Animators' Perspective on FNAF Animatronic Facial Animation
/long post talking about animation
I really like how Steel Wool animators animate how the animatronic talk. They don't need to move their jaws when they speak (as they can just project their voices from their chests), but during normal operation they move their jaws to look more lifelike. What I notice in a lot of fan animations is that for every word/syllable, the jaw will fully open and close to emphasize every word/ syllable. This always struck me as odd, as it never looked right. The reason it doesn’t look right is because that's not how humans talk.
In the newer games, the animatronics open their mouths fully during the beginning of sentence, and make smaller motions with their jaws depending on the syllables/words they say, then fully close/go slack when they are done speaking the sentence. This is a good fix to try to make facial motions more lifelike while working within the constraints of their rigid faces.
When we humans talk, we do not open and close our jaws the entire time we talk. Our jaws stay open for most of the time we talk because we literally project sound from our mouths, so the jaw stays open when speaking and only closes when you're done talking. But when you speak, there appears to be a lot of movement, due to the lip/facial muscles moving to enunciate the sounds you make to create the syllables needed for words/sentences. When you talk, you do tend to move your jaw a bit, mainly due to movement of your tongue in your mouth. But again, most of the motion is in your lips and facial muscles. Because the animatronics don't have lips/skin, the only way they can mimic naturalistic facial expressions is by moving their jaws in small motions.
Example Sentence: Way to go super star! I knew you could do it
Here is a clip of one of the sentences Glam Freddy says. Put your hand on the side of your face so you can feel your top and bottom jaw. Say the sentence above and notice how far and often you actually move your jaw when talking. A lot of the movement is in your lips and face, not the jaw. Look at how he talks, he only moves his jaw a little bit during the sentence itself, mimicking the small jaw motions. He only fully opens/closes his mouth when he is done speaking.
Speaking of other facial feature work arounds, they achieve a similar “cheat” with eye animation. When we talk and emote, we tend to move not just our eyes, but the skin around them, like your cheeks and eyebrows. In order to get more dynamic facial expressions, the bots twist and spin their eyelids in order to mimic the scrunching looks you can get on your face. Example, look how Roxy, Yendo, and Freddy tilt the axis of their eyelids to give the impression of anger/sadness
There is also a little trick used sometimes when staging characters to convey facial expressions. While the jaw/face cannot change shapes, the angles they are viewed at can change the way the shapes are seen. Showcasing characters from certain angles can give better impressions of designs while others can be awkward or odd looking. These selective angles can be applied to convey facial expressions as well. Ex. Roxy, when looking at her face from the front or with her face tilted down, she appears to be smiling, but looking at her face from below gives a more neutral look. Jaw placement here is also important, with her jaw opened wider it looks like she is smiling, but a closed jaw makes her mouth look more neutral or like she's frowning. (a similar effect can be seen in the other glam models as well)
As an animator, facial expression is incredibly important to convey convincing character acting. Every time you animate a character, you have to troubleshoot and figure out solutions to get the best performance from the design you are working with. Can’t animate mouth shapes because the character doesn't have skin/muscle? Have them move their jaws subtly when talking to mimic tongue/lip motion. Can’t scrunch the eyes? Rotate the eyelids to give the impression of different eye shapes. They're great little tricks to give otherwise very stiff models the impression of life like movement.
Refs for talking points/animation reference:
jaw/tongue/lip motion in mri
good vid on animation lip sync
mouth shapes in general
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Update 8: The Great CC Purge of 2024
Ok, so after a nice break from even looking at my PC, I’ve started making decent headway in my project of deleting all the CC I either never use, or no longer want in my game anymore.
More details under the cut!
I pretty much stopped loading the game altogether and just started to sort and delete things using the Sims 4 Mod Manager (click here to check it out). It’s really streamlined the entire process.
My only complaint is that it’s not useful for CC that doesn’t have thumbnails and it doesn’t detect broken CC at all. But I’ve already gotten rid of 100 GB of CC I knew I didn’t want this way, and I’m maybe 3/4 of the way through my first round.
Eventually I will need to load up the game to do the final round and use the Sims 4 Tray Importer (click here to check it out), and while I’m dreading that part, it’ll take so much less time now thanks to the mod manager.
When my brain’s gotten too fried I’ve been playing some RimWorld. It really scratches the story itch Sims 4 usually does for me, tho it obvs uses lo-fi graphics and has an entirely different vibe. It’s more of a resource managing story generator than a life sim. And it’s hella sci-fi. Not sure if there’s much of a fan base for it on Tumblr, but it’s probably my second favorite game to play after the Sims 4. I’ve put in almost 10k hours since I started playing it Early Access in 2017.
So, yeah! This project has been so much more of an undertaking than I initially thought it would be, and I’m done predicting when it will be done since I’ve had a lot of random obstacles thrown my way throughout this whole ordeal. But I’m starting to see the faintest bit of light at the end of tunnel.
The best part about all of this is that I miss the game so much that it’s probably all I’ll wanna play once this is done. I have a draft detailing the process in the works that will make this a lot less painful for anyone else needing to do this.
Welp, back at it!
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I have ventured far and wide from the kingdom of A03 to hear your rant about the language of The Mer.
AW HECK YE I'M ALWAYS READY TO RANT
Sound under water is in general rather garbled and carries oddly, meaning if you tried using long and complicated words, odds are half of them would just get lost (good luck saying something like metamorphosis). How does one get around that? I figure by infliction. The mers sing, click and whistle, much like whales, dolphins, even some fish! This means one "word", aka sound can change meaning depending on what tune it gets sung to.
(gonna continue under a readmore as this got long, whoops)
For example, the sounds denoting 'light' can change to establish that it's light from above - which can be further specified into sunlight, moonlight, lights from boats, etc - depending on how it's sung out. Sing-songing something can completely and utterly change its meaning XD
Noun modifiers and grammatical cases can take form of either tonal changes, or chirps or whistles - if you whistle out a sound instead of singing it, or if you whistle before, during, or after making it. This means the previous example of the light sound can now denote 'light coming from below and assumed dangerous'.
(This also means Sun's and Moon's actual names are oddly specific because every little part of it adds meaning to the whole)
NOW ONWARDS TO THE NICKNAMES!
I translated the mers' preferred nickname for the reader as 'bright/kind heart', but going into the nitty bitty details of it, and considering infliction, additional sounds and hums, there's a thousand variations to this. In this case, 'bright' and 'kind' is the same word, meant to indicate something that is warm and loving, shining and safe, and as such it's simply understood as part of the word that this something being describes is dearly beloved.
For 'heart', it isn't the anatomical concept as much is it means 'soul', 'core', the very essence of a creature's being. The mers both use this to refer to the reader, but sometimes add a tonal shift that makes it closer to 'OUR core': meaning sometimes they're talking about the reader's heart, sometimes they're basically calling the reader their heart like the giant sappy idiots they are.
And of course they add a whole bunch of descriptors, most often 'ours' (or 'my' if they're alone with the reader), but also just 'small', 'cute', or 'pretty'. So the nickname can really vary from 'glowing heart of ours' to 'kind little soul'.
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hello hello hello. i just want to say i saw a post you made about recommending 'surviving romance' and looking at the other ones you talked about i saw you had good taste and i was like. Sure!
oh my gosh. This Comic.
Is
Amazing.
just! I LOVE IT SO MUCH
like this is the type of thing I've been Craving. I admit i have a fondness for the isekai type set up you typically see in webtoons and manwha, and i love to indulge myself in the cliche ones that have heart, but sometimes i get. so tired of them.
i love world building! i love seeing beautiful art! i love the protagonist coming into their and their personality!
However, as time has gone on, my tolerance for one specific trope has weakened and weakened, until now it's gone to a point where I almost immediately stop reading when I sense it. It's hard to describe, but it's where like,,, it feels that the other female characters are only being used to prop the protagonist as the 'most special', you know? and the story does this by demeaning the other female characters (of which there are like. two other female characters, or something,)
An example of this that I see the most (and which usually gets me to run in the other direction) is where the original heroine of the light novel gets 'bashed' in some way, and turns out to be evil. And sure, it can be written well! but it happens every. time.
and it's like! It really gets on my nerves because everything the original heroine does will be immediately nitpicked, most of all by the readers/audience.
She engages in pleasant conversation with the protagonist? Clearly she's absolutely fake. She keeps to herself and barely glances at anybody? How standoffish. She's outgoing and enthusiastic when talking to people? Nobody's taught her any manners. She obliviously chats away in an awkward situation? Wow, she can't read a room at all. She runs away from a clearly dangerous situation? Filthy coward. She helps somebody who turns out to be dangerous? Naive and an idiot. She smiles? She's a snake. She's too dumb to live. She's plotting something. She's selfish. She's vain, too focused on her looks.
What makes it even more infuriating is when I have seen OUR protagonist have the same behavior as the OG heroine, and nobody made a peep! When people only hate it because they see in other characters, and not our protag. Or when there’s a sharp contrast between the traits of the OG heroine and isekai protagonist. Like ooo, our isekai protag is cunning and smart, unlike OG heroine over there who’s naive and gullible and too trusting.
(meanwhile, if protag did the exact same thing as the OG heroine, protag would be called kind and compassionate)
Some of the time, the comic signals you to ‘hate’ this OG heroine character over these little, little things. Like, for example, the POV character thinking ‘Can’t you read a room?’ in a situation where the original heroine is just trying to like. Talk to people, and there’s an awkward atmosphere for Reasons. (Which, by the way, I have a special disdain for this reason for ‘hating’ a character. Social cues are hard, man, and in these cases a lot of the time the heroine wasn’t even trying to be insensitive.)
But other times, there isn’t ANY prompting from the comic to hate her, and the audience spouts all of these things off anyways! She breathes and people look at her like she’s a threat. And yeah, I understand it’s partly due to readers being genre savvy and knowing that authors really like to make OG heroines evil/unlikeable, but it puts a bad taste in my mouth when people start bashing/hating a character who’s been in the comic for one (1) episode because she’s… There. Existing. Being the OG heroine.
and you know what? i think i know why this happens. i think it's because, due to her position as the Original Female Lead in the light novel, the author/audience feels like the OG heroine jeopardizes the position our isekai protagonist has in the story. Therefore, we have to beat her down in some way. We have to make so there’s never a chance that the love interests could love her. It’s not just that she has flaws, she has flaws that our isekai protagonist doesn’t have. She doesn’t have to be evil, she just has to be of ‘lesser worth’ than our protagonist. From the second an OG heroine steps into the story, she has to be constantly compared to our isekai protagonist in a kind of romance boxing match. And I just kinda. Hate that???? Hate that she’s automatically perceived as a ‘threat’ for existing?? for being a Girl??? for being somebody that the male protagonist could love??
Sometimes when I read the comments on a webtoon it’s like, god forbid women do anything. Literally.
And because we’re critiquing her so that she never threatens the protagonist’s position for Top Female Love Interest, whenever she does literally anything else, people will always be poised to hate on it. She will always be defined by the threat she has to the romance, and to the protagonist, and I HATE IT. Because why do women have to see each other as a threat? Why do they have to be defined by romance? Why does the audience always see women as a threat? If the OG heroine was so great a protagonist in the OG light novel, why can’t she stay that character? Why does she need to be reduced and cut down in order for the isekai protagonist to be cool and awesome?? There isn’t a finite supply of cool and awesome women juice! You can have two female characters be cool and awesome (in different and similar ways) and have other characters fall in love with them!
(As an aside, the character traits they pick to purposely make the OG heroine ‘unlikeable’ get on my nerves too. Sometimes they do a good job of it, other times it seems they just put the bare minimum into making OG heroine display an unlikeable trait before stopping. And then sometimes, the trait isn’t really hateable at all! I already said the whole thing about ‘reading the room’ earlier, which is a trait I can relate to, but aside from that… Like, she’s kinda ditzy? Not the smartest crayon in the box? So what?? Is she hurting anyone?? You’re gonna have to sell me more if you want me to decide she’s a ‘lost cause’!)
(Also, I realize ranting about the vilification of OG heroines when talking about SR is kinda funny, but honestly I'm not upset at all about OG chaerin eun because yeah, honestly, i'd go evil too if I had to deal with my life being a story. In addition... she's just fun to have as a villain hfasiucd. There's caveats to everything)
Going back to my initial statement for the trope of ‘disliking when women characters are used specifically to prop the protag up, because no one else is as great as her’, this extends even to ‘hopelessly devoted’ types of characters. Female characters who love the protagonist. These best friend types of female characters are allowed to be kind and skilled and pretty. But, you know, not as much as the protag. Never as much as the protag. We only really see them when the protagonist needs help. This is where a lot of maids and servants-type characters fall into, but don’t get me wrong! I love a lot of characters who fall into this archetype. I think it’s when it only either this or the hateable female characters that it strikes me as off. What I think strikes me as off about this ‘best friend’ archetype is that it’s defined by feeling a bit… uneven? Like the ‘hopelessly devote’ type of female characters feel like the isekai protagonist is almost ‘too good’ to be in the presence of them, if that makes sense. But, once again, I know I’ve found myself loving these type of characters before. Looking back, I’ve concluded there’s only one thing I need for it to not get on my nerves.
If there is a Single female character who can stand on equal footing with the protagonist, it’s all okay from me. A female character who can challenge the protagonist in some shape or form, and not be demonized for it. A female character who can exist with the protagonist, who the narrative doesn’t force to compete. A proof that the author/story won’t automatically portray female characters in a bad light because she is female. That is what I need.
Of course, I understand why there would be female characters like that, I do read these books for self-indulgence and I do love comeuppance upon people who have wronged you. Authors should write as they please, and if it’s not my cup of tea, that’s okay. Regardless, when I read a story where our female protagonist is only able to connect with male characters because our female protagonist is ‘not like other people’ and ‘special’, and the other female characters vapid or second fiddle to the protag, i mourn for the relationships that could’ve been.
This is a very, very, very long-winded way to say I love the female friendships we get in Surviving Romance.
I love that the girls can be smart, scared, fat, quiet, loud, weak, and you know what? As they should, because they are human. And I could probably go on about Surviving Romance more, but this rant has gone on far longer than I intended. Sorry if this is incomprehensible, I am very passionate about this it seems, and i guess i wanted to type it down in a place where somebody could semi-understand my pain??? I am so sorry oh my gosh, you don’t have to read all that or even reply, but I just want you to know you’ve give my brain like. Electricity by providing that recommendation for Surviving Romance. You have actual immaculate taste, thank you for your time, i just wanted to let you know you basically rewired my brain.
Honestly one of my biggest mistakes was making my first isekai Who Made Me A Princess which, like, doesn't do that shit and also The Villainess Lives Again which super doesn't do that shit. And then I read Your Throne whose entire conceit is tearing down that shit and identifying the Real Enemy: the patriarchy.
This was one of my biggest problems with time travel *kinda* villainess isekai, Solitary Lady where the other girl is her adoptive younger sister like...yeah she's a ditz but she was also adopted into the shitty abusive family, and in being kinda sheltered, fucking obviously she'd emulate the shitty abusive family members. The thing was that without her family's support, she was as good as abandoned and the instant she realized the protagonist was OP, she *did* do the allegedly smart thing and try to suck up to her so as to not be on her bad side. But she still gets a lot of shit for being??? Bratty??? Like okay, she's a teenager? Also, she's loved by the shitty family while protagonist girl isn't? Like okay, but how the hell is that HER fault???? And of course, there are some stories that just take a really mean-spirited and classist route (Solitary Lady definitely has its grossly classist fucking moments like there being a snide remark at the sister for being adopted, like fuck off how can you think you're in the right if you portray that shit as deserved). And then some just get weird. Shoutout to that one where the enemy was gay people. I hope this means another man stole your boyfriend, author.
Point being is that I have an absurd fascination with this genre. But the internalized misogyny (along with the serious classism on occasion) fucking sucks. Even initially decent examples such as Beware of the Villainess fuck up on that front with how little Yuri gets to do in s2. But I do still like this genre. I recently started In This Life, I Became The Queen, and I'm really enjoying it thus far. Sadly, its handle of non-protagonist female characters is...shaky thus far, but some of them haven't been fully introduced yet so there's still hope I think. Wouldn't count on it, but I do like the protagonist quite a bit. I found the depiction of her body insecurities to be mostly tactful. (Mostly) At the very least, it's pretty uncommon to portray a female character as unwilling to show off her figure because she was traumatized by how she was shamed for it. Which actually feels close to realistic. In general, Ariadne isn't as above it all as her fellow protagonists and her uncertainties and struggles feel a tad more substantial. Also, I like how she sweetens on the youngest sister.
Mind you for specifically your problem, I would just beg you to read Your Throne if you haven't already. Your Throne is *so* fucking good.
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