#this is about trans gwen

[t4tails]

you know queer coding is obvious when even your parents pick up on it

#og post #this is about trans gwen #and my mom

[sleepygaymerdisease]

[ID: Tweets from Emily 'Soup Lesbian' Gwen (@theemilygwen) on twitter with the following text:

Well, just left a job interview crying because the hiring manager told me they liked my application but were disappointed that I didn't bother dressing appropriately. I tried to explain that I haven't been able to afford new clothes in years but I just couldn't handle it.

That comment and my reaction was one of the most mortifying moments of my life. I thought I put together a decent outfit for the job with what I had, and hearing her say that just destroyed me.

Anyway I'm still looking for work and struggling a lot. Even $5 would help pay for a meal. ko-fi.com/emilygwen

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Please help Emily Gwen, the creator of the lesbian flag. If you show me that you donated any amount I will draw you something. You can also support them by buying something from their Threadless store!

#emily gwen has been so influential to me and i would really appreciate any donations sent their way 💖 #BEFORE ANYONE SAYS ANYTHING: emily gwen uses they/them pronouns. their flag is intended to be trans+nonbinary inclusive AND ace inclusive. #please do not spread rumors about them to avoid donating :( support lesbians! especially one who has been so influential #anis gaymer moments

[kita-shinsukes-hand-holder]

I hate you mfs that don't like Gwen after across the spider verse it smells like misogyny

#i liked her MORE after atsv #like yeah she needs to apologize to miles duh #but why is she not allowed to make mistakes without being villanized #ive heard more people talk about how bad gwen is than fucking Miguel #shes CLEARLY being influenced if not manipulated by Miguel and jess #shes only doing those things because she wants to PROTECT miles #she doesnt want what Miguel is saying to be true #like yall im p sure she fully accepted that her dad was going to die #they had to have said some shit to make her accept that #and at the end shes trying to right her wrongs #shes become such a more nuanced character than she was in the first movie #why are you guys fucking stupid #AND shes trans shes literally amazing #gwen stacy #spiderverse #spider man across the spider verse #across the spiderverse #spider gwen #marvel

[beaulesbian]

Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse (2023)

#atsv #atsvedit #spiderman #across the spiderverse #miles morales #ganke lee #hobie brown #gwen stacy #spidermanedit #spiderman across the spiderverse #me when i see a parallel: i have to immediately make some gifs #i just kept thinking about this line hobie says to gwen about his shoes and then i started rewatching the movie to make a different edit #and hear almost the same exact words in the beginning of the movie with miles and ganke #its almost like gwen could have added “cant help it if we're the same size” - it was left unsaid but it was there !! #something something gwen is trans (and/or hobie being genderqueer) and they have the same size and its just nice #mine #gif:spiderman

[prentissology]

gwen being trans and her dad accepting her for it, but not for spiderwoman is like, morbidly hilarious because it’s a copy paste of that one tiktok audio where it goes: “god may forgive you for being gay but NO ONE will forgive you for that haircut”

#god may forgive you for being gay but NO ONE will forgive you for being a vigilante #all i do is talk about gwen stacy and lie #across the spiderverse #atsv #spiderverse #gwen stacy #spider gwen #this also raises the fact that gwen had to go through the crisis of realizing her dad supported her for being trans but not being a SPIDER #across the spiderverse spoilers

[punkeropercyjackson]

I know it's hypocritical of me since i've said i hate that Gwen and Margo scene but the idea of Hobie being jealous of Ganke is so fucking funny to me.Obviously he wouldn't be a dick to him because that's unpunk but i'm just imagining it like:

Miles and Ganke:*Happily talking in Btsv and casually showing how close they are*

Gwen,raising an eyebrow at Hobie:What's with you?

Hobie:*Eye twitching violently through his mask*I don't know.But i don't like him

Gwen:You mean Ganke?Why?

Pavitr,who knows damn hell Hobie has a crush on Miles and that he's being sincere that he dosen't know he's jealous:

#i know for a fact he'd have a crisis over it.because idk about comics hobie but movie hobie RADIATES rarely gets crushes energy(aspec swag) #so he wouldn't know what romantic jealousy feels like.he's heard descriptions from his friends but has never experienced it himself #and when he does he's just wondering what the fuck is going on.he'll be fine though miles and ganke stopped crushing inbetween movies #punkflower #t4t punkflower #hobie brown #miles morales #gwen stacy #pavitr prabhakar #spiderband #ace hobie #team dad hobie #trans hobie brown #unlabeled hobie brown #autistic hobie brown #bi miles morales #autistic miles morales #trans miles morales #mirasol morales #< tagging that because i was thinking of my transmasc4transfem verse for them specifically when i came up with this #trans gwen stacy #black gwen stacy #autistic gwen stacy #transhet pavitr prabhakar #adhd pavitr prabhakar #atsv #btsv #spiderman #💌 #summerposting

[onefey]

gwen stacy could literally be wearing three seperate trans pins and a patch that says "trans and proud" in the next movie and ppl would still be like Um Actually She Could Just Be A Cis Ally 🙄🙄 You're Obviously Projecting You Trans People Just Want To Make Everything About Yourself

#like fr does it not occur to cis people the irony of saying 'you're just trying to make everything about yourself' #while trying to shoot down trans ppl talking about a trans coded character #hey bucko maybe take a step back and think about why you're so obsessed with jumping thru hoops to make her Not trans #anyway i really liked how her coding was handled and i wish ppl would stop bein fuckin idiots about it #atsv #across the spiderverse #gwen stacy #spider gwen #might delete this later its kindof venty

[boldlygoingtolidl]

everyone knows that representation matters until it's a minority they don't like, and then it's "shoving it down their throats".

i remember scrolling through youtube shorts when spiderverse 2 came out and watching the same indian youtuber celebrating the inclusion of pavitr prabhakar also make a short talking about the evil "trans agenda" trying to transify gwen stacy

it's really lonely out here. we're just kids having fun

#literally just some headcanons #imagine if people felt the same way about game theory #across the spiderverse #gwen stacy #pavitr prabhakar #trans representation #representation matters #lgbtqia #lgbtq community

[procrastinationaccount]

Look me in the fucking eyes and tell me this girl is not trans

#momentary break from tltposting because it gets more obvious every time I watch this movie #Like. Come on. #And it's so good! For her character and as a spider-man narrative and as trans representation (even if it's not word-of-god canon yet) #atsv #gwen stacy #I know it's pretty much accepted on here but every time I think about the dipshits who complain(ed) #about people pointing out the obvious subtext it makes me so angry. Like did we watch the same movie? What's wrong with you? #I would say 'why are you so resistant to the idea of her character just existing as a trans girl?' but. We know. It just sucks. #The creators should just confirm that she's intended to be trans in the next movie. Like look at this shot there's no way she's not.

[thepunkmuppet]

yeah I relate to these characters no reason no reason

#if you get this we can be friends #if you don’t get this you either haven’t seen these shows/movies you are completely media illiterate or you are cis /j #obviously there are canon trans characters who I love and adore (i mean nimona is canon but yk what I mean) #cal from sex ed barney from dead end and elle from heartstopper to name a few (there only are a few tbf lol) #but it’s about the SUBTEXT my guy #it’s about going “oh my god I don’t know if this was intentional but it speaks to me and if someone else also sees it then I am understood” #iykyk <3 #trans #transgender #transmasc #transfem #non binary #ftm #mtf #transsexual #genderqueer #lgbt #nimona #gwen stacy #spider man into the spiderverse #starkid #team starkid #starkid productions #starship #starship bug #infinity train #infinity train lake #robin scherbatsky #himym #how i met your mother

[cartooncreep]

ATSV SPOILERS!!!

(It’s all allegories and metaphors I know I know but I can only say it that many times until it takes away from the point I’m making. She is trans tho shut up.)

Okay so we all know Gwen Stacy/Spiderwoman is a trans allegory (is trans) right? Right.

I rewatched ATSV today, and I’ll watch it even more no doubt about that. But I’m here to talk about the part of the movie that made me gasp and go “ohh.”

So we already know it’s GWEN who’s trans NOT Peter cause that takes away from her whole allegory AND I don’t care how much of an ally you are - you’re not hanging the trans flag in your room. However, the person I actually wanna focus on here is Peter.

Peter isn’t really introduced to us as someone we should care about, we care about Gwen and her pain of losing Peter but Peter himself? He wasn’t built enough as a character for us to care. He’s shown having dinner with Gwen’s family throughout the years, someone who is implied Gwen isn’t really ever without. Then one day he dies. As he dies in Gwen’s arms he reveals he knew who she was and tells her everything will be okay. Gwen flees the scene upon the arrival of her dad who finds Peters dead body.

Gwen’s father is fixated on the death of Peter, absolutely convinced Spiderwoman killed him. Gwen herself tells her dad that she doesn’t think it was her, a conversation they’ve likely had many times over the years considering. Despite Gwen’s efforts her dad remains almost obsessed over arresting Spiderwoman specifically for Peters death. This sort of thirst for revenge would be better placed if it was his own personal connection who was seemingly murdered, but it wasn’t, it was his daughters best friend. His daughter whom holds no ill will against Spiderwoman and actively encourages her Dad to not try and arrest her. He becomes angry and is convinced he’s correct. This is a lot of anger and DEVOTION (as it’s been years since Peter’s death) to catching someone who only you is convinced killed your…daughter’s…best….friend?

It then culminates with her dad facing her, Spiderwoman, with a gun. In a desperate attempt to save herself she reveals her identity. Her dad is horrified and wavers, but doesn’t fully lower the gun. And then she says the line that made me gasp, “I didn’t kill Peter.”

Peter isn’t her friend in this allegory he’s her dead name, the person she used to present as. Her dad is fighting for the son he thinks he’s lost to a daughter that’s killed him. Peter was there with her throughout her life because it was in fact her that was with Peter, Gwen was always there, Spiderwoman was always there, Gwen just finally came out of hiding.

It’s never explained as to why Peter knew Gwen’s name as he died. What it is is him knowing Gwen is there as the truth, as Spiderwoman - Him AS Gwen, her letting him go as he dies. Leaving Peter, Gwen staying. Him saying “Gwen, it’s all gonna be okay.” Because he knew, he IS Gwen, she IS Spiderwoman, and it IS gonna be all okay.

Idk I just have a lot of feelings

#across the spider verse spoilers #across the spiderverse #spiderman #spiderman atsv #into the spiderverse #gwen stacy #spider woman #spider gwen #peter parker #trans spiderman #trans gwen stacy #I don’t want any hate about this #I don’t need people saying she isn’t trans or whatever #it’s not up for debate #fuck off #spiderverse #marvel

[catabolic-seeds]

I love David and Max as much as the next guy but can we get some more with David and the other campers as well. GWEN TOO!

Either acting as a parental figure, fun uncle/aunt, sibling in some way, or simply just their counselor!! Being an adult figure in their life to help them out with stuff. Silly platonic/familial shenanigans.

David trying to understand their various interests, Gwen having a soft side helping them through something but still being Gwen about it.

David and Preston, David and Nikki, David and Nerris, David and Harrison??? There’s so much potential. We know Gwen and the girls have fun dynamics too!!!

Can we explore . Shake things up a little maybe . No hate on Dadvid for max I love dadvid but let’s ponder more as well. There’s so many fun dynamics to work with when it comes to counselors

#finnleytalks #camp camp #cc david #cc gwen #cc max #camp camp david #camp camp gwen #camp camp max #me personally I’ve been thinking of trans David helping nerris talk about gender #very fun

[waterdroid]

EXTREMELY quick drawing of Gwen that I did after watching Spiderverse. I loved her so much <3

#my art #spiderverse #across the spiderverse #atsv gwen #across the spiderverse gwen #gwen stacy #yes i Obviously used the trans flag. i mean. why wouldnt i. #trans #im going to be thinking about this movie til i die i think. or until the new one comes out.

[vampyearn]

saw a post about how the animators deliberately added masculine undertones to gwen’s character design, and it got me thinking.

we know that after you’ve been bitten your body develops to suit the demands of the bite- usually becoming taller, muscular, senses heightened etc. it would be interesting to see how that transformation adheres to a trans person? would it be affirming, alleviate dysphoria or perhaps even cause distress? the relationship with a super human body in superhero films are usually glossed over (most of the time) and it made me wonder how this experience could impact trans people & their complex connection with their bodies ..esp because you could DEFINITELY read the spiderman plots as trans allegories. becoming spiderman is a concept, the whole message is always “anyone can be spiderman” esp in the spiderverse films.

anyways marvel nerds..help me flesh out this idea because i think it would be a really interesting concept to explore..!!

#gwen stacy #spider gwen #spiderman across the spiderverse #trans gwen #spiderverse #transgender #like. i am a gwen trans truther first and foremost #i like to think it just like. heightens your body’s capabilities (obviously) #but it’s something to think about #because now i want. like to write something abt her experiencing the spider bite transformation within the lens of her being trans #anyways #in conclusion she got that t girl swag #txt #analysis

[cygnus-art]

#yea #across the spiderverse #miguel o'hara #i havent even watched the movie but it looks so good :0 #also apparently he has fangs like....yes sir i will Steal Those Now #those are my fangs now #transmasc #trans #Also i need it to be known that this was based off of a similar meme about gwen stacy being transfem transition goals

[punkeropercyjackson]

We can never have a Spiderverse x Batman event because Duke would see Hobie without his mask and his thought bubbles would be nothing but 'CUTE BOY PRETTY BOY HOT BOY' on repeat for the rest of it.Hobie'd call him 'Sunshine' at one point and Jason'd have to carry Duke afterwards because the nigga deadass blacked out

#maps:why does hobie call you babygirl? duke:how about we just stop talking for a little while? hobie:because he deserves it gwen:*cackling* #solarpunk(comics) #duke thomas #hobie brown #trans duke thomas #autistic duke thomas #trans hobie brown #autistic hobie brown #ace hobie #team dad hobie #unlabeled hobie brown #they can be transmasc or transfem or transneutral or secret four thimgs whatever you want👍🏼 #jason todd #black jason todd #latino jason todd #afrolatino jason supremacy #outlaw!duke #batfam #we are robin #atsv #btsv #spiderman #💌 #blackness #black love #black history month #summerposting #t4t solarpunk