#sebastian stan nerdist

[jobean12-blog]

I LOVE him in these hats!!!

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#sebastian stan #bucky barnes #the winter soldier #marvel #nerdist #avengers

[monalisamontauk]

#sebastian stan #nerdist #22 movie marathon LA

[silverlullabies]

Y’all sitting there saying Seb was inappropriate (which is dubious because it was Anthony and Winston who made it sexual) but see nothing ironic/hypocritical/ wrong about sending him death threats. 🤔🤔🤔 okay then...

#sebastian stan #anthony mackie #winston duke #nerdist #nerdist interview #bucky barnes #shuri #hypocrites

[lowkeysebastianstan]

let’s talk about basic screenwriting rules and a little thing called chekov’s gun, or planting and payoff.

let me begin by saying that i do not object to sam being captain america, i do think he was the better choice, it’s a big step for representation and both sam and mackie deserve both that and more (crossing my fingers they actually do him justice, but whatever.) with that out of the way, let’s talk screenwriting. 

okay. so christopher markus and stephen mcfeely have graced us with the scripts for all the movies which feature bucky, and sam for that matter. if we disregard post-credit scenes and cameos, those films are ca: tfa, ca: tws, ca: cw, a: iw and a: eg. (in addition does sam feature in a: ou, but tbh i’ve not seen that in so long i cannot really remember how much he’s in it. it doesn’t really matter, let’s move on.)

now, when telling a coherent story, it’s important to keep track of all plot threads, to make them weave in and out, and to focus on what helps you tell the story

there are many ways to do this, but cinema, as an extremely contained type of media is particularly dependant on using every prop or setpiece consciously, and there are some guidelines or rules that make it easier

that helps the screenwriters and the directors to decide what to include in any given scene, what to emphasise, what to steer the audience’s attention towards

this specific rule is called chekov’s gun, or planting and payoff

it’s named for anton chekov, a russian playwright and short-story writer, who is considered to be among the greatest writers of short fiction in history

who said: “If, in the first chapter, you say there is a gun hanging on the wall, you should make quite sure that it is going to be used further on in the story." 

so it’s a rule where information, in form of clues or objects, are given early on, then brought back later. this is also known as foreshadowing

the way it works is that you introduce an object, a word, an image, something that later in the story will be of significance   

then, depending on the amount of time that passes, you either need a reminder

or you don’t

but either way it will give the story a thread that can be followed, sometimes discreetly, sometimes obvious, but that (almost) always results in a natural and rewarding conclusion

it’s the most common way to avoid a “deus ex machina”, aka, a contrived plot device, where the outcome seems unearned and to come out of nowhere (yes, i know sam becomes cap in the comics, that will be addressed further down)

now, again, i have to repeat, i totally agree with the decision to make sam captain america, that is not the point

the point is neither that “ooohhh some of those are from a trailer and a deleted scene, and besides it doesn’t matter bc bucky didn’t pick up the shield in endgame anyway, so”

the point is, however, that the mcu is a contained story that culminated with avengers endgame in 2019. the part of this story that involves captain america, is 100% written, and 80% directed by the same creators, markus and mcfeely, and the russo brothers.

and so one might ask then, when the same people have been in complete control of a cohesive franchise, when they apparently are experienced and celebrated in their field, when they have proven, on occasion, that they are capable in their craft, or, at the very least, not likely to make such a basic mistake as to plant and remind again and again, that one character will pick up the mantle and then at the last second give it to the other.

when they write a character to be tortured and abused, that have never done anything villainous when in control of their own mind, and then claim

“Both of them have picked up [the shield] in the comics; Bucky and Sam. But, when you look back at “The First Avenger” and realize why he was chosen to be the first super soldier, it’s about a certain purity at heart and a certain inner heroism. It’s pretty hard to give it to Bucky. As much as we love him, he is on the dark path and is recovering from that. Sam really is a truly stand up guy. It wasn’t a wildly difficult choice, certainly. I think Bucky has a lot more story as Bucky and as someone headed on a path of atonement. And Sam has ascended into this new role.“

so yeah. it was never about whether or not sam deserves it, that he’s in any way the lesser choice. it’s about how the creators of this franchise had an outlined story, had character arcs decided and then saw that they had, inadvertently or not, created a story with connotations they didn’t dare pursue. so instead of actually following through on their own premise, they pulled away at the end to avert attention from their mistake and seemingly forgot what story they had begun to tell. 

to plant an idea so blatantly as they did when it came to bucky and the shield, knowing that, even if not all, a lot of fans would know about bucky taking the mantle in the comics and then give it to sam, who, even though he also gets it in the comics, hasn’t been set up in that way at all in the mcu. 

again, and i cannot stress this enough lest y’all pull out your pitchforks and have at me, this is not about sam. this is only about markus, mcfeely and joe and anthony russo being bad storytellers that cannot keep to one of the most basic principles in movie making 101 and because of that delivered a crap product. in many more ways than this, but since i felt like wasting a couple of hours, this is what i used as an example. 

as a last note, not only does sam deserve it and is the better choice both in-universe and out, mackie deserves it, no doubt about that. it’s comic canon, just as much as bucky, (although bucky gets it first, just sayin), and it’s a very important stride towards more diversity and representation in the mcu. i support it 100%.

even so, i have to admit, that not only did sebastian also deserve it, but that he’s been kinda screwed over by marvel, the plants weren’t only for bucky, but also for him.

“They sure like to dangle a cheese in front of my nose a lot,” Sebastian Stan said during the Winter Soldier press tour. “They're like 'Oh yeah, that's where you pick up the shield,' and I'm like, 'Yeah, I've heard that one before. There it is again.'” 

In 2016, Stan told Nerdist: “You know, I was sitting there in a room with [Marvel] and basically they were saying to me that this is what’s gonna happen: He’s gonna be the Winter Soldier, and then eventually he’s gonna become Captain America.

imsebastianstan "Excuse me...where's the restroom?" A big thank you and shout out to Casey McBroom shield_labs for making this for me. Will come in handy... #wintersoldier #marvel 

Nov. 28 2016.

#sebastianstanedit #sebstanedit #buckyedit #sebastian stan #avengers: endgame #marvel #mcu #a: eg #a4 #bucky barnes #meta #i guess #it's a mess #im tired #i have to get me a life #and yeah #i wasn't gonna put in a readmore #but im tired of fighting #just #did i make all the gifs specifically for this #you betcha #jfc i need me a life #lisa's post #lisa's gifs #also im obviously satirising #im hoping they'll read it and pick up a tip or two #ya know #again before someone gets their undies in a wad

[sohoharlem]

does anyone have the sebastian stan "controversial" nerdist interview? I can't find it anywhere /// I have never read it. What do you mean with controversial?

Anon to anon.

- Tribeca

#sebastian stan

[notcaycepollard]

I don't use social media at all but I do check my fav tumblr blogs every blue moon. And I was so hype seeing Sebastian Stan again and your tags! But then I saw this interview on Nerdist where he makes a joke about sleeping with Shuri at night? She's 16 in the movie... Like? It's so... Disappointing? Especially as a black fan because of that shit he said about the kneeling for the anthem joke for I, Tonya. Like damn. I don't think he's racist but foot in mouth much? :(

I’m gonna level with you: he probably is racist, he’s definitely ProblematicTM, there’s no two ways around it. he’s a white dude in American society! we’ve* all got ingrained racist thought patterns that require active de-programming! he’s said dumb stuff before and will continue to say dumb stuff in the future, and it’s 100% legit to feel disappointed, but I think this is why it’s dangerous to put your faves on a pedestal, because Your Fave Is Problematic and will always be problematic and this binary of perfect/cancelled leaves no room for people to be stupid messy idiot humans who aren’t that well-versed in social justice concepts and who do say stupid frat-boy bullshit.

*we, here, meaning “white people in Western society”, specifically

idk, you are one thousand percent entitled as a black fan to feel disappointed in him, lbr, it stings when people you admire say stupid shit and let their ass show. I’m not apologising for him, because yeah, he pulls dumb shit, but I think all you can do as a fan is acknowledge that he’s not a perfect human and to engage in that critique, while not also expecting a movie star to be a perfect human just because of how we project our emotions about both them and their characters over their public persona.

#on sebastian stan being an idiot #Anonymous

[fysebastianstan]

The resemblance between Mark Hamill and Sebastian Stan is undeniable. The two actors have been leaning into their “son” and “dad” status on social media in recent months, with Hamill calling him #MySonSebastian and Stan recording a special message for his pops while appearing on Good Morning America. So of course, when we talked to Mark Hamill for The Last Jedi, we had to ask him what sort of Star Wars role his son Sebastian Stan should have if he were to ever to join the galaxy far, far away.

Hamill’s proud of his boy and says he’d be capable of handling any role but notes, “He’s got sort of a ladykiller look, so he’s probably a swaggering womanizer who drinks too much and gambles. I think he’s more like Han Solo than Luke.”

We have to agree with him that Stan could step into a number of roles comfortably, but we think he’d excel at playing that Han Solo-esque character—someone who’s all about the talk and schmoozing. Of course, that’s only if there’s no chance of ever seeing a younger Luke Skywalker on screen again, because Stan should be the number one choice for that.

Unrelated: could Hamill be any more charming? The answer is no.

#mark hamill #sebastian stan #star wars #sebstannews #the neverending father son stan hamill saga #about seb

[himbohargreeves]

God damn, Sebastian Stan. Don't black girls already have enough shit when it comes to being sexualised? That nerdist interview got me mad ngl

He really had to be like that on this day, the day of infinity war.

#why does he always do this while trying to promote his movies #limerickies

[jedigeneral]

He joked about his character having sex with Shuri (who's 16). Here's the interview link He joked about his character having sex with Shuri (who's 16). Here's the interview link nerdist. com / avengers-infinity-war-anthony-mackie-sebastian-stan-winston-duke-interview

Okay yeah that was really uncomfortable to watch... but with that logic we can’t support Mackie either?? Yikes tho...

[capwilsons]

Hey you, I've been away from the internet for a few days cause my WiFi failed, and I saw you answering something about seb Stan. I was hoping you could explain what happened? Thank u so much, love ur blog!!

During the Nerdist interview, seb made a sex joke involving Bucky and shuri (reminder that shuri is 16 at the end of BP when she is fixing Bucky). He then proceeded to make a non-apology apology on instagram. I’m on mobile and it’s like half past midnight here so I don’t really have links, but if you look through either my blog /tagged/seb-stan-faults or @ onyourleftbooob ‘s tumblr (I think their tag is either the same as mine, or it’s /tagged/Sebastian-stan-faults) there is a lot of info on there.

#anon asks #seb Stan faults #also you could go back in my blog over the last day or two #as that’s pretty much all that’s on there #aside from my queue #and a brief discourse on sparkling water

[sohoharlem]

does anyone have the sebastian stan "controversial" nerdist interview? I can't find it anywhere

Anyone know where to find it?

- Tribeca

#sebastian stan