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#if we don't get a s3 to watch them grow and learn to trust in their relationship i am going to set the entire world on fire
areyoudoingthis · 8 months
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god that fight was so funny but also such a great bit of writing!!! it was the perfect representation of their respective hangups. ed wants to turn away from violence but he doesn't think stede will want him if he's just a guy and not Blackbeard anymore, so instead of talking about it and taking it slow he speedruns through their entire relationship all the way to the breakup. and stede is so fucking terrified that ed will be disappointed in him, that he will fall short of ed's expectations, that he lashes out instead of comforting him. they are both so messed up and so desperately in need of being loved tenderly and slowly, I can't wait to watch them get there
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mirtola87 · 7 months
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"Tale as old as time", or how Good Omens planted a seed in my soul that's growing more and more (bettah) [2/2]
[Continues from Part 1] Then we started watching S2, and as it happens in any good mystery story, clues became evidences. Crowley and Aziraphale started laying their cards on the table. Throughout the episodes, they act more and more like an "us" and we get used to the idea that their side is a fact. No matter what happens, they will face it together, as they did more and more in the last 6.000 years of their "tale as old as time". Being a coup... ehm, "group of the two of us" without telling themselves and each other, walking on a wire. And then came the rainstorm, the canopy, Jane Austen, the ball, Beelzebub and Gabriel going off together, Nina and Maggie talking with Crowley. The moment not only the characters but the audience, too, realize that the ineffable love could be actually named and told. "Just a little change, small to say the least / Both a little scared, neither one prepared." It was pure revelation, mind-blowing and delightful. After 9 long years, I finally knew that they loved each other, that I loved them, and that I wanted them to be happy together, forever. If I could feel it so deeply, I wonder what it could have been like for Neil himself to discover that the two characters he knew so well from almost 30 years were in love with each other. And then, after 6 "quiet, gentle and romantic" episodes, exploring the evolution of the characters and their relationship and mutual influence through the time (6.000 years of bickering, longing glances and building trust in each other, "bittersweet and strange, finding you can change, learning you were wrong"), the last 15 minutes suddenly came and leave them (and us) heartbroken, as their love is told and denied in the very same moment. It was painful and devastating. And here I am now. Two months have passed since I saw S2 E6, and all that I, all that we can do is wait (and see, hopefully). But it's not, it can't be as before. Something in me has definitely changed. Or rather, it woke as if it had been long asleep. And it grows better and better. This story made me feel things I hadn't felt for years. It's making me feel love, and pain, and longing, and hope. It made me remember how great stories (amazing lies) can make you experience true, deep feelings ("true as it can be"); and it awoke my desire to tell stories and share feelings as well, a wish that had lied sleeping in the back of my mind for a long time. So yes, I am obsessed with GO, but it's not just about this story I love, it's also about me, I believe. And all the time in-between reading the book, watching S1 once, rewatching it and then watching S2 lead me to this, because things can develop and grow only with time. So I guess I should be grateful for that heartbreaking cliffhanger. If S3 had already been there for us to watch, I would have already consumed the answers I wanted. My mind would be at peace and probably none of this would have happened. Instead, I find myself full of questions (about the story, and about my life), I'm restless and eager, I'm painfully alive. And I feel like a new path, a new chapter, is opening before me. "Certain as the sun rising in the East", in the next years I'll be waiting for Neil to tell us about the "Neighbour of the Beast", and in the meantime I'll try my best to cling to that feelings as a precious gift, don't let them go, nurture them and use them for the best. There are many things I wish to thank @neil-gaiman for, but this is probably the most important so far.
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Wait so in the books Arya actually felt safe with the Brotherhood and the Hound took her away by force? Wow… just another dumb change in the show. I mean the Hound still took her by force but Arya was completely untrusting of the Brotherhood even when they were gonna take her to her family (they really wanted to make Arya an untrusting xenophobe didn’t they) and then after they sold Gendry, which I know they didn’t do in the books, she runs away after saying she hopes they all get killed.
And that’s how we got Arya and the Hound’s S3 and 4 adventures where apparently she grows to see him as a father figure. Sigh…
Hey @whitedragonwolf4961 !
I feel I may have exaggerated a bit with that. It's pretty complicated to be honest. When Arya first is with the Brotherhood she is pretty untrusting of them, she even notes how Anguy keeps talking to her trying to gain her trust and she refuses to let him influence her. I feel as though Arya didn't completely trust the Brotherhood to be honest because they were trying to ransom her, but she knew that they wouldn't hurt her either. Not because she thought they cared about her as an individual but because she was precious cargo. Either way, she knew she was safe with them and so was Gendry. Her finally feeling safe, even though she still felt some wariness among them, allowed her to take a breath and start working through some of her trauma, at least reflecting on it. It's why she's so scared that Catelyn and Robb wouldn't want her back if they learned what she had to do to survive. It's why she finally lets herself feel ashamed and guilty for having to kill while being so young, especially when it comes to the stableboy and the guard at Harrenhal and the men she had to kill when Amory Lorch's men attacked their Night's Watch group.
I don't think a lot of people realize these things about Arya's internal struggle in ASOS though because it's not explicit. It's quietly laid bare. And I don't think people realize that when Arya tries to boast sometimes, even in her own head, that she's trying to convince herself she's harder than what she is, hence why when she asked Edric Dayne if he has killed anyone and he bulks at it because he's only 12, she exaggerates about killing the stableboy at the age of 8 in her head but thinks better about saying it out loud. Naturally we know that Arya wasn't 8, she was nearly 10 and she'd know this. I think Arya's instinct though is to try to be harder and colder to exude a tougher persona. Arya boasts similarly, but out loud, with the Kindly Man when she is tasked with killing the insurance man, yet she keeps delaying it and trying to find reasons for why he's evil, thus deserving of punishment. I think if some readers actually paid attention to Arya they'd realize this, but so many readers just do not want to look at Arya in a deep and meaningful way, but to me it's plain to see, just like how it's plain to see why Arya uses the word "stupid" so much to try to cover up her insecurities (it's also her go-to insult), and how when Arya thinks about knowing a girl who used to love lemon cakes she is actually referring to herself, not Sansa, because of how Arya was repeatedly referring to herself during this time. But so many people just don't want to pay attention it seems.
So yeah, while I wouldn't say that Arya completely trusted the Brotherhood, she did feel secure enough with them to start reflecting on her trauma and even made her feel like she was safe enough to act like a kid with Gendry at Acorn Hall. IMO Arya didn't trust them completely only because they were intent on selling her, and that's it. It definitely had nothing to do with Arya being prejudicial and trying to other people for not being exactly like her, like the show tried to push. I mean Arya even has a fantasy about becoming an outlaw like Wenda the White Fawn and riding with Gendry. Obviously Arya has nothing against them being outlaws, especially since their mission, at the very least, had a more noble foundation, despite the stealing and the ransoming.
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timetragic · 1 year
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Morgana felt underdeveloped after S2
After Season 2, Morgana's personality didn't quite change. By Season 4, she became a bland villain who had so much potential. Someone here recently shared a Mergana amv of bad blood, and it honestly gave me so many ideas and chills for what could've happened in the story.
I wish Morgana knew about Merlin's powers in season 3. Morgana and Merlin already disliked each other, but having both of them know each other's secret would've been interesting. In this season, Morgana still isn't powerful enough to make a mark. She is still learning from Morgause and relies on regular weapons. Morgana's power this season comes from her status of being Uther's Ward/Daughter. Seeing her manipulating Uther, so he'll execute Merlin or just something bad, could've been an interesting plot for an episode or made existing ones like "The Castle of Fyrien" even more interesting Maybe at the end of this season, Merlin ends up capturing Morgana.
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Y'know how the title screen changes from s3 - s4. Instead of, "the destiny of a great kingdom rests on the shoulders of a young boy..." it changes to, "the destiny of a great kingdom rests on the shoulders of a young man.."
Well, I don't see it.
One of my main critiques of Merlin is how he doesn't learn from his mistake with Morgana. He made Morgana feel alone, which prompted her to look into other places for help, leading to Morgause. He made the exact mistake with Mordred in Season 5, which was very hard to watch, especially episode 5 of that season.
He keeps making the same mistakes. He still isn't bold enough with his magic. An idea that would be interesting to explore is what if Gaius died in the S3 finale. Merlin already shows how he knows a lot about medicine, especially in S5, so why not roll with it. If Gaius dies, Merlin should take Gaius' place as a court physician. So many more plot points and stakes can be brought up as a result. It also shows Merlin's maturity as he grows.
Even though Gaius would be dead in this universe, I still wouldn't want Merlin to feel alone with his magic. I deeply respect Lancelot, and I'm a little disappointed how he was mainly used as a plot point for Gwen's and Arthur's relationship. The interactions he has with Merlin in the S4 premier are so on point. They should've used that a little more. I wish Lancelot was there for Merlin and that he didn't die.
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Maybe in S4, Merlin tries to help Morgana and reason with her to show her how Arthur will develop a better and safer world for all people, including those of magic.
Morgana rejects this idea but does listen after a while or so Merlin thinks. She ends up escaping somewhere along S4 and ends up in a Druid camp. The druids will start to help her clear her mind more, and she is starting to become more of the Morgana we once knew. She still distrusts Arthur and Merlin, but to a lesser extent, and she doesn't really hate Gwen really anymore.
Whilst in the Druid camp, she started hearing about this Druid boy who sought more power to make a difference. Later on, this same boy would find Morgana. And of course, that boy is Mordred.
Although it isn't as apparent as Morgause, Mordred, in a way, wants Arthur gone and replaced with someone who knows better. Someone who will make a change on the kingdom. Mordred pities Merlin for believing that Arthur will make peace. Mordred's plan is to become a knight of Camelot and have Arthur trust him. When the time is right, Mordred would assume power of the throne, and he will start taking charge of Camelot. As soon as the new magic policies were put in place, there would be terrible disasters since it would be difficult to manage the amount of new magic that would surround the land. However, Mordred doesn't know that could happen, and he asks Morgana for his help. Morgana, after considering, ends up declining his offer.
We don't get to see Morgana after a while and instead get to see some Mordred and Merlin interactions. This time, Merlin would heavily distrust Mordred at first, but then Mordred grew onto him, and he found himself trusting Mordred.
In the Series Finale, Mordred innacts his plan with a lot of help from other Sorcerer's he already recruited plus an entire Kingdom's army. Aithusa would also appear in this universe. However, she protects Mordred instead of Morgana. Morgana sees a vision of what is going to happen, and she sees the cruelty of people being killed. She goes back to Camelot to do something. She is very much undercover, and she tries to perform a spell that can help Camelot. Unfortunately, said spell helps them at first, but backfires later on. That spell is one of the reasons that would lead to Arthur's inevitable death. As more and more people are being hurt, Merlin has no choice but to sue his powers to protect them. Arthur is undoubtedly upset at first, similarly to how he was in the original last episode, but he forgives Merlin in the end, and one of his last wishes as King is for Morgana to lead the way for people with magic to be accepted in Camelot.
Mordred would be killed, and the rest of his army would be defeated. Morgana would take the role of Queen, and she would be the one who would end up uniting Albion. Merlin would be Court Sorcerer and take an apprentice he would train to be a physician.
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I wrote this up as soon as I thought of it, so I'm sorry if a lot of this doesn't make sense, lol. Who knows, I might change my mind tomorrow and decide that this is actually the worst idea to ever be thought of.
TL:DR - I made up how I would write the story after s2 if I actually had good writing skills. Or someone else can write this, idk.
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ericeffiorg · 9 months
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hey i just saw a reddit comment that said anwar has 0 growth in the show and i am not a huge avid watcher like that so wasn't sure if that was an ignorant comment or not. what do you think?
so i completely get why people think that because the thing with anwar is that you need to pay very close attention to his stories (which during the one time when they happen per season are typically the C story of the episode) to see the growth. his stories are not super well written but the growth is in there - it's just really small (like him! <3)
in s1 he was able to come out to his mum which in itself is huge growth that needs no explanation. and then because of the whole thing with eric he had that moment where he finally complimented someone he didn't like, which was the show's way of showing that anwar was slowly acknowledging that his treatment of eric wasn't right. he didn't end up being mean to eric ever again after that, though he definitely didn't want to be his friend. and he didn't stop being entirely mean, he was just beginning his journey of acknowledging it.
in s2 he learned to trust his boyfriend with something he was extremely insecure and uneducated on, so we saw him grow with someone he loved and learn to let his walls down with another person.
and in s3 he learned how to be a genuine friend to someone he loved, as well as understand his sexuality more.
it's nothing huge, but there is growth. the issue is his existence was there to simply aid ruby's story. like he was less important than tanya and ruthie in s1 lol
and saying that i think the people on reddit don't ever know what show they're watching anyway so i wouldn't listen to them.
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thetaoofbetty · 4 years
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I left twitter, because I get tired of see people fighting about what couple have better kisses ( the 4°17 isnt even so good, the 4°15 either. Just a biased opinion) but the "troll" anons are getting annoying and I don't understand come here to left out their frustration with people that don't deserve it and don't care about their ship. The way that the veggie still in s3 get more hype than the barchies ones (they put 3 ba stills and put a trailer just with ba it's kinda obvious what they did
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Hello lovely! 
I mean, I think the phrase “hit dogs holler” applies here? I don’t keep up with what twitter does, tbh, but I know they’re either trolling because they’re immature and think it’s funny or because they genuinely can’t figure out that enjoying what they love is supposed to be why they’re in fandom. 
But, I’ve been through this before with Star Wars. And those antis were much better at espousing their purity culture nonsense and making it seem like they had the moral highroad when, in the end, all they had was the embarrassing timeline of proving they don’t know how to read or interpret text. I mean, they’re still assholes, don’t get me wrong, they were (and are) very angry and almost violent and that’s...concerning because space wizards aren’t real but whatever, that’s a them problem they need to work on. 
(you know, some people just really don’t get sex as metaphors and have no real understanding of how story telling works and i can’t tell if it’s a cultural echo chamber of minors growing up telling each other that they’re always right or if it’s how they think the world should be catered to them and being vaguely uncomfortable at any given time for any given reason in media means something is Bad™ instead of maybe realizing that they don’t own the spaces they decide they own and not everyone enjoys everything that exists? i don’t know but it all reeks of entitlement) 
They want people to watch to make sure their faves end up together, they haven’t quite gotten the memo (why is media 10 years behind everyone else? i am going to assume a bunch of old white guys behind every decision might have something to do with it) that yeah, drama sells but well written drama sells better. 
Which is why we need younger, fresher, more diverse voices in the writers room and beyond. How much money do they need to lose before someone figures it out? Because, man, they really need to catch up. Also, who even trusts anything Riverdale says or does? Especially when you’ve been used for bait for so long? That’s a rough lesson to ignore, yikes. Also, I still like veggie and feel that ship was underutilized completely. 
I really don’t know why people come here to bother me, I am chilling in my lane. I’m just sitting here, thinking about shoes and marshmallows, writing bughead kissing each other and trying to have a good time. Do they want more people to ship b/archie? If so, their recruitment methods need work. I imagine their behavior even makes multi-shippers shy away from them. Badly worded, condescending messages about how much something I enjoy sucks just reminds me of trumpers and wow, that’s not a group I’d want to be associated with so yeah, here’s to hoping they learn to act more like people in the future.  
Thanks for the ask, doll!💜
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captainfangirlll · 5 years
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SHOW ARYA STARK VS BOOK ARYA STARK
Book Arya: She is frequently compared with Lyanna Stark, Ned said Arya in first book that she rides horses as a northern lady, like Lyanna used to do and that she looks like her and acts like her.
Show Arya: Lyanna and Arya resemblances is never mentioned but the actress who played Lyanna looks like Maisie a Lot
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Show: Arya was in love with Gendry in S2-S3 (according to Maisie Williams) but they didn’t show us signs of this, just the scene when Gendry is shirtless in Harrenhal.
Book: We don’t know if Arya is in love with Gendry in books but she is confused about he feelings for him because she is too young to understand it, but we can read in books how she looks at Gendry in that way:
"She climbed to the roof and peeked down. Gendry was beating out a breastplate. When he worked, nothing existed for him but metal, bellows, fire. The hammer was like part of his arm. She watched the play of muscles in his chest and listened to the steel music he made. He’s strong, she thought.”
And she is jealous about Gendry:
Then maybe I’ll go find that black-haired girl and ring her bell for her.”
“But…”
“I said, go away. M’lady.”
Arya whirled and left him there. A stupid bullheaded bastard boy, that’s all he is. He could ring all the bells he wanted, it was nothing to her.
And later in another chapter he remember him about that:
"My father had honor," she said angrily. "And we weren’t talking to you anyway. Why don't you go back to Stoney Sept and ring that girl's stupid bells?"
Yep she thinked about that a lot apparently
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She also thinks in a romantic way about Gendry. She said in a chapter think about Gendry like that is something Sansa would dream in her songs wich are romantic songs:
..she could ride with Gendry and be an outlaw, like Wenda the White Fawn in the songs. But that was just stupid, like something Sansa might dream
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Show: Arya loves Jon Snow more than anyone but we can only see that in season 1, 5 (when she didn’t throw needle to the water) and little season 8
Book: Arya thinks in Jon every time, he is the one she looks for After her father’s death:
Jon wouldn’t care who I killed or whether I brushed my hair . . . “Jon looks like me, even though he’s bastard-born. He used to muss my hair and call me ‘little sister.’” Arya missed Jon most of all. Just saying his name made her sad.
She would have given anything if Jon had been here to call her “little sister” and muss her hair.
She yearned to see her mother again, and Robb and Bran and Rickon . . . but it was Jon Snow she thought of most. She wished somehow they could come to the Wall before Winterfell, so Jon might muss up her hair and call her “little sister.” She’d tell him, “I missed you,” and he’d say it too at the very same moment, the way they always used to say things together.
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She even compare Gendry to him and that’s why she trust Gendry immediately
“NO!” Arya and Gendry both said, at the exact same instant. Hot Pie quailed a little. Arya gave Gendry a sideways look. He said it with me, like Jon used to do, back in Winterfell. She missed Jon Snow the most of all her brothers.
Show: Arya serves as a cupbearer to Tywin Lannister after he saves her and Gendry, wich is a great change actually in show.
Book: Boltons mens take Harrenhal from Lannister, Lord Roose Bolton arrives to take charge of the castle. Arya, now calls herself "Nymeria", or "Nan" for short, and is named Roose's cupbearer for her role in the freeing of the prisoners. She inadvertently meets Elmar Frey, the squire she would have to marry under Robb's agreement with the Freys, though they remain unknown to each other.
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Show: The Brotherhood finds Arya, Gendry and Hotpie and their plan is let her immediately with her mother and brother.
Book: In books TB takes more time before takes Arya with her family, they even stop in hostals and brothels, and they make Arya wear a dress that’s why Gendry mess with Arya saying her she looks like propped girl and a lady.
Show: In tv show Melissandre captured Gendry first and then The Hound kidnnaped Arya.
Books: In books Arya have a little fight with Gendry and then she runs away from him in that moment The Hound captures Arya and the last thing she heard is Gendry screaming her name.
Show: Arya never saw Catelyn’s body after red wedding, only Robbs.
Book: Arya sees her mom and Robbs bodies after red wedding, but Catelyn’s no as her own, Arya is a warg in books like Brann and she wargs into Nymeria to take out of the river Catelyns body, then Beric Dondarrion finds Catelyn and resurrected her with a kiss.
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Show: In books Arya meets Brienne of Tarth and she have a fight with The Hound for Arya.
Books: Arya never meets Brienne in books.
Show: Arya reunites with Jaquen in the House of black and white
Book: Arya never see Jaqen again, she trains with other faceless man in braavos known as Kindly Man and the Waif, who accept her in.
Show: Arya kills Ser Meryn Trant in braavos, she also pass herself as an oyster saleswoman and trains hard with the waif.
Book: Arya learns to lie from the waif, she also pass her self as “Cat of the canals” a street urchin, to learn secrets and report them to the kindly man. She also begins learning the art of lying from the waif. During this time, she kills a deserter from the Night's Watch named Dareon, and she briefly meets Samwell Tarly, a friend of her half brother Jon Snow, though they do not introduce themselves to each other. After these incidents, she accepts milk meant for "Arya". When she wakes the next morning, she is blind.
Show: Arya gets blind and stay in the street as a homeless girl, she also trains with the waif and is repeatedly abbused and punched by her, she receives her sigth again after she drinks waters from the water well Jaqen gives her.
Book: Arya remains blind and in the service of the House of Black and White in Braavos. The blindness is induced by the milk she drinks every night. She continues to dream through the eyes of her direwolf, Nymeria, but speaks of it to no one. She still struggles with leaving her identity as Arya Stark behind. While she is blind, Arya wears the guise of "Beth", a beggar girl. She wanders the streets of Braavos, begging for money and listening for bits and pieces of information. She becomes better at lying and detecting the lies of others.
Arya receives her sight again after she is able to identify the kindly man and hit him with a stick when he sneaks up on her. It is implied, however, that she does not simply sense his presence (as he assumes) but sees him through the eyes of a cat hiding in the rafters.
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Show: We don’t know what Arya does in her freetime in braavos we only see her training and training.
Books: In books we can know more about Arya, she pass her time warging cats also with the company of braavos courtesans the most seductive woman in Essos, so Arya learns a lot from them, the last chapter we read about her she seduced a man so we start to see Arya’s grow.
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Show: Sansa is the one who marries Ramsay Bolton.
Books: In books is Jeyne Poole the one who marriea Ramsay, but they said all the north the girl is Arya Stark, that’s why Jon is murdered in booka because he break his votes to rescue “Arya”.
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SO
Arya is gonna comeback to Westeros like in the books, the last we know from her is that she killed a man who was not ordered by the god of death so is possible we would see same as the show, the waif trying to kill her, she kills the waif and come back to Westeros.
Arya is very different in books than show, I think we are gonna see an Arya really different than the girl she used to be but not as cold as the show, Arya in books is still a social girl, she also learns a lot with braavos people and talks braavosi.
Theories:
She is gonna meet again Lady Stonehert because she is the one who help in her resurrection, I think at first she is gonna team up with her to kill the freys and also meet Gendry again (bc he is with LS) but then she will have to kill her, because she’s gonna realize she is cruel and only live for revenge (that’s gonna help in her arc about revenge and how bad it is) so she’s gonna save her mom from that misery.
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Shes gonna go to north with the brotherhood and Gendry to look for Jon, after she heard “Arya Stark married Ramsay Bolton”
And I don’t know guys the history in books is so different idk what’s gonna happen, im very sure we are gonna see a romance between Arya and Gendry, a reunion with Lady Stoneheart and she fighting in the long night, I don’t think she kills the Knight King theres also no NK in books, so we are all Jon Snow, we don’t know nothing.
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aeroknot · 7 years
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I agree with you, I think the trust started in leaving on your mind. I mean I know we saw ten butt heads a lot during S1 but I think it was like a "look shit, we don't agree on everything but I've got your back and you've got mine no matter what." And I loved seeing that grow during S1. And even in S2 with the moments we got. I do wish though that we got more conversation with them during S2, especially with the whole lizard/dragon thing. Part 1
Part 2. I love how in 2x01 she found out and she didn’t even care that he didn’t tell her, or that there was no stereotypical “he didn’t trust me that’s why he didn’t tell me” it was just look I need him in my life and I need to save him. But yeah I wish they had more conversation about their feelings and their situation in S2. Hopefully we get that in S3, their whole situation is established and their feelings are revealed. Also, am I the only one still wondering what dolls told doc in 2x01???
I know! I wish people weren’t sleeping so much on my Mulder/Scully comparisons, but they remind me of them. It’s interesting Emily is kind of tweaking the infamous “slow burn” dynamic, perhaps a trope literally christened to television by MSR… but regardless of the romance part, their partnership is just…. CLENCHES FIST the best!! a foundation of partnership and having each other’s backs is honestly my kink I don’t care ultimately if they never move beyond that on screen bc it’s honestly so gratifying to see men and women with those equal roles and mutual respect
you are so right about when she finds out!!! I think it was obvious it maybe knocked the wind out of her a bit, she seemed to deflate at first, but then she went back to Wynonna’ing it up and, like you said, just didn’t care because it didn’t outweigh her feelings and her resolve to get such an important person back into her life. i cannot get over the way she looked at him when they were reunited in the bar scene. and how she was just so nonchalantly -- with a hint of goofily -- into the reveal of his power. they could have dragged that out to make it all angsty and I appreciate they didn’t. though…. it also like… leaves the whole ‘how have they addressed these topics with each other???’ unanswered. 
I don’t know that I’m necessarily heavily yearning for them to have a sit-down more than I’m yearning to just have more answers to those questions. like.. I’m a graduate of Mulder and Scully so the whole ‘let’s outright state our feelings’ isn’t really pivotal to me as long as they keep reinforcing their bond in other ways. but the thing I’m irritated with now is just not seeing those moments lately. like, don’t get me wrong, cuddling BLEW MY EFFING MIND HOLY SH— but.. like… when he get over the pregnancy thing? are they committed or just figuring things out as they go along, living one day at a time? did she kiss doc as a reaction to all the turmoil and joy felt at the same time in that episode regarding the child? and we don’t need explicit conversations about this to learn the answers. but I understand people yearning for it!! I just don’t need it, but I don’t say that to at all try to invalidate what you want to see come up! I think we both want the same thing really, some answers, I guess I just go caught up in discussing the preferences for HOW we get those answers xD
NO YOU’RE NOT THE ONLY ONE right before you messaged me this I was literally on my best friend’s couch watching that episode with her and I said “it still drives me crazy that we don’t know what he asked doc to tell her” and my friend said, “you know what he asked doc to tell her” all sly and…. well yeah MAYBE but that IS an answer I do want explicitly yelled in my face xD
sorry this is………. so long it’s unfortunate sometimes I’m such a wordy birdy 
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