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Crazy theory anon here, coming back to scream at you about Manner of Death like I threatened promised👋🏻

Okay, I actually really enjoyed it even though I’ll admit it took me a few episodes before I got into it but once I did, maaaaaan it got good. So I’ll share some thoughts below.

1. Why do so many people in this place live in these mansions all by themselves? I think Bun and Nam were the only two that lived in normal people dwellings but the rest of the town seemed to be making a career out of haunting their houses.

2. After you said there were some twists and turns that you didn’t see coming, I was excited to be surprised. Majority of media I watch/read that are mysteries or “who done it” type stories, I figure them out very early on. It’s one of the downsides to having good pattern recognition but unfortunately the same thing happened here. It’s ok though because I’m still able to enjoy it and instead find the beauty in the intricacies of good storytelling.

3. *sigh* Let’s talk about Rung. The moment Rung showed up to Janes house the morning after her death I knew she was involved and honestly suspected she had done it. I know that sounds crazy but I thought it was odd. Tan was there that morning to pick Jane up for work and Rung would have known that her sister was teaching and wouldn’t have been home at that time. So why did she show up when her sister wasn’t supposed to have been home? Then her whole reaction felt… performative. Maybe so nobody would question her and maybe even a way to get any info she could about where the investigation would go but she really played the perfect grieving sister. The more that was revealed as the story progressed just kept reinforcing my suspicions. She showed up at the most opportune times to help Bun and Tan but each time I could see how it would actually benefit her and whoever else was involved if you looked at it from a different perspective. Human trafficking? Rung owns a “spa”? The “rescued” girls are staying there? Interesting. When Sorawit got shot outside the secret house in the woods, he fell in front of a car that looked just like hers. The hell would she be doing out there? Definitely involved. At the end of the day she wanted power and money and had no qualms about torturing her sister to get it all because she was jealous and vindictive over Pued. Did you see the light in her eyes when she saw that the Judge was lusting after her baby sister? The opportunity she saw there? Disgusting. Maybe she was used in the past as well like she hinted, and I would have some sympathy for the person she was then but I’m not sure I believe her. If it is true that actually makes it doubly worse bc how could you then turn around and willingly do that to those children while profiting? That woman was a heartless monster, I never had any sympathy for her crocodile tears and I’m glad she ended up the way she did. A murder staged to look like a suicide. Beautiful. Poetic. Deserved. 👏🏻

4. I really wanted to be shocked about the Judge! That looked like such a breathtaking reveal if you didn’t see it coming. He also seemed rather obvious from the start. Too helpful and too calm about everything. Then they showed that flashback to Jane threatening to expose them at the party before she died. I knew I was right the moment I saw the judge sitting at that table with the rest of them. When I saw that I was like damn, yeah, he’s definitely involved. Only later to find out he was the most violent and depraved of all the men there.

5. On a positive note I will say that I’m happy Inspector M turned out to be a good guy and a great cop. He seemed like he’d be a character with strong morals in the beginning but, I did start to wonder if he’d been bought off when he started his shit about the autopsy report, trying to go against Buns findings in order for Janes death to be ruled a suicide, and the tug of war with the laptop. They almost had me questioning him but I never lost hope that he’d make the right decision and I’m so glad that it didn’t go another way. He ended up being such a key part of what made the plan work and I don’t think it would’ve gone their way had he not helped Bun and Tan. I’d also really love to live in TV world where people get beat to shit and shot multiple times only to be kicking ass a day or two later with nothing more than a minor limp. Man has healing powers to rival Kinns lol! Also the actor was super attractive. Just saying.

6. Nam! Omg this girl wasn’t phased by anything! After all the horrors she was put through, after all the failed escape attempts and failed rescues, she never backed down and was able to stay strong. The experience will definitely leave some permanent scars but she seems like the type of person that could deal with it head on and push through. She also had the balls to I.D. the Judge right in front of his face. Like yes you go girl! I just respected her so much for her strength.

7. That and Sorawit were adorable. I didn’t expect That to be a character I’d like as much as I did. When he beat up Sorawit in the beginning and then was threatening Bun I was wary of where they’d take it with him but he ended up being a brave kid with a good heart just like Sorawit. I’m also a little bummed that their relationship didn’t progress much on the show. They obviously had feelings for each other but that was never really fleshed out so I’m not sure why they hinted at it so much in the first place. Either way I enjoyed their schemes and interactions.

8. I’m not going to say much about Pued bc I’m still not sure how I feel about him. I’m disgusted that he was willing to do what he did to Jane (and possibly at one time to Rung seeing as his Playboy status was mostly him “recruiting” girls for the business) and I do feel like he loved Jane at least in some way but to sell your girlfriend out like that? For a better position? At least in the end he regretted his part in all of it and especially what it had done to Jane. So I don’t like him but I do respect that he was going to do the right thing in the end. I’ll give him that much. I also very much liked his relationship with Tan. They had such a messed up family dynamic so it was nice to see that Pued loved him as a brother, a whole brother, and was willing to stand up to Por when he was being unfair and cruel. That’s the beauty of flawed characters I guess. I also wish they had revealed more about the brothers and their past with their father.

9. I didn’t expect to like Por. I really didn’t but I liked him in the way I like any morally ambiguous character. He wasn’t law abiding nor “good” by any means but he had his own fucked up moral compass that sometimes just made sense and he really would do anything to protect the ones he loves. Even Tan once he got past the grudge he held against him for so long. That man had a life mission to avenge his brother and I was rooting him on the whole time. Honestly I just think he’s neat 🤷🏻‍♀️

10. Also a big shoutout to Pat. I need to apologize for calling him a heartless asshole in the beginning because they wouldn’t have had any info without that man and he didn’t deserve to meet such a horrible end. He gave his life to tell the truth and almost didn’t get the chance.

11. Okay okay okay. Onto Bun and Tan finally. I’ll admit that I wasn’t into their dynamic in the beginning but I think that mostly had to do with me not understanding what exactly Tans relationship was with Jane. I was hoping they wouldn’t hook him up with Bun immediately after his supposed gf was murdered but then when it was revealed that they were just friends, it made more sense. As for their chemistry? Listen, you know as well as I do that it’s hard having KP and MA as your intro to BL couples because their chemistry is just off the damn charts. Everyone else has paled in comparison so far. Now, Bun and Tan did have good chemistry and it was very apparent during a couple of their more intimate scenes but I do feel that their relationship progress was somewhat hindered due to the enormous plot of the story. The mystery was great and executed well but I feel the main characters relationship suffered because of it. It would’ve been nice if they’d spent a little more time developing them. For example: why make it a big deal that they met 8 years ago at school only for them to pretty much do nothing with that later on? It’s not even just about them as a couple. I kind of walked away feeling like I learned so much more about the side characters than I did about the two leads. I’m also not a fan of how a lot of BL’s like to make one character very affectionate but the other half is always reluctant/defensive with it and they did some of that with these two. I did enjoy at the very end to see Bun finally being cheesy and romantic with Tan in their final scene together. And the marriage proposal? I mean I would’ve still said yes but Tan would’ve received a crisp slap for that set-up. Not funny Tan. Not funny. The box was cute tho.

12. Can we talk about Jane? Just poor Jane. Everyone she trusted just used her up and then gaslit her when she begged for help. That’s why imo out of all of the people who were a part of this disgusting organization, Rung was the worst. Watching Jane in those last couple episodes almost broke me and I couldn’t imagine my older sister doing those things to me and not having the slightest ounce of compassion watching me breakdown because of it. Jane was unfortunately naive and her sister knew she could use that to her advantage and for too long it worked. Then that moment when Jane sees Natty at the Orgy and realizes how bad it truly is? The realization that this is happening to children and one she actually knows? Yeah I fully understand why she risked it all. It’s so heartbreaking that a good, trusting person was used and abused like that but her perseverance and determination to tell the truth, no matter the risk to her, is what made me love her and I’m so happy that Bun fought tooth and nail to make sure her voice was heard and that she didn’t die for nothing.

13. Inspector Tong was so pathetic he barely deserves mentioning and I’ll forever be livid that the Congressman escaped. Although I do find it a bit funny that he had to escape the same way they transported those poor girls. I hope it was a nightmare.

14. Also another big shoutout to the computer geek superhero who’s name I never learned. They would’ve been nowhere without him and he was also a much needed comedic relief on more than one occasion. That cute lil hug with Tan and Bun at the end made me giggle.

15. That town had one braincell and unfortunately Bun and Tan were the two who used it the least. I was yelling at them when they saw Junes email and password in that book. CLUES YOU IDIOTS THERE COULD BE CLUES! Glad Bun remembered at the very last second.

I want to add that I appreciate the content warning you gave. I’m someone who’s a big believer that we are responsible for our own triggers out in the world and I think it’s actually important to face those things when we encounter them. That being said, the subject matter was dark and some things affected me in a way that I didn’t expect and without going in prepared, I think I would have had a different experience. So again, thanks for the heads up. I really enjoyed this though and I’m kinda sad it’s over tbh so I’m excited to start “Not Me” in the next few days and see where it leaves me. Again, thanks for the recs Jaime! Sorry this got so long.

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Ok I'll put my response under a jump so this isn't too long...

So I agree, it took me a couple eps to get into it too but thankfully I was in the mood to endure and I was intrigued enough by the premise.

1. True! There were some wild homes actually. In fact, a lot of the scenery in general was pretty gorgeous. But Tan's home was crazzzzzy.

2. I remember being a little sus on the sister initially but I fully did not see the story of her literally selling her sister coming. When you lay out your own suspicions though it totally makes sense you figured it out. Tbh, I just didn't pay that close of attention. Rung really was the most despicable human and I think the depths of her depravity and how viscious she was to her sister was what shocked me the most. Especially when her sister loved her so much. That was heartbreaking. I completely agree that I loved how she met her end. Very deserved.

4. I also had figured the judge was involved. He just seemed like a well placed character for it an a 'surprising' choice. I found the details tended to throw me the most. As you say, he was absolutely depraved. I was so not used to BLs diving into such dark themes and the way this story committed... damn. Like, the story required it, but holy shit. It was a dark story.

5. One thing I loved was how Bun was constantly calling out the police force on being corrupt and inept. So I was pretty damn critical of Inspector M initially, but I liked how that developed too and that he actually was a good guy. I lol’ed at your comment about healing powers. The power of the BL world truly lolol.

6. Nam was such a badass. I was so disturbed by that moment Jane sees her in the... I don’t even know what to call it? But you’ll know the moment I’m referring too. Like, I could just feel Jane’s total horror in that moment. I’m so glad things turned out the way they did for Nam.

7. The That and Sorawit story was quite adorable and unexpected. I think it was supposed to be a cute little ‘Tan and Bun if they had met in the past’ sort of thing. Nothing too serious and a way to help humanize and soften That.

8. I agree that Pued was a hugely flawed character. I actually liked how dark the truth was - with him basically handing her over. It was terrible but I liked that he had serious reasons to feel an incredible amount of guilt. I didn’t like him either but I did appreciate a lot of his scenes, especially that love but conflict situation he had with Tan. And it did break my heart when Tan started crying when Pued collapsed. Because as much as the brothers fought, Pued was one of the only family members that truly loved Tan.

9. “Honestly I just think he’s neat” 😂 😂 😂

10. I felt so bad when Pat died even though it was pretty obviously coming. I liked the reveal of Jane slipping him the USB drive. It really was nice to realize there was more going on there than him just being a dick reporter.

11. Omg the thing about not understanding Tan’s relationship to Jane. SAME! Like, obviously that was intentional on the shows part but I saw this post that basically said, ‘To think how easily Tan could have cleared so much up by just simply saying ‘I wasn’t dating her’ but he refused to do so’ and it’s so true 😂. What a chaos gremlin. So I admit I felt very conflicted and weird about Tan and Bun initially too. I kept waiting for the reveal about Tan and Jane not being together but it was unclear for a while. I do agree that the relationship progress was hindered by the plot. This show felt much more plot-driven with a sprinkling of ‘romance’. And there were moments I was confused by them not taking more advantage of the situation. Like Bun and Tan sharing a bed for so long? And we basically just... never saw it? All I could think was that the show was trying to very actively avoid common tropes (i.e. sharing a bed trope). I get what you mean about not being a fan of that whole thing with Bun being so much more timid and resistant (on the surface). It’s not my fave thing either. And I’m actually not sure what that whole ‘they met 8 years ago’ thing was about. I was thinking maybe it had more impact in the book? And that was just lost in the show. I enjoyed them but I do think the show was massively helped in that department by the actors’ chemistry. I did love the domesticity aspect of their relationship and how they so easily and comfortably sunk into life lived together. It made them getting married at the end not seem out of the blue. Tho... SAME. I would have punched Tan for that proposal stunt... my god. For Bun to still find that moment romantic... truly they must be made for one another lol.

12. God, poor Jane!!! Ah yes you mention the moment when she sees her student here. She really was just used and abused by everyone she trusted the most. That’s why I was so glad that it was made clear throughout the show that Bun truly cared for her and wanted justice for her (and Tan too - though that was unclear for much longer as his motives were so mysterious in the beginning). Her story was just so gut-wrenching. But I am glad the show didn’t pull punches. You know how in some shows it’ll be the surprise reveal of ‘oh look, they’re not dead!’ so that the story isn’t so dark? I always feel like it completely takes away from the impact of the original story they were telling. And this story was too damn dark to pull punches in any way. So as horrific as the details were, I was glad they didn’t flinch from them.

13. Ohhhh I forgot the Congressman escaped! It made sense to me in the storytelling because... well, that’s reality. It’s exactly what I would expect to happen. But god that made me mad too.

14. Bless the computer geek!

15. OMG the password moment 😂😂😂. Yes, same! Thank god they didn’t draw that out.

I’m glad I did warn in that case and you were at least a little more prepared. It’s definitely a way different take on a show from what is normally seen in the world of BLs. That’s I think why I appreciated it the most. I’m so used to the more teeny-bopper takes on these stories, that I truly welcome more adult approaches (hello Kinnporsche). It was so interesting to read your review! I loved hearing all of your thoughts.

I will be so curious to hear what you think of Not Me. I just had a friend watch it over the past couple of days too so I’ve been reliving it. I think you’ll enjoy. Something to know about it is that it was shot on an extremely small budget and in some cases they were literally shooting scenes the week before they aired, with the director editing up until the night before the ep aired. So that’s not to warn you the quality will be bad, because it’s not, but just to give you context on how incredible what they achieved was. They used real footage from protests as well as actual protestors and protest leaders in scenes. And some of the events that take place are based on real events. So it’s a fascinating story. Also the director is a transwoman and I think that pov really adds an important dimension to some of the issues tackled. It has some definite flaws (you’ll likely notice this more in the last couple of eps as the story wraps up) but overall it’s a far different level of quality from other BLs. And it’s absolutely the best acting I’ve seen in BLs outside of Kinnporsche. I think you’ll be entertained!

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