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lavalave · 1 year
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Loved your Monty & Vanessa art, may I request some AYA aged Phineas & Isabella?
Of course!
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-Shh, they're talking-
I'm sorry if you wanted something more romantic :P
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no because even though there's so many things I dislike about aya there is one thing. one thing that absolutely baffles me every time. I get that this was meant to be a cutesy lowkey depressing rom-com esque episode but WHAT.
when Phineas finds out from Nana Shapiro that Isabella is leaving that day for college, he immediately runs to the restaurant and when Vivian tells him that she left already, walks back home dejectedly.
the most obvious problem in that moment (for me, at least) was that Phineas Flynn, extraordinary inventor, our "the only thing that's impossible is impossibility!" dude, just went "oh no she's gone ig I'll never get to tell her that I'm in love with her too :(" I think that might just be me but that has always seemed out of character to me. but then-
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may I remind you that Phineas and Isabella canonically have cellphones? BOTH OF THEM. technically, couldn't Phineas just have called Isabella and asked her to come back and see him before leaving so he could talk to her privately instead of the sequence we got instead (not necessarily complaining about Isabella coming back on her own and the little "oh my gosh it's you" longing stares we got but they could've had them reunite quicker with potentially more screen time for the confession)?
but even then. Baljeet used his cellphone during aya I'm-
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now I'm not saying that the kiddos would voluntarily put themselves in the path of Isabella's rage by telling her that they kinda sorta let one of her biggest secrets spill but seeing that almost everyone was acting out of character in this episode anyways they actually could've gone down that road if they wanted to Baljeet really couldn't have called Isa or texted her? just a simple 'hey phineas wants to talk to you about something' instead of having all the gang go and plan a date without Phineas and Isabella's inputs?? he really couldn't???
basically in short they all have cellphones and they could've just used them to directly communicate to each other this entire time and ajbdkahfkahfm thank you MML for rendering the timelines so that this was just one confession possibility
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galaxina-the-pyro · 2 years
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Legitimately, this is the one scene from “Act Your Age” that absolutely made me cry, and it was followed by this.
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Like…that feels like a giant slap in the face. Isabella is imagining herself in a very painful situation and the episode felt the need to jangle keys in our faces anyway. Mind you I love this image out of context, but it loses its effect IN context - these versions of Isabella and Buford are SMILING while serenading that Isabella is ill and miserable. It’s not enough to turn me off to the song but like…Yeesh. This episode was MEAN to Phineas and Isabella for literally no reason but to create drama.
Part of me feels like AYA was more of a mockery of Phinabella than an actual celebration of it. It constantly tormented Phineas with the fact that EVERYONE but him knew, Isabella was ultimately not allowed to be the one to tell Phineas the truth, and even though they got together in the end it was rushed and they barely interacted in the episode. My OTP deserved BETTER.
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Phineas and Ferb Musical Cliptastic Countdown Hosted by Kelly Osbourne vs. Act Your Age
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Again, you are voting for which episode is better. AKA, less terrible.
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masterdizzi · 7 months
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I SWEAR, this is the best post I have seen in this sub
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radvimes · 1 month
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My Phinabella Headcanon -or- Why Phinabella Wouldn't Drift Apart Before Getting Together
(edit: as a neurodivergent person, I'm probably going to just keep adding to this post, like, forever...)
I know I'm, like, almost a decade late to the party, so I don't know who's left around here to read this, but after watching most of Phineas and Ferb, including AYA, hearing other people's analysis of Phinabella, particularly in light of Isabella's bday episode, the picnic episode, the haunted house episode, NOTLP, and Summer Belongs to You, binging a large amount of Phinabella fanfics and art over the last week, and pondering on all of that, I just really feel the need to write out how I see those 2 crazy kids' relationship progressing through their preteen/teen years and into adulthood.
First off, as a technically inclined male (I'm a software engineer, and always loved tech as a kid) with ADHD/the neurodivergent grab bag who had to train himself to pick up on social cues, particularly cues from the girls in my life, I identify so strongly with Phineas. He is, in many ways, the kid I would have wanted to be growing up. Smart, capable, charismatic, with a good friend group, and best friends with the amazing girl next door. It really sounds like a dream life for an ADHD kid like me.
I bring this up to say that, speaking from experience, those relationships, particularly the ones with Ferb and Isabella, would be everything to Phineas. We see this with how he wants to include as many of his friends as he can in his adventures. We see this in the fact that his adventures and inventions almost always have to do with helping a friend/family member or are inspired by them. And, as the show progresses, we see that this is never more true than with him and Isabella. Yes, it would likely take him a few years to pick up on what Isabella's crush meant, but we can see that, even from a young age, he absolutely recognizes that she is a close friend, wants to spend time with her and do things with/for her more than he does the rest of his friends, and is frequently and regularly attentive to her needs as he perceives them. He recognizes that she is important to him, even if romance isn't consciously a part of that for him when they are younger, which is fine, because he's just a kid. He'll get there. To say it a different way, the kid is neurodivergent, and has his passion projects. Once it registers that she's important to him, that fact becomes a bedrock of his existence, of how he experiences the world. That's just how his brain works. It then becomes a permanent passion project to demonstrate how she is important to him. The important thing is that their foundation of friendship is firmly established, and he will spend the rest of his life building on it if she lets him.
On the other side of that, I think we see, through moments like during Isabella's bday, the picnic, NOTLP, and on the desert island at the end of Summer Belongs to You, that Isabella is beginning to recognize this dynamic. She's learning to accept that he's not there yet romantically, and that the things she's loves about him don't require him to be there yet. She loves his dedication, his attention, and how he brings out the best in her. He always says and does things to build her up and show that she is important to him. He depends on her in many ways, and they always have each other's back and their best interests in heart. She can meet him halfway, accept the good in their relationship as it is, and let it progress naturally. I particularly see this in the desert island moment, when Phineas, who isn't used to things going wrong pretty much ever, finally sputters out and sits down. He could have had a breakdown or an explosive fit that things weren't going his way, could have continued to frantically brainstorm with Ferb, but he didn't. He sat down and quietly sought solace in a peaceful moment alone with Isabella. You can see the mix of emotions she felt as she processed what that moment meant, and then realized that she needed to meet him halfway and inspire him to get back up and keep moving, even though she had just said that she so wanted that quiet moment alone with him. And in so doing, as he leapt back up and gave her a big hug in thanks, that really cemented their relationship all the more. While part of her would love him to reciprocate her crush in similar fashion to how she wants to express her feelings, ultimately, she just wants him to show her she's special to him via preferential treatment, quality one on one time, and words of affirmation, and he can and does do those things all the time. She is learning she can wait for the rest. Also, let's not forget that she's been to the future. She knows that she gets to be Aunt Isabella eventually! Between that and the care that she sees him give her as kids, while it might be hard to wait sometimes, I have to believe that she would stick with her best friend.
The other piece I would throw in here is that, while society often puts a big wall between being friends and being lovers, my experience is that the best romantic relationships are founded on strong friendships first, before infatuation and physical attraction ever enter into the equation in a meaningful way. As such, I think it's really reasonable to assume that their path forward is what I recently saw described as the "friends to idiots to lovers" trope. They would absolutely continue to be best friends, having each other's back and confiding in one another, for years. Isabella would continue to try to profess her feelings from time to time as we saw her do in the show, and Phineas would probably assure her that he likes and appreciates her, too. If she felt down about things from time to time, he would absolutely sense that, even if he didn't understand the complete significance of it, and he would reach out, probably with an invention or adventure or ice cream date or 2, because those things always helped her out of her funks before, and she would appreciate his attentiveness and attention.
Then, somewhere along the line, I imagine that their friendship would naturally begin to evolve into something a bit more tender, though they would both be in denial about it. Isabella would have spent so long telling herself to keep expectations low that she would have conditioned herself not to consciously read too much into anything Phineas says or does, and Phineas would be all "we're just really close friends, this is just how we've always acted". Meanwhile, they, like, eat lunch together every day, work their schedules to have a bunch of the same classes, walk/drive to school together every day, etc. They have a standing weekly movie/dinner night where, over the course of years, they now pretty much always end up snuggling on the couch while Phineas tries out fancy new massage tools and techniques he's developed because he knows Isabella gets sore muscles from sports and Fireside Girl-related activities. They stay over at each other's houses until all hours of the night, and regularly sleep on each other's couches when it gets too late. He gives her lots of hugs when she does something he really appreciates or when she's down. She gives him little chaste kisses on the cheek when he does something particularly thoughtful (the first time she did it, she thought she was pushing the boundaries a little. It quickly became habit). Lots of unconscious hand holding. Of course, regular trips to the ice cream parlor to celebrate or just for a change of scenery. Along the way, he's just always making thoughtful things for her, new sports/outdoor equipment, a custom bike/scooter/car, accessories and stationary with butterflies on them because he noticed that she often makes comments about him giving her butterflies, and he thinks it's some sort of cute inside joke. She starts regularly baking treats for him (and Phineas), and before too long, it seems like there's always something she made on the Flynn-Fletcher kitchen counter/in the shed. They work together to decorate the tree in each of their back yards, and probably also each other's tree houses. Pictures of them together are everywhere, and they kind of just roll their eyes and blush a little about it. No angst is needed, because their love isn't unrequited, it's just not fully recognized. Isabella wouldn't pull away, because as soon as she did, he would notice and reach out to try to understand what's wrong, and to comfort her and raise her spirits, and I truly believe that she would respond positively to that. Love comes in many forms, after all, and they would ensure that they both felt loved. In a lot of ways, they would fairly quickly get to the point where they are a single good DTR away from officially dating, with a lot of momentum in the way of making time for that DTR. On the other hand, as soon as that DTR starts, it's gonna go for hours, because they would both have plenty to say on the topic of their relationship, and I get the sense that both of them would exhibit the neurodivergent trait that this would be a topic of particular interest for them, so they would naturally be inclined to discuss it indefinitely.
As they get older, they both vehemently push back whenever someone makes a reference to their boyfriend/girlfriend, but neither one ever ends up going on a date with anyone else. They either don't go to dances because they have other plans, or they go in a group with, like Ferb, Baljeet, Ginger, and whoever Ferb has asked out that time. Then something happens. Either there's a dance where the rest of the group conveniently goes separately, or someone new makes a comment about them dating, or Ferb or Buford or Candace or someone finally gets tired of it and starts pointing out to Phineas all things they do that are totally the sort of thing you do with a girlfriend. Phineas' immediate reaction is to deny it like always, but then something kind of clicks in his head. It's not that the kid is totally oblivious to romance and dating, he's just never really thought seriously about how it applies to him and Isabella, because they've just always been them, and it's been great. Now, though, as he thinks back, things start to recontextualize in his mind, and he starts to wonder. Some time later, maybe a while as he ruminates on it for a bit, maybe the next time he sees her, he brings it up, mentions that people keep saying they're dating, or that it might look like they are dating, and are they? Should they? What would that change? He's trying to make some sense of the social cues and the intricacies of their relationship, you see. Or maybe this conversation gets triggered by emotions running unusually high and tender at one of their movie nights or something, and maybe they were suddenly looking at each other in a new light, maybe they even kissed. At this, Isabella is shocked and delighted, and asks if he is saying that he wants to define their relationship, if he's asking her to be his girlfriend. She sees it as him actually asking her directly about their relationship for once. He probably responds "well, yeah, kinda, maybe?" She might respond that, really, nothing much has to change, they would get to keep doing what they're doing, just as boyfriend and girlfriend, except that if she's his girlfriend, she can do stuff like this: and then she leans in for a kiss and/or an intentional snuggle, etc.
After that, they are truly insufferable/inseparable. They've been unofficially together for years at that point, after all. Now, it's just open and official and mutually understood how much they really mean to each other, forever. They probably spend a fair bit of time, at least at first, reminiscing about past moments where one or both were oblivious or in denial, thinking about how long they really have loved each other. Again, no angst in these conversations, just some wistfulness about missed opportunities, and joy in their shared history and future.
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Don't get me wrong, I've read many fanfics that I've loved, including "Can't Help Falling In Love", "Is This About a Girl", "Sugar Rush", and "In Two Weeks", that deal with them realizing their feelings and/or confessing to each other after some time pining/growing apart, and what it means/how wholesome it is once they are together. The thing I love most about each of those stories, though, is the way each of them taps into how important their friendship and commitment to each other is to their relationship, and how, no matter the stage of their relationship, Phineas has a singleminded determination to consistently, matter-of-factly, thoughtfully show Isabella how much she means to him through everything he does. I would love to see more stories that explored the "idiots" phase I described above, though, since most of the ones that I have come across that do explore a similar theme do so assuming that separation/pining/unrequited feelings/obliviousness must be part of it, and I don't think it has to be. Speaking as a neurodivergent person, I can say with certainty that he wouldn't be oblivious forever, and the instant he noticed a cue or emotion or comment from her that he didn't understand, or started trying to figure out his own feelings, he would be talking to absolutely everyone about it, trying to get people who understand these things to clue him in on what he's trying to understand, and venting at them about the same. People would clue him in for sure. He'd be relentless in bugging them until they did.
As such, at the end of the day, I just have a hard time seeing them drifting apart in the first place. They are far too committed to each other for either one to bear letting it happen. They embody the sentiment shared by Harry at the end of "When Harry Met Sally": "When you realize you want to spend the rest of your life with someone, you want the rest of your life to start right now!" That, to me, is Phinabella. I welcome your thoughts on this topic.
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captainwaffles · 10 months
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Screw act your age Buford and Baljeet are dating.
Buford was farther in the closet than baljeet. Baljeet knew when he was like 11
Buford knew when he was 12 but tried to ignore it till he was 14
They started kinda seeing each other around 15
They said I love you at 16
They kissed for the first time durning a homecoming dance.
The whole gang is super supportive
Isabella knew right away
She helped Buford come to terms with his feelings
When Buford came out to his mom, she was really supportive.
He takes biff to pride events
They love watching movies together. Baljeet loves seeing Buford explain all the little ideas
They had to go long distance when Buford finally got to College.
Phineas insisted that they let him make them a telaporter but they agreed it would be better not
They broke up when they where in there 20’s
It only lasted for 2 months
They got married at 26.
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doverstardoodles · 1 year
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anyway they went to the same college and canon can bite me
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lesbianjennybrown · 7 months
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I didn’t watch act your age bc I’m cool and awesome and knew it would suck just by looking at it (I am terrified of the official end of anything and don’t watch episodes that give closure to a series I love)
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cipherinator · 1 year
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the "we are guys, we don't talk about our feelings." line in act your age could have been a GENUINELY INTERESTING PLOT POINT ON THE EFFECTS OF TOXIC MASCULINITY OF THE MALE YOUTH but NoOoOoo THROW-AWAY JOKE that was COMPLETELY out of character.
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doverstar · 1 year
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A paltry 2 people have asked why I don't like Act Your Age, SO:
It doesn't feel like a Phineas and Ferb episode at all. It's too dramatic, nothing zany actually happens, Candace isn't even in it. (Yes, I saw her for five seconds on the screen too.) The only part that felt canon was Doofenshmirtz and Perry's subplot.
It feels unfinished and out-of-character. Phineas crushed on Isabella all of high school but never did anything about it? Isabella gave up? That doesn't sound like either one of them. But! I'd have been willing to go with it if they'd explained it or delivered it better. But they didn't.
The Fireside Girls were cringe. Ferbnessa suddenly getting confirmed at the end totally out of the blue, especially on the heels of Montessa doing so well, was cringe. All of the dialogue was basically cringe. It was bland and awkward the whole way through.
The things I did like:
What Might Have Been is such a good song!
Again, Doof and Perry's subplot, perfect.
Incorporating the fandom's unanimous, decade-long headcanon that Ferb talks regularly when he gets older.
Hiring Ashley Simpson to design the main cast of teens! What an homage!
I actually do like the idea that Phineas pined for Isabella in high school and she had no idea, because she had stopped trying so hard after a while so it wasn't even a possibility in her mind. I do like that. [I just don't like that, in-canon, it's made so that between the two of them, they basically stopped being consistent friends and never communicated, and that's the reason they never got together. Ridiculous.]
The episode was basically a love letter to the fans, in a way, which you can clearly see with all the pandering in it, and I appreciate that! But in the end, I personally would have rather seen what Dan and Swampy could have done with a teenage!PnF episode that made Phinabella canon without the fandom's influence. Just theirs. A purely Phineas-and-Ferb-esque episode that wasn't trying to do anything for the fans, just write a good story for their characters. (In my opinion, that's Night of the Living Pharmacists. To me that's the Phinabella episode, made all the better because it's not primarily about Phineas and Isabella.)
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phineasfuckingflynn · 10 days
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u ever get sooooo angry about how bullshit aya was
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irradiatedsnakes · 8 months
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i think? it's been said there's going to be more exploration of the teen/aya vers of the characters in the pnf reboot and i am dreading that for a number of reasons but especially the relationship between a 17/18 year old and a 26 year old whose fucking idea was this
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pftones3482 · 1 year
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you make a good point (re the tags on the most skippable pnf episode poll) about the cliptastic countdown with kelly osbourne making aya look good in comparison. genuinely made me realise how bad it was 😭
Like genuinely it could have been fun, but the dialogue was awkward, the animation was just straight up bad, and the "plot" was weak at best. And WHY were Monogram and Doof like three times the size of Kelly? Kelly is an adult, just like they are, they should NOT be so much larger than her.
Like for comparison okay, here's Kelly, Doof, and Monogram:
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It just....looks BAD
But in comparison, here's Jack Black on the set of Take Two with Phineas and Ferb:
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Obviously animating 2D characters next to real people is not an easy task. But Phineas and Ferb look like....reasonably sized. Jack Black is not ridiculously small compared to them.
"Bex, Jack Black is bigger than Kelly, and the boys are smaller than Doof and Monogram!" Okay fine, here's Candace with Taylor Swift, who would be much closer in terms of height/weight/age (Taylor was in her early 20s when this episode aired):
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Proportions obviously can't be matched evenly, or the PnF characters would look wrong. But the 2D characters look near NORMAL next to the Take Two guest stars compared to the second cliptastic countdown. Even the backgrounds in the C.C. are too big for Kelly - because they were sizing them for the characters, instead of sizing things to the IRL guest star or making the C.C. set in the real world and animating Doof and Monogram in (which I think was a big component in making T.T. look realistic, and could have saved the C.C.).
I just have so many problems with that special, I physically cannot get through it. AYA, at least, has good animation
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masterdizzi · 8 months
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I am so used to Tumblr's distaste for AYA, this caught me offguard
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Washing Machine
Phineas: hey hey heyy <3
Isabella: hi hi hii <3
Phineas: GUESS WHAT
Isabella: ??
Phineas: did you know that ”washing machine” isn’t a generic term for the laundry cleaner and dishes?
Isabella: .
Isabella: I’m coming home
Phineas: nOOOO IT’S NOT THAT BAD I SWEAR
Phineas: the plates just smell like fresh linen
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