vehemently deny the notion.

My opinion is that the Tae kook ship acts as a protection for Jikook. (I know you must be tired of hearing of taekookers)

Here is the moment that made me have this opinion solidified, well enough that I have it in my head as a theory.

In the infamous New Jersey Live. I remember watching it for the first time after seeing an analysis video that someone was in the room.

Anyway, like I always do I watch OG content and noticed something strange, which was Tae’s actions.

He came in the room, for the first time to me as a viewer, considering he didn’t know who’s room it was.

Anyways, fast forward someone speaks in the background and Tae in turn says “Weren’t we sharing the same room?” to JK.

Of all questionable Jikook moments this is the one that has me like ?????? and it isn’t even Jikook lol.

But then I thought about it from Tae’s perspective.

He clearly knows JK whispering to someone in the bathroom(fact). And, honestly like a good friend, he tries to cover it up (my opinion).

What I find interesting is that his way of kinda “not revealing” the secret or divert attention is by drawing attention to him and JK. That’s interesting, and I don’t understand why there is no thoughts on that.

My opinion is that Tae maybe was trying to normalize the behavior, and he thought well if I say we’re sharing a room, then ppl will focus on that instead of the secret rendezvous in the bathroom.

Which leads me to a bigger theory: Taekook normalizes Jikook.(totally my opinion)

imagine Jikook being a strong force, imo taekook is a strong force in the opposite direction.

I think if taekook wasn’t around, Jikook would stand out like a sore thumb. There are the first to negate even the most obvious Jikook moments. In my baby army stage even when every logical part of my brain was screaming there’s something up with these two, I watched taekook videos to shut it down. Like oh it’s just shipping, and move on.

I mean no one wants to even acknowledge the notion taekook acts a diversion for Jikook why? “If taekookers say this. Then I can’t think like this cause tkkers are crazy”

My point ^. The presence of tkkers make Jkkers so insecure all of a sudden they forget Jimin bit JK’s neck and JK sucked his ears.

Anyone feeling like Jikook could be real? Lemme just watch a Taekook video to remind myself I’m just a delulu shipper like them. Hence why I think RM said film a video with Tae after JKs very sis GCF in Tokyo.

Anyway, it’s clear as day to me when vminkook are together. Take the ppyong live. JK came in and the atmosphere changed. JK does a very imo bf thing and moves Hobi to sit next to jimin, then you know it’s all over.

All of a sudden they are kekekeing in a corner and what is Tae’s response? “JK didn’t you and I do boxing something like that”

Which wasn’t true as they said in the same live “lying is his charm” JK just shut it down,

I think Tae is “protecting” them in the best way he knows how, by absolutely trolling the hell out of army.

I think if Jikook accidentally kissed on stage. Hobi would freeze, namjoon would die, yoongi would stare, Jin look away and Tae would just kiss Jk or Jimin to even it out and divert attention lol. Either that or smile idk.

I think that’s his way of protecting them and now that he’s possibly in a relationship, maybe protect himself.

My 2 cents.

@jacha101 I hear you. I do.

I even want to say that in the past I thought it to be somewhat of a possibility. And not in the TKKs sick way of thinking that one queer relationship is showcased (JKK) to protect the second queer relationship (TKK), but more like Tae inserting himself into the mix to balance out the JKK interaction (like putting them on the same level so their interaction doesn't seem too suspicious). More like showing "we're all friends here, nothing queer going on..."

I thought it might be a possibility, even as close back as late 2021 (and only on certain occasions, because on other occasions it was as clear as day that Tae was there to troll them, as in to get in their faces and piss them off, lol).

I have also seen moments where Tae will be gatekeeping Jikook, but I don't think it was in a sense of pushing TKK, but more nudging the two out of a moment.

This one I'm not sure if is policing or trolling, lol.

And if we are talking about trolling...

There are so many more examples of Tae 'inserting' himself or policing Jikook or trolling them, whatever the reason may be.

In any case, unlike you, I don't think that TKK as a ship was ever there to protect JM or JK.

Ok, I think I have to start from the beginning here though.

Shipping two people together does not necessarily mean you see them as a couple. It is a slippery slope and many do ship that way, but as a whole a ship can mean you like the connection between two people, and it can be a totally platonic one at that. Many Vminers are not about Vmin being a couple, and more about their close friendship (although there are those that still live in a dream that it has even been more than that).

So, when we talk about TKK as a ship, if we were talking about normal human beings and not a fucking cult, they could totally be perceived as a cute ship, AS FRIENDS, partners in crime (in the past), and more recently too (bowling buddies, gaming buddies, not going live buddies, cause that was just way too awkward).

If this fandom was constituted from mentally stable people, indeed I could maybe say that at times TKK as a ship can even out the JKK interactions and be used by them to balance things out a little and take the attention off JKK and their very suspicious interactions. Although, while writing those lines I can't help but think to myself that Jikook's chemistry and closeness cannot be compared to TKK's. They are just not the same, no matter which what way you look at them. If you are a person with common sense and life experience (including a basic level of emotional intelligence) you can see there is clearly a difference between the two couplings.

But in any case, you and I know that is not the case. This fandom is flawed, no secret there.

And we also know that the members and company know exactly who TKKs are and what they do and are capable of.

The vile hate JM gets from them is not an unknown. The harassment of whoever shows some sort of closeness or support for Jikook is also not an unknown. Their verbally violent behavior towards anyone who does not fall in line, and that includes JKKs (I'd say that is inconsequential to the company), people that may have interacted with Tae or JK or the two (including different brands or professionals) or even total strangers that they deem relevant to their sick fantasy about JK and Tae. All known to the members and to the company.

I really don't see JK nor Tae going to the lengths of promoting TKK as a ship to hide JKK knowing what they do about the consequences of pushing this ship.

That, by all means, does not mean the two will not interact and showcase their friendship. But JK, for one, has been trying for some time now to make sure the line in the sand is clear, that it's friendship and no more. Tae does not tread as carefully as JK does.

I'll go back to my initial statement. I do think that at times Tae pushed the TKK to 'change the subject' if you may. Or as you put it, take the attention off the Jikook elephant in the room. But many a times it's just Tae being Tae. Trolling both JM and JK and Army at the same time.

I kind of think at times that Tae is an anarchist at heart, lol. Or more so an agent of chaos. He loves to throw the stones and just see where they fall. He'll do it with JM ("I think JM likes men"), he'll do it with JK (take that NJ live and him unwilling to leave all while JK is doing everything possible for him to leave other than say "get the fuck out already"), he'll do it with Jikook ("JM is hanging out with JK") and he does it constantly with army, and I'd say even more so with TKKs. And here comes into work his lack of care as to the consequences of riling them up. I kind of think he, and I'm going to be careful with my wording here, doesn't care for big parts of this fandom (cough TKKs cough), and definitley doesn't think much of them.

If Tae was doing this out of the kindness of his heart or wanting to protect Jikook as a couple or JM and JK as individuals, if that was his objective, then he wouldn't, for instance, post a Jikook photo for Hobi's birthday, for example.

One thing I want to add here.

If TKK were being used to nullify JKK why is it that JK is constantly continuously doing things to show us that Jikook are more than friends? If JK himself wants to show us they are closer, they are just MORE, why would the whole TKK ship be used to nullify that? JK sucked on JM's ear in front of 10s of thousands of fans, knowing he's also being filmed. He wanted us all to see it. JK signed "I love you" to JM at the TMA's, knowing everyone saw it. JK tattooed the J over the M on his ring finger. JK outright said "I love you" to JM for all of us to hear it during the LV tour, and so much more. They have both done so much more to showcase their relationship. They don't want to be balanced out. And even more so knowing what they know about TKKs. JK doesn't want to be thought of as Tae's boyfriend, not when he's going out of his way to show what JM is to him.

At the end of the day, I do get what you're saying, but I don't think that JK nor Tae, nor JM for that matter, are people that would play along with this kind of game.

Ships are a thing, there is no escape from that. And the members know it. I mean they themselves have thrown around ship names once in a while. They are aware of the ships, they are aware of the shippers. Tae doesn't have to go live for 3 minutes, mention JK's name and leave for TKKs to be TKKs. If you get my drift. He didn't do that to balance out some kind of Jikook interaction.

Pretty much since the Busan concert we had close to no Jikook interactions. We got a few Run BTS episodes, which were mostly filmed before the concert. They themselves, until JK's Feb lives, were in radio silence. And once they became loud it was of their own accord, they wanted to be loud. They wanted to show us stuff. They didn't want or need Tae to balance out whatever we were getting from them (and all of this happening without even seeing them in the same frame). Tae showing up in JK's Feb live and the IG TKK live, all those happened during that radio silence period. During a time where the rejoicing sounds of "Jikook are over" were ever so loud. There was no need to push TKK to balance out non existent interactions or suspicions (cause they just weren't there at that point).

What I'm saying here is that Tae is doing whatever he's doing, not to balance out JKK.

And for those that will be coming at me, I'm not saying he did it necessarily to push TKK.

I'm saying he didn't do it to balance out JKK.

His reasons are his, whatever they may be. And there could be a plethora of them: he was bored, he wanted to do the live with a friend, he feels awkward doing the live alone and doing it with JK was a good way of being in touch with army all while not having all the attention on himself, etc.

I will end by saying that they all do love each other dearly. They have over 10 years of together, and although there might be ups and downs in their relationships, they do care greatly for each other and are good friends. Said care/love/friendship is showcased in their interactions with each other. Mostly good, at times not so much (we obviously do not get to see the full picture, and the big fights or blow ups we won't be privy to too much, I mean we just discovered from JK, and still not getting the whole story, that the dumpling fight was way bigger than what we were told for years). JK and Tae are good friends. Mates. And we will be getting a lot of them in the near future, mainly because the others won't be around soon. We need to overcome our adversity to TKKs and remember that this is about TKK, their bond, their friendship, not their shippers.

Karmy know how to enjoy their interactions. We need to be able to create a disconnect between the cult and these two people. They are friends, they interact, they most likely will be supporting each other through their solo debuts. It's about them and us supporting them. Not about demented fans that don't know boundaries or lack common sense. And we also need to remember that both JK and Tae have zero control over these fans, their behavior or actions.

Let's enjoy what they give us before they leave us.

#ask

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sageistrii · 19 days

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Personally, I don't think shippers bias anyone. I don't think they care about the members as individuals in general. They bias the fake relationship created in their mind. Like we saw more outrage from jokers about a random tkkr using "ace duo" to describe tkk than we ever do about jkks or gg stans talking shit about jm.

I'm just going to use this ask as a response to every other ask I got about this. And this will be the only thing I say on this because I knew that post was gonna generate discourse but I never thought it was going to be such drawn out and uninteresting takes that isn't even related to the point of my post. We've had a whole discussion about who jikookers actually bias before, I'm not interested in that conversation anymore.

Y'all need to stop with all these asks talking about biases, every ask I've gotten about my post on jikookers is talking about biases and taekookers and a whole lot of things that was never mentioned in my original post.

My point has nothing to do with which of the member jikookers bias, that's a whole other conversation. My post was just as you read it, regardless of who those jikookers bias. Not all stans respect their fave, the jikookers who do the stuff I was talking about could also be Jimin biased, who knows? Maybe they just don't respect him. A lot of and most jikookers are jimin biased but their perception of him has become warped over the years because of the dynamic that they've created about them but again, that was not the point of my post.

And in reply to your first sentence, shippers always have one member that is or was their original bias and they're still partial to that member, no one becomes a shipper right of the bat. They always start with having a bias and then there's the member they love to see their bias with. They start by claiming that they've become double biased and it moves on into shipping territory, but ALL shippers like one part of their ship more than the other. It is not possible to like two people equally and the member they prefer a little bit more is their bias.

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dearweirdme · 6 months

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https://x.com/PeachyJiminie17/status/1728691406569419170?s=20

I think it's high time we accept the fact that jk has a stronger bond with jm than with tae. When have we ever seen tae and jk being like this with each other in public? Now if you want to say that they don't want the public to think they are together, then we are really behaving like taennies. Coz on one hand we are shouting that they are being loud this whole year and then saying that they can't behave like a couple bcs of enlistment.

This whole jikook trip charade is screaming couple. The way they are joined at the hip and cuddling even at the airport, if someone's that scared of being thought as gay before enlistment they wouldn't really be behaving like this would they? They are recreating that GCF. Now don't come out and say that they don't do anything with shippers in mind coz if you really believe that then you are very delusional. There's no way jk and jm don't know about jikookers. They know they are linked romantically. But if they still do everything that just proves them to be a couple then I don't know why tkk can't do that. If they don't care about jikkrs then why do they care about tkkrs? If they are a "real couple" then they shouldn't really mind being linked together right?

Jm and jk have been closer throughout the years and tkkrs have always dismissed it as "company content". When they took a break and jk said he only met jm and hobi during the break, people said he is lying to protect their privacy. Well how do we know that tae and jk are closer behind the cam when we've only ever assumed that? This year they hung out together coz they were the only members who didn't have any solo activity going on during that time. Everyone else was busy with their albums. And after they released their solo work they weren't once spotted together. Now tkkrs assume that they are together in private when we have literally no proof of that. We get tae hanging out with jk and his friends and we say they are bfs. Everyone gives that namsan date as an example but jm and jk have had similar "dates". How are they any different from those tkk dates?

They are going to enlist now and jk is out in the public cuddling with jm while tae is getting his hair cut. The way jk is with jm is very different from how he is with tae. Tkkrs are consoling themselves by ardently calling it a work trip.

https://x.com/jikook_island/status/1728123862674559324?s=20

https://x.com/ChicknBunny13/status/1726988597495304375?s=20

We say that jk is different with tae. This is how he is with jm almost always. We want to believe that the one or two snippets of them being closer mean that they are always closer behind the cams but even behind the cams jk is closer with jm.

I am really done trying to find any logical explanation of why tae and jk can't be like jk and jm. I know our standard response is that we can "feel it" with their interactions or "see it in their eyes". All of that applies with almost all of jikk moments as well. In all the behind the cam footage we always see tae on his phone in a corner and jk with jm. It's high time we stop calling out bighit for "preferring" jikook coz tkk is real. This narrative doesn't even make sense. Why are they promoting one supposed gay relationship to hide the "real" relationship when jk is a part of both?

And please don't assume that I am a jikkr coz I am definitely not. I have always been a tkkr but the recent events have made me question a lot of my beliefs.

Hi anon!

Feel free to stop being a Tkkr any time. You know my thoughts about it, I don’t particularly enjoy the way you try to police my thoughts. You have obviously seen this whole year in a different way than I have.

Now please get your facts right.

#taekook #straws

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akookminsupporter · 9 months

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Rosie ohmygod I know you don't like talking about the cult but holy shit. I almost feel bad for them after this live omg. The way Jungkook reacted to the living together question was so??? I was cringing so hard ohmygod. If this happened with any ship I think is real I'd just go hide in a hole for a while like???

And people on twitter are trying to make it seem like he was shutting down all shippers but nope. Just one group in particular. Cause as much as I loathe shippers (even jikookers) mentioning ships in lives, I'm sure there were jikook shippers in those comments acting a mess too and he decided to ignore them and shut down the other group. Just wow

Oh, I know, Jungkook was already in a certain mood during that WLIVE, so his deadpan responses were... 😳🫢 the other response that gave me a bit of second-hand embarrassment was when someone said that Tae wanted to do a WLIVE with him and Jungkook said that Tae had never said anything to him, like 😅

The other funny part of this is how they are acting on twitter. Some are distancing themselves from these tkkrs saying that they are the problem and that's why everyone thinks they are the same. Others saying that Jungkook just didn't want to tell the truth because it would expose their relationship (I thought tkk was no longer a secret, that's what the subgroup said a few months ago, no?) and I saw some blaming jikookers for some reason 😭

#ask #the subgrup #jkkrs opinions

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5and3nevermind · 7 months

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People who “believe” in Yoonmin actually think this way:

1. Yoongi is cool and he needs a trophy. What most precious trophy can he have? Ofc Jimin - cute and sexy princess looks good near savage king

2. Taekook is real (bs). We need to attach Jimin to smn who is not Tae and Jk. Yoongi seems the best choice

3. Old married dynamic is funny. So Yoongi and Jimin must be married (tbh Tae and Yoongi have the same dynamic. Even more, Yoongi always talks about how Tae is beautiful and charming and talented and he looks at him with heart eyes. And in 2018-2021 they were forever together. While Jimin receives no compliments (for the last 5 years) and the main insult target. BUT! But Tae is destined to be with Jk, so nope)

4. A rapper needs his vocalist. Well, understandable. Their stage power is insane

It is not a hateful ask. I appreciate your way of discussing Yoonmin (no hate, some interesting points). But it seems to me Yoonmin is 99% a fabricated ship/couple. People who ship Yoonmin are Yoongi-biased or Taekookers. 99% of shippers don’t ship them because of.. Jimin. He is like a toy for them

Ps: I’m not Jikooker. Never was never would be. I was Yoonminer. I just opened my eyes

This is a strange ask because you’re presuming to know how I think, when your points here are things I’ve never said. Not only that, I’ve actually said the exact opposite of these things on more than one occasion. There’s a lot here, but I’ll try to address each point at least briefly.

1. No, Yoongi does not need a trophy, and Jimin is not a trophy. They are each wonderful, complete human beings in their own right.

2. Not sure why you’re telling me this. I don’t consider myself a taekooker (although I am a tkk observer; I think they have an interesting dynamic!) Most of my ym friends/moots are not tkkers either.

3. Gosh, I don’t know where to begin. Yoongi and Jimin both tease each other. It is not a one-way street. And Yoongi has complimented Jimin many, many times, from telling him during pre-debut that he believes in him to saying Jimin’s voice is his favorite. He said just recently that Jimin is a hard worker and a genius. He predicted a bb hot 100 spot for Like Crazy. I could go on and on.

If you watched Ddeun Ddeun, you’d know they discussed their bickering/Tom and Jerry dynamic. Maybe you should consider watching it?

4. I have never known an actual adult who seriously believes this. Is this something people joke about or…? I don’t think people’s professions determine who they are a good match with.

As for your last point, I’m actually Jimin biased.

As for the ship being contrived, if you go through my posts, you’ll see that the majority of them are based on the words that Jimin and Yoongi say themselves. I’m not “analyzing” or spinning elaborate theories. I try to stick to the facts. If those facts aren’t convincing to you, that’s totally fine. But you seem to be making broad assessments of yoonminers in general. I’m not responsible for other people. I can only speak for myself.

Take a stroll around this blog. I hope you’ll see I take a slightly different approach than many shippers. My brain likes lists and facts and putting moments in chronological order so I can understand the trajectory of a relationship. I didn’t pick and choose yoonmin and think they’d be cute together. They offered up information that I could not ignore.

#yoonmin #ask #grumpy anon

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mysmorgasbordoffantabulosa · 5 months

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https://www.tumblr.com/mysmorgasbordoffantabulosa/734970910597136384/hybe-pulled-out-seems-like-such-a-reach-im

"Like he wants to use his status for this, normalizing idols dating" Normalise idols dating how? His paris pap walk isn't normalising anything anon. He's never even acknowledged Jennie's existence before or after that charade. If tae has no bullshit uncaring attitude then the minimum he could have done was use her latest song in one of his lives to show his gf some support.

How can you watch that paris video and not doubt it's authenticity? Yes it was tae, I am not saying it was a cosplayer (the dumbest theory acc to me), but did you not see their body language? I've seen more chemistry between jn and her "friends" than she had with tae. They were out for a walk in Paris during a film festival and the only pap who caught them had a camera from the 1800s? My old Nokia has better picture quality. This wasn't a "statement", it was very clearly thought out and executed coz the blurry footage can be denied very easily later on.

Taennie shippers change narratives as per the situation. The paris walk was them trying to go public but his radio silence ever since is now him trying to keep his relationship private. Make it make sense 🙄. She was being dragged left and right by everyone bcs of that show but tae kept himself as far from her as possible. But acc to your idea of tae he should've spoken in favour of her, shown some sort of support to her.

Do you really have no idea of how real life works? Tae wouldn't do this he wouldn't do that... people do many things that they don't like for work. So many queer artists used to do this back when Hollywood wasn't as open. Sk is very backwards in terms of queer support. Holland is a prime example of that. Not one label was ready to launch him bcs of his sexuality. So pls don't be delusional and think that if tae or any other idol of his stature were to come out they'd be welcomed with open arms.

Unlike you I don't want to assume his sexuality but I will say that tae wouldn't want to attract any unwanted attention during his ms by coming out before enlistment. As for his career, do you really want to believe that people will still support him as much as they do rn if he decided to come out rn? He is at the peak of his career why would he want to jeopardize that?

As for the rest of your ask, admin explained it in detail.

Even if i would have liked to keep living in my delusional taekook bubble -no one's forcing you to believe in tkk. If you want to believe in a relationship that has never been anything but a publicity stunt, you never were a tkkr though were you? If your ship is based off of matching random pieces of jewellery then you do you ig 🤷🏻‍♀️

Here I am again... Piggy-in-the-Middle

Anon of the linked ask, here is another anon responding you said ask... I will respond your response forth-with.... (stay tuned)

#my asks

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arsonkoobi · 1 year

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"hybe uses jikook to cover up the real ship which is taekook"

"hybe forces jk to do fanservice with jm to hide taekook"

"hybe promotes and releases jikook content on purpose to make more money"

these are all widely believed theories among taekookers.

and i think..its absolute garbage.

i was talking to an acquaintance the other day and while on the topic of bts and ships (she's an army+tkkr) she started talking abt how im "kinda dumb for being a jikooker", i asked why, she said "jikook is only used to cover up tkk's real relationship" and proceeded to carry on abt why she thinks so, and i sat and listened while suppressing my laugh bc it was so fucking funny how she wasnt able to provide a single concrete piece of evidence but continued to talk shit. knowing it would never end i got up and left. now im writing this here bc i can never think of a good response immediately lol.

"hybe uses jikook to cover up the real ship which is taekook"

suppose, you possess two gvns, one in your pocket and another at your home. but gvns are illegal w/o a license and you dont have one, the police are chasing you , so you run back home. you need to hide your gvn, you see the other gvn lying around and get a mindblowing idea.

"Let's hide this gvn behind that gvn, they'd never know!"

ofc they got to know. they found it immediately and you got your sentence.

now that you're reading this, you might think thats beyond stupid and no one would do that.

tkkrs existing: ....

bc how the fuck are you supposed to hide a gay ship with another gay ship? the backlash will be the same. the homophobia will be the same. the criticism will be the same. esp when the two ships have a common member. i have nothing else to say other than this is the most nonsensical theory ive heard.

"hybe forces jk to do fanservice with jm to hide taekook"

you guys are making out jungkook to be hybe's little puppet who cant say no to anything the company says. like are you talking about the jungkook who doesnt give a shit abt the company's orders? who will rebel when he feels like it? who will do whatever he wants, whenever he wants? the exact copy of jin? and we all know jin doesnt give a flying fuck abt the company rules lol. and neither do the other members. bts make their own rules. i thought we all established that ages ago? and what would hybe even do if they break rules? fire them? lmao, bts=hybe. hybe couldnt do anything even if they wanted to. besides yall are acting like hybe doesnt have anything better to worry about rather than getting fanservice scripts ready for jikook to follow.🙄

not to mention how yall are absolute shit at reading expressions and body language+actions.

jungkook :

*makes finger hearts and saying i love you to jimin and has done it multiple times before.*

*goes on a trip with ONLY jimin to tokyo, pays for all the expenses and makes a whole gcf abt it with "there for you" as the bgm*

*does an almost 2 hour live completely dedicated to jimin and fanboying over him*

*sucking jimins ear in front of thousands of fans to confort him*

*never forgets to reassure jimin, comfort jimin or give reassuring touches like massages and caresses*

*jungkook going all the way up to the mountain to bring snow for jimin bc he knows jimin loves snow"

*jimin travelling halfway across the world just to make it home just for jungkooks birthday* (and so much more)

yall: ITS FANSERVICE JK AND JM WERE FORCED.

like be fr rn🙄 yall only have a problem when its jikook istg.

this speaks for itself.

"hybe promotes and releases jikook content on purpose to make more money."

this is overwhelmingly stupid. okay so obviously a company would want to make more money, i mean its basically the whole purpose. and a company would choose the most efficient way to make money.

if we bring capitalising on ships into the equation, jikook is not the ship that would make them the most money. why? bc most of the shippers in this fandom are tkkrs. but in recent years, jikook has become the 2nd most popular ship in bangtan. but even so, its still the second best option, if hybe really wanted to take advantage of a ship, then they wouldve promoted taekook as a ship more than jikook bc then more fans would buy official content, there would be more engagements and more attention in general.

clearly these mfs decided to prioritize their ship over bangtan. if there were more taekook moments these mfs would've flocked to stores. also "why couldnt hobi get carried?" . bro. jungkook has literally kissed hobi on the neck/cheek and so has hobi. jungkook said "i never thought id fall for a man" while talking abt hobi in CNS. jungkook and hobi engage in lots of skinship. but i dont see yall calling that fanservice?? simply bc yall dont find koobi a threat to your ship and your fantasies lmao.

Anyways.

so why would hybe force out jikook content to make more money when they can make so much more money out of taekook content? the answer is they dont.

in conclusion, all ships have a lil bit of fanservice in them, be it jikook or taekook. but you cannot call an entire bond fanservice in order to fit your delusions. hiding a gay ship with another gay ship is plain stupidity and you know it. yet you will continue to make yourself believe it bc you dont wanna get your perfect little bubble popped. hybe doesnt control bts. bts are not hybe's puppets, they make their own goddamn rules.

i hope this was helpful in breaking down your delusions, have a good day now👋

edit: i cant believe im having to clarify this but this is not a post dismissing taekook's bond😭😭 i love taekook themselves, i just despise the ones who use the above narratives to "prove" their ship. im a jikooker and this is a jikook centric account, ofc im gonna mention mainly jikook moments here😭 please dont come into my asks fighting me on which ship is real PLEASE. yall only see the members for their ships god.

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wegonbealright-09 · 8 months

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Jimin getting that number gagged everybody hey!

Him going number one on BB100 had everybody chocking on their D. The whole of kpop was gagged, the members were gagged and someone at the company was losing his hair.

The whole of kpop was gagged because the biggest GG in kpop still doesn't have a BB no1 and jimin is considered to not be that popular in SK for certain reasons, him getting something that veteran kpop idols and groups couldn't get so unexpectedly and made it seem so easy gagged them. And I think the members were gagged because as much as he's known to be "the third most biased member" they didn't except that from him, they expected the kind of response Tae got because most of the fandom is tkk shippers and they don't like jimin even the members know that. Them being gagged got them bitter and jealous in the process.

I'm going to start with namjoon for various reasons. This guy last year seemed so done with bts, like he was so done being the leader and he wanted this freedom, he was so excited to go solo. He then released indigo which was beautiful but also mehh. His album pulled better numbers that BTS's own. He was so happy you could see the glow in he's eyes he was genuinely happy. He was considered the next bts by various articles he was so happy. Then face was announced and happened all of sudden he's not satisfied with his numbers he wants to pull more numbers he's releasing Collab after Collab. He released sprite with that girl during the same period and Vibe and then another one during jimin's debut. What was he hoping to achieve, more numbers, more listeners. He then became obviously bitter when LC went number 1 posted a story saying he wrote lyrics. A simple congratulations would have been enough what was he hoping for, recognition? What? He already got a paycheck he's credited as a write we know. He was so done with the group last year he looked so done, in his debut he didn't mention BTS at all literally now all of a sudden he's mentioning BTS every second because being arrogant and idgaf only works for certain members and he started feeling insecure about his numbers after Face, okay.

Then there's Tae who's only friends with jimin when it benefits him. Well he grew up poor( they all did except Jin but this is about him) and as a person who grew up poor like me you try to fit in to get the bag because at all costs you tryna get the bag, you have to secure the bag. But at what cost. He's basically losing himself he doesn't know if wants to be cute, sexy or a bad boy or whatever because his personality is made up he's just fabricated because he's genuinely such a boring person you can tell by his voice. Before FACE when smfpt2 was about to be released he posted something in weverse about looking forward to midnight or something idk. But it was about smfpt2. Then he went missing literally he posted nothing after that, imagine your best friend, your soulmate achieving such a feat and as someone who's chronically online you don't post about it? Tell me how. He was gagged I'm sure he kept on clapping hands every five minutes because he couldn't believe it. How jimin achieved this before his gf's group, how he achieved it when the fandom literally doesn't like him.

Then there's jk and yoongi whom I have a lot to say about but I won't say anything at all because I'm just tired of these two like literally. When's yoongi going to the military like nigga move your scrawny legs to the fking military he's probably not going to be in the field like others because of his shoulder thing meaning he's going to serve more months than others yet he's still here doing lord knows what just go please for the love of God and everything holy just go. Then jeon jungkook I've talked quiet alot about him to the point where my little blog started to feel a bit toxic, and it seemed like I was a jk anti whereas this is just a mere jimin focused blog nothing else. As for Hybe I'm done talking about them hell no.

And as for jimin. I hope he one day gives back the same energy he receives but the reason why he looks younger than all of them and doesn't even need a face routine for glowing skin is because he truly give zero fucks.

Anyways I'm just ranting because whilst having a glass of wine I was thinking and I wish Tumblr had voice record option because typing tires me

#jimin #park jimin #namjoon #yoongi #bts #bangtan #taehyung #jungkook #controversial

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theangryjikooker · 6 months

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do you think Holland is wrong for what he did? i'm witnessing two perspectives from the fandom; 1) is that tkkrs are wrong for asking him about taekook, and 2) Holland is wrong for calling them out by name when it wasn't necessary to do so.

it might just be my bias and hatred for tkkrs but i don't really think Holland was wrong for addressing them by name. i get that involving tae and jk in the matter would be wrong but the way i see it, if Holland had just addressed shippers in general tkkrs would play deaf and continue asking him about taekook. but addressing them by name gets them jumped by others and makes them stop asking him stupid questions, although the downside would be that they'd start harassing him personally for calling them out and he probably didn't know how vile they are otherwise he would've ignored them.

what's your opinion on the matter? i personally get both sides but i would rather tkkrs get called out by name than a general ‘shippers are bad’ situation since not all shippers are as insane and obsessive as taekookers but again, that might just be my own opinion of them 🤷

Yes and no.

If I understand correctly—though correct me if I’m wrong—he was specifically responding to someone asking if he shipped Tkk? Or something to that effect, but Tkk was mentioned. So I’m not surprised that he would mention them in response, as well as generically referring to other ships as an afterthought. I don’t blame Holland in the slightest for feeling fed up by the types of questions he receives about idols and their sexuality, so his choice to address the matter directly is well within his rights.

However, I can also see why he shouldn’t have mentioned it at all. I wouldn’t say I’d fault him, but it’s essentially a risk he undertook by specifically calling them out, as it would be had he mentioned any ship by name considering the context in which that ship was mentioned.

This is where PR training would come in handy, but I also think the question shouldn’t be about Holland as it is about shipping practices and the consequences of it being so widely accepted without a standard of policing.

No RPS should bleed outside of the fandom, whether the resulting commentary is positive or negative. Once it does, stuff like this happens, and the people who do suffer are those who are involuntarily dragged into it. I don’t know how many times it needs to be said, but RPS is a uniquely violating practice, and that will always be the crux of any issue surrounding it.

#TAJ asks #curious anon #not jikook #bts shipping #bts fandom

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stormblessed95 · 1 year

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Well I think you have convinced yourself that everything Jikook does is 'different' from other people, even if it's a regular moment between 2 friend. I guess it was the crying missing in jensoo's case. Maybe one day we will see another idol doing the same or JK himself biting ear of another crying member or something even intimate which is nothing for them but intimate for shippers.

Also in one case biting ear, erogenous area, doesn't matter to you because it lacks crying but in other case, another erogenous area neck being bitten matters. Mhmm 2 different rules. Who says biting on ear doesn't make you feel anything? It gives anyone tickle but nothing much to overreact lol. I bet if Jikook did it randomly your take won't be the same. Jimin biting on his neck maynot even made JK moan..he may simply put him down from spinning, like how Jisoo didn't 'moaned' when jennie bit her erogenous zone. But I don't think that will convince you either.

To add, IF anyone ask jikookers for PROOF 1st set of moments jikookers including you bring up are RB, hickey and GCFT. Out of which 2 is already proven to happen between friends. Tkk often goes private trip (one pic tae posted on his bday last year ) but they are COMPLETELY private and thus no videos like gcft. Also JK almost stopped making videos now. Rest all moments happened between Jikook over the years doesn't prove a shit because 99% of it are something happen between all close friends, including other bts members. Just watch other group contents you can see even wilder moments between 2 members who are just friends.

And NOW your true colors show (not the taekook are private couple talking points. Oh honey). Lol if anything this just shows (again) you don't read my blog because I talked about all of this before. BTS is different from other groups for a reason you know. Also I don't think you read my first response to you either. Because I was very nice. And you came back very rude. AND I didn't say the difference was crying. Lol I didn't mention crying at all 😂 I said the difference and what Jensoo were "missing" was the licking and the sucking.... not the crying. 😂🤣 I'm not here to change your mind or be rude. That one is all on you. I'm just... replying to you. I CAN match energy though if you want next time?

And you didn't ask ME for proof, so don't come yelling to me about jikookers this and that. Lol just because your examples don't hold up doesn't mean you get to throw a tantrum about it. Just say you disagree with me and we all move on happily.

#jikook antis

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denimini · 7 months

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considering he's been the most shipped person in BTS and has suffered a lot of hate from it.

Sorry but you're wrong. Jimin is the most shipped person and the one who suffered the most from this triangle. tkk only get hate when they do something, jm gets daily hate for just breathing.

And jk share a big responsibility for the hate jm gets for not manning up and denying tkk years ago, but let them become bigger and more vile to jm.

I think JK is the most shipped person out there by far, considering he is a part of TKK (the biggest ship) and Jikook (also big). And JK undeniably has suffered a lot from being shipped so much, he's been called a cheater, a liar, oversexualized and reduced to a mere tool more times than I can count. A lot of people also support him as an afterthought because he's a part of their ship and would drop him in a hot second if he "misbehaved"

Jimin is by far the one who got the most hatw because of shippers. No one could deny and no one should even try, but that doesn't mean the others were not affected as well.

Jk and Tae didn't publicly interact more than it was necessary for years, they even admitted to being distant, Tae told people to get out their imagination and yet none of it worked, and Taekook the ship only became bigger. No matter what JK could have done, I don't think he could've stopped it. The cult simply doesn't care for the truth, their have their owt truth and narratives for everything over there. And even if JK wanted to shout out to the whole world that he didn't care for Tae romantically, I don't think he would be allowed. The personal relationship within the group are very important for the their popularity and also, shipping contributes to sales and money, massively.

I think ever since JK was questioned if he even liked JM, he tried to do everything in his power to show how much he cared for JM and how special JM is to him. People just don't want to listen, that's it.

#jikook #kookmin #jimin #jungkook

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sizzlingpatrolfox · 1 year

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noone is thinking tae is with famous girl idol and feeding tkkrs aka jk another famous idol….

he gets slice of both fds…meaning more following, more people tuned into his boring ass music, more money, more fame!!!! this disgusts me sm, no matter how much i think i shouldn't get into anti/dislike whateva mode i cant help! :3 i saw his pattern ever since its2 bam n his pic was released and told to my frnd that we get to see tkk more n more and literally saw him mentioning jk and even showed how they are together etc which made me think im right & after taennie video n ysday his namedropping jk, then those kakao chat room he visits yeww iam DONE with him. im also thinking about jk hmm how he is also fine with all this shit! maybe partners-in-crime is best word. Looks like 2guys messed up sm that other guy is getting bashing lnr from his sexuality to career!!! i can never accept such ppl who knows what fans are saying and then proceed to do shit as though they dgaf. i saw a twt acc which actually made some sense how idols are with their colleagues and they are ready to throw them under bus just to get that nr1 level.

It's okay. You're allowed to not like Taehyung, not liking him doesn't make you an anti. He probably doesn't care that you don't like him, anyways.

I don't have much to say about this... My personal opinion is that Jungkook is okay with all of it because he doesn't have any responsability towards Jimin; they're not dating, they're just friends so he doesn't have to respond or draw boundaries in the way that a partner would stablish.

I agree that Taehyung will actually benefit from this, even if he confirms the relationship. Some fans will leave for sure but not all and some others will say he's being forced by contract or something and the pity parties will begin, and even shippers will stay to support him; they have already turned him into a victim and are being extra about their likes on his posts because they think he should be shown more support in this very gruesome time of his life where he gets to have sex with a hot woman. Pray for Taehyung 😢

But he is not going to confirm in the foreseeable future, so he will keep benefitting from the support of those who believe he's dating Jungkook, and those who know he's dating Jennie.

Jennie has by farrr a wider audience; blackpink were never confined to the kpop world and the group the way BTS were. They've had their solo debuts years ago, fashion gigs, Jennie and Jisoo have had acting roles. Jennie's audience is potentially a whole different and new audience for Taehyung too.

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I don’t know if you have answered this question before but what do you think of that interview in 2014 or 2015 where bts were at a radio station and Jimin was asked why he likes Jk so much and Tae said “I think he likes men” and after that, there was a fansign where Jimin asked Jk to come sit by him and Tae told Jimin he had a mental problem (cuz in south korea gay people are considered to have mental problems) and Jimin told Tae “I’m not like that with you”. This is something that always confused me because if we are being honest, that was Tae literally outing Jimin for liking men and Jk in particular since he made this statement twice and when Jimin and Jk were involved. I understand that Tae might have been battling internalized homophobia of something but from the way he sounded back then it seems like he clearly knew that Jimin liked guys and that Jk was the guy Jimin liked and Jimin’s responses both times too could actually cement this thought. The first time, Jimin responded with “I don’t like you” and the second time Jimin said “ I’m not like that with you” or “I don’t feel that way for you”. Not once did Jimin try to get defensive and deny liking men lol. The only thing he could say at that point was “I don’t like you”. So don’t u think that Jimin might have at some point really had feelings for Jk? Cuz watching older content will make u see that Jimin was almost annoyingly obsessed with Jk and even though on camera it seemed like Jk wasn’t up for it at all, it seemed like behind the cameras it was a completely different story cuz we got Jimin saying that Jk would go to him when he thought he was sleeping and say “i’m sorry for bullying you on camera hyung, I Love you” and Jimin also mentioned that Jk usually hugs him to sleep. Plus during festa 2014, we had Rm and Jin telling us Jk went to sleep in Jimin’s bed, plus Jk saying he and Jimin were all nighter friends who spent most of their nights together. Watching Jk’s reaction to Jimin infront of the camera back then, anyone would have thought Jk couldn’t stand Jimin but everytime we had some information of how they behaved when the cameras weren’t rolling, it seemed like those two were actually so glued to each other. I also remember that Live Tae did in 2015 where he and Jimin were sharing a hotel room and he mentioned that the three of them had to do a live together but Jimin and Jk were hanging out.

So my question is, if Jimin had feelings for Jk (which I believe he did) how do u think this whole thing would have worked with Taekook being together and Jimin still being so close to them?

Hi anon!

I can’t really answer this can I, cause you are basically asking me to answer this while taking your perspective of Jimin having feelings for Jk.. which I personally don’t believe in. So I would have to do a huge hypothetical here, while somehow also inserting my believe in Taekook. I just can’t.

I have talked about those moments before and yes, i do think Tae possibly had internalized homophobia.. which is super sad for himself. I think it’s obvious that Tae has grown into a beautiful, caring, considerate man. Him and Jimin are friends, have always been friends, I absolutely don’t think Tae outed Jimin there. Tae is not the only one having said comments like that, somewhere along the lines comments about members being a ‘pair’ or ‘couple’ (also not only reserved for Jimin and Jk) have changed in shippers views from being offensive to being proof.

Members tell each other all sort of things, everyone calls each other handsome and cute and whatnot. That is the fanservice anon. Sure they might also think of each other as handsome and cute and whatnot.. but the way they all throw it around.. that’s for us (except Jk stuttering out the Taehyungyhung is very handsome 😁, you are on a Tkk blog you know).

I think a lot is enlarged is fandom. You say glued together, I say they are best friends. I don’t think there was ever a time Jk couldn’t stand Jimin, I do think there was a time Jk didn’t like Jimin acting as a hyung too much (not for Jkk reasons, for being a teenager reasons).

Jimin and Jk have formed a lovely friendship along the years. They’re super close, they have gone through a lot together as bandmates and friends. They know what each other’s troubles have been (both having insecurities, dealing with pressure, etc). Their closeness is reflected a lot in banter, but also physically in easily given comforting actions. Jimin is quick to touch (everyone) and Jk being one of his best friends and his junior means he is often the recipient of those touches. I get a lot of ‘but if Tae is Jk’s boyfriend why would Jimin and Jk be so disrespectful in front of him’. Well, Tae does not always like that and it shows! But there’s also moments he doesn’t care, why? Because those men know each other. The have lived in real close quarters together, they have gone through hardships together, they work together on a physical level (sportsculture hi) which breaks certain boundaries as well. Tae knows Jimin isn’t going to steal Jk from him.

Not sure if this is what you were looking for, but here you go.

#taekook #and I wasn’t even planning on doing straws today #felt inspired #😂#straws

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