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nateofgreat · 1 month

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"What's wrong with the Acolyte being Jedi critical? It's okay to criticize them since they have a monopoly on the Force don't they?"

Okay, let me break this down.

1: The Jedi do not have a monopoly on the Force.

Say, remember the Nightsisters of Dathomir? The dark side cult that the Jedi tolerate. They even go there to negotiate in the Clone Wars without making any threats to their continued existence. The only time they ever come into conflict is when they leave Dathomir to mess with someone else.

They're not the only ones either. The media doesn't focus on it much, but there are dozens of different Force-based organizations in SW (Legends and Disney canon) that the Jedi Order coexists with. There's also the simple fact that the parents of Force sensitive children can simply decline the Jedi's offer which would indicate that there are people in the Galaxy with the Force who live independently from the Jedi.

As it happens the only organization the Jedi are constantly fighting are the Sith and for darn good reasons.

2: What's wrong with being critical of the Jedi?

Let's not split hairs here. The "criticism" the Jedi get nowadays almost always seems to end with, "and that's why they deserved to be exterminated down to the children via Order 66." So, pro-Jedi fans are a bit on guard when they hear that a project is "Jedi critical."

Now, in theory, there's nothing wrong with characters in-universe having disagreements with the Jedi way or having criticisms of them. However, despite the show's claim to not be about "good vs evil" I think it's VERY likely to posit that the Jedi are wholly in the wrong and to blame for the conflict in some manner. While downplaying the actions of the villain on account of them being a victim.

Why do I think that? Because the trailer.

3: "This isn't about good or evil. It's about power and who's allowed to use it."

Right at the climax of the trailer is this line. Which spells pretty clearly that the show is saying that just, doesn't matter if the Jedi are good, because they're also powerful and influential in their own regard. So in the show's mind that means they're the problem.

They might offer a halfhearted condemnation of the serial killer murdering them for no reason but chances are they'll suggest that they're not really the problem: that the Jedi are for being powerful. I've even seen quotes floating around saying that show will ask the question "what if the Sith are really just the underdogs?" when they go around blowing up planets.

As for the question itself. It's likewise silly as the Jedi don't actually persecute other Force traditions or force everyone to join them. They don't even force you to stay once you've joined. So it doesn't seem like they're attempting to control the Force at all. Meanwhile, the Sith want to dominate the Galaxy and either exterminate or enslave any opposing traditions.

So the question itself is self-defeating.

Oh and while I'm here...

4: There is no "endless cycle"

Slightly off-topic but it comes up a lot as a defense of the anti-Jedi mindset. It goes something like, "The Jedi perpetuate an endless cycle of war because the Sith keep coming back!"

First off, it's not the Jedi's fault that some lunatics keep popping back up to try and control the Galaxy. All they do is stop them every time they do.

Secondly, the "cycle" only exists because new books keep getting written. Stories need conflict and thus the Sith are revived over and over again.

Thirdly, please someone try to tell me that this could be avoided if the Jedi let their members marry or something.

And fourthly, the cycle's honestly not that bad because the Jedi just win every time and restore peace to the Galaxy for a long period.

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editfandom · 1 month

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The Acolyte, 2024

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timetodiverge · 1 month

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Mother Aniseya | The Acolyte

#the acolyte #star wars #mother aniseya #aniseya #MOTHER #HER #star wars high republic #the acolyte trailer

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kinias-stuff · 1 month

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Yeah, they all probably gonna have to die, because the jedi aren"t allow to know that the sith are not gone. So don't attach to them (we will cry for sure)

#the acolyte #starwars #the acolyte trailer #i gonna cry

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garden-bug · 1 month

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Was debating whether or not to say anything but fuck it. Gonna give the Acolyte a go actually just to piss off the people who are stupid enough think it’s bad cause it’s diverse.

It’ll be bad cause it’s the television equivalent of fast fashion, not because of the gender or colour of the cast.

I can’t stand how it’s being used to stir up hate in plain sight. They did the same with Ahsoka. I loved that Ahsoka focused on women, but I didn’t like the show cause it was garbage.

Also can we give diverse shows the chance to flop like we STILL GIVE the good old misogynistic man-centric shows the chance to be iconic? Hm?

#Star Wars #the acolyte #the acolyte trailer #save star wars #Ahsoka #Ahsoka series

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weregonnabecoolbeans · 1 month

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Yes i do get irrationally emotional whenever I see the jedi temple before….you know what happened

#the acolyte #the acolyte trailer #star wars #the jedi #the jedi temple #the jedi order #jedi #kate's post

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hebblog · 1 month

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Star Wars | The Acolyte [trailer]

:: THIS! This looks like the StarWars we've been wanting. Something new, something fresh, something with characters we aren't aware of, stories to unfold. THIS LOOKS AMAZING!!!

#star wars #star wars trailer #star wars acolyte #star wars the acolyte #acolyte trailer #the acolyte trailer #Youtube

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ladykagewaki · 1 month

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The Acolyte Trailer Below the Cut 🙂 Looks Great!

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#star wars #the acolyte #The Acolyte Trailer #Youtube

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bigolbard · 1 month

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Oh we are about to be eating so fucking good. I've been waiting for this since the day it was announced

#the acolyte #star wars the acolyte #the acolyte trailer

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pedro-pascal · 1 month

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The Acolyte (2024)

#stars wars #the acolyte #STAR WARS GIRLIES WE ARE SO BACK #as if i had not seen the trailer already at SWC but still lmao #im happy i will be able to gif the 3sec of manny

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nateofgreat · 1 month

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Yep, it sucked.

"This isn't about good or bad (lol yeah right), this is about power and who's allowed to use it." :(

The Jedi: Everyone can! Other Force traditions are allowed and you're free to leave the Jedi if you like. Just please don't murder or oppress people.

The Sith: JUST US OR WE'LL KILL YOU GAHHHHHH!

Case closed I guess. But I have the feeling the show will come to the opposite conclusion or at least suggest that the Jedi are the root cause of the Galaxy's problems when they aren't.

#Star Wars #anti the Acolyte #The Acolyte critical #Pro Jedi #The Jedi Order #The Sith #The Acolyte trailer #I'm sure I'll have more to say once I've absorbed it more

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editfandom · 1 month

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