Tavros Crocker, Harry Anderson Egbert, Vrissy Maryam-Lalonde, Vriska Serket
Page 206-207
TAVROS: We appear to be,,, in no uncertain terms,,, completely surrounded,
TAVROS: I don't wish to come across as pessimistic,,, but,
TAVROS: It's hard to see what possibilities we have, for a plan of escape,,,
HARRY: there has to be something we can do!
HARRY: my dad is counting on us to get out of here and meet up with him.
TAVROS: Well,,,
TAVROS: I'm also not wishing to be rude, but,,,,,
VRISSY: It's Ok8y Tavvy, I don't Give A Shit a8out being rude.
VRISSY: Harry, your dad's plan fucking SUCKS.
VRISSY: There's no Easy w8y out of this.
VRISSY: It was simple enough for him to Tell us to escape, 8ut we're the ones th8t Have to 8ctually DO it!
VRISSY: And that advice he gave you?
VRISSY: It was All a load of Meaningless 8ullshit!
VRISSY: "Don't get caught."
VRISSY: Yeah, No Shit!!!!!!!!
HARRY: ok, wow. :/
HARRY: vrissy, i know this is a stressful predicament but i think that's going too far.
HARRY: my dad believes in us.
HARRY: and if he thinks there's something we can do, then there has to be a way!
HARRY: it's the only possibility.
VRISSY: Ok8y, how A8out This for an alternative explan8tion.
VRISSY: Your dad is Giddy and High on the Thrill of Something Interesting h8ppening in his life For Once!
HARRY: i don't believe this.
HARRY: i've been waiting for my dad to start talking to me again for what feels like forever.
HARRY: you KNOW that!
HARRY: and you couldn't just be happy for me this one time?
VRISSY: Oh my GOD Harry 8nderson.
VRISSY: I know you've spent So much Time crying into your d8tenight Popcorn a8out this but Please give it a 8reak!
VRISSY: Just LISTEN to me for once.
VRISSY: This isn't a8out your hangups with your Dad, okay?!
VRISSY: We're in the middle of a WAR.
VRISSY: A War th8t is, in some part, His Fault!
VRISSY: And instead of Taking Responsibility and 8cting like a Grown Up, he decided to Rope us all into this Ins8ne Game he thinks he's pl8ying!
TAVROS: Vrissy,,,, i don't think that's fair,
TAVROS: Uncle john isn't to blame for this,,,
HARRY: yeah, no shit tav.
HARRY: this whole situation is because of YOUR insane hitlermom.
TAVROS: Ok, now,,,
TAVROS: That was uncalled for,,,
VRISSY: Yeah Harry, not cool.
HARRY: oh what, so you're gonna just pretend that his mom *isn't* a literal dictator?
HARRY: he doesn't need you to stick up for him, vrissy! he's fucking loaded!
VRISSY: Harry, all of our families are O8scenely Wealthy.
VRISSY: We're standing in your mom's 8outique living room! You can't exactly pl8y a Privilege Card here!
VRISSY: And Tavros, you don't have to Defend Mister Eg8ert just 8ecause you feel weird a8out him trying to kidnap you that one time.
VRISSY: If 8nything, you should 8e on My Side here!
VRISSY: John's clearly got a Tr8ck Record of doing 8nything for a moment of excitement without thinking of the Consequences.
VRISKA: (Grr........)
VRISSY: And Look wh8t h8ppened!
VRISSY: Remember what he did on Harry's 8irthday that one time?
TAVROS: (I told you that,,, in strictest confidence,,,)
VRISSY: Tavros, he could h8ve Killed you!
VRISSY: Why Else do you think you're such a Wimpy, Traumatized 8a8y?
TAVROS: Ok, that,,, isn't the reason for that,,,
TAVROS: And,
VRISKA: (Grrrrrrrr........)
TAVROS: I feel like your implied, "concern", for my childhood wellbeing,
TAVROS: Is less sincere,,, than it is,,, an attempt to weaponize something difficult for me,
TAVROS: In order that you can win an argument,,, with harry anderson,,,,,
VRISKA: GRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
VRISKA: WILL YOU ALL JUST
VRISKA: SHUT!!!!!!!!
VRISKA: UP!!!!!!!!
TAVROS: :O
HARRY: :O
VRISSY: :O
VRISKA: I feel like I'm going fucking insane.
VRISKA: Is it weepy wiggler tantrum hour, or are the three of you always this pathetic????????
VRISKA: No8ody answer that, it was 8ulge-achingly rhetorical.
VRISKA: Just keep quiet for a moment while I insult you some more.
VRISKA: Vrissy, you're cool and all, 8ut I'm getting tired of this teen nonsense.
VRISKA: John's "advice" totally 8lows, 8ut at least he understands what needs to 8e done.
VRISKA: Don't insult my friends. Only I get to do that.
VRISKA: Tavros, stop 8eing such a wimp.
VRISKA: No8ody has time for this pansy clownery!
VRISKA: Do you remem8er what happened to the last clown I had to deal with?
TAVROS: (Gulp,,,)
VRISKA: Yeah, I thought so.
VRISKA: And Harry, listen.
VRISKA: Neither you nor your friends have anything really important going on.
VRISKA: Your lives and your planet are a total 8ore!
VRISKA: 8ut somehow John loves you anyway.
VRISKA: Try and be fucking gr8ful for that every once in a while.
VRISKA: Not everyone is so lucky.
VRISKA: Anyway, forget his advice. John wasn't counting on you to get us out of this.
VRISKA: He was counting on me!
VRISKA: So from now on, everyone just follow my lead and do what I say.
VRISKA: And if that doesn't sound like a good enough deal to you, then...
VRISKA: Just,
VRISKA: Stay out of my way.
HARRY: ...
VRISSY: ...
TAVROS: ,,,
VRISKA: Alright! I'm glad you can at least recognize when a grown-up is talking.
VRISKA: Harry. Go to your room.
HARRY: um... what?
HARRY: no??
HARRY: you're not my mom.
VRISKA: And no8ody is more gr8ful for that fact than me!
VRISKA: You need to arm yourself, stupid.
VRISKA: None of you even have a way to fight!
HARRY: oh.
VRISKA: Here. Take this.
HARRY: what is it?
VRISKA: It's your stupid face is what it is!!!!!!!!
VRISKA: Hahahaha, just kidding. It's a spare strife speci8us.
VRISKA: You wanna prove you'd make it on Alternia?
VRISKA: Take this and go gra8 a weapon.
VRISKA: Meet us 8ack here in a min8.
HARRY: a... what?
VRISKA: A MINUTE, GOD!!!!!!!!
HARRY: alright alright, i'm going.
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just thinking about how if you’re a superhero and you’re dating another superhero who’s significantly older than you because you “aged up” but other superheroes aren’t saying anything and some are even egging it on and how you’ll never question it because they’re the good guys right? they’d never want to see me hurt
I'm pulling in some panels here and just ughhhhhh. I'm putting it under a read more because creepy as fuck and conversation about csa and abuse in this series.
He was her first boyfriend.
Green Lantern Corps (1986) #206
The other gls even acknowledge this is weird as fuck!
Green Lantern Corps (1986) #207
Geninuely the most significant conversations happen in this issue on the same page: Katma convincing John that this relationship is okay and Hal convincing Arisia this relationship is okay. Both use the fact that Hal and Arisia are too good for it to be molestation (yes that is the exact word used this series is creepy as fuck y'all).
"Do not worry, John! Arisia is a good Green Lantern--she will not fail us!"
If you read this all the way through, you see Katma saying everything is fine, she grew up, she should do this because Arisia is a good Lantern, being a good lantern is being devoted to the corps. What better way to be devoted to the corps than being with another corps members, like Katma and John are? Katma and Hal were positioned pretty much as Arisia's mentors in the comics leading up to this and now both of them are enabling and encouraging this relationship. She was betrayed by those who were supposed to help her. She was 14 years old hours before this. It is her duty to be loyal to the corps, to her mentors.
And now, the most disgusting panel in this whole arc, and I'm including the Carol shit in 213/214.
Green Lantern Corps (1986) #207
The first panel I've seen out of context on tumblr several times, but the rest of it is always left out. What is really interesting to me is the rhetoric that Hal is too good for that, he couldn't be a child molester. It echos the same rhetoric used when priests or other promient people in the community are exposed for abuse or csa, and it parallels what Katma said as well. Both are heroes, good people, people who dedicated their whole lives to helping others. How could Arisia be being taken advantage of? How could Hal be being taking advantage of her? How could a hero be doing this? So many of them understand that she's a kid, but really the only people who tell Arisia not to date Hal, just wants her to date them instead (Guy, Kilowog).
The abuse is built into the system. She's living with these people, and she knows no one else on Earth. She is the only Graxosian for light years around, she's alone. She came here so that she could be with Hal. Now, he's with her. Why would she leave now?
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