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Do we have any Jane Austen + Crowley interactions fic in this household?
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We have a #jane austen tag, the last post on which features a couple. But here is a post dedicated to Crowley & Jane Austen fics...
Goodbye, Dear Jane by siephilde42 (T)
Aziraphale asks Crowley if he has ever gotten attached to another person, and Crowley admits that he grew quite fond of a certain author. Crowley feels guilty because he never properly said goodbye to her, so Aziraphale proposes a trip through time.
well-versed in etiquette, extraordinarily nice by laiqualaurelote (G)
Once she had said to him, hoping to probe: “It is a truth universally acknowledged that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife.”
To which Mr Crowley had only responded: “What do you know of the universe, Miss Austen?”
In which Jane Austen, criminal mastermind and aspiring novelist, pulls off the 1810 Clerkenwell Diamond Robbery, with the help of a certain demon.
All those truths (some not so universally acknowledged) by strawberriesandtophats (E)
In which Aziraphale and Crowley meet up at a party during the Regency Period and have a great time eavesdropping on a certain famous author.
Literature and Liquor by Tossukka (T)
The year is 1809. Crowley’s friend Jane is a master smuggler of both goods and information who seems to know exactly who people are and how they act. She asks Crowley’s help with a larger robbery she has been planning, and Crowley agrees without hesitation. Meanwhile Aziraphale has been helping her friend, a brilliant author Miss Austen revise her novel manuscripts in the hopes that they could one day be published for the wider audiences. Aziraphale finds the books witty, innovative character studies of British gentry, but getting a romance novel written by a woman published in the early 1800s would take a real miracle.
When Aziraphale accompanies Jane to a ball, they run into Crowley, and all three are surprised by the other two being acquainted. Although the angel and the demon are happy to not poke further into each other’s businesses with Miss Austen, Jane seems to be convinced her two friends are in the middle of a great love story like from one of her novels and need some encouragement to admit their true feelings.
'Not Enough to Tempt Me' by ZephyrOfAllTrades (T)
Aziraphale found a new friend. A budding writer who unfortunately dabbles in matchmaking. It was all fun and games until she reunited with a familiar red-headed demon.
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A, G, O, T (seth)
A : AFFECTION. how does your muse show affection?
essencialmente, com atos de serviço. ele é extremamente protetivo das pessoas que ama e, nos últimos anos, tenta sempre colocar elas como prioridade e fazer o que pode pra que não passem nenhum tipo de trabalho. imagino que o seth vá se pegar uma hora ou outra fazendo várias coisas pra facilitar a vida da kirsten, por menores que sejam, como preparar um café da manhã pra ela quando ele precisa sair mais cedo, ou levar pra consertar sem ela pedir algo que estava estragado. as demonstrações dele são muito mais em formas de ações que verbais.
G : GIFT. is your muse good at gift - giving or do they struggle to get it right?
ele tem boa intenção, mas eu sinceramente não consigo ver o seth sendo tão bom assim com essas coisas. imagino ele quebrando completamente a cabeça pra dar alguma coisa pra kirsten no futuro, porque não vai achar que as opções e ideias vão ser boas o suficiente e ficar totalmente embaralhado com isso. acho de verdade que ele é muito melhor com situações mais esporádicas e espontâneas - nesse sentido -, como presentear a pessoa com algo que no mesmo instante em que viu se lembrou dela.
O : ODE. does your muse have a way with words?
o seth é uma pessoa extremamente direta na maior parte das vezes, então, por um ângulo, ele até tem jeito com as palavras - a irmã mais nova dele, a julia, inclusive fala sempre que ele deveria segurar um pouco mais algumas coisas. mas, porém, contudo... com o que realmente importa, por exemplo, fazer uma declaração pra alguém que ele ame, eu imagino ele travando completamente e não conseguindo encontrar as palavras exatas tão facilmente. justamente por não ser algo com que ele tá usualmente acostumado a lidar, heh.
T : TRUE LOVE. does your muse believe in true love?
na verdade, sim, e muito. nunca vivenciou um relacionamento com um amor ou ligação fortes o suficiente pra ter uma comprovação vinda diretamente de suas próprias experiências, mas, seth acredita na existência do amor verdadeiro. ter escutado durante tantos anos o avô contando sobre o casamento, falando com tanto amor da esposa já falecida, marcou muito o seth - e, mesmo nunca tendo conhecido essa avó, era como se conhecesse pelas histórias do avô. no fundo, a pose de quem não liga pra essas coisas é pura fachada, porque ele né beeeeeem romântico no off ijidjsjdajsijdsad e acredita que casamento tem que ser pra ser, e não só algo impulsivo (o que contém ironia considerando o plot).
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Rizzoli and Isles is actually a show about a Queerplatonic Relationship.
Okay hear me out.
So, I always have shipped Rizzles. There are many MANY ways in which these are queer coded characters with a heavy romantic subtext, that a lot of the time honestly bleeds into the maintext. A lot of the actions and dialogue that we would typically interpret as romantic, especially between a hetero pairing, certainly works for this show.
But I did a re-watch of the show recently, and while I still ship them romantically, I actually think what is being portrayed between them is something else. They are DEFINITELY more than friends; I mean they are life partners in every sense of the word. But the kind of dynamic that is CANONICALLY portrayed between Maura and Jane, is in fact, a Queerplatonic Relationship.
So here’s a working definition of the term for those who aren’t familiar with it:
Queerplatonic relationships and queerplatonic partnerships are committed intimate relationships which are not romantic in nature. They may differ from usual close friendships by having more explicit commitment, validation, status, structure, and norms, similar to a conventional romantic relationship
I have actually experienced something like this, (and yes I’m going to get a bit anecdotally personal here; I’ll try not to be too long winded, but it’s relevant, I promise lol):
I had an (unspoken) kind of relationship like this with my best friend in my early/mid 20s. We have been best friends since I was 11, but something definitely shifted when we became adults, and I have to say, I ended up, quite unexpectedly, being deeply in love with my best friend...platonically. I didn’t want to date her. I didn’t want to sleep with her. But, I was totally devoted to her and we were each other’s person for years. We were each other’s assumed plus one for everything, we regularly did dinner dates, we gave each other super sentimental cards and specialized gifts on birthdays, we also regularly did domestic shit together like grocery shopping, errands, chores, house projects; you name it, we had it/did it. I mean we were even each other’s phone background for a while lmao. We never lived together, but we had keys to each other’s places.
Now a lot of this shit can happen and does happen in standard friendships (maybe not the phone background thing; that was super gay ngl hahaha), but the thing that made this different was the level of assumed partnership going on between us. And the...energy. We would stare deeply into each other’s eyes. We had that magnetic kind of magic with each other, like no matter where the other is in the room, we find our way back to each other. And people literally perceived us as a couple. Hell, my other friends teased us about it.
Any of this sound familiar?
Oh and I DO find her to be attractive and even sexy. And we flirted (still do lolol) a LOT.
But I didn’t ever really.....actually want to have sex with her. Not that I would’ve even necessarily been opposed to it, because we were so close, but it just, wasn’t ever a desire for me.
This was interesting to experience, because I do identify as a lesbian, I have been romantically attracted to people, sexually attracted to people, and the two, as society expects, do usually go hand in hand for me. But with her, I honestly could’ve seen forever; like being exactly as we were, as life partners, I could’ve even seen myself raising kids with her, and I would have been TOTALLY, GENUINELY content with it, ‘cause my relationship with her filled me up in a way nothing else has. This was confusing as all hell to me for a long time, because I didn’t have a name for this until recently when I learned about the concept of Queerplatonic Relationships which again supersede friendship and often are life partnerships, but aren’t inherently romantic or sexual, even though they are quite deep. I actually think QPRs speak to that “limitless” “otherwise undefinable” kind of relationship dynamic.
Sooo - and I promise I’m wrapping my story up - when my bff met her current boyfriend, which is her first super serious adult relationship, I didn’t quite experience jealousy, I mean I always envisioned a romantic partnership for her, and I still want that for me! Buuuut...my feelings were complicated because it’s like...I had to mourn what I lost, as our dynamic inherently changed, and the fact that I wasn’t her person anymore. Weird thing to process indeed. Also *ahem* SOUND FAMILIAR?
Without getting too carried away here (oh who am I kidding, I already have 😂) for comparison’s sake, I actually went through a crazy ass heartbreak with someone, also while I was in my mid 20s; someone to whom I WAS romantically, sexually, spiritually, connected and attracted. I mean I was IN LOVE with this woman and she broke my heart by not fully reciprocating my feelings and not wanting to be with me. I thought I was gonna die when we stopped talking. Hell, it’s been years and I still think about her.
But if you were to ask me who the true love. of. my. life. has been so far...I’d pick my best friend!
The funny thing is I think a LOT of women end up in these kinds of dynamics, ESPECIALLY queer women, maybe even more so queer women who form super close relationships to “straight” women (gotta put str8 in quotes ‘cause...this shit is inherently queer even though it’s not romantic/sexual). You all know what I’m talking about; You’d do anything for each other, there’s chemistry, connection, and care, yet it doesn’t quite fit into any box you try to give it. People read you as a couple. You know this about yourselves, and you just...accept it. Because what you have is actually beyond any label. You know?
Anyway, I think there’s actually something cool and radical about this and I know that queer people want and deserve romantic and sexual representation, but I think this IS an accurate kind of representation that happens all the time that isn’t appropriately covered or discussed in media.
In hindsight, I think that’s what really hooked me on R&I. I mean, I started watching ‘cause I thought they were lesbians, and I kept watching ‘cause I thought it would be canon! And yeah, I still think about what could’ve been with them: fanfiction is good for that. But why do I still watch the actual show? Well...I LIVED it.
Now: do I think that Maura and Jane often tip the scales a lil’ TOOOOO far in the explicitly gay direction on this show? Oh hell yes! Do I think you can interpret them as two people who are madly in love, romantically, with each other, yet are too scared to do anything about it? Oh hell yes! Like I said I do ship Rizzles. BUT, if I’m honest about what is FULLY, CANONICALLY being portrayed, no subtext, ALL maintext: It’s 10000% a QPR.
So no: Maura Isles and Jane Rizzoli are certainly not JUST friends. They aren’t just colleagues, although their work relationship is just as powerful and awe inspiring as their personal one. They aren’t really like sisters, although they can quarrel like siblings at times. They aren’t truly romantic, although they are essentially life partners. They aren’t in a sexual relationship with each other; not that it couldn’t go there, but I also see how it wouldn’t need to go there, and how that doesn’t diminish the bond at all. They have something that I recognize -and something I think perhaps many of us recognize too- something beyond definition, because at the core of it they are true-blue soulmates who share a kind of unconditional love that is rarely found in ANY kind of relationship. If there is a definition that comes close to summing this kind of thing up: Queerplatonic Relationship is the answer!
Idk just felt like sharing this. Thanks for reading 🤓
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