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zekesplayground · 3 months
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c h o k e
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jichanxo · 5 months
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i think the thing that really gets to me about kuwagami is that even if they never see each other again they'll probably think about each other for the rest of their lives
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passthroughtime · 2 months
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brb going insane over his little gay head tilt
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the old kitakata can't come to the phone right now. why? oh, 'cause he's dead
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bother-blame · 1 year
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Yeah. I'm... I'm not the same person I was back then. Going through that kinda shit... really changes a man, ya know? You do know, don't you? See, I've done my homework on you. Back when you were still a lawyer, you won a murder acquittal, right? But where did that lead? To the death of an innocent young woman.
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trixibebe · 1 year
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Guys being dudes
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woundedheartwithin · 1 year
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Thinking about how Yagami kept bringing up Sawa-sensei and how annoyed Kuwana started to get about it. Like yeah, Yagami got kinda dogmatic about it, but like… he was traumatized. He even told Kuwana, “you didn’t see her body after it happened. You didn’t see the terror still frozen on her face.” Yagami did. And it traumatized him
Like yeah, okay, Kaito and Sugiura saw her too, but they had time to brace for something terrible, because they saw Yagami’s reaction first. Also notice how Sugiura stood back and didn’t come into the room. Kaito never got very close either. Yagami was right there, on his knees, looking into her face, rummaging around her body for clues. That’s not to say they weren’t traumatized by it too, I’m sure they were, but Yagami bore the brunt of it
And it has nothing to do with any kind of romantic connection either. This woman had confided in him. She had allowed herself to be vulnerable in front of him, and we’ve seen time and again how he reacts to people acting this way around him. He gets protective. He takes it on himself to shield that person, to take on their pain and shoulder it for them. That deep compassion and empathy is what made him a good lawyer, and it’s what makes him a good detective. But it’s also what makes him so vulnerable to trauma, and why it wounds him so deeply to see suffering
And Sawa’s death, it’s really not all that different from Emi’s is it? In Yagami’s mind, Emi died because he missed something. Even after it becomes clear that Okubo was innocent, even after Sugiura absolves him of any responsibility in Emi’s death, you can still see the guilt all over him. If only he’d seen it sooner. If only he’d paid better attention. He’s thinking the same thing with Sawa. If only he’d been quicker to put the pieces together. If only he had done this instead of that. If only if only if only
That shit’ll fuck you up, and we see it every time he gets self righteous with Kuwana. We see his guilt and his anger and his regret. It’s written all over his face, in his body posture, you can hear it in the shake of his voice and in the words he chooses (god bless kimutaku and his fucking ace voice work). He feels responsible for Sawa’s death, even after Kuwana tells him it wasn’t his fault, and it weighs on him. He can see in his mind the fear and horror on her tear stained face, this truly innocent woman who had put her trust in him, and who he had all but promised to keep safe and out of harm’s way. And it breaks him
Idk I just really like Yagami, and I really hate Kuwana y’know?
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majimemegoro · 1 year
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RK gang leaders love reacts only
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overdevelopedglasses · 3 months
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Specter
2150 words
Chapters: 1/1
Rating: Mature
Relationships: Yagami Takayuki/Kuwana Jin
Characters: Yagami Takayuki, Kuwana Jin
Summary: An unexpected visitor arrives at Yagami's agency��
Written as a birthday gift for @four-white-trees
Author's word below the cut~
Happy Birthday! It's been so fun getting to know you these past few months and you're such a fun person to talk with. Hope you enjoy my very first take on Kuwagami :3
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fire-tempers-steel · 7 months
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Regarding Sawa and Kusumoto
I’ve had some meta-thoughts rattling around my brain about Kuwana / Yagami parallels. The game makes a lot of these parallels completely textual – “Two Sides of the Same Coin”, Kuwana’s own words…
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Kuwana is Yagami’s shadow, of course– shadow-self, another path he could have taken. 
What I want to talk about in this post is the parallel roles of Sawa Yoko and Kusumoto Reiko in Yagami and Kuwana’s respective justifications for their sense of what’s right. In a very real sense, Sawa is Yagami’s trump card for his justification, and Kusumoto is Kuwana’s. 
I’ll also get into how Sawa-sensei and Kusumoto-san’s respective agency and experiences play into or contrast with how Yagami and Kuwana are interpreting their stories, and make some remarks about what the game does with those narratively.  
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Starting with Kuwana, Kusumoto is clearly the person in his history he’s the most protective of. He makes frequent reference to how he’d never give her away, and believes for a long time she would never betray him either. And he even forgives her without hesitation upon learning she betrayed him for Mitsuru’s sake. 
Kusumoto-san, I believe, crystallized the purpose he set for himself in order to assuage his guilt. She also gave him company in that, by taking up some of that blood on her own hands, and conferring a kind of gratitude that was almost like forgiveness to him, for his inaction. 
I loved that the game let Kusumoto’s decision to come clean completely eviscerate Kuwana, just have him on the floor begging and bawling. She really was a foundational brick in the foundation of his vigilante-justice-in-the-hands-of-the-forgotten narrative, and the breakdown he suffered was pitch-perfect.
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Now what of Kusumoto Reiko herself? I think it’s interesting that the game does give more than ample space to ask the question of whether she’s justified, from a few different angles. 
First, Kawai’s judgment, from her personally. She wanted to give him a chance to show he truly meant it when he begged her for forgiveness. He failed completely to recognize her, acting like a boor. The game itself also narratively tells us in other places that he bragged about his bullying – no remorse there. 
Her torture of Kawai before his death seems to have had an effect on her– she doesn’t regret it, but it was difficult for her, she didn’t relish in it. And at the end of the day, she still was grateful to have the chance to enact justice, and it gave her a kind of bitter peace. 
But the revenge didn’t help her son live. And the moment he came to life, she realized that she could not undo the blood on her hands, that she had, in her rage, erased her chances to live a normal life with her son. She was in the shadow. 
Now, let’s talk about Yagami and Sawa. 
Much to-do is made of how often Yagami harps on “what happened to Sawa-sensei” as his one and only fallback for justifying to Kuwana and his accomplices (co-murderers?) that their actions are wrong. Others apart from me have pointed out that the narrowness of his argument is exactly the point: without cold, hard evidence that someone had gotten hurt as a result of their web of lies, Yagami has a lot less to go on (even to himself!) to make his case. 
This holds weight with Kusumoto, because of Sawa’s fundamental decency (in contrast to Kawai’s, might I add!). 
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And ultimately the combined guilt of having betrayed the one decent classmate to Mitsuru, and the parallels of “keeping secrets for life kills” that Sawa presented did wear down Kusumoto and influence her decision to come clean. 
The fact that Yagami pins his convictions on Sawa-sensei makes sense. But it is interesting to contrast that with how she is. 
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Sawa is in some ways, powerless and even lacking in conviction to act on what power she does have. Sawa has been a bystander for not one, but three cases of serious bullying, by the time the game starts (Mitsuru, Toshiro, Koda)-- and has never been able to follow through on speaking up for the victims. Speaking out against those who covered up their horrendous neglect (hello? What even happened to that horrible teacher who covered up Toshiro-kun's bullying??)
Yagami, on the other hand, handles Koda’s bullying case with uncanny grace for an outsider. Not only does he prevent the bullying and start to turn on the minds of the bullies, he does so by encouraging the other students to speak up. 
This also provides the parallel that I’ve teased out in the earlier discussion of Kuwana and Kusumoto’s relationship: both Yagami and Kuwana provide tools that they previously lacked to deal with the bullying problem. Yagami, some preventative medicine that worked wonders. And Kuwana, well, the power of Incredible Violence, I guess. The fact that Kusumoto embraces Kuwana’s tools whole heartedly, and Sawa resists Yagami’s interventions despite seeing them work is, I think, another interesting contrast between Sawa and Kusumoto. 
But to round it back to Yagami/Kuwana parallels and discussion, the contrast in the methods they both offer is, philosophically, is why I still align more so with Yagami than I do with Kuwana, even though I’m sympathetic to the realities the game is presenting: that the justice system failed the bullying victims. To focus on the prevention of further violence and injustice seems to me the kinder thing than to enact retribution in the shadows that’s so utterly violent that you believe it’ll prevent further violence (I don’t think this is true! I think Kuwana is very wrong about this! Punitive justice is not good!). 
I’ll end this with a tantalizing question – what kind of paths could be explored if Sawa had not been killed by Soma? I think there could be some really interesting canon-divergence AUs there, and I’m not guaranteeing they’d be positive ones either. Without Sawa’s death giving Yagami more solid justification for staying strong, there’s a lot less he could do, persuasion-wise, and internally, to get people on his side. But by the same token, there seems to be less of an immediate impediment to Kuwana and Yagami being on opposite sides…opportunities for both redemption arcs and corruption arcs there. 
Food for thought for ficcers ;) and feel free to run with this, if you like it. I’m a “many cakes for many concepts” fic enjoyer, so even if I did write such an AU, I’m sure it’d be particular and different. 
And if you've read this all, thank you! Kuwana and Yagami are living in my brain rent-paying <3
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four-white-trees · 6 months
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look how gaunt he became 😭 my man has been STRESSED
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majimassqueaktoy · 9 months
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Ngl ngl ngl if you like Kuwana and just think hes a fucked up weird little funny cunt I can respect it but as soon as you start the woobifying He Was Literally In The Right To Do All This Stuff type talk Imma be hitting that unfollow button FAST
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zekesplayground · 3 months
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moments in Judgment and Lost Judgment where I have no idea what's going on in the story because I'm way too distracted by THAT
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jichanxo · 4 months
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here i thought i'd become what i always should have been, but since i've met you, i'm--
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passthroughtime · 2 months
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so, i, uh. have been (re)playing LJ as i’ve mentioned before. and this moment has been stuck in my brain for several days now, though it’s stupid AS FUCK, and i was prepared to go insane other this scene (turns out, not enough...). not gonna be normal about this, of course.
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“probably never been washed” stop fucking projecting, yagami. and of course it’s a video game and yada-yada, that’s why we can’t see the stains. but there’s still NONE as far as we can tell. yagami, this way you won’t be able to beat the little hater allegations, as much of a good lawyer you are.
“can’t imagine the stink” why you, as a man, need to imagine how another man stinks if you don’t smell it already, there’s probably none. not to the point of being a ‘stink’. and don’t get me started on the fact that you still have no proof that it wasn’t washed ever. calm the fuck down.
other than that, i love this addition to the game. “the place he sleeps at is stinky and dirty, and has been for the last several years. stinks how, you ask? let your imagination run wild! but yeah, obviously nobody fucks this man. not here, at least. there’s not enough space for two people and who in the right mind would be excited to do the deed lying on this thing? so, here’s an important lore tidbit for you: the only two actions there probably happening are sleeping in dirty clothes and jerking off without cleaning after. you’re welcome.”
also this:
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why does yagami have the need to be this pathetic. i love him, obviously, but he’s such. just so. yeah
things to note:
1) at least kuwana sleeps with sheets on. can’t say the same about the lil hater here.
2) and that’s why i’d be concerned about the smell of the sofa more actually, if anything. it looks pristine... but lets not forget that kuwana has the power of bedsheets on his side.
3) the only thing that keeps yagami motivated to work is that he can’t sleep or even sit comfortably in the only semblance of a residence he has. apparently.
4) this whole scene is funny as hell tbh. “he can’t even wash the dishes 🙄” look who’s talking. “could this chair be where kuwana sits?” you’re so stupid. can we kiss?
5) there were literally zero braincells used by yagami here. he’s just bitching during any other options which aren’t plot-related but available for investigation. YOU HATE HIM! WE GET IT! SHUT UP!!!
6) yagami at least had the decency not to voice the thoughts shown above to kaito. i’d honestly be embarrassed.
7) i have. So many thoughts about how disgusting they are. and i don’t even want to think them, let alone say them to anyone.
conclusion: what the fuck was that. i’m so pissed. leave me alone. preferably as far from these losers as possible. until they’d have a hour-long shower at least.
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bother-blame · 1 year
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IS THERE REALLY A RIGHT ANSWER HERE?
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woundedheartwithin · 10 months
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