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cavinginhisfvce · 1 year

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'William Orchard Hopper"

Pairing: Harringrove.

Tw: child abuse, mentions of infidelity.

This started out as a headcanon of Jim being Billy biological dad and quickly spiraled into this??? Sorry. <3

Not many people know that Jim Hopper spent a considerable amount of time in California in his twenties.

Jim and Billy's mom, Bria Hargrove met and had an affair that led to Billy being born.

Neil knows Billy isn't his son, and becomes abusive towards Bria and Billy until she can no longer take it.

When Billy is ten, she leaves and hides a note in Billy's room for him to find.

The note tells him that Neil isn't his real father, it tells him his real father lives in Indiana. Hawkins, specifically but that he had once lived in California. She tells him that the man is named Jim Hopper. She doesn't give him any other details. Not that it truly matters, Neil is whose on his birth certificate. Neil is who is raising Billy into the man he's destined to be.

Confused, Billy tucks the note away. He can almost forget about it, but the knowledge that Neil isn't his dad stays with him. Even when Neil married Susan, and he gained a step-sister in her daughter, Max.

It doesn't become a problem for Billy until Neil announces that their new, fragile thing of a family is moving to Hawkins, Indiana.

He doesn't know if Neil knows he'll be dropping them in the town of the very man his mother cheated on him with.

A week after the move, Billy makes the mistake of getting high after Neil's latest lesson in Respect and Responsibility that ended with Billy nursing bruised ribs and what's definitely a mild concussion.

The mistake isn't smoking weed, per say. No, Billy's mistake was forgetting just how loose lipped he gets when high. Because, now he's shown Max the letter his mom left all those years ago, he tells her that Neil isn't his biological father.

Max doesn't say anything, she just stands up and hugs her step-brother.

The blond tenses briefly, before he's sinking into the hug; his own arms winding around her small frame.

She's gotten taller, so with Billy sitting, his head is pressed into her stomach.

She doesn't comment on the warmth of his tears, she just hugs him tighter.

What does someone say to their step-brother who's father beats him on a regular basis? What do you say when that same boy knows the man who lords his parental status over him, isn't actually his dad?

Max decides you say nothing. Billy doesn't seem put off by the lack of response.

It isn't until after Halloween, after Max has plunged a syringe into Billy's neck to sedate him when a panic attack had led to a violent fit, that they're both forced to confront the very thing Billy has tried so hard to forget.

It wasn't the first time Billy lashed out like this, but it was one of the worst times. Her new friends had gotten permission from Neil and her mother to come over, but something set Billy off when she introduced him to Jane.

To his credit, Billy had fled the house when he noticed his breathing picking up. It hadn't helped much, because Max followed behind him, leading her friends to do the same.

When Jane met his gaze, her eyes were soft but unreadable, like she knew she held the last name of the man his mother confessed was actually his father.

It could've been a coincidence, but his mom had also told him the mystery man was training to become a police officer.

That was too many coincidences, if you asked Billy.

He doesn't remember much after that, not that ever does.

He knows her friends had been afraid, but for some weird fucking reason they tried to comfort him.

The curly-haired one even called Steve Harrington, declaring that the elder was good in situations like this.

Billy seriously doubted that, but he'd never pass up a chance to see Steve. Their relationship was still new. New as in they'd only been official for the past week.

Once Steve had arrived, the kids all seemed to lose interest in everything, and retreated into the living room to play video games. Max took some convincing, but eventually, they were able to pry her away from the place she'd refused to leave at Billy's side.

The couple quickly toed off to Billy's room, and Steve wasted no time in pulling Billy into his arms.

Billy felt bone-tired, the sedative given to him never knocks him out, it mostly tires him out. Makes the world fuzzy, and like it's covered in a foggy film.

But, this felt different. This felt like a tiredness that wouldn't be quelled by resting for the remainder of the day.

The younger boy hadn't told Steve about Jim, so when he asked what triggered this episode, Billy quickly spilled. He spoke until his throat felt raw, and his hands were shaking.

He spoke until the room felt as if all the air was quickly evaporating.

Steve waited until Billy's word vomit came to an end, before gently responding, "It's okay, B. If Hop is your dad, he's a good man. A little grumpy, but he's not like…" he trails off, but Billy can fill in the blanks just fine.

"H-how am I even supposed to broach this subject with him, Steve? What if...what if he doesn't want me just like her, and I'm stuck with Neil until I'm 18, or dead?"

The brunet quickly reaches out to cup Billy's cheek, his thumb grazing the smooth skin. "That won't happen. Even if it did, you've got me. You're never gonna be stuck with him forever so long as I'm alive and breathing, baby."

There's more the boy wants to say, but he just feels so tired. The sounds of the kids all yelling in the other room serve as nothing more than background noise.

It's about an hour later, and Billy's only been fighting his sleep because Steve is showing him various tiktoks and clips of random gamers he enjoys.

Soon though, he's starting to doze on Steve's shoulder, when there's a knock at his door, then a head of brown curls are peaking into his room.

Jane.

His breath hitches, but Steve's hand finds his back and begins to soothingly rub his stress away.

Metaphorically, of course. Because in reality, Billy is still freaking out.

"Jim is here to pick me up, but he wanted to meet you."

This causes him to bristle, "Me? Why?"

Jane merely shrugs, before turning away.

Billy has an inkling she does know, but he swallows it down and climbs off his bed to make the short trek to the living room.

When he lays eyes on Hopper, the man is dressed in his uniform, a small grimace on his lips as he observes the sparsely decorated room.

His eyes eventually land on Billy and he offers something that could be considered a smile.

"So you're the owner of that Camaro out front, or is that your dad's?"

Billy wants to laugh out loud at the question, but instead he shakes his head. "No, sir. She's all mine, fixed her from the ground up myself."

It was true, Billy spent months fixing her up, she'd been all but totaled when he found her body at the junkyard in California.

He immediately fell in love with the car, despite the appearance and the rest was history.

The chief let out a long whistle, along with an approving nod.

"Damn kid. You lookin' for work? I know the mechanic in town could use someone like you on weekends."

Billy only nods, unsure of what to say.

"Yeah, yeah that'd be great, actually! Thanks."

Jim nods, his eyes never leaving their place of observing the blond.

"I'll set it up, just come by my office on Monday and we'll work out all the kinks."

Soon after, Jim leaves with Jane, who promises Max that they'll hang out soon.

Much to Billy's chargin, Steve leaves with the rest of the kids, sans Max, around forty-five minutes later.

Neil and Susan return after Billy has finished cleaning up the dishes from his and Max's dinner.

His dad seems pissed by something, something Billy can't figure out.

Not that it matters. All that matters is that his bad mood means a repeat of last night.

As it plays out, Billy doesn't have to wait until Monday, because the man in question all but busts the Hargrove's front door down, catching Neil in the act of wailing on the defenseless blond.

There's a whirlwind of activity that ends with his father in cuffs, and Hopper escorting Billy to the hospital with Max glued to his side while Susan tails the Chief's car.

On the drive there, Billy doesn't expect the chief to blurt out, "Jane heard what you told Steve." Billy wants to play dumb, he wants to pretend he has no clue what Hopper is referring to; but instead he just shrugs and glances back at Max, the red-head at least looks apologetic.

"Does she always ear hustle that hard?" The large man huffs out a laugh, "you have no clue kid," he pauses, chewing at his lip before he carefully continues, "I knew the last name was familiar, just chalked up to a coincidence. But your ma...you look just like her…"

"Why didn't you say something earlier?"

"I didn't want to assume, I was gonna do some digging. You know? I didn't know Bria was pregnant when we broke things off. All she said was Neil was getting suspicious. She didn't tell me, if she had…" he trails off, pulling up to the entrance of the hospital.

"I'm gonna make this right, Billy. I promise."

Billy wants to scoff, but one glance at Max's hopeful face in the mirror has Billy nodding instead.

"Yeah, okay." His words are soft, lacking any bite.

It turns out that the police chief busting down your front door to find your "father" beating you bloody, is more than enough evidence to send said man to prison.

It also turns out that one nicely worded threat is enough to have Neil Hargrove give up parental rights that never rightly belonged to him.

A DNA test for confirmation later Billy was getting a new birth certificate in the mail with the name William Orchard Hopper.

Below it read Bria Hargrove and James Hopper.

Billy was in the middle of decorating his new room in Hopper's place when Max barged in, Steve trailing behind her with a sweet grin on his lips.

"Billy, can you take me and Jane to the arcade?" Jane, who Billy hadn't noticed initially just smiled up at him.

The boy shook his head, turning to Steve, "aren't these your charges? Why am I the chaperone?"

Max rolls his eyes, "you're our brother, so you have to! You love us!"

Jane quickly nods her head, a sparkle in her eyes, "Yeah! You love us."

Steve hums his agreement, which has Billy shaking his head again, "okay, whatever shitbirds. Let me change, at least."

They seem to accept that, and slip out the room, leaving Billy and Steve alone.

The latter smiles at him, before crossing the room to plant a light kiss to his lips.

"Alright, now hurry up, Blondie! We can't let the boys get too cocky, Jonathan dropped them off already and I just know Dustin is trying to beat Max's highscores already. They're gonna fight all day."

Once Billy is dressed, he drags Steve out his bedroom, only to run into Hopper. Literally.

Billy's head bounces against his chest and everything.

The man just grunts and steadies the smaller boy, his lips parting to speak before Billy is wrapping his arms around his midsection, "see you for dinner, Pops!" before he's grabbing Steve's hand and ushering Max and Jane out the door.

Jim doesn't miss the smile that graces his son's lips before he calls out, "be safe!"

He can almost see the way Jane and Billy roll their eyes before responding without missing a beat,

"Us? Always!" Jim doesn't mention the time he had to put out a small fire from when Billy tried to teach Jane tricks with his zippo.

Yeah, always my ass, he thinks.

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ickypuppi3 · 1 year

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Lucas On The Line // “For instance, the clothes she's been wearing lately have been... unusual. Old and oversize, and not in a good way. They remind me of Will's clothes, how he was always wearing something of Jonathan's, or even Mrs. Byers's.”

#billy hargrove #max mayfield #max wearing billy’s clothes #the same way will does with his brother #with his MOM #i wanna die actually #‘or even mrs byers’s’#nothing but pain #+ words #billy being forced into not only the big brother role but also the parental role #something about max seeing him as a parental figure #their relationship is so complicated and people who hate billy aren’t allowed to speak on it because they simply do not get it #it’s more complicated than just hating or loving one another #something about max finding comfort in billy even though he tried to distance himself emotionally for neil related reasons #i hate it here i hate it here #that sweater and that shirt were most definitely billy’s like there’s no other explanation #max keeping his brown leather jacket in her closet and not wearing it because it still smells like him and she doesn’t want that to go #max realising his cologne is starting to wear off the clothes she is wearing but not wanting to use up his cologne #to make them smell like him again so she just has to have a moment about it #:(

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bowiebond · 2 years

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Deaf Billy signing onto Blind Max’s hands and them just giggling because he’s signing dirty jokes into her palms. They start laughing harder when Max signs back, making fun of his boyfriends singing. Billy makes fun of her partners clothes because Lucas and El now exclusively wears stuff that feels nice to the touch instead of things that match and they both look a little silly.

Just Billy and Max bonding even though he can’t hear her voice anymore and she can’t see his grin, so he’ll laugh, raspy and little off because he can’t hear it himself, and she’ll be honest with her expressions, beaming at him so he can see she really does enjoy having him back.

#I hc that Billy could have gone deaf after his death because of the mindflayer ripping itself from his head #and the disconnect ruptured his eardrums and probably left it a little hard to emote properly #so his reactions are a little off or hard to read #but he really does mean well #max & billy <3 #it took him a while to learn ASL but El and Lucas dedicated a lot of their time to teaching him just for Max #so they sort of understand what they're talking about but they don't hold it against them #steve and eddie are still learning so they can't make out a lot #but they practice with each other a bunch #which just leads to them knowing a lot of swear words honestly #Max is pretty much fluent in it because she refused to be unable to talk to her undead brother #steve and eddie also learn a bunch of really cheesy phrases because they love watching Billy get giddy over it #just max and billy being disabled and still being little shits #harringroveson #elumax

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biigiiiii · 10 months

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So this:

Leads to this:

Which leads to this:

Which allows vecna to do this:

Right? Right………. So then this:

Leads to this:

Which leads to:

???????????????? 👀👀👀👀👀

Will has had powers.

#will has powers #no - he had powers. he probably displayed them when he got taken in to the upside down. and vecna wanted those powers. so he took them.#this also opens up to the possibility he could get them back somehow. with el it was through memories of her mom when she was born. love.#when she relived her younger self opening the gate for the first time through the power of love #so Will could get his back through strong feelings of love. just saying.#stranger things predictions #stranger things theories #byler #byler tumblr #so the cool kids can find this 😌#I HAVE ANOTHER THING TO SAY!!! Els powers are strong from negative emotions - hatred. anger. vengeance.#but they’re even more powerful from feelings of love - familial and platonic love (mama. hopper. max. etc)#so if Will did show his powers to vecna (accidentally) when he got taken then those would have been from his most common negative emotion #fear #El is anger. hatred. will is fear. anxiety.#so will will get his powers to their fullest strength only with Love. romantic love. feeling wanted. useful.#familial/friend love was something El needed in her life and she against all odds managed to find it #she got the love she desperately needed and deserved (not romantic like the Melvin’s seem to think)#will has all that in buckets. he has friends who love him. the best mom and brother anyone could wish for. but he feels unworthy of love.#feels like all the bad things that happened to him were deserved. so him receiving and accepting what he desperately needs and deserves #will fully unlock his powers - if he has them.#thank you for coming to my Ted talk

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hawkinsp0st · 2 years

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i believe s5 will see our characters have everything returned to them that was taken from them in (or before) s1.

hopper will have a wife and a daughter again. lucas will have the love of his life, max mayfield, come back to him when she’s freed from vecna. dustin will avenge eddie’s—and by extension all outcasts’—name. joyce will have a healthy family and a loving husband. nancy will be free of societal expectations. jonathan will be able to live his life without the obligation to constantly worry over his mom & brother. steve will find that he’s already got the family he wanted, and robin will have a beautiful girl to share her truest self with. el will have a real family, a real mother and father, which was stolen from her as a newborn.

and mike wheeler will get back will byers, the one who’s never fully come back to him since he was taken by the demogorgon—the best boy that’s ever happened to him, who was taken from him by forces of evil and repression on a fateful november night.

and will byers? he’s going to be returned to the arms of mike wheeler, his knight in shining armor, the boy he couldn’t lie to, the boy who has been destined to love him unconditionally, for the rest of his life, since the moment they met.

#byler #i’m gonna go ahead and tag this #stranger things #because like #idc if i get hate for this #this is the narrative of the show LMAO #so i’ll let the wider fandom see it #narrative tag #duffers #oh and i didn’t include erica btw bc she is living her best life :)#other than her brother being heartbroken over max #so her main conflict is grouped in w lucas i’d say #love her btw

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fastcardotmp3 · 10 months

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I wonder, what do you think max wrote to Steve? how would Steve react had he read it?

oh man oh boy I don't know what spurred this ask but I WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT IT THANK YOU FOR ASKING

The thing about Max's letters, is I don't think any of them are particularly lengthy, but I think even in their conciseness they pack a punch right where they need to for their recipients.

I mean she wrote how many in one night? These are really focused messages, I think, just the most important thing she wants to tell these people in the event she misses out on the chance in the handful of hours she has left.

And for Steve? God.

Max, at this most vulnerable moment, gets to be honest about where she's come from, I think. She gets to express in words, maybe for the first time, what it had been like to be promised a big brother and be handed a tormenter.

She gets to say, I learned how to push back enough to not feel helpless, but not so much that I actually became helpless, and she gets to make it clear that she was the first one who ever took on the role of protecting not just herself but her loved ones from Billy.

Max was so young when she had to start wearing armor in her own home, but she never talks about it, would never burden Lucas or El or the rest with this duty she's accepted by figuring out how to hide her vulnerability when she's home, hide her friends when they're in public.

Max gets to say that, in this moment when she thinks everything is going to end, and to Steve? She gets to tell him you were the first person to stand between me and him.

You were the first to hide me, protect me.

She gets to thank him for it, apologize maybe too for making him need to in the first place (no matter how unnecessary apology is in this case), and she gets to remind him, you did it right until the end.

Because he did, or he tried to, and that matters. She was promised an older brother and she never got one, but she got a Steve and that matters.

Make sure to take a proper joy ride in that stupid car when I'm gone, she signs off, because she's still Max even 'til the end.

When Steve reads it, I think it would play a lot like how I wrote it between Max and Eddie in the very first fic I wrote for ST, because I will simply NOT entertain a world where Max dies I cannot DO it I'm not strong enough!

But that's to say I think that one day, when she's healing and recovering and the horror is over even if it will always stick with them, Max gets to choose to let Steve read that letter.

She wants him to know, she realizes, even if she's still here. Especially since she's still here.

She wants him to know that he matters, that he's as important to her as he is, that she loves him for both what he did for her and who he is.

They never gave her an older brother, but she made one, chose one, found one all on her own.

Steve doesn't have the words for it, really, holds her tight to hide the tears in his eyes and says me too, Mayfield, to try and encompass all of it.

Max gets it. She hugs him right back.

She says I know.

And that's maybe the greatest revelation of all.

#ask #dot post #that's her BROTHER dude!!!#max mayfield #steve harrington #thank you anon I love to talk about them <3

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theoriginalsapphic · 2 years

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I like to believe that Will had already brainstormed ideas with El about how to become rich and scamming people was one of them. Will just decided to extend the invitation to Mike.

#byler #mike wheeler #el hopper #willel #i can't believe that will got heat on twitter for this #el was having the time of her life spying on people with max #she would love to scam people in las vegas with her brother #let my girl use her powers for fun every once in a while please #will byers

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rotisseries · 1 year

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"I can see will appreciating all types of music genres" well I cannot. peace and love<3

#like sorry I just think he mostly listens to rock some people literally just listen to one genre and that's FINE oh my lord #he would not be pretentious about it I'm not saying that I am sure that when el turns the madonna on he does not bitch or make fun of her #that doesn't mean he's listening to it on his own though lmao. that doesn't mean it's his preferred music choice #you know who I DO think would like a lot of different music genres? el. and I have actual reasons for this #I'm not just saying shit for the sake of saying shit #like she probably wasn't exposed to music for the first 13 years of her life! I bet she loves all sorts of stuff bc it's all so unique!#I bet her favorite songs and artists are based more in sentimental value then anything else #like she likes madonna bc she listens to that with max. she likes bowie bc it's what her brothers introduced to her #she likes riot grrrrl/punk bc of kali y'know?#anyway. in summary. will literally does not have to listen to pop or whatever why would he #like do what you want with mike he canonically sang along to corey hart. but will?#anyway that's how I know y'all are just projecting bc y'all want your fave to have the same music taste as you #and like it's a harmless headcanon it doesn't matter I know. but it is a pet peeve yeah I don't see why will can't just like rock #AGAIN. NOT PRETENTIOUS. HE THINKS OTHER GENRES ARE FINE THEY'RE JUST NOT HIS THING #stranger things #will byers #byler

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wayward-sherlock · 10 months

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thinking abt how someone’s gonna die next season but all of the characters have such complex relationships with each other that no matter what it’s going to hurt real fucking bad.

#steve dies : dustin and robin and nancy fucking lose it #max dies : lucas is a shell of himself. el has no strong female friends in her life anymore. steve loses a sister. erica loses her brother.#dustin dies : og party is gone. steve loses his little brother. robin gets left with whatever steve still has after grieving #will dies : not even going there. he’s not dying.#el dies : she’s not dying. she’s not #mike dies : where do i even start. where do i even start. nancy thinks she’s not good enough to keep anyone important to her alive. -#- jonathan loses pieces of nancy and will. will loses…he loses a huge fucking part of himself. el loses her first love and a friend. lucas..#nancy. jonathan. lucas. robin. erica. even argyle.#any of them die and everyone else is gonna go insane with grief.#plus the grief of losing something that defined their early years? that shit’s hard #feeling like they lost their entire childhood to this realm of monsters but missing it when it’s gone because they don’t know how to live -#- normal lives anymore. how do they move on? how do they continue in a world that’s indifferent and ignorant to their sacrifice?#sigh.#stranger things #st5 #wayli goes insane #wayli’s feeling sad today. sorry guys.#🫧🪴#🚲

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filibusterphil · 2 years

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Okay not to defend the hot irredeemable murderer but it is real funny Juliette is out here thinking that Elinor killed Theo to ruin her relationship. I’m sorry babe not everything is about your doomed Shakespearean love. Sometimes your sister wants to hook up with a hot hunter too and then his brother shows up and she thinks she’s been set up so she pisses off both of them and they try and kill her and so she moves out of the way and lets one brother kill the other then wipes his memory so she won’t get blamed or be roped into the mess that will inevitably come from getting a hunter killed.

#first kill #elinor fairmont #look I know she is irredeemably evil or whatever #and a full trophy taking serial killer #but I just think that maybe hot fictional people can have that as a treat #as much as I loved the lesbians #Elinor and Talia were real standouts for me #anyway #this situation really truly got out of hand but I don’t think it’s Elinor’s fault #a lack of intent all around #Theo was struggling with his visions and needed answers and pushed too hard #Apollo was struggling with constantly being told he was not measuring up #so being called stupid by the girl he had just almost successfully seduced and schmoozed for info #pushed him over the edge #and ya girl is a psychopath so as soon as something isn’t going her way #she kinda seems to go for max pain and casualties #and well she’s very good at what she does #but she didn’t walk into that bar thinking wow I hope my sister’s girlfriend’s brothers show up so I can kill one #and break up my sister’s relationship #not even she is that ridiculously manipulative

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sallytwo · 5 months

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A BALL ON FIRE AT THE CENTER OF THINGS / A BRAIN ON FIRE AT THE CENTER OF THINGS.

#myart #homely ghost #OKKK LAST TALII DRAWING OF THE NIHT I PROMMY #this takes place season 3 after chyell left :(#high to death is such. a talii songgg #i closed my eyes and i thought i was blind / its the middle of the night and i will never be alright again #KEEP SMOKING I LOVE YOU BUT I DONT WANNA DIE!!!!#just about her. realzing how unhealthy her and chyell are for each other. and then they leave without saying anythin #just like her brother left just like how max left. and she just has her shitty job. on this shitty station. she could never leave #and shes got nothing left everyone else left HER. everything she had has been taken from her by this station and this job #but now the jobs the only thing she has left. :(#I CANT TURN THIS THING OFF IT KEEPS FOLLOWIN ME / WHEND YOU SAY YOU WERE LEAVING. WHEND YOU REALLY LEAVE????

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ima-ghost-art · 1 year

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What if Steve and Eddie got trapped in the upside down during the final battle of 87?

El cant find them and can no longer open a gate for everyone to try find them, so everyone has to believe they're dead. The party feels lost without them.

Of course, Dustin Robin Max Lucas and Erica are all devastated, all refusing to believe that the two were dead, sure that there must be a way to get them back. But, weeks turn to months and months turn to years and there is still no sign of Steve and Eddie being found.

After a while the group is forced to just start moving on with their lives, each moving away but all staying in contact.

Slowly they start forming their own familys, Lucas and Max (now living in California near Jonathan and Argyle) welcome thier first daughter 'Stephanie Erica Sinclair' April 29th 1992, she was a happy accident and was named after her parents favourite siblings.

The same year, Argyle and Eden have a little girl named Evie, the two splitting custody after Eden moved out of Utah to California near Argyle.

Next was Nancy and Jonathan two years later, the pair having a set of twins 'James Edmund and Katie Barbara' August 10th 1994. Jon takes full custody when they turn 3, living with Argyle back in Cali, letting Nancy follow her dream of becoming a journalist in Chicago, while he worked his dream job at a photography studio stationed on the coast. The two both knew they weren't going to last, however they dont stop loving eachother. (Nancy still helps out with the twins when shes in the area as well as weekly phone calls, making sure they know she loves them even if shes not often around)

In 96, 'Issac Lucas Sinclair' who was the same age as a little girl called 'Morgan' later adopted by El who Dr Owen's believes nay have powers similar to hers and Henry's.

Robin and Vickie, who now live in Michigan, adopt a son in 2000 a trans boy named Tyler, a year older than Stephanie.

At this point it's 2007, having been 20 years since the final battle, 20 years since the party lost Steve and Eddie, 20 whole years. The only people who still lived in Hawkins was Dustin and Suzie Henderson, the two of them both choosing not to have kids, living together in one of the newer houses built along the edge of Hawkins where they had easy access to their jobs working in a lab just outside of Indianapolis. The two secretly working on a way to potentially find their missing friends.

Dustin becomes the fun uncle to his friends kids, Hosting a new version of Hellfire for them with Will being his co DM!

Wayne Munson also continued to live in Hawkins after he helped during the final battle, after losing his nephew he moved in with Claudia living with her.

The wheelers and Sinclair's still both live there too, Holly Wheeler after graduating, now being a teacher at Hawkins high.

The Hopper-Byers move out towards Illinois, Mike and Will both living together in an apartment together in Indianapolis, and El lives with Max and Lucas with their children together in California.

(lest not also forget Garath and Jeff, who also helped in the final battle, the two along with the other members of Corroded Coffin started making it big during the early 90s, and successfully did 2 world tours, they always dedicate each performance to Eddie, as he was the man who started the band and would have loved to see where they ended up now!!)

The party end up coming back to Hawkins in July, to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the end of the Upside Down.

...That is until Stephanie Sinclair goes missing while cycling back to the Hendersons after an evening at the arcade with the other party members kids. Everyone else was staying at the wheelers or the old Byers home, but hers were staying with her Uncle Dustin like they always did. Issac and Morgan hadnt joined them so she was biking on her own.

They found her abandoned bike along the edge of Mirkwood the next day... Stephanie Sinclair had completely disappeared

It didnt take long for missing animal reports to start cropping up either, same with another missing person, one of Holly's students...

When Stephanie is finally saved a week later she wasnt found alone. Her and the missing student, were accompanied by two familiar young adults.

Steve and Eddie, both looking like they had barely aged at all since getting trapped in the upside down.

#this au has been stuck in my head for AGES now!!#like the idea that time works differently in the upside down #what if someone was to be trapped in there longer than a week?#steve and eddie getting trapped for 20 years #but they only aged/ lived 2 #when the kids get taken their aswell steve and eddie protect them before the party is able to come and save them #when they find Stephanie she recognises them from the pictures Max and Dustin would show her of their big brothers #ones she was told went missing after the earthquakes #however shes confused how they look almost the same from the pictures instead of being in their 40s like the should be #eddie and steve having the realization that they've been gone 20 years #que them being saved and having a really emotional reunion #while also being stuck with the jarring effects of the kids you babysat growing up without you #/your old babysitters/ party mom and dad friends are now stuck decades behind you #honestly this is an idea i dont have the time to dive into #however if any one wanted to write something like this i would love to know bc its such an interesting idea to me??#steve harrington #eddie munson #stranger things #steddie #robin buckley #platonic stobin #max mayfield #dustin henderson #second generation #stranger things next generation

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stop-breaking-my-heart-dragonage · 21 days

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So you know this party banter between Aveline and Carver?

Aveline: I don't like some of the people you've been associating with, Carver. Carver: Talk to my brother/sister. He/She's the one in charge.

If you're on the rivalry path with Aveline, she says:

Aveline: Who says I don't mean him/her too? This city's full of people who are dead set on ending badly. I don't want to see you end up the same way.

I just- Aveline, you- you're so- hhhhnnnngggggg

I always rival Aveline when I play a mage, and if you think Edgar Aristide Hawke, who practically raised Carver and Bethany after Malcolm died and Leandra became a distant mother in her grief, wouldn't stop dead in his tracks at Aveline heavily implying he's a bad influence on his brother and Carver shouldn't hang around him so much since apparently Ed's someone set on ending badly...? Absolutely not.

This is another case of me wishing Hawke had the option to jump in during party banter with different options, because Ed would've chewed Aveline out for that.

Oh, and then there's:

Carver: Would asking you to stop spying on me help in the least? Aveline: No.

Aveline...................stop it.

#da2 #dragon age 2 #carver hawke #aveline vallen #da2 hawke #edgar hawke #listen all of aveline and carver's party banter and their relationship and the fact that they're pretty much foils DRIVES ME CRAZY #in a good way but then i get party banter like this and i stop everything i'm doing just to scream #like ed and aveline are on fairly good terms in act 1 i mean the rivalry is there but it's not too bad it's more like they just butt heads #but after leandra's death the friendship just rots and deteriorates like by the end of act 3 ed is genuinely surprised aveline #didn't turn on him and side with the templars but i guess even aveline knows what's actually right #or maybe she just doesn't want to face ed in a fight sksksks hell ed AND carver in a fight so it's easier to side with him and the mages #but anyway aveline saying that when ed's in earshot is bold but also the fact that carver doesn't actually acknowledge it #like he doesn't agree or disagree he just changes the subject to be like 'can you stop spying on me PLEASE'#like he already has no privacy while living with gamlen and now he has no privacy when he's by himself because apparently aveline's spying #also i always max out carver's friendship so he and ed are on good terms they're the brothers hawke and carver loves him #even if he doesn't outright say it you know that's what he's really saying in the last straw #when he says that he's proud to call hawke brother/sister and that's gone unsaid for too long like............ screaming sobbing throwing u #like the carver and hawke dynamic on his friendship path is sooo good that i hear aveline say that and i'm immediately ready to throw hands #btw if you're on aveline's friendship path she says 'maybe but i know you get around' instead which...........gets around where aveline???#aveline my list of beef with you grows with every playthrough i hate you but also i love you but also i want to throw you in the ocean #until you get your head out of your ass like this is a case of her being a FASCINATING character but as a person? while i'm playing ed? ugh #my lady warrior hawke adored aveline but ed is ready to fight her 24/7 sksksk

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spotaus · 1 month

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*It seems you managed to stumble across a unique trio...

Decided to do a silly lil doodle of my favorite Dopple-trio! :D on the surface I feel like this'd be a daily occurrence. Kale is the most normal of the 3 of them, but I wanted to draw her and Paps having a cute lil conversation. (More ideas below the cut!!!)

Pretender regularly interacts with humans (his disguise slowly recovers, and he continues to mostly abstain from his old habits) and usually appears as "human" as long as he's out. Sometimes in public I feel like ppl would be willing to talk to him, and he's always quick to make it clear that to get to his family people would have to get past him. (Also I think in their neighborhood/town everyone gets increasingly confused because he regularly goes, "Yeah, that's my Kid" some days abd other days he's like, "That's my little sibling" and it's just that he's her guardian and the terms are kinda interchangeable because it's easier to use them than explain the whole situation lol)

Pretender also has no sense of fashion. He's always so close to a neat outfit then takes the wrong turn before he exits his closet lol.

Paps stays in skeleton form (at least for the first few years) even tho it's dangerous, because his human disguise is awful and makes K uncomfortable. Instead he trains genuinely with Undyne and Tender to properly figure out a human shape over about 4 years. Eventually he does have a human disguise, but he's contented in his monster form too.

K I can't say a lot for (beloved @oodlesndoodles is who designed/owns her!) But I'm pretty certain that she'd probably still wear her one monster-style outfit sometimes if only to show her solidarity with her family, or just to mess with people on the streets 🙏

Also:

I love the idea that someone talking to them would take in this info and be like ???????

Last Notes: Human!Pretender is one of my favorite blorbos ever to doodle! His hair texture is probably the most satisfying thing ever! Paps keeps miraculously looking good for this AU??? I've never been able to draw Papyrus before??? Idk what changed, but I love him! And KALE! K my beloved I have struggled so hard to doodle her well and usually fail but I think I did it!!! I love her sm...

#utmv #oc #utmv sans #utmv art #utmv oc #my art #utmv au #doppletale #dopple!paps #dopple!kindness #dopple!sans #pretender sans #kale estrella #kale #I honestly to the gods believe that none of these 3 can manage a normal conversation for over 4 minutes max #Chikity Tender can hold a conversation well but unsettles people w/ his eye-contact and grin #Paps is just notoriously over-excitable and refers to everyone he meets as Human [Insert Name] unless it's Kale (she's K/Kale to him)#and K I think could be normal for a while but tends to retreat if things get even a bit out of her comfort-zone and because she's so “kind”#she doesn't know how to end a conversation and had to suffer thru it or signal the brothers to save her from Interaction lol #hi guys can u tell I love them???#also I was listening to 5 hours worth of Unsolved Mysteries and trueHorror Stories while drawing this cute lil thing #it had the uhhh opposite affect. i meant to draw Toriel lore when ahe lures kids to Home... I got distracted #spot q

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