#sam and dean AND each other. god.

[420technoblazeit]

every once in a while i remember how funny crowley and rowena's relationship is. who would win, the demon king of hell or an immortal milf with magic powers

#supernatural #spn #crowley macleod #rowena macleod #rowena spn #crowley spn #the pig squeals #memes #i juts think theyre so funny. u get to season 10 adn it's like ok so now there's two of them. and theyre tryign to manipulate #sam and dean AND each other. god.

[sammygender]

its so so insane how dean has like. the huge fanbase he does. he is AWFUL!!!! i love him truly but im known for loving awful characters in fandoms im used to characters who act like him being viciously hated!!! and the only explanation i can think of is that hes played by jensen ackles (aka pretty white man). theres the fact that the narrative favours dean a lot when hes not actually right (a la s4) but thats not just it because dean is pretty clear-cut presesnted as getting morally greyer to the point of antihero territory in like s9 (where im at) at least. and Yet. he is unproblematic ally king to all??? supportive brother of the century??? Girl what???? do you know who dean winchester is? he is a controlling possessive clingy manipulative aggressive unstable thirty five year old who cant grow past his own damage and never really will because the narrative is perpetuated by the cycles he keeps perpetuating

#thing is like. the narrative corrupts dean under the guise of heroism and makes him worse and worse while it punishes sam under the guise of #justice and hurts him more and more #its like how their most defining moments of hell trauma respectively is dean torturing others and sam getting tortured #dean is The Good One and sam is The Bad One but the narrative pushes dean so much and makes him so angry he breaks and gets worse #and more 'villainous' (bad word). and the narrative hurts sam so much for the crime of being born the bad son that he just becomes more and #more of a victim. at the start of the show dean is michael and sam is lucifer. thats their destined roles. but by season nine dean is cain #and sam is abel. thats what it comes down to. Augh. #and they need to keep being codependent and resurrecting each other and needing each other forever and ever and getting worse and more #damaged in tandem because thats how the show even exists. meta! #and all this is soo like. because in supernatural the narrative is god. god is the author of their book series. Christ #what a show. its SO good despite not being good at all. #spn #oliver talks #supernatural #dean winchester #sam winchester #spn meta

[leatherjacketed]

Sam and Dean don't work with so many fan fiction tropes because they're just too weird. If Sam and Dean woke up handcuffed together, they already stand so close they probably wouldn't even notice. If there was 'only one bed' left in the motel room, they would probably fight obnoxiously over who would take the floor/couch for fifteen minutes before agreeing to just share the bed. And the whole time they'd be trying to give the other more of the blanket/space on the bed because they're just so weird. In a fuck or die situation, Sam and Dean would have no qualms about it whatsoever. Honestly they would probably pop a stiffy from being able to lend their body to ensure the other's survival at their own expense. Like, that's just how they are in the show. Fake dating? These two already act like an old married couple. If they started acting like they were dating, they would barely have to play anything up or do anything different. They're just that weird. Like, I'm telling you. Fan fiction tropes and Sam and Dean don't work. Because they're just so, so weird.

#i try to fall back on fandom cliches when writing these two #but it doesn't work because there's not a universe that exists where i can make them weird about each other. #they're already so weird about each other in the show that i just can't outdo that. not even a slow burn 200K coffee shop AU could do it #i can't give them any more chemistry or weirdness than they have in the show. there's no awkward getting together b/c they're married. #brother fucking husbands is what they are. god help me #i can't make them more intimate than they already are in long looks exchanged on screen. like. what's the point #shipping is about seeking self gratification by seeing something where it isn't. it's about the high of delusion. but sam and dean just... #they're all over the place. they're so WEIRD.

[prettyflyshyguy]

............................................. I'm regretfully writing a fanfic.

It's not gonna be big, but dialogue has been running in my head 24/7 and if I don't write it down I'll explode. Writing is a fun break from drawing besides and I genuinely feel like slowly dissecting other characters is helping me revisit my original stories, and dissect my own characters and bring more continuity and subtlety into them.

#FUCK ALL OF YOU YOU ENABLED ME #i'm kidding i genuinely love you all #but GOD FUCKING DAMNIT #these two just have far too much fun dialogue and since i've been casually watching while i draw its given me more of a character basis to #work off of #and this is like junk food for my soul #the more I write garbage the better I get at writing my own stuff #but the fandom still scares the shit out of me #given I also have a younger brother its fun to examine their relationship and see some parrallels to my own experience #and how family differs from friendships in the dynamic #you get way more baggage from their shared experience growing up #and where they diverge from each other's mindset and approach and how its shaped from the difference in their Older sibling Younger sibling #experiences which is a critical component when they have fights #anyway Dean being the huge “I'M COOL FUCK THE SYSTEM I DO MY OWN THING” then immediately shifting to “yessir three bags full sir” #in 0.5 secconds never gets old #and Sam's perpetual frustration at this hypocrasy sends me #given Sam's entire existense is based around him genuinely wanting to do his own Thing VS Dean tricking himself into going down his own pat #but they both still have that childhood need to be fullfilled by their parents and IF THAT AINT RELATABLE #but they both tackle it so differently due to circumstance #anyway tldr: sibling dynamics fun as hell you go from seamlessly working with each other #to having a massive squabble so fast its very entertaining

[sweetpapercroissant]

actually sam’s the one that sunk his claws in dean. but y’all aren’t ready for that conversation.

#it’s ok tho #i’ll wait #neither of them are really actually as violently possessive of each other as fandom likes to frame them (and with good reason it’s !!!!) #or more accurately even though they may feel that way they don’t/wouldn’t act on it #but especially dean is framed as this crazy jealous bf who will chain sam to his dungeon to keep him from leaving #which is fine if that’s your cup of tea. but canon dean wouldn’t do that #he’d try to guilt trip him maybe maybe even ask him to stay but that would only go on for so long #before he’d give up and let him go. it’s what he does every time #obviously not when sam’s dying but when he wants to leave #and i don’t think canon sam would either #BUT. but but but. #something something about dean’s loyalties changing from john to sam #it’s kinda there in s1 but s2. god. #i also don’t think sam did it consciously like some evil mastermind #but i think some corner of his mind knew he wanted that. dean being sort of unquestionably loyal to him #see also: ‘you can’t just fill that hole with whoever you want’ #supernatural #sam and dean #dean winchester #.txt

[hellhoundlair]

i always forget about the single fucking tear john sheds in the reunion scene in shadow... he was crying... he loves his boys so much...

#its the funniest thing because sams not mad at john and they hug and they make up for one second and it like aww theyre a family again! #*IMMEDIATELY gets the shit best out of them in that one moment of softness and decide they have to split up again* #dean watching sam and john make up and then yelling ''NO!'' when the daeva shows up. god. its less that hes yelling bc sam and john r in #danger and more that the family hes wanted for sam and john to not be at each others throats for them to all be #together again is being swept away. AAAAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhgHHHHHHHHHHHHGHHHHHH

[deanwinchesterpregnant]

I could fix s9 Dean

#you could argue his motivations for the Ezekiel debacle were selfish but I truly think he hates himself too much for that #yes he’s afraid of being alone but my god it’s been beaten into his head since he was a child to never let any harm befall Sammy #and he’s failed so miserably at that lol #and the one time! the ONE TIME that Dean had accepted sam was going to sacrifice himself #he spent upwards of 1000 years trapped with lucifer getting (canonically!) raped! #I’m not saying Dean did THE RIGHT THING especially with the guy who’s bodily autonomy has been violated so many times via possession #I’m just saying IT MAKES SENSE WHY HE DID WHAT HE DID #also since like season 1? 2? dean’s whole thing has been ‘it scares me what I’m willing to do for family’ well! #and he knows he was wrong he is like aware that he was in the wrong #anyway sam said he wouldn’t do the same for Dean and I’m going to be honest. I DON’T BELIEVE HIM #ALSO this was RIGHT after they decided to choose each other instead of boarding up hell #so what was Dean supposed to do LET SAM DIE? FOR NOTHING? it all would’ve been for naught!!!!! #and sam coming back later with ‘you talked me into that’ idk king. that was a 2 way street #SORRY IM SORRY I JUST UNDERSTAND WHY HE DID IT IS ALL #please don’t get mad at me samgirls ilu

[autisticandroids]

DEAN: Cas, I just can't...

[youtube]

dean's perspective on godstiel arc. the way cas failed him. the feeling of abandonment. the obligation to control. affection for cas souring on his tongue as the imaginary idol he built in his mind shatters. the trials and tribulations of being the center of the universe.

that is not my lover and that's not even my friend.

#spn #vid #so. director's commentary. this video is mostly about dean's control issues with a couple of other themes. #like it's both about how dean feels responsible for cas (see: 'clear my name' over 'cas you child why didn't you listen to me' and also #death blaming dean for godstiel (????)) but it's also about how cas used to be someone dean felt he could control and that's no longer true #like cas used to be someone dean felt like he could just get to do anything. and now he's not and that's kind of a shocking revelation that #renders cas mysterious and unknowable and scary #like when dean felt he could control cas. when he felt like they were in it together. then it could just be the two of them against the #rest of the world (we made love in the tower of babel and it fell down). but now cas isn't doing what dean says #and worse: he has other loyalties. loyalty to god/heaven which is NOT acceptable in dean's book. it means there's a part of cas dean can't #have and dean can't deal with that. it's also bound up with another theme of this video which is: dean and cas' relationship is on the #rocks in s6 because sam died and cas didn't and cas didn't fix it and also he's still loyal to angels/god (very different things for cas #but the same to dean) and dean blames them for sam's death. and then sam continues to be not really back for most of s6 so dean's still mad #plus cas and dean haven't seen each other for a year so dean has had tons of time to massage his memories of cas to be more pleasing #so dean has all these idealized memories of cas and a cas who obeyed him when he threatened to withdraw affection and a cas who was alone #in the world and only his and now he's faced with the real cas who values other things higher than dean's approval and has other commitmnts #and he hates that cas for not being the cas in his head who is perfect. and also now that they're having this big conflict dean is denying #that cas was ever anything but his enemy and the object of his hatred. because he's so angry and also because he blames himself for #anything his loves ones do that's outside his control because he has huge control issues so the only way to assuage the guilt is by #denying that cas was ever one of his loved ones #oh and also the montage of dean refusing to help cas/helping very grudgingly/demanding things of cas is there as a contrast. to show that #the ideal cas who needed nothing from dean and did everything dean wanted never existed. he's an invention in dean's mind #and also that sequence is the explanation for WHY cas didn't go to dean (which is what dean's maddest about because it takes away control): #he had no reason to think dean would help. and if dean actually thought about it he'd realize that. but dean's self-image is OFF the WALL #and cas in 4x18 is THEE idealized image of cas because he's breaking ranks to be with dean he's choosing dean and doing what dean wants #because dean is able to get through to him EMOTIONALLY ('we're done') which is what dean likes. rationality is nothing to dean #and dean denies 'are you god' not only because he's denying any former affection for cas. he's also denying that he would ever put anyone #(god. heaven. cas.) in an authority position above himself. only he can be the authority. because he's angry and so all the cracks in his #shell close up. he has to maintain his identity as a Real Man invested in Freedom and Power harder than ever. he can't be told what to do #oh and 'under the bridges of fame it's always nighttime.' that's about dean being The Protagonist. & the consequences cas suffers from that

[ardentpoop]

spn s1 holds almost the exact same appeal that saw (2004) does. if you were unaware

#low-budget. bloody. charmingly bad jokes. unintentionally super gay. soundtrack makes ur dick hard #it's abt.... sam and dean and john all clawed up by the shadow spirits parting ways after a season spent circling each other #faith healer roy le grange's tent and ''god save us from half the people who think they're doing god's work'' #dean saying ''that's my boy'' after sam tells him he stole a car to come rescue him #john being answered to with ''yes sir'' #luther the vampire saying ''why can't you people just leave us alone'' #dean telling sam over the phone that he's right to want his own life and that he's proud of him for standing up to john #like critically speaking s1 is just okay to me (esp compared to the standout that is s2) but it is also very dear to my heart #spn

[quietwingsinthesky]

a fact of this au to me is that Ruby is a lesbian and her interest is in Anna and Sam exclusively and she puts up with Dean and Cas for their sake. especially Dean.

#‘if she’s a lesbian why does she fuck Sam’ it’s sam. next question. #Ruby in s5 getting more and more disillusioned with Lucifer and Cas vice versa with god. I need them to get drunk together. #they would be such a pair honestly. the vibes ever. #it’s just good for Cas to make friends with demons. it enriches his environment. that angel is demon catnip #Crowley. Meg. now Ruby. what is it about him. #I think she gets friendlier with Cas as time goes on. #the same does not apply to dean though they remain mortal enemies forever #but mortal enemies in the way of like. they can rely on each other to be bitches to each other. #‘I am the only one allowed to hurt you’ sort of vibes with a little bit mixed in of ‘also Sam would kill me if I let you die’ #ruby spn

[13x02]

the ending of don't call me shurley is just on another fucking level

#javi.txt #the way sam and dean stare at each other in shock. #metatron's speeches were SO good. and the last shot of him looking at the c amera in. god #its so. #the slow walk up to chuck as everyone and everything is fixed.

[venusmorreu]

I'm on season 9 of supernatural and OH MY GOD WHY DO THEY KEEP FIGHTING ALL THE TIME. YOU GUYS ARE BROTHERS AND EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU TWO KEEP SECRETS FROM EACH OTHER AND IT NEVER WORKS OUT. WHY DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS. JUST BE HONEST

#I'M PISSED ALRIGHT????? JUST TALK TO EACH OTHER #supernatural #spn #supernatural season 9 #spn season 9 #dean winchester #sam winchester #god why do they have to betray each other all the time

[benbraeden-a]

tag drop. more to be added.

#i. character study ‚ heaven and hell are warring inside you‚ always brutal‚ always merciless. #i. team free will 3.0 ‚ we were too young to be playing heroes. #i. sam winchester ‚ you were never made a god‚ but you were remembered. #i. dean winchester ‚ when the laurel grows heavy on your brow‚ where do you lay down the burden. #i. gunchamber ‚ her laughter is the sound that makes flower bloom and her rage is is the thing that burns empires. #i. camaerons ‚ you’re the dawn that rises bloody and wrecks ships in its wake. #i. pohlepen ‚ you’re all bronze and bite‚ all venom and fistfight. #i. fightforbetter ‚ there is only so much flesh and muscle can hold back before her divinity shines. #pv. goldenliight ‚ she tastes like hope. #pv. camaerons ‚ we bit and tore our way into each others hearts‚ but the way we sewed up the wounds was so loving and tender. #pv. pohlepen ‚ she is fierce want‚ blazing ambition and scarlet need all crowned with a burning smile. #pv. fightforbetter ‚ you know that you have made a home in the wilderness of her ribs. #pv. gunchamber ‚ we collided unceremoniously‚ sharp angles clashing and breaking until we eroded our hard exteriors away.

[angelsdean]

the bunker is huge everyone they know should’ve been living there. the full house-ification of spn is what i want. family sitcom hijinks and an ensemble cast bc oh what was that phrase they love to quote? Family don’t end in blood !!!

#for a show that’s constantly says that they sure do put a lot more emphasis and focus on the two dudes related by blood #literally in the later seasons I do not care abt brothers they’re so boring do they even like each other anymore ? unsure #i want Crowley rowena Charlie Kevin Alive-Bobby Jody and the girls mary etc all living in the bunker #like a revolving door of characters they’re not always all there together obvs bc they’ll be away on cases sometimes #but !!!! there are times when it’s a full house and boy is it entertaining #GABRIEL showing up for a weekend that turns into an extended stay #Gabriel-rowena-sam-Eileen polycule #dean-Cas-crowley sexually charged angst #gay bestie sleepovers w Charlie #Kevin and jack staying up all night playing video games #Mary and Claire mirror bonding #god we could’ve had so much good stuff if they’d just. moved away from it being a show abt brothers #also deancas would’ve gone canon in like s12/13 and we’d have married shenanigans #vic.txt

[bisaster-energy]

bitches will hate the later seasons of spn but um...have you considered..no jack? no special sunshine baby you crave ?? sorry but I'd suffer through another 10 seasons of that show if it meant I got to see jack grow and their dads grow with them

#like yeah the lighting in later seasons is terrible #we all love the sexy kripke horror feel #but be realistic. less seasons means EVEN less cas and jack etc #plus seeing those dudes become middle aged instead of kicking the bucket permanently at 30 like hunters do?? mwah #just because the show didn't acknowledge how they changed doesn't mean they... didn't #because there's a difference between where they were and how far they came!! they grew and learned and god they LOVED #they loved each other so much they're family #if it meant i got to see that I'd watch another 5 seasons and 2 reboots #because fuck it'd be worth it it'd be WORTH #FULLY seeing dean go from ''why would an angel rescue me from hell'' to ''i do deserve to be saved'' #to see sam go from desperately trying to be ''normal'' and good and accepting that he isn't just some evil thing #and he IS worthy he's not tainted and he deserves to be a total freak and love it #and cas ohhhh cas will be loved he'll be wanted and be ALLOWED to want and love in return he'd be soft. he'd be happy. #jack can grow up to be whatever the fuck they want. through him their dads will find their shortcomings and try to fix them for his sake #they'll get to experience emotions be a CHILD #get driven to school have movie nights with their family and feel like the luckiest god damn kid in the world #i deserved to see that family dont end in blood #wow this got long #supernatural

[deanwinchesterpregnant]

s1-3 are truly the platonic ideal of supernatural i miss it so much…

#motw to reveal the gothic family horror lore #it’s uninterested in morality but rather depicts actions as how the brothers feel about them #the stakes are SO high. it’s SCARY. there’s no god or angels that can save you #the world is full of monsters yet sam prays every night #trying to outrun this terrifying force #and the love that was there…it doesn’t disappear in the later seasons at all #but it becomes increasingly clear that dean has NO clue how to handle his emotions and he never gets a chance and he just gets angrier #and angrier and I feel the earlier seasons let him and sam get mad and mean and have conflict but #it put them in a spot where ultimately they trusted each other. I MISS THAT #dean selling his souls with absolutely no belief in god btw is insane like #i miss the total lack of deus ex machina #*soul lmao so far as I know dean only has the one