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#nemona has a thing
judas-isariot · 4 months
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Listen, if they did not make Geeta evil, then gamefreak have straight up make her boring
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surven-snacks · 1 year
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Uh? She's a good listener? Possible continuation of this
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nyaagolor · 1 year
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Something that really gets me about Nemona is that despite having the social awareness of a brick wall, there are a few cases where you can see her have a complete demeanor flip if you respond negatively to her questions and I am SO interested in those. Her eyebrows furrow, she brings her hand closer to her face like she's visibly curling up, and she looks genuinely concerned-- whether ur saying you want to rain check a battle or you don't want to be her friend. It's such an extreme reaction to ultimately trivial things, but in combination with her railroading you / being her overzealous self and the way she panics about coming off too strong, it just gives me pause
I'm probably overthinking this, but those strong reactions remind of kids who were told they're Too Much by the adults in their lives and then get stuck in a push-pull of doing what comes naturally to them but also trying to be cognizant of when they're being Too Much as they struggle to grapple with social cues. Nemona only ever seeming to realize when she's crossed a line after someone tells her that explicitly or responds badly to her just gives me such confused neurodivergent teenager vibes, it is driving me insane. She acknowledges her emotional distance from other students and worries out loud to the player about Coming Off Too Strong in their first meeting, but doesn't seem to connect those ideas with any specific behavior she's doing, and the entire thing is just setting "autistic high school sophomore" alarms off in my brain
It really feels to me like a case of someone who has internalized the understanding that they're too overwhelming for others after having been told it countless times, but doesn't understand WHY; just stuck in this loop of getting negative reactions and desperately trying to work backwards from there to figure out what about them and their behavior is scaring people off. She immediately goes from this boundless confidence to insecurity (shown via pose or dialogue) the literal second she's faced with a "no" and it really makes me think it's because she's terrified of losing you as a friend and sees ur negative reactions as a precursor to that. In the absence of an actual understanding of how her own actions drive people away she's stuck relying on your reactions, and something like a simple "no" reads as a red flag that she may have crossed some invisible line that everyone else but her seems to see. (slaps her forehead) u can fit so much autism in here
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'Nemona isn't an interesting rival/character, her only personality is battling' is a take I can understand pre area zero, but I don't get how anyone can reach the credits and still think that, tbh. My opinion of her SKYROCKETED during the final arc, I think she's tied for my favourite character now.
Spoilers for the endgame, but I'm gonna rant about why Nemona is amazing and far more than people give her credit for:
Nemona has a happy life. Her parents love her, she's from a successful and wealthy family, she's top of her classes and student council president and is pretty well liked - all things that very much work as narrative foils to Penny and Arven.
As such though, it means she's not got deep rooted trauma or fear or conflict to work through as much as the others - but not every character needs this kinda thing. Nemona still develops and has a fleshed out personality - it's just not thrown in your face quite as much as it is with Arven.
She's very obviously some form of neurodivergent to start with - battling is clearly her hyperfixation, and she desperately wants to share that with her friends. The thought of a good fight sends her blood boiling in a good way, and one isn't enough! She needs another battle - no - twenty!
(side note: ppl acting like she's weird/yandere/monika ddlc for always wanting to battle the mc is wild. During the team star battle she's just put out, and saying she's the only one they need to battle is bc she wanted a third battle right as they entered the city and mc needed a break, but now they're up and battling again. She's also not fixated on battling them specifically - just people in general. She's hyped for the idea of mc becoming a worthy rival, that's all!)
She's a very understanding and patient rival, which is kind of ironic with how quickly she rushes into things and doesn't always think things through. She wants to make sure she's getting into a fair fight, especially if she knows her opponent is less experienced. Once she realises she got overexcited and terastillised her pokemon before the protag had an orb of their own, she immediately rushes to the school to pull some strings so they'll be on even footing again next time.
She's absolutely AWESTRUCK by the idea of fighting giant monsters. She's living the dream in area zero. The thought of other people fighting giant monsters makes them the coolest people in the world to her and she sees it as an honour.
A lot of her tactlessness comes in at this point - hearing her friends talk about painful memories and sheer terror involving big scary pokemon just has her excitedly hoping she can meet and battle whatever pokemon it was. She seems to struggle a lot to piece together tone and body language to figure out what's appropriate to say, but it's very obviously not meant maliciously and may even be her roundabout way of trying to help... It's clearly not what the others want nor need to hear, but I definitely think there's more to it than just 'OOOOH COOL SCARY THING':
Nemona is FIERCELY protective. She knows she's strong and she isn't afraid of anything that's happening here. She knows if anything were to happen, she's got the confidence to take on anything and keep her friends safe.
Arven's having a crisis from a lot of extremely painful memories he has of area zero. Penny is feeling pretty jumpy at everything and desperately trying to figure out what the hell happened down here. The protag is worried for their friends AND they're torn up about not knowing what's wrong with Koraidon/Miraidon. Nemona is being strong for all of them. She can show them she's not scared and that she's ready for everything. Hell, she promised to protect them all so. Many times. If she treats this like a fun group outing, maybe it'll become one.
Any time bickering starts in area zero, she tries her best to get them all to calm down and get along again - misunderstandings happen! She's overly optimistic for the dragon 'family reunion' and doesn't even register that it's not a positive one because she wants to see the best in everyone. Sure, that's a trait that could get her into trouble, but she has her friends to drag her head out of the clouds. (Note that she still stood protectively over Koraidon/Miraidon the entire time the other one was approaching, though. Regardless of her words she was still picking up on the danger there.)
She sees how down everyone is once they get out of the crater and her immediate reaction is to coax them all into going home the long way and making it into an adventure. Mc and Penny are generally feeling down and Arven and Koraidon/Miraidon have been through. So much. She wants to get the group laughing and smiling together again, to remind them that they have reasons to smile again, and that they are loved.
Nemona may not have a big deep tragic backstory, but she's the heart of the group. She's their light.
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actually re: that thing about me seeing Nemona's brace as a robo arm.
I have free real-estate to give everyone whatever injuries and scars I want.
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shima-draws · 1 year
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Oh my god I finally made it to Area Zero and holy SHIT. I am living for this. It’s got all the tropes I’m an absolute slut for: undiscovered, mysterious area that’s possibly biohazardous, off limits, and extremely dangerous, with many people disappearing into it to never return, or explorers going inside only to be trapped forever, full of creatures that haven’t seen the sunlight or human beings in possible centuries, that you get to explore with your Squad and band together to solve the mystery of something that hasn’t been solved in hundreds if not thousands of years as you continue to delve deeper and deeper into the unknown…
Also the battle theme fucking SLAPS
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antirepurp · 2 months
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i really like arven's story in scavio it might just be the best of the three really. boy has mommy/daddy issues and a cares deeply about his first pokemon to such degree he's willing to chase wild legends of local herbs to help him. not really a rival in the way they used to be in early gens but still full of flavor and personality, and a part of me even considers him a rival in some weird sense of the word? a compelling character arc that pulls you in and drives you to investigate the path of titans further. such a memorable character i enjoy him a lot
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roseofcards90 · 1 year
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Nothing fills me more with such rage than seeing Nemona get watered down to an obsessive yandere with no depth to her character like the goku jokes are better and right there to use man
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hamofjustice · 8 months
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it's nice that we're getting anything i guess, but, i'm gonna be what may come off as a little petty and whiny here; it'd be cool if either iteration of the gen 9 anime so far was actually about gen 9's characters instead of using them as cameos to promote original stories we have no investment in yet
it's like, i dunno, like the bait and switch with sonic appearing in wreck it ralph ads, except if wreck it ralph existing meant there would never be a sonic movie, and if you were invested in those characters and recognized they weren't generic platformer mascots, sucks for you, nobody cares
maybe they're just giving the DLC space to do its thing with them first (if they do anything at all...) but idk, i was cautiously optimistic about nemona in horizons, only for her to be a character of the day that the episode wasn't about, and pretty excited by "gen 9 prequel anime" only to find out it's going to be like, four short stories about OCs who have quick brushes with them. these are like the lacroix hint of what an anime about the game could've been like and you're left to imagine the rest yourself
i shouldn't be that surprised if the gen 8 anime reduced hero of galar hop to a character of the day with a level 5 wooloo in order to let the galaxy revolve around ash battling his brother because epic charizards, but man. what if it wasn't like that that now that ash is gone.
we haven't seen penny and team star at all because they're the hardest to talk about without bringing up the trauma of school bullying and the fear of being yourself at school when you're way too young to be dealing with all that drama responsibly. she's still learning to love and forgive herself and feel wanted.
arven's story is about, like, being a latchkey kid to a self-absorbed parent, being unsure how to feel about repairing the relationship or how seriously to take them saying they love him, and struggling to make friends due to misdirected resentment toward people he's jealous of for having apparently normal families and the stubborn self-reliance he was forced into. he's still trying to process things, find himself, and let people in.
nemona is supposed to have been a directionless lonely and depressed kid who hated being called gifted when everything was hard for her, until she met the player character and gained a peer who understood and appreciated she was a little different and she didn't have to mask her true self to have friends anymore. she's happy for now, but may still be under a little too much pressure to be perfect at the expense of her own personality, and probably won't deal well with being abandoned.
as much as they resonate with adults and are a little darker than usual pokemon fare, they're also smaller scale and realer. they are all stories that are explicitly about and meant to be relatable to kids going to school! y'know, your audience! you don't need to paint over them with 3-4 new characters and new stories every time like there was nothing there, or something shameful you need to sanitize and cover up! you can just use the game the way it is!
this got a little more heated than i intended, i just feel a little ridiculous waiting anxiously for loose scraps of a sign that this story isn't over and in the trash already and nemona's life-changing attachment to the player character isn't going to go totally ignored, as we are bombarded with what is supposed to be followup material that almost all seems eager to talk about literally anything else like they think the main story was a mistake they need to run away from
now, i'm not one to complain about original stories being told, but this was already a story that had room to grow. imagine a world where the gen 9 anime was actually about nemona, arven, penny, and the friend who brought them together. or what their lives were like before that friend came along. every episode. that would get me to watch the anime again and whatever movie came out for it. ask yourself why we don't have that, or even the traditional, like, 1-2 characters tagging along with the MCs per region thing that would leave us knowing them better than we know some irl friends
how was starting over with 100% original characters and new lore that might conflict hard with the upcoming DLC the safer bet? why is a 44 minute miniseries specifically for fans of the game making up OCs for them to get invested in and scrambling to tell their stories as quickly as possible before throwing them in the trash instead of being about the damn game?
sigh. i shouldn't get invested in a series that's about selling monster plushies just because it had one story that stuck with me
#paldean winds seems to mostly be making fun of the infodumping fat pokemon nerd character until he gets his own episode#y'know. the one that represents a lot of their viewers#while nemona is right there outside the window hyping up little kids about battles as usual because they don't hate her like her peers#honestly her overhearing the conversation and looking a little uncomfortable about it would've been a good touch#confirmation that the subtext i noticed is actually considered part of the canon and not a happy accident they'll never talk about again#something i have only gotten from pokemon masters so far#pokemon sv#pokemon#nemonaposting#pokemon scarvi#pokemon scarlet and violet#yada yada ten million other tags#'well at least there's the manga' the manga that inserted its own wacky main character that will probably also revolve around him#idk that one could still be good but it's also an AU and not the versions of the characters i'm invested in if that makes sense#i've been begging for pokemon to feel in touch with its audience forever and as soon as it is they treat it like a hot potato#i feel fucking obsessed because of how long this tease has been stretching on for no good reason#they could've just let us ACTUALLY hang out with the friend trio in vanilla postgame and shown them in the DLC a single time#and i could have had a normal social media presence for the past 3-6 months#instead of dreaming about a pokemon npc last night because of how little faith i have in her getting any justice outside of a fucking gacha#i am so sorry that this is who i am now except for the 2-3 of you who follow me specifically because i post these things#pennyposting#arvenposting
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microwave-core · 8 months
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People who say Nemona's a yandere have only experienced that type of character through yandere simulator
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ashestoshadows · 8 months
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A bit of Pokémon Violet consisted of:
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cosmic-cd · 8 months
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late night pokemon trainer sona thoughts
#cosmo rambles#i wanna work on hazel's time in paldea and like#hazel is never the main protagonist of any of my pokemon adventures like#she was the protag in pokemon B2W2. she was the second hero of unova. she has kyurem. she beat up ghetsis. thats done and dusted#the thing is now every time she ends up in a new region she gets caught up in whatevers going on there because bad timing every time#so the protagonist there is always either the canon protag OR somebody else...#in the case of paldea? what i want to do? hop. hop as the protagonist. hear me out#hes going to paldea to study because hes going to work towards becoming a pokemon prof with sonia#conveniently sonia is going to brush up on her studies and do some teaching and leon and hazel tag along to do the same#sonia is teaching while leon and hazel are doing lectures and assisting the professors there#but! hop gets to be the actual protag here. he leaves zamazenta at home so it can continue to protect the region along with gloria n zacian#but i think hop is a great character and id like to put him in that role where hes making friends and doing hero stuff!!!#hop can find his treasure!!!! i think he deserves that especially as he's still figuring himself out#meanwhile leon and hazel are very concerned about these kids and are absolutely at this point chaperoning for them#they bump into clavell who's doing the same thing and very exaggeratedly pretend they dont know him#i think this would take place in the Scarlet universe and hop would get koraidon. but i still want an excuse to give hazel a miraidon.#and then uh. yknow. everyone experiences the horrors#but also leon and hazel sharing a dorm room together while theyre at the school. smiles to myself.#hazel is also here because she wants to challenge the paldea league for her badge collection#leon wants of course to explore and challenge strong trainers and would probably take nemona under his wing#hazel looking at arven and weeping a little bit. though i also see her trying to keep an eye on penny as well out of concern#im also not letting go of my kalos related headcanons for SV even if we still ... havent seen confirmation#i strongly believe in there being a connection... game freak please.. .. ...#im so sorry again to whoever is reading through my tags. i am full of thoughts so these get very long LOL;;;;; thank u for reading though#OH RIGHT additionally sonia being there to study the terastal phenomenon as she's looking into the correlation between it and dynamaxing#when i hit on kalos sonia and hop are also going to continue the studies into the connection between all of these phenomena#which i want to really focus on when i hit on them all going to pasio because i love the story there of everything being connected#so sonia being involved a bit in the area zero stuff would be fun....
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nyaagolor · 9 months
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Random headcanon I don’t think I’ve ever posted before: In the Pokémon world, language education encompasses the native language of the region and “common language” which can be spoken anywhere without much issue. The reason the protagonists can move across the world and still understand everyone perfectly is because people are speaking common language to them out of courtesy. When characters (Hau and Nemona for example) speak in slang or a different language, that’s fragments of the region’s native language they’re incorporating
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ranger-kellyn · 1 year
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I’ve been trying to pinpoint the moments for both Juliana and Nemona when they realized they liked each other, and after finally doing a bunch of the school classes, I think Juliana’s moment was during the very first art class lmao
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petz5 · 1 year
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🔥 pokemon?? idk i can never think of what to ask for these
listen the new game is a whole ass buggy mess and they should have put another damn year into it AND they put an ed sheeran song in the credits. It is my favorite pokemon game to date regardless 😔 I understand this isn’t valid. The game mechanics and characters are SO fucking good. I hate penny tho she’s literally everyone I went to school with when I was an illustration major and every time she was on screen and ESPECIALLY when she insulted arven and nemona i felt like this
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xgoldenlatiasx · 1 year
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I will say that I am sad that league cards didn’t make a return, I was obsessed w/ those back in SWSH
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