#it doesn’t feel like succession at all

[azacello]

no bc they rlly got me with that “do you remember what he did to you? I was there” bc up to this point no one has been genuine about the abuse. They’ve used it in power plays, in weird psychosexual soliloquies, everytime someone else’s experience of abuse has been brought up it’s been transactional. Say sorry because you neglected Connor, feel an emotion because you hit Roman. But stewy… man! It was just this one last Hail Mary to get Kendal OUT. And the only way kendal knew how to respond to probably the only non-transactional ‘normal people’ exposition of abuse was trying to get his own transaction to go through while offering nothing in return because stewy showed his hand and Kendall knew he wanted Nothing but Him.

#succession #kenstewy #yeah. #I get why they took that line out #it doesn’t feel like succession at all #not the right vocabulary not the right tone not the right jargon #but it would have been So great had they kept it in #just this one genuine plea that doesn’t even sound like it should be in the show #before as we all know hell breaks loose tomorrow #just this ONE time #and it didn’t work #the fact that this was in some fucking variety ? idk which magazine interview #this is what happens when you give Middle Easterns representation actually #they rock ur world #here is a secret I appreciated succession like I appreciate any good media #e.g the first 3 seasons of breaking bad #sort of an undeniably well made thing #but they put an Iranian on screen and he gave an unhinged interview and now…. #crazy thing is I’m not even saying any of this with the homoerotic subtext we all love #the kids to adult childhood friends trope where they witnessed each other’s abuse and now they want to run the fucking world #that.

[yennao]

Decided this place doesn’t have an Older Danny that’s fucked up enough. I need him heavier on the ice powers. I took it upon myself to start cookin.

Here’s a 28 yo, depressed, technically homeless, absolutely miserable ghost who continues to protect amity park with the same love he always has.

#danny #danny phantom #danny fenton #Older Danny #aged up characters #aged up au #aged up Danny Phantom #he’s almost 30 #He has not been enjoying these 14 years #He’s exhausted #he can’t keep a job #he can’t live with his parents anymore #he’s either couch surfing or he’s not sleeping at all #the only reason he’s not died yet is because he’s already dead #his ‘home’ is just amity park #more like his liar #his haunt #maybe #People still don’t know how to feel about him #but he’s still more comfortable in Ghost Form #He crashes with Valerie a lot #they’re sort of dating #it’s complicated #she’s successful #she’s the red huntress #she doesn’t know he knows #or that he’s Phantom #Nobody but the usual gang does #and Paulina #after a very strange evening for them both

[loveandthings11]

Understanding in 1x02 vs 4x03:

*deep breath*

Early on, this is what Shiv sees:

This is what she doesn’t see:

Kendall is cornered into talking about the business. Wordlessly, gently threatened into it when he said he didn’t want to right now. Gerri and Karl aren't in mourning. They are doing their jobs, and they’re testing him to see if he can do his. If he said no and walked away, the company would be taken out of family control, Logan would be furious, and he'd lose out on his dream forever.

Shiv sees none of that happen, and Kendall doesn't even tell her about it- maybe because he thinks she wouldn't listen, maybe because she said she thinks he’s weak already, or maybe because he just almost never defends himself in general. But she can’t see his perspective without knowing what happened.

The lack of understanding between them results in this disaster:

She thinks he’s being cold by talking to the nominating committee, but we see how he really feels. He just always turns to reason and order in times of crisis and she doesn’t really know that.

He has not forgotten this conversation or Shiv’s perception of him here. He doesn’t want that:

Shiv’s been inside Waystar now. She knows now that talking business for a minute during a dark time doesn’t mean you don’t care. In fact, she did it while Kendall was confessing his worst moment, but it didn’t mean she loves him less. She knows him better now and has seen that he’s anything but emotionless. No one criticizes him for turning to reason and order this time. They ask for it.

No matter what happens, he won’t forget this nice conversation either. He won’t forget that his siblings finally see him the way he’s always hoped they would: as the big brother who can make hard decisions in seemingly impossible moments. He’s the one who can shepherd them through it. There’s trust there now and they finally know how it feels. The door will be open for togetherness now, even if it looks like it might close for a while. It’s not that they changed as people, it’s that they’ve learned how to read each other.

Not seeing each other’s perspectives led to having to be alone:

Now, it seems, even though they will struggle for a while, they have an understanding.

🤍

#us 🥹 #really what he’s wanted from the very beginning #Jesse can talk all he wants about not believing in growth but it’s all over this episode #I mean #they are the same people #but now they get each other #doesn’t mean there won’t be backslides but they will remember how much better they feel together #as we’ve seen with ‘I don’t know if me and you come back from that’ they do always come back together #there are so many parallels between these episodes my brain had sparks going the whole time #they are all happier like this and they won’t forget that #I have always been obsessed with 1x02 #the way Karl says you’re in no fit state gives me goosebumps #yeesh #succession parallels #kendall roy #succession #succession season 4 #roman roy #I wonder how much money I’d have if I cared about my side jobs as much as I care about this #shiv roy #shit show at the fuck factory #Connor’s wedding #succession spoilers

[murdererofthumbs]

Listen, although I do find it pretty exciting to see Kendall entering his Evil Era and actually becoming a killer, I can’t stop thinking about the consequences of him leaking all the shitty mud information they have on Logan. Like yeah, PR-wise that might be a great idea, it might actually solidify his position as a CEO (and he is obviously going to try and fuck up Matsson deal and take over the Waystar - I don’t know why he would want to captain the fucking sinking Titanic, but okay). But on the other hand, all the dirt coming out about Logan will be potentially catastrophic for Roman. Apart from the fact that Kendall is very clearly betraying his brother, literally like 5 seconds after he preached about them being a team; Roman will very likely suffer the most if stuff about Logan being an abusive father comes out.

First, it will flip his whole viewpoint upside down - he is so deep in denial and so trauma-bonded to Logan that he doesn’t even acknowledge his abuse, not even when in happens in real time. He doesn’t want to see his father as a monster and as his abuser, because that would actually require him to accept that he was a victim, that he was this beaten dog that everyone already sees him as (to one degree or another). Not to mention all the lies he tells himself about Logan and him being a good dad will go straight down the drain, and can you imagine what happens when something you believed for 40-or-so years cracks down in front of you? Kendall is about to break his reality.

Another aspect is that exposing Roman’s abuse to the whole world will likely destroy any and all opportunities that Roman ever had when it comes to rising to power (even if I’m unsure how much he actually cares about becoming a CEO). He might get some sympathy points, although I very much doubt that he will ever accept that form of pity from anyone. His image will be forever tainted and solidified as “the abused one” or the “one that was hit by his dad”. Can you imagine Roman’s reaction when that whole shitshow leaks? He does say at some point in the preview that he is finished, and although it might allude to Gerri putting out the whole dick pic situation, it might also very well be that his public image will forever now revolve around how his dad hit and abused him (his dad who was essentially his god in more than one way, who he was, and is trauma bonded to, who he came back to time and time again).

Kendall has a tendency of using his siblings trauma to forward his own position (even when he wanted to one up Logan in episode 2 by bringing up Roman’s and Connor’s trauma) and this is no different. But it’s a very easy way for him to blow up whatever alliance was ever between sibs. So yeah, I think Kendall as a killer is a great thing to watch, but also… well, Roman girl in me is already screaming in the void from the possible pain we might come to watch unravel in real time.

#succession #roman roy #like my boy might be delusional about pre-greving or whatever #but the fact is that he is for some real mental breakdown #if all the emotions and everything comes down on him like a ton of bricks #and lets not forget that Roman is innately incapable of actually dealing with his own emotions #everything he feels or might potentially feel gets locked up in a cage (hah) and the key gets immediately thrown out #he retreats into himself just to not feel stuff that might break him #not to mention that I was very carefully watching him for past 2 episodes #and just going by his breathing patterns (yes I know insanity of a fan) #but Roman seems to be constantly on the verge of a panic attack #so imagine what will happen when he will be aggressively confronted with all the shit he doesn’t want to face or acknowledge #im torn between obv not wanting it for him #but I also strive on my favourite characters being in pain #and i have not seen roman breakdown yet #and im actually a bit hungry for it #so yeah #kendall is a killer and his brother might very well be his new victim #(hopefully not in a literal sense I don’t fucking want any deaths im also not emotionally equipped for that) #succession hbo #kendall roy #kieran culkin #succession 4x04 #succession season 4 #marta rumbles poetically #succession spoilers

[brookheimer]

like i think every time rome would start to think ab it he’d be like ‘dad wouldn’t care if i called him a cunt are you kidding me it’s dad i’m me’ and i think logically he’d know how unlikely it is. but knowing something does not always mean feeling it and in this case it’s really hard for me to imagine roman not being haunted by it

#like as long as the possibility exists that’s terrifying. add in the symbolic killing —> literal death touch and like…. #idk. i don’t think it’s a sign of rome considering himself as someone who has agency or enough weight to harm people like logan #like to me it feels like the opposite of agency. like this sort of cosmic karmic punishment #that’s how i think rome would feel ab it — less that he’s capable of killing logan and more that he somehow ushered in death by standing up #to him. i don’t think rome believes in karma or anything like that but he has such a nonexistent sense of sp #personal agency that it feels to me like his belief in logan’s supremacy in own life kind of mirrors that cliche sort of old school catholic #fear and guilt #regarding punishment and all that jazz #so it would feel like some sort of universal retribution or like careful what you wish for or smth like that #which is BULLSHIT he knows it’s bullshit. but also…. he’s never stood up to dad before…. and dad never died before…. #he only died when roman did That Thing. #just bc he knows that any direct causal relationship is stupid and impossible for a variety of rzns doesn’t mean the fear and guilt doesn’t #linger. at least i know it lingers for me #idk if this is making sense it’s 4:11 am i’m tired lmaoo sorrtyyy #just thinking thoughts upon return from the bar #succession #succession spoilers #roman roy #casey shut the fuck up about roman roy

[communistkenobi]

I was always on the side of people who came forward with allegations of assault or harassment, especially in university because you’re surrounded by powerful people and the children of powerful people, but like going through those complaint processes for harassment and violence personally has made me realise that position is infinitely more correct than I ever thought possible

#literally no one cares about you and no one gives a fuck and you have to email fourteen hundred separate people just to realise that there #is no clear answer and no indication that anyone is willing to do anything for you #the barriers you have to overcome just to initiate a formal complaint are so fucking extreme and convoluted and you have to lick the ass of #every fucking middle manager asshole. and to what end #the job of all these inclusion committee people is pure kayfabe #anyway feeling extremely fucking. I don’t even know #and like im a ‘successful’ case. something MIGHT happen. maybe #maybe anarchists are right we just need to scrap all this shit. it doesn’t do anything anyway it just facilitates abuse

[trashbaget]

tell me your failed/embarrassing flirting stories to make me feel better, i’ll go first: today i said “get out of my way” forgot to say “i’m kidding” then immediately said “bye”

#it is awful having feelings for someone you know and have an established friendship with #but crushing on someone i barely know is knew to me and i legit feel like an idiot every time i do something stupid like this #i can’t just. talk to the guy #if i say hey and he says sup i say ‘sup indeed’ like what the fuck is that #i can barely even say hello to him #don’t get me wrong i’ve DONE it but most days i’m like #ah fuck there he is #okay you can do it just say hi #just say what’s up #and then he’s already gone #also. like. the setting we’re in is soooo not good for talking or flirting realt because um. it’s work he’s my coworker.. so um. do i fuckin #ask him for his number?? or to hang out??? but like. he’s kind of a stranger to me what do i want to hang out for 🧍 #but like. ​i dont want to do that until i have at least one successful interaction #or like. an actual conversation. #which is gonna be really hard to manage because he doesn’t talk much at all to anyone and i really only talk if someone talks to me first or #i’ll say something absolutely idiotic and ridiculous (and honestly i do that no matter what) #anyway so um. i guess i’m just gonna keep making a fool of myself until i get it right and hopefully i don’t screw it up 🥴 #i lost all my confidence in the last year and i cant do anything chill or smooth anymore (i was never that good in the first place but at #least i could PRETEND i knew what i was doing. like i could sell it. the whole weird and lost bit.) #anyway. i felt better for like 5 minutes when some guy at the gas station flirt failed with me on the way home. but that’s partly my fault #too oops. in his defense he probably could not see that i had headphones on bc upon mirror inspection they were well blended with my hair #but i was waiting to cross the street and this guy tried to like nod and smile and i did not know it was to me until i got to the other side #where the gas station was and and like. tried again and i awkward half smiled and saw his face get all mushy and confused like mine FELT 20 #mins before when i’d flopped so hard trying to flirt and by the time i’d processed WAIT i think he was FLIRTING WITH ME i was already gone 🤡 #but at least it ended better than the poor 14yo who very confidently asked for my number #who. i shit you not. SCREECHED for a solid 44.5 seconds and bolted the other direction when i said sorry im 21 #his friends were standing there like wtf too and one was like i am so sorry about him 🤦 #cheers to being fools universe

[prima-donna-worm]

each of the kids desperately, desperately trying but failing to find a way to forgive or absolve logan in his final moments and it not even mattering because he’s already fucking dead and there’s no one on the other end listening to them…… yeah. yeah

#succession #succession spoilers #something something about them trying to grapple with the enormity and the complexity of their feelings for him #trying to reconcile their love and their resentment and this sudden grief #and pouring their hearts out to an uncaring void because he doesn’t really listen to them. and now he never will. #yeah ok this was a good one lads #like of course they don’t forgive him. how could they why should they. but the fact that they all try……… oof

[wavesoutbeingtossed]

Thinking about how it’s taken to the age of 34 for Taylor to find a partner who is comfortable publicly existing with her and supporting her without a) treating her like a secret or b) eventually seeing her as a, well, ever-lovely reflective jewel, and that’s just wild.

Idk something about that video from yesterday of them just strolling through the stadium hallway like it was chill even in a very weird unchill situation and the vibes just being “we got this” is just… thinking thoughts.

#I wish I could say it’s just because Taylor has a unique life experience that makes her potential dating pool unique #but I have so many highly accomplished friends who have had trouble finding partners for very similar reasons lmao #(the reasons are men are insecure shits when it comes to successful women 🙃 especially when they’re more successful than they are) #I’m feeling that this whole experience has been. absolutely wild and revelatory for her #it’s just like… all over her #to be clear this isn’t shade at a particular person #it’s a commentary on how difficult it is for women to find partners who truly respect them #especially when they’re wildly successful/accomplished in their fields #just because Taylor has just about every advantage possible #(wealth beauty intelligence sense of humour connections etc) #doesn’t mean she doesn’t still face the same struggles that my friends and I and every girl like us faces #(not in a ‘stars they’re just like us’ way but in a ‘this is the female condition’ way)

[yellowsubiesdance]

i wish i could fully trust myself and say it was a good interview, but i legitimately have no idea

#i just don’t know if i answered all the questions correctly #i don’t know how i feel about my answers #and i had to ask them to repeat a couple of questions #which isn’t like the worst thing #but one of the times was directly after i said a good leader listens 😭 #ok i have to remember that this is just a job and if i don’t get it it doesn’t mean i’m a failure or anything #it just means it isn’t right for me right now #but i am gonna get the job! i did interview well! and i’m going to be in a good place in the fall!! #everything will happen exactly as it should #see? the doubt goes away just like that #fuck you doubt!! i’m good at what i do and i can be successful no matter what #i was honest with a sales pitch-esque vibe! #i spoke truthfully about my flaws without harshing them too hard #i got there early! to show that i’m driven! #the only reason i might not get it is if there’s someone who interviews better than me #but that doesn’t speak badly on me!

[akkivee]

what will they be doing when they’re on opposite sides from the rest of their team i wonder??? 🤔🤔🤔

#vee queued to fill the void #the fact the majority are 3gumi sends me honestly lmao thems misaligned 3gumi fr lol #i’ve been quietly excited for saburo and ramuda’s duet knowing where they both are in their stories (uncovering secrets) #and reading bbmtc➕ ch 12 just reinforced it lol boy i hope saburo doesn’t get burned by whatever secrets make up the yamadas #rio being on his own has only resurfaced my fears for his commander lol like #i’m hoping that with hoods means that he’s not going to that prison alone and that he’ll be successful most importantly #but samajuto with dead parents and partners out here whereas rio has none he’s talked about Scares me lol #for doppo i personally hope it sheds light on his family lol like i said on here #that he and the kannonzakas are looking out for the izanamis for hifumi tho idk what dice would have to do with that #maybe dice also will confront some of his family issues lol #*thousand yard stare at fcking harai kuukou* and yeah what about you mfer what are you doing away from your team #i’m trying not to be too worried since it’s jiro but whether you feel the story so far has reflected it or not #the yamadas are at the centre of it all and the beginning of it all too #if i were better at stringing thoughts together i’d explain how bb being consistent christmas babies ties into that lol #so i’m just a liiiiiiiiittle concerned about kuukou being paired with a yamada as happy as it makes me lol #c: rapping boys

[shortkingromanroy]

man i really struggle to sympathize with non-roy waystar execs.

like yes they’re entertaining, gerri is the ultimate #girlboss and is objectively the most ‘deserving’* of the permanent ceo role in terms of competence, both frank and gerri have the ever-under-appreciated hyper-competent employee thing going on, karl is just unintentionally hilarious..

but unlike the roy siblings who are (consciously or not) doing every horrible act they commit in order to gain their father’s love and respect, the non-roy execs are just there to make money.

and i think in a different show that could actually make them more sympathetic than the roys, but in this show it just kinda makes me contemptuous of them in a way i can’t bring myself to be toward ken shiv and rome. the execs don’t have the whole gilded cage thing keeping them at waystar and under logan’s thumb. they’re just That greedy. and yes the siblings are greedy too but.. idk

*every character on this show ‘deserves’ to never be permitted into a position of power again where they can hurt more people. but u get what i mean

#i’m curious abt other peoples thoughts here?? also the non-waystar characters are generally not included in this #like marcia willa stewy etc - i feel sympathy and connection to those characters sometimes #just like the siblings #don’t get me wrong - the roys have all done terrible things. but i’m not talking about moral character - i’m taking about likeability #like the fact that frank clearly has some affection for kendal doesn’t make me like frank but the sibling bond is Very Important to me #succession hbo #roman roy #shiv roy #kendall roy #frank vernon #gerri kellman #karl .. lastname

[myname-isnia]

Idk why I thought the new year would suddenly bring immense change to me as a person, it was such a childish belief, I can’t believe I let myself fall for it. The years go by but I remain the messed up anxious wreck who starts crying the second she’s left alone with her thoughts. The new year won’t change anything, nothing will

#just look at me #I could very possibly graduate from school in half a year and I still don’t know what I want to do with my life #I can’t take the slightest bit of criticism or else I’ll feel like shit for a week #I need to be staring at a screen at all hours of the day because if I don’t distract myself I will break down #I’m so obsessed with pleasing people that when I can’t fulfill the simplest of requests I want to die #indulging in hobbies. things that are supposed to be enjoyable. feels like hell for me #through all my years of creating there is only one piece I can honestly say I like and am proud of #and I haven’t even touched writing since because I’m scared of not being able to reach that high again #art comes a little easier but I’m only capable of one or two pieces a month #I don’t have anyone irl whom I trust. I’m so lonely that I literally have imaginary friends. at 17 #and I still haven’t figured out my gender or what pronouns I prefer. I don’t even like the name I picked for myself #I could go on forever #I don’t know how anyone puts up with me. I know I wouldn’t if I had the choice #I keep going on and on about how I want to get better. I don’t want to be so miserable all the time #but I just don’t know how #I try to be kinder with myself and I’ve been pretty successful at it but.. it doesn’t help #I can be soft and gentle all I want. it won’t make everything else go away #so there’s nothing left for me to do but cry all alone in my apartment at 2 a.m #I guess

[kendollroyco]

I have a major fear that Kendall is going to use Shivs pregnancy as leverage to keep her from getting the top position and I already want to die bc of it

#let’s be clear I don’t actually want her to get the top position #but if the reason she doesn’t get it is because of the pregnancy I will be ending it all #it sort of feels like it’d be fitting with everything else they’ve set up in the season so I’m just getting mad in advance #succession #kendall roy #shiv roy

[brookheimer]

i think jesse armstrong possessed me tonight at 8:07 pm. there is no other explanation

#exaggerating for the post lol cuz there Is an explanation and it’s that i’m a fucking genius. #but no like ok 1) all scenes of logan in trailer were from ep1-2 except for one scene of him by a plane with tom #2) obviously something is happening with a plane look at the poster #it was an educated guess so to speak #but i didn’t think he’d fucking DIE!!!!! i thought he’d like be in a wheelchair for a bit or smth and die next ep #god #like roman i still don’t know if i fully believe he’s dead. it just doesn’t feel possible #we didn’t see the body‼️‼️‼️ (we saw the body) #succession #succession spoilers #succession s4

[starlooove]

Genuine answer tho kindaaaa because my entire point with the tim wealth thing is that even if the point about it not having much basis in canon was true (which. Lmao) it’s still gonna impact how he’s written by the writers and viewed by the fans; when it comes to writing stories a lot of people see middle class as the Relatable class which is precisely why I think those hardcore Tim Stans are pushing it so much

#im not gonna make it long bc like. if u get it u get it there’s not much u have to explain #but i am gonna say it’s very funny they don’t wanna say he’s broke #if his wealth doesn’t matter at all they could easily say he has nothing #but they’re too classist to say it #hard assumptions buuuuut im not giving plot points don’t impact character guy the benefit of the doubt #when it comes to monetary status there are implications that come with them #when it comes to the general public middle class has the most neutral implications #atp with so many convos on class consciousness and negative traits associated with the wealthy #it feels like they just don’t want Tim associated with that #imo that’s what makes him cool #the fact that he’s extremely intelligent but held back by limited world view which can cause him to fuck up his relationships (steph) #or be callous and cruel in his words (Jason when Tim was first starting as Robin) #i think him choosing to be Robin even tho he would’ve arguably been extremely successful otherwise #and choosing to have this worldview expanded in ways that he might not like (his arrogance biting him in the ass meeting ppl like Lonnie- #-learning to extend empathy and compassion in a way that might seem unnatural at first) is cooler than middle class kid picked up by #billionaire like the other 20 #plus i think him being written as the opposite of Jason was so intentional that to ignore it is stupid. not even explaining like c’mon man #but i think the parallels this creates with Bruce -did NOT have to do that shit ur life is WORSE bc ur doing that shit- are fun #like in conclusion if u wanna ignore that Tim’s rich fine whatever #but ur so boring and I’d rather watch paint dry than hear whatever you have to say about him #there’s too many bad things associated with both lower class and higher class for them to be comfy with tim in either #so they’re pushing for neutral middle #just like tim isn’t arrogant and rude at times but he’s also not a complete pushover #so he’s smart but he forgets to take care of himself #he’s not Bruce’s favorite because Bruce is so mean but he can’t be Bruce’s least favorite so he does everything for him #just bland takes on bland takes bc God forbid the rich white boy has some spunk #which is a massive disservice to his character btw. like i hate on canon Tim a lot but he’s interesting to me #it’s why takes like this don’t even piss me off or anything it’s just. so boring #evil opposite to ‘Batman is the man Bruce is the mask’ #ur so smart and profound I’d love to hear more. please tell me about how much tim loves coffee and worshipped Jason as Robin.