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okay so I had a thought today that made me wonder whether I need to up my meds. but also it's kind of true.
isn't living just really slow motion suicide? some methods just....slower or faster? like a campfire... gives off carcinogens. most medications could potentially kill you. there's no road to take that isn't a dead-end eventually.
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jessmmariano · 10 months
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I was just watching the Gilmore Girls episode where Luke’s uncle dies, specifically the part where Rory asks Luke where Jess is and Luke replies something like, “He’s probably playing basketball or something.” Basketball?? When have we ever seen/heard Jess do anything basketball related? Is Luke just that unaware of Jess’s whereabouts/interests? Or is Jess secretly a basketball lover? So much so that Luke just assumes that’s where he is? And Rory accepts this so easily, too?
Also—in the episode where he gets attacked by a swan he lies and tells Rory he got the bruise ‘throwing around a football with a buddy.’ Football? Buddy? Jess has never been seen playing sports and has no friends outside of Rory, how did she believe this so easily? Or is Jess secretly obsessed with sports, mainly basketball and football, that it was easy for her to believe?? What is the truth????
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stellaluna33 · 27 days
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Watching Bracebridge Dinner, I noticed that Jess is sat directly across from Paris. We even see his reaction to Paris's anachronism rant. Given all the lamenting in the fandom that we don't get to see more of those two interacting, I'm surprised I haven't heard that mentioned before. Do you think the two chatted at all then?
Ooh, interesting! My personal feeling is that I don't THINK so... Jess seemed to be in more of a quiet observational mood that night... and he seems like he would be less likely to strike up a conversation in a large group where people could overhear? Other people- who may or may not be trustworthy- might know that he has Thoughts and Feelings about things! He was more at ease at Rory's house where it was just the three of them. And when Paris saw him at the diner ("Where'd HE come from? You got yourself a little cathouse up there?" 😂) I got the vibe that they weren't really acquainted with each other. But that's just my two cents. It's certainly an interesting possibility to think about!
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emmafallsinlove · 1 year
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saw a tiktok under which one comment said "jess looks at rory like she the only person in the world and logan looks at rory like shes his world". i cant wrap my head around it. Any thoughts?
i actually saw that tiktok video as well! i think people write stuff in the comment section based on what they want to see in regard to who they want to see rory with.
the thing is, to me, jess and rory never faked it and their chemistry were insane because milo and alexis was dating at the time. i saw another comment that said “logan looked at rory, milo looked at alexis” and i 100% agree with that.
while in rory and logan’s case, you can see their acting, but there’s no real… love there? like sure, there is for the characters and there’s a certain of chemistry that makes them work but.
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but that moment right here, now you can argue of the fact that rory looked at jess that way so she was completely in love with him by than, but that’s the basket episode, she was with dean at the time.
so in reality, it’s alexis looking at milo. which i love and i adore because it gives us all of these little moments as this one right here:
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now it’s really hard to catch and i had to watch it a few times but. he says i love you to alexis, trying to capture her attention, and maybe he succeed and we can’t actually see it because the camera is focusing on lorelai & luke’s conversation.
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the way he looks at her here, the little softly “come here” before he kisses her again, you can’t fake it. it’s real. and as the audience you can feel it, you can feel they loved each other very dearly, whatever it was jess / milo looking at rory / alexis, it was real.
and by god how much i love this little scene right here
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the little kiss on her head, the affection he gives her, rory hiding her face in his chest. logan never does that, never touch her like that.
and. that’s another point i’d like to make.
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they’re always always holding hands!! always touching!! rory never had that with logan, at times I thought he just amused by her, find her funny and entertaining in a way but never in love with her. she was a challenge to him. you say i can’t be your boyfriend? fine, i’ll be your boyfriend!
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that moment right here is when he says “okay, fine, i’ll do it” and he’s supposed to be madly in love with her? looking at her as she’s his whole world? well. it doesn’t look like a in love person to me, just a rich ass kid who got an ultimatum and doesn’t wanna lose whatever they’ve going on.
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and here he is just amused by the fact she came to that party with robert.
and another point about jess and rory / alexis and milo:
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they haven’t seen each other in maybe 1 - 2 years since they last spoke? look at their eyes. look how softly and kindly and completely in love they looking at each other. like no time has passed. like for reference – rory came home from being at the bar with logan and his friends but at this moment – logan who? all they can see is each other.
i’ve been sleeping so long in a 20 year dark night and now i see ✨daylight✨, i only see ✨daylight✨
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frazzledsoul · 5 months
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butchjess · 1 year
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thinking about rory, jess and lane realising that paris has a very specific musical taste and has never listened to music outside of her preferred genre and the both of them having a breakdown over ‘how can you not know bowie?’ some may claim it’s far fetched, but i think it fits with how shielded she is from other people, cultures, and lifestyles, for example, her not liking the beat generation because, while she might not be aware of the reason why, the content of its literature was uncomfortable for someone in her position and she was clearly very sheltered as a person. and the three of them deciding to tutor her in culture; rory takes film and tv, jess takes literature, and lane takes music. what do you think?
well the roryparisjesslane friend group idea is very sweeties to me and i do think that paris having MORE friends other than rory would help her (begrudgingly and very slowly) open up to other yk perspectives and ideas outside of what she deemed as respectable or necessary for her ambitions/responsibilities. they’d tutor her in a unintentional way i think they’d just go damn you really live like this? but with everything about her and paris would argue like hell with jess about literature she is not budging on that but austen liking bukowski well its an interesting idea. she still thinks he’s a gross misogynistic pig (which he is) but shes like grumbling well whatever maybeee the lack of restriction and inhibition in his work is something that austen would at the very least find appealing as the conventions and norms of literature in the time she wrote in was something she had to strictly write WITHIN and even then she was still pushing the boundaries on it constantly. but whatever. she’d be much more lenient with music i think just because she doesn’t know as much about it or is as emotionally invested in it but she enjoyed going to the bangles concert with rory she’d say she doesn’t like lane’s weird rock music but she likes the act of listening to music with a friend and sharing that. paris would put up the smallest fight abt films/tv for sure, whenever paris is sleeping over they watch rory’s “essential viewing” vintage films n such well its nice. she wouldnt admit it but its nice.
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chambersofthesea · 1 year
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hi how are you? question for you, do you still want Jess & Rory to be together despite being pregnant with Logan's child? do you think it's fair that Jess changes his WHOLE life just for Rory's sake?
I think the way people view this as some unfair situation on Jess's end is more concerning than the reality of how it would really be, actually.
Firstly, to view Jess's current life as it is as being one that he changed solely for Rory's sake would be false to begin with. Jess didn't change his life for Rory. Rory as a matter of fact, made it plainly clear that she wouldn't agree to his sudden idea to run away together, and in doing so made it obvious that she won't allow him a place in her life as it was back then because of how unsure she was of his own stability regarding his decisions. And I mean, I can't blame her for that? Jess was flighty then. He was still a teenager who was homeless, didn't have a stable income and apart from Luke, had no one else to rely on when Liz was too busy trying to build a new life for herself with a new husband. And Jess as a result of this and his prior reconciliation with Luke, got to a point where he could decide on what he wanted for himself and his own life, which then led to him being the stable, mature adult we managed to see now. During this entire time, we see him go through several meetups with Rory, but even when their last one in season 6 ends on a tragic note, that doesn't make Jess dive off the deep end and become unstable again. This is because regardless of his feelings for Rory or where they stand, whether it's former exes or good friends, Jess's own life is of his making, and it has nothing to do with what Rory chooses to do with her life. And I'm pretty certain that Jess knows this and that Rory would not want to have his life and stability depend on her. We already saw how this went on with Logan, and frankly it's never a long-term solution if the way you lead your life solely depends on your partner.
Which brings me to my next point: I think that Jess would plainly not care if Rory had Logan's child. A lot of fans' obsession with this is so weird and backwards to me because it feels as though you guys push for some weirdly conservative view of life that these characters must lead, despite both Rory and Jess being children to former teen moms. Neither of them have ever known what it's like to have that "white picket fence" American dream of a home life. This is to say that no, I doubt Jess would consider Rory to be any lesser just because she has a child out of wedlock. I think he'd at most feel concern for her and her state, and maybe have some complicated feelings on the parentage of that kid depending on how Logan is as a parent, but I doubt he'd start preaching to Rory about how wrong she is about choosing what to do with her own body and pregnancy. That's frankly none of his business, and Rory was in her 30s by the time AYITL happens. So no, I don't think it wouldn't be fair for Jess to "change his entire life" for Rory because he plainly wouldn't. If Jess wants to be with Rory who would by then be a single mother and Rory would also want that, who am I to say "this is inexcusable" about two characters that are adults?
And lastly, yes I'd still like for them to be together. Rory and Jess are both adults, I think it's time for fans to start treating them as such and realize that these overly simplistic views of what a character "deserves" or doesn't don't matter when that's not what the character in question WANTS. Frankly, I doubt Jess would ever want to have a regular strategic family with anyone, since the way he grew up is far from what is "socially acceptable".
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staliaqueen · 2 months
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I saw that you have a otp tag for Rory and Logan, but don’t have one for literati. Did you want them to end up together? I’m just asking because you’re always making literati edits and I’ve never seen a rogan one from you, so I was a little surprised when I noticed that haha
Oh, yeah, I've gone into this before! I don't really consider myself a literati "shipper", mainly cause I don't really engage in the romantic aspect of their relationship like that, if that makes sense? But I love both Rory and Jess as characters so much and their relationship with each other is really important in examining who they are and how they evolve. So, I consider myself more of a literati studier lol. And, yes, I also do not want them to end up together. Because I don't think it's a fitting ending for either of them (notice how all of my literati gifsets are angsty ones about why they didn't work out). At the end of the day, to me, the truth is that Jess was always going to leave and Rory was never going to be able to look past that. This doesn't make their relationship less meaningful, though. I actually think that Jess, out of all of her boyfriends, had the biggest impact on Rory as a person. Sometimes things are meant to be, but not meant to last.
As for rogan, I do consider myself a shipper, though I don't want them to be endgame, either. My ideal ending is the exact one we got — Rory ending the show single — so I'm pretty happy lol. But if I had to choose one of Rory's boyfriends for her to end up with, I would definitely choose Logan.
I'd actually really like to gif rogan someday, I'm just not as familiar with that part of the show cause I've seen it less. And I also relate to Jess so much that inspiration for edits for him and literati comes quite naturally to me. When I get to season five in my rewatch, though, I'll sure be giffing tons of their moments and might then get some ideas for edits to a song or a quote as well!
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teddypickerry · 2 months
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hi <3 was curious what you thought about ayitl as a whole? do you count it as canon or not?
i think it’s hard to ignore ayitl if you’ve watched it (at least for me). anytime i’m rewatching gg, my whole thought is yup this harvard loving baby is gonna need money for underwear soon enough. it feels veryyyy au/shitty fanfic like though, which is why i get why most people hate it. the whole boyfriend thing with rory DROVE ME UP THS FUCKING WALL. that’s just not her imo. as well as just her in general. and paris a divorcée who thinks she’s in love w tristan???? are you kidding me??? don’t even get me started on lane (or their horrendous outfits).
the only storyline i remotely enjoyed was lorelai’s hike that resulted in the phone call about richard. i honestly can say i enjoyed that. jess becoming the most successful and lorelai (seemingly) getting over her disgust for him was probably my favorite part (the kiss she blew him saved lives). but besides that? i skip just about all of it anytime i rewatch. the fucking musical makes me want to join richard.
(yes, i’m finally getting to these)
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gold-onthe-inside · 2 years
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The class dynamics of the Gilmore Girls fandom are so interesting to me. Specifically the way they view teenage Jess compared to adult Rory. There are a lot of people in this fandom who see Jess committing petty crime as a teenager (who was shipped off to another state all by himself) as the worst thing a person can do. But when Rory, an adult, steals a yacht all of a sudden there is empathy and they can understand her motivations. There are people who criticize this decision she made but they don't pin her entire morality to it the way people do with Jess. Is it that we spend more time with Rory? Or that she goes to "good" schools and comes from a "good" family? I have seen people give her more shit for dropping out of Yale than for committing a felony.
they way the town condemns jess for his ‘crimes’ is so funny and tragic at the same time. they have a town meeting about the chalk outline and police tape prank. he steals 500 baseballs which to me is hilarious especially when you consider that dean is probably in the baseball team. he gets in a fight with chuck presby and all we’re told about it is that chuck’s a jerk. oh, and he stole babette’s giant gnome, probably because he was bored and there was nothing to do in town.
the problem is, outside of rory and lorelai’s perception of him, we know nothing about jess. his relationship with dean seems on the surface to just be that he likes rory and doesn’t think she and dean are a good fit. but dean has a lot of red flags that even lorelai ignores. he’s clingy to the point of obsession. he likes the donna reed show. he doesn’t share a lot of the interests rory has. he gets pissed off that she’s prioritising college over him. in front of rory and lorelai, he’s the perfect boyfriend. but we know there’s another side to him, especially when he marries lindsey.
the point i’m trying to make is that jess only seems like a bad guy because it’s lorelai’s perception of him, when in fact, he voluntarily takes rory book-shopping and he buys her books he thinks she’d like and gives her notes in the margin. he gets along with paris, which dean never does by the way, and he seems to be good friends with lane and her band too. you hear them constantly referencing each other in their schedules but you never actually get to see them dating. paris and jess have all of 2 interactions, both where they genuinely seem to get along. he’s polite to emily and if he hadn’t been late or beaked in the eye by a swan, he might have even won her over. he’s smart and sweet and funny and it’s pretty much life that fucks him over. but because you don’t see the other part as visibly, it’s easier to condemn jess as being the guy that gets into fights and pisses off the town and broke rory’s wrist (which btw is not a big deal. it was a hairline fracture on her wrist and lorelai acts like rory lost an arm).
in comparison, rory is a good kid. everyone says it all the time. she’s nice and polite and bound for harvard and she’s a good student and is gonna be a great journalist. you know her potential, you know she makes good intentioned decisions most of the time. she tries to keep the peace between her mom and her grandparents. so ofc you see how she feels like her life is falling apart because her whole life hinges on that one thing she wants to do in her life and she’s struggling with it. it’s seen as a lapse in judgement. she made a mistake but she’s a good kid. she gets that leniency, but jess never does.
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literatigifs · 2 years
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I don't really understand the logic behind people taking issue with this part. Yes, Jess took her bracelet, knew it was hers and didn't immediately give it back to her. But he's merely shown keeping it in a pocket and twirling it around, it's meant to showcase that he's interested in Rory if he decided he wanted to keep something of hers around before he gave it back. Then once he hears that she's been looking for it, he tries to give it back to her in an unsuspicious way in order to not "reveal" too much about himself (and that he likes her which is why he even kept it in the first place). It's not grand theft? It's a teenage boy with a crush, and it's frankly far from the worst "crime" any character has ever done on this show.
One thing I do find ironic though is how mostly Logan fans focus on this bit in order to find another reason as to why Jess is "creepy and problematic", while their home boy Logan had no problem trying to steal an expensive ornament from Emily's side table, replacing it with an object from another house and almost getting the maid wrongly accused of stealing the ornament and almost getting fired if Lorelai hadn't stepped in. I may find Lorelai's behavior towards Jess a tad erratic in general in season 2, but I can understand why she reacted suddenly towards finding out that Jess had Rory's bracelet on him when Rory tried to find it. So it's a bit funny seeing fans of Logan conveniently forget that Lorelai also didn't find the whole "switching ornaments" bit funny either, to the point where she had to behave like a guardian to a 24 year old young adult who was dating her daughter and was at a dinner at her parents' house.
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the worst part about no children by the mountain goats is that couples like that usually do have children.
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sotwk · 1 year
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Thank you, @middle-earth-tardis! You are as wonderful as this gif I found while trying to find a Jess Mariano gif to share with you (cause I know we both love us some Jess and Gilmore Girls)!
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doverstar · 2 years
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It's so funny to me that the general consensus is that Rory 'deserves better' than Logan because he's a cocky, spoiled playboy who drinks too much (because yeah he is but he's also a TON of great things that antis overlook!). Because I honestly ended up feeling like both Logan AND Jess deserved better than Rory lol. She's deeply, chronically dishonest, entitled, pathetically weak-willed and suggestible, passive aggressive, selfish, loves to let other people take the blame for everything so she can avoid not just conflict but taking responsibility, the literal opposite of resilient, fairly immoral,...etc. She's actually a pretty terrible person in ways that the writers never seem to acknowledge. Just my opinion :)
Hi!
Yeah, I totally agree with all of that. Sometimes it’s like the writers seem to glorify/romanticize Lorelai and Rory as characters just because they’re witty and beautiful. Like, if they’re funny and outwardly ‘cool’ women figures, that makes them right 98% of the time and everyone else is wrong. In my opinion, the revival of the show was good because Rory didn’t get what she wanted. Lorelai’s faults were on full display in AYITL, too, and she suffered relational and emotional consequences and took steps to right those wrongs, and her happy ending was earned, for once, so it was good.
And no, none of the men in the show deserve those two girls. They deserve better. The men are all written with such spice and care, and I don’t dislike a single one. Their lives get more painful by dating a Gilmore Girl.
in my humble opinion as someone who has no idea what it takes to run a successful and nostalgia-inducing show:
The problem with Gilmore Girls has always been that it’s Lorelai and Rory’s world, and it revolves around them. Everyone else just lives in it and either they live well, or they live poorly by the Gilmores’ hands. Lorelai and Rory’s mindsets are clearly all about themselves, and that’s treated as something to celebrate because they’re smart and pretty.
Personally I think Emily Gilmore is the best-written woman on the show, with Mrs. Kim as a close second. :) I love hearing your opinion! Thanks for dropping by!
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emmafallsinlove · 1 year
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but do you think rory stayed up all night reading jess book and she was so excited the whole day for meeting him again?? just walking around emily’s house with a smile on her face / also getting ready like 2 hours before they were supposed to meet and just sat on her bed, looking nervously on her clock and jumps the minute it turns 8pm??? like!!!!! she looked so happy to see him again before logan showed up!!!!!!!!
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jakeperalta · 1 year
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bestie what r ur opinions on literati? and basically all of rory's other love interests?
ok so first off dean: honestly I really enjoyed him and rory in season one I thought they were sweet and it was a shame that some of his better traits (e.g. how he'd share and discuss books with rory) were dismissed later on. into s2-3 obviously it went downhill, I did feel a bit bad for him since rory was very blatantly stringing him along for months but still he just became so annoying and they clearly weren't right for each other. then I briefly had hope in s4 when he and rory started a bit of a friendship, I thought that could be a nice route for their dynamic, until the cheating happened which was just... yikes :/
honorable mention to tristan: I think his relationship with rory could've been fun to explore, although I don't have strong feelings either way
jess: I am not remotely a fan of this relationship :/ I honestly just didn't like him pretty much as soon as he showed up and felt like for the duration of their relationship he never proved me wrong, I don't think he treated rory well at all and as much as he did go on to have (off screen) character development I'm glad she never took him back
quick shoutout to marty djfkdnwnf he was just kinda there BUT his character is important for the fact that matt czuchry initially auditioned for marty so if there was no marty character then there might not be matt as logan so that's a win for me personally <3
then logan is self explanatory of course 🥰
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