Gotham Incorrect Quotes Pt 155
Oswald: You saved me, Jim. I owe you my life.
Jim: No thanks, I've seen it and I'm not impressed.
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Ed, surrounded by pictures of Oswald: *frantically writing riddles*
Lee: Well Ed, I came over to see if you wanted to go to Cherry's, but I can see you're busy having an episode.
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Ed: The victims were dismembered and sacrificed on an alter made of antlers.
Jim: Dear God.
Ed: Most likely yes.
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Oswald: I think true unconditional love is like... do you love someone so much that you would even love them if they didn't love you anymore? That is unconditional love.
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I dunno what the song "Suburban Legends" by Taylor Swift is really about, but it reminds me so much of Leslie and Ben's relationship, from Ben's perspective.
Leslie had people who called her on unmarked numbers -- the meetings with the campaign managers that she tried to hide from him. But Ben knew the whole time, they were in his peripheral vision, and he let it slide, he was never upset with her for lying to him about it. All was quickly forgiven.
She was so magnetic it was almost obnoxious, flushed with the currency of cool. Drawing people to her easily, making connections. He was always turning out [his] empty pockets -- socially awkward, making enemies without trying.
And just like all the other towns he'd visited, when it came to Pawnee, he didn't come here to make friends. Just another stop on the road.
And they were born to be suburban legends and national treasures, and Ben knew it immediately, clocking that just like him, she wanted to run for government office someday. (And eventually, governor and president!) She didn't have to tell him, he could just see it. It's like they were made for it.
Tick-tock on the clock is the countdown in the first episode of Season 4, when Ben knew they had to break up soon for Leslie's campaign. He broke [his] own heart 'cause [she] was too polite to do it, initiating the breakup because Leslie was too scared of hurting him. And even after they broke up she kept trying to get close to him, and he had to be the one to push her away even though he didn't want that, really.
You don't knock anymore, and my whole life's ruined is about the post-break up, when Leslie kept trying to push and barge into his life, hurting Ben every time she did it.
And she told [him they'd] get back together, and she kissed [him] in a way that's gonna screw [him] up forever -- I imagine he knew early on that Leslie was the one for him, that he'd never love anyone else as much.
And when you hold me, it holds me together could be about their relationship as a whole but it reminds me in particular of their post-breakup reunion. 'Cause he was miserable in early Season 4 without her. Falling apart, lashing out. And their reunion at the end of "Smallest Park" was a huge moment of catharsis and comfort and setting things right.
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Do you guys pair the Slasher/Monster with the final girl?
As a horror fan, I did. And I've come to wonder if there's something wrong with me. Since ordinary people don't would do that, nor would that cross their minds
And the fact is that, at certain moments, there is a weird tension between the antagonist and the protagonist. Have you felt it too? Is that tension planned? Or do we only see it?
Well, I think I have the answer. The truth seems to me that the writers do it intentionally. I think they are inspired by gothic/dark romance
It's a modern way of narrating such stories. You know, the popular "beauty and the beast" concept
● But, What's dark/gothic romance?
Dark romance: Dark romance is a lot like how it sounds--romance novels with darker themes, with mature content for adult readers. Dark romance novels often come with content warnings, and they can explore BDSM, role playing, abduction, rape fantasies, and kidnapping and captivity
The "hero" is usually an inflicter of most if not all of that. There is a huge audience for it, but no matter how tortured or "justified" the "hero" is, I just can't get past it to see him as redeemable or loveable in any way.
Gothic romance: Characterized by a dark, foreboding atmosphere and outlandish, sometimes grotesque, characters and events, gothic fiction has flourished and branched off into many different subgenres in the centuries since its creation.
Female leads would come to dominate gothic romance, especially after the publication of Charlotte Brontë’s Jane Eyre in 1847. A young woman struggling to maintain her independence as she falls for a dark, brooding, handsome man
● How would the basic concepts be interpreted in slasher movies?.
"The Distressed Heroine: Typically, the lead of a Gothic Romance is a woman attempting to figure out what is right for her heart, and what society expects of her. She will usually have a force, often an overprotective father, standing between her and her love, though she, or someone else, will find a way around him. Regardless of whether the story is inp first or third person, we experience terror alongside her and are meant to empathize with her"
The Distressed Heroine would clearly be The Final Girl. She who at first seems to be an innocent and harmless girl to become an independent and strong girl, defeating the monster...
"The Byronic Hero: Named after the Romantic poet Lord Byron, the Byronic hero is what led to the creation of the antihero. There are aspects of the Byronic hero that aren’t positive, yet the characters are written in such a way as to make it impossible to hate them, even after they do something horrendous. Some qualities of the Byronic hero include: violent temper, seductive nature, cynical, sinister secret or desire, prideful, moody, and revengeful. On the flip side, they are often capable of deep, strong affection, have a tortured soul crying out for compassion, and are viewed as solitary, suffering beings wanting love. A good way to describe the Byronic hero is as a fallen angel"
The Byronic Hero would be the Slasher/Assassin/Monster. It's true that most don't want to be heroes on purpose, if they eliminate what they consider evil or impure, kill a meen boy or girl or an abusive person. In most cases they kill innocent people. But there is no denying that many of them were abused or bullied as children
"Secondary Love Interest: Often, there is another character complicating the situation, forming a love triangle with the heroine and hero. This secondary love interest can be for the heroine, often seen as a kind gentleman she has known since childhood, or for the hero, often seen as a sinister seductress"
There is not much to say, the typical guy who has an interest in the final girl. Or he will be a potential partner or couple. On many occasions, he helps the final girl defeat the monster, or ends up killed by him
▪ Also, [slashers] film presents us in startlingly direct terms with a world in which male and female are desperate odds... But in which, at the same time, masculinity and femininity are more states of mind than body. Whatever their souls are made of, she and he are the same...
What do you think?
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