#terf ideology

[ohara-n-brown]

Hey everyone,

'The New ThoughtCrime' is an anti-trans community detransitioner essay

Just wanted to give a heads up to the FTM community on here that a user named @mewthoughtcrime is trying to repost the 'New ThoughtCrime' think piece from 2017 - tagging it with this such as 'trans man', 'nonbinary' and 'transandrophobia'.

However this blog fails to mention that the main author of said piece is a lesbian who considers herself a detransitioner. While there is nothing at all wrong with that -

the problem more comes from the fact that said author also believes the trans community is a cult.

This quote comes from the author's interview with Genspec - an organization that pretends to be trans supportive, while also believing trans kids are a myth, trans men are just confused teen girls, and pushing the book Irreversible Damage.

The author also believe in the idea of 'cotton-cieling' - a terf dog whistle that implies trans women intend to force lesbians to sleep with 'males who identify as lesbians'.

The think piece is NOT at all about trans men or transandrophobia.

It's about detransitioning from a woman who believes the trans community engages in 'thought reform' - in a way akin to cults.

The piece reads largely inspired by 'Irreversible Damage' - an anti-FTM shred-piece. This is basically J.K Rowling ideology.

They're in their right to repost whatever they want, especially if that piece of writing specifically spoke to them and other detransitioning folk.

However I do think it's incredibly disingenuous and sneaky to not include this information - or the true nature and intention of the work - in the Tumblr post, as the original author was very clear in stating so.

To post such a piece without tagging the detrans community is a disservice to them and a deliberate choice towards us.

The piece is not at all about transandrophobia - the OP is simply mistagging it to target particular groups - mainly, actively transitioning FTM who are looking for community.

This isn't to say you can't read and enjoy the piece, or connect to it. You absolutely can, it's about someones valid personal experience (well - some parts.) that's eloquently written.

What I do not support however is posting such material, purposely and vaguely mistagging it, while not explaining the contents, the context, and the intent of the author clearly.

I believe readers should always be informed about the source and intention of the writers of the information they received.

People should be allowed to make informed choices about what they read and involve themselves in - whether that be trans politics, or reading think pieces online.

That's why I am making this post.

'The New ThoughtCrime' is an Anti-Trans Community think-piece that targets trans men and lesbians by supporting TERF ideology.

Read with that information in mind. With the situation going on now with staff, I think it's important to be on high alert for indoctrination or misleading literature like this.

By all means, read if you like. I was just not at all impressed with the lack of transparency from @mewthoughtcrime when it comes to detailing the actual contents and source of that information.

It's one thing to call the trans community a cult - before turning around and releasing anonymous faceless think-pieces that you spread around without sources or actively informing others of its contents, in order to purposely get a demographic of people who do not wish to interact with you to unwillingly engage in your rhetoric.

As a essay that calls for 'transparency in the trans community' we can first start by lending some transparency to THIS essay.

Stay safe and stay informed y'all ✌🏾

#i wouldn't be making this post if they had been clear about the nature of the piece #the original blog was VERY forthcoming about the intention of the piece so OP should be as well #You claim to want to spread information - but you refuse to include the information about the work you wish to share #For a deliberate and calculated reason #I'm not gonna sit here and let you trick trans people into reading your bull #I wouldn't sit here and let black people get tricked into reading eugenics shit either #Always remember y'all - you are not immune to propaganda #ftm #trans ftm #transgender #trans masc #trans guy #trans man #transphobes #transphobia #terf ideology #trans misogyny #transandrophobia #transmisogny tw #transmisogyny #lgbtq #lgbtqia #lgbt #queer #nonbinary #enby

[decolonize-the-left]

Hey this might be a weird question but you seem to know a lot about the strategies TERFs use and what they're hiding, so I just wanted to ask and you don't have to answer.

Why do so many TERFs have this weird hostility towards bi and ace people? I don't think either of those identities have anything to do with being trans but I've seen so many TERFs who are also biphobic and/or aphobic. My gut instinct was that there was some large overlap between bi/ace people and trans people, but then I've found TERFs give shit to cis bis and aces so I'm not sure if it's that or some other reason. I'm not trans myself but I want to be able to recognize TERF rhetoric to be a better ally to trans people.

A couple reasons.

First one is that hating bis/aces is at the entrance of the TERF pipeline; they utilize this 'soft bigotry' to radicalize LGBTs and it usually looks like this:

To recruit queer ppl first they try to get us to stop considering aces as Oppressed. That's how it starts. They're aren't Doing anything so how can they be oppressed? They don't know what it's like to marginalized....how could they? They're just stealing the spotlight of Actually oppressed ppl

And once you accept that they turn to bisexuals. Who are only half gay, you know? And most of them date men anyway or end up marrying men so like? How the hell would they know what it's like to literally Live oppression 24/7? Do we we really want them to have a voice and speak for those of us that don't have an escape from our oppression?

This works because on the surface TERFS/Radfems appear to care about women and gender equality, which a lot of queer people obviously support. But they exploit those of us that don't know enough about feminism's intersectional (and very gay) history to identify them as bad actors.

From here the person they've targeted will either a- accept this and likewise will eventually also accept that trans oppression isnt real either (fulfilling the TERF's actual goal of recruitment) OR b- they'll realize they've been manipulated and try to deconstruct.

Secondly:

TERFs are white supremacist and their beliefs are founded white supremacist ideology and outdated scientific theories that Support white supremacist rhetoric.

It's called gender-essentialism which is a branch of bio-essentialism which is the belief that the biological body you have has inherent skills and abilities. Racists have used this to deny Black humanity just as TERFs use it to deny the existence of gender diversity.

But nobody is inherently weaker because of a uterus, nor are they bad drivers just because they have a uterus. All women are not good mothers just because they are women. Men are not all abusers just because they are men.

TERFs would have you swallow these beliefs; they're vital to maintaining the Core TERF Value that that trans people aren't Real and people with uteri are always helpless victims to be defended against evil men.

And as white supremacists their goal is to disrupt and destroy minority communities so that we are too divided to unify against legal attacks. TERFs do this from the inside out by putting bis/aces in a different category from the other queers while disguising their bigotry as feminist. They get us to voluntarily undermine and destroy our own movement this way by causing intercommunity "bi/ace discourse" that makes bis/aces out to be an enemy of "real" oppressed people (like transphobic lesbians for example)

Thirdly:

Lots of queer people are feminists which makes us easy targets and that's why they focus on the queer community. Additionally, the queer community has a history of being a threat to the white supremacist establishment so dividing us is vital to their goal of eventually wiping out anyone who isnt cis, straight, white, neurotypical, and able bodied

#asked #answered #white supremacy #whiteness #terf ideology #recognizing bigotry #terf bs #radfem bs #bigotry #equality #queer #lesbian #gay #bisexual #transgender #asexual #aromantic #exclusionist #solidarity #red flags to watch for #lgbtqia

[nothing0fnothing]

I'm so sick of seeing terfs bring up pads and tampons as if they're a sacred resource trans women are stealing from us.

Do I know why a trans woman would buy pads or tampons? No. Do I care? Also no.

They're £3 a box and available in every supermarket, convenience shop and women's toilet in the country. They're not stealing resources from cis women or personally victimising you in any way by buying pads. Grow the fuck up. 💀

#anti terf #fuck terfs #terfs dni #terf ideology #intersectional feminism #feminist #trans inclusion #trans inclusivity #trans inclusive radical feminism #trans women are women #trans rights

[cistematicchaos]

Okay, so one of the reasons you can’t seperate TERF ideology from ableism is because one of the basis’ of their ideology is that bodily autonomy should be restricted from people based on their mental status.

And obviously, we know enough about transness to state it isn’t a mental disorder but I need more people to realize that even if it was a mental disorder, that wouldn’t be a reason to deny trans people community, dignity or resources that have been proven repeatedly and decisively to improve their quality of life. 

Transphobia and ableism, especially when we’re talking about TERF ideology, are so closely bound together you can’t fully separate the two. You want to counter transphobia, you’re going to have to deal with ableism as well and far too many of you are shying away, either because you simply don’t know how to fight ableism or because ableism isn’t actually an issue you care about. Either way, you lose. 

TERFs don’t care about our mental health and never have but we have to fight the ableism in their attacks as well, not just because it’s one of the roots of their ideology but also because ableism is running rampant and needs to be addressed as well. Even ignoring the heavy overlaps between the trans community and disabled community, they’re our comrades and we have to stick up for each other. 

So either stop dodging the issue and speak the hell up or boost the people who are. 

#disability #ableism #actually disabled #mental disabilities #mental illness #mental disorders #trans #transgender #transphobia #TERF #terf ideology #chaos is speaking #anti-terf #what's it called #sanism? i think #that's more directed toward mental disorders and shit #bodily autonomy

[thatqueergarbagerat]

Friendly reminder that:

Terfism is inherently ableist, racist, and misandristic

Transmedicalism is inherently ableist, racist, and classist

Terfism and transmedicalism are very much linked

We as trans people don’t need assimilation and acceptance, we need revolution and community

#terf #terf ideology #transmed #transmedicalism #transmed ideology #transmedicalism ideology #terfs dni #terfs dont touch #discourse #trans #transgender #trans discourse #trans community

[liskantope]

Half a year ago, I got myself involved in a thread which compared trans rights to gay rights and tried to make a case that, in terms of arguments for each, the issues are not as directly comparable as a lot of people seem to think. A lot of my perspective comes from a sort of an empathy I feel with the non- religiously conservative, non- radical feminist motivations for doubting some of what this social movement is pushing for, particularly with regard to its disconnect with how more traditional people view identity categories.

This portion of a recent interview on the YouTube channel Nonzero (see until 47:43) is a stunningly crystal-clear illustration of the attitude and motivation I was trying to describe at the time, so much so that I think it's instructive and kind of fascinating to watch, even if it's almost so extreme and ridiculous as to come across as parody. (Warning: a certain kind of non-conservative, non-TERFy transphobia, which I'll quote bits of below.)

The interviewee, Norman Finkelstein, feels violently averse to using "they/them" pronouns purely because it would be implicitly affirming what in his mind is an untruth. (Presumably he would not want to refer to a male-presenting student as "she" or a female-presenting student as "he", for a similar reason, but this doesn't directly come up.) He appears to have no other motive, but the motive of not liking to "play along" with someone else's factual untruth is plenty for him. There is no particular social conservatism evident in him; he states plainly that he's fine with androgyny, of people dressing/presenting any way they wish, and that stuff doesn't bother him in the slightest, because that doesn't involve saying things that are untrue. Politically and philosophically he is obviously left-leaning, pro-science, and non/anti-religious in most areas: he repeatedly likens affirming someone's gender identity to affirming that the world is flat or that climate change isn't real or "all the craziness you attribute to the Trump base". Not pronouncing things that imply a factual untruth or deny objective reality is sacred to him as a professor and an intellectual, is what he is saying.

Also, this:

I'm not insulting anyone. If I'm calling you a "he", it's not like I'm calling you the N word or I'm calling you a c*** or something. It's just a relatively stable identifier.

Notice how completely uncomprehending Finkelstein is of the notion that not affirming someone's claimed identity (on the basis of what he believes to be objective reality or established definitions of words) could possibly be an insult or convey lack of respect or qualify as dehumanizing treatment of someone else. That a refusal to affirm someone's claimed identity (on the basis that it denies objective reality) is somehow a form of dehumanization is a completely unfathomable concept to many.

Now I find Finkelstein's perspective flawed on at least half a dozen counts, and fallacious on a particular fundamental level in conflating different types of "objective facts" (something that Robert Wright, who takes a much more reasonable, kind, and open-minded agnostic view on all of this, gently tried to push back on him about). I do think Finkelstein had some good points later in the excerpt about not forcing jarring changes in language down everyone's throats -- this is how I feel about artificial and ugly terms like Latinx, for instance, and I would have had some issues with xie/xir and the like becoming widespread nonbinary pronouns -- but in my opinion these points can't be applied well to using singular "they" for nonbinary people. Moreover, Finkelstein comes across as hardly more than a crusty, curmudgeonly jackass throughout, one who proudly and stubbornly adheres to a disagreeable absolutist view and refuses to open his mind to where his defense of that view might be flawed.

(More minor point: in arguing that mispronouning someone isn't a form of insult, he compares it to factually saying someone's hair is white or that their muscular dystrophy will prevent them from running a 4-minute mile. But, while maybe "insult" or "dehumanization" wouldn't be the best way to describe these things, they are certainly rude in certain contexts: you probably shouldn't call attention to someone's hair being white if they are sensitive about aging, for instance. Similarly, calling a nonbinary but male-presenting person "he" is pretty unkind if they don't want to present as male and are sensitive about it. But Finkelstein clearly isn't the kind of person to prioritize others' feelings over his duty towards "objective reality" in this way.)

But I contend that this is simply an extreme and rather dickish version of how tons and tons of people think, because in terms of the history of social justice and civil rights movements, it is brand new for a movement to be so heavily based in the objective truth of internally-felt identities and accusing people of fundamental dehumanization when they refuse to affirm them. And yet, activist rhetoric sounds as if this is simply part of how identities always worked and what dehumanization always meant, rather than something that appeared on the scene just yesterday.

There is certainly still a major constituency of conservatively religious people who believe that everyone should only do with their bodies what their bodies were "created to do" or whatever, but conservative Christianity is very weakened in our culture since it lost the last major culture war, and I think a lot of people in that camp still also fall into the category of finding it incomprehensible nonsense to say that an identity category is whatever each of us says it is and that it's dehumanizing ever to imply otherwise. I believe it's simply a misconception to assume that the pushback against trans activism is comprised mainly of fundamentalists and TERFs. Norman Finkelstein is an (albeit extreme) example of someone who appears to be neither, and my perception at least in the US is that most people are neither, but that a great many Americans, if not a majority, don't really get the "identity is whatever you say it is" concept and at best are bemusedly humoring it as long as it doesn't get too much into their faces.

(On each day of this past weekend, I was in a different public place -- a bar restaurant and a coffee shop -- and overheard part of a conversation about how "the people in such-and-such social group over there all ask about and share pronouns and a bunch of them go by 'they'", and in context this wasn't being attacked in any way, but it was being treated as bemusing and only semi-comprehensible.)

As Tumblr user Bambamramfan once said, people (particularly scientific-minded, non-faith-y people) really don't like to assert things they don't actually believe (don't have time to look up the post right now; the way they phrased it was something like "Americans don't like to lie about what they believe" and it was in the context of lesser-of-two-evils voting, a topic on which I emphatically disagreed with Bambambramfan, but I consider that particular point to be wise). I wish this were more recognized in social justice activism communities in general, and both that more rhetoric were crafted and ideological assumptions were more carefully examined with it in mind.

I'll end by saying, as I've probably said before, that I'm not claiming just because certain ideological assumptions in trans right activism are fundamentally brand new, that they are wrong or shouldn't become adopted by the wider community. Lots of fundamental ideological assumptions that we are obviously better off for making the default, such as "people owning other people is a gross moral evil", were once brand new at least on a society-wide scale. What I complain about is activists completely refusing to acknowledge or even be aware of this novelty, and so refusing to critically examine it, to defend it on its own merits, or to meet others where they're at.

#trans issues #robert wright #transphobia cw #racial slurs #conservative christianity #terf ideology #social justice

[tittyinfinity]

All right-wing bigotry can be boiled down to "I hate this group of people because they were mean to me after I said I already hate this group of people"

#TERF ideology #but also racists homophobes ableists nazis etc #dani

[sometimesraven]

hugely concerning how quickly I'm seeing the 'othering' of queer people in increasing numbers within the trans community. We're not less oppressed or automatically oppressing you just because we don't fit or want to fit into the neat little boxes you've made to please cishet allo society.

I'm seeing good people taken in by this ideology and I just want you to know that queerphobia is rooted very very deeply in transphobia as a whole. Transphobes and homophobes are using you to divide the community because queerness represents the erosion of the systems they've put in place to oppress us all.

There's nothing wrong with calling out racism, misogyny and such within the community but when it steps into outright queerphobia you're just letting your righteous anger fester into unnecessary hatred. Turn your head to the real enemy. Your sideways-punching e-activism is lazy.

#queerphobia #transphobia #transandrophobia #transmisogyny #terf ideology #terf dogwhistles #radical feminism #facists don't care if you identify as queer or trans we're all the same to them

[ofps]

Right Wing Online Feminism: TERF(Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminism)

RADICALISATION OBSERVATION:

Laetitia Ky was originally an activist in the natural hair movement; going internet famous for the art she made with her hair. Always have been a feminist but it was more liberal feminism and aligned with the #MeToo and #NaturalHair movement at the start:

I reached out to the artist to gain some insight into how their radicalization came to be but received no response based on their public social media profile I could indicate their radicalization atthis year with her open support of JK Rowling(who has become the main spokesperson of TERF ideologist):

As of now, she is very public about her connection with TERF ideology and even has a section in public social media dedicated to anonymous testimonials of others who validate the TERF ideology(as well as other movements she supports)

#terf ideology

[nothing0fnothing]

Dylan Mulvaney: I pick my meds up on Tuesday.

Bigots: PILL ADDICTION. PILL ADDICTION. DYLAN MULVANEY JUST ADMITTED TO HAVING A PILL ADDICTION AND SHES SAYING EVERY WOMAN IN THE WORLD ALSO HAS A PILL ADDICTION.

#dylan mulvaney #trans inclusive feminism forever #fuck terfs #terf ideology #transphobes #literal nonsense

[ofps]

Right Wing Online Feminism: TERF(Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminism)

Using some of the listed terms in 'HOW TO SPOT TERF IDEOLOGY' by The CUSU Women’s Campaign I will try to find real-life online examples of their listed TERF dog whistles.

These are only a few of the most common terms associated with Trans ideology that I gained from a singular source but I believe I found a sufficient amount of evidence to validate the claims made by said source.

Observed Nomancluture of Online TERF:

“Gender critical”, discussed above; terfs also often dub themselves “biological women” or “adult human females”, and frequently highlight biological and anatomical signifiers such as “XX” (denoting chromosomes) and parts of reproductive anatomy.

@r/GenderCritical is a Reddit community turned Twitter blog after being banned due to their transphobic controversy. They are backed by @/WomenAreOvarit which is blatantly anti-trans(Example: Their Header image is from a protest against Transwomen in Female designated areas(I could not reverse-image search to find its exact origin)

“RadFem”; terf ideology calls itself “radical feminism” after its origins in parts of the feminist ‘second wave’ and its opposition to what it sees as “liberal feminist” positions of trans inclusion, although in reality there’s nothing “radical” about biological essentialism.

On Twitter, the main accounts that had the term 'radfem' in their account name had several posts relating to anti-trans ideology and/or reposts of other accounts that spoke about TERF ideology topics(e.g 'the trans-women in female bathroom ' debate)

On Tumblr, I had to focus on posts tagged with the term 'radfem', and immediately I was shown either content related to 'transwoman' or about the TERF ideology.

#terf ideology