#i've seen a lot of their fans on twitter and instagram complain

[magpie-murder]

Hello. I hope you don't mind I use your askbox to vent, but poeple calling MCU Loki "God of Stories" is really pissing me off. His official title is God Loki and mistagging him only clogs the tag for actual God(dess) of Stories Loki from the comics.

I don't know if poeple mistag because they think it's going to give them more engagement (hello, this is Tumblr, not Twitter or Instagram), but this practice is both extremely annoying and counterproductive. Poeple who use the Enchantricks tags don't want to see Loki/Sylvie content, and Loki/Sylvie shippers have their own tags so mistagging is absolutely useless and only brings negative engagement. Same goes for every characters who get mistagged. Sylvie fans don't call her "Lady Loki", I don't think a single B-15 fan is going to call her Verity in the long term (we all have our HC names for her anyways ^^), etc...

I really wish poeple understood that. I've only seen anti-series fans complain about that, but as a fan of both the series and the comics, when I go to the God of the Stories time, it's to look at pictures of AoA Loki. Mistagging is just like putting a mess on the library shelves, it is lazy and serves no other purpose than annoy the next user.

yes, holy shit, i hate it. i'm genuinely leaving the fandom over this, ditching this blog and making a new one and everything. the only thing that stuff like this does is demoralize people.

our discord server is trying our best to implement a new comic loki tagging system because of this crosstagging problem. not a lot of people are using it yet, but these are the tags we're trying to get people to use in addition to normal comic book tags (it would help a TON if people went back and added these to their old 616)

#the echo of a scream — kid loki (comics only)

#moon queen and magic theatre — god(dess) of stories loki (comics only)

#the magpie who whispers — ikol/agent loki (comics only)

#human lie detector. the best and only friend — verity willis (comics only)

#váli.txt #ask and ye shall be answered #the echo of a scream #the magpie who whispers #moon queen and magic theatre #human lie detector. the best and only friend #loki agent of asgard #loki aoa #kid loki #god of stories #loki god of stories #god of stories loki #verity willis #loki comics #aoa loki #loki

[ourflagmeansgayrights]

i'm cry laughing some people on twitter are now saying "izzy bashing" needs to be tagged in fics. how did these people ever survive watching this show where izzy is the CANON ANTAGONIST i'll never know

benefit of the doubt but i think most of them have gotten to this point gradually. when they first watched the show they were not attached to izzy the way they are now. i know for a lot of people it was blorbo at first sight with izzy but i've also seen izzy enjoyers say they didn't like him at first, and then fandom made them care about him.

like i'm pretty sure for a lot of ppl it started off with isolating themselves from ppl who made posts that they didnt like, like ppl who criticized ofmd for being based on two real people with direct connections to actual real-world slave trade (which is an incredibly valid thing to criticize abt ofmd).

another one that i think funneled a lot of fans towards being so delusionally attached to izzy was people pointing out or complaining about the disproportionate amount of fan content for izzy compared to prominent characters of color—which is a consistent issue in fandom no matter what the media, and is also a very easy one for people to be uncomfortable with whenever they see it get pointed out. people venting that "fans care too much abt this white man" often make fans who care abt that white man very defensive right off the bat, and then rather than engage with why they feel defensive or question if maybe their enjoyment of this character is fueled by implicit bias (which it might not be, to be clear! im not saying—and i have never said—that everyone who enjoyes izzy likes him for racist reasons), they stop listening to the conversation abt white favoritism and continue blorboposting as much as they want. it's incredibly easy for fans to brush off this convo as "just starting drama" and avoid the topic altogether because "fandom is for fun!" and they dont want to think abt difficult topics like racism and implicit bias, they just want to enjoy their blorbos in peace.

so they kept narrowing the takes they were seeing until they were in an echo chamber that kept moving more and more towards complete woobification of izzy hands. these people are now looking at the show entirely through izzy's pov, making posts abt how sad it is that none of the other characters are ever nice to him, how frustrating the show is from his perspective, how it feels to be deeply in love with someone who doesn't love you back. they've stared at gifs of con's micro-expressions and read angsty fanfiction and looked at endless izzy fanart and their entire ofmd fandom experience revolves around empathizing with this one character even tho the show itself continually makes him the butt of the joke.

at this point, telling these people to rewatch the show doesn't even matter. they've spent so much time over-analyzing every single one of izzy's scenes to the point where the emotional responses they get from these scenes are not the emotional responses anyone would have watching the show for the first time. they've warped the entire first season to fit their version of the show and are forgetting how often the show itself bashes izzy.

and the icing on the cake is the trolling. there's like, one or two people on here who go around sending anon hate and leaving nasty comments on instagram posts and harassing people on twitter for... like, i would say "for liking izzy" or even "for saying positive things about izzy" but like. i've gotten these messages, and the most sympathetic i've ever been to izzy was the post i made like "maybe he's mean bc he has chronic IBS. i'd actually understand him more if that were the case." so when i get these messages it's easier for me to just laugh them off bc it's so obviously just someone trying to make me upset, but people who do care about izzy (a lot of them being the same people who avoided engaging with the "why does fandom care so much abt white characters" convo) get these absolutely horrible messages about how they deserve to get hate crimed and they should kill themselves. and these fans who didn't want to even see vaguely negative posts abt izzy bc they just want to enjoy fandom in peace are now like "im targeted for just liking a character!"

so that's how we get to people saying that "izzy bashing" needs to be tagged. never mind that their definition of "bashing" almost certainly includes things that are not bashing but are just things that contradict the way they headcannnon him.

#ask #anon #mine #txt #og #izzy critical #izzy hands #ofmd fandom crit #if this post is in the izcourse tag no it isnt u just dont know how to use tumblr #obligatory Not All Izzy Fans disclaimer #also btw in case anyone tries to come at me with “it's stupid to tell people to pay attention to different characters”: #noticing the disappointing trend of fandom to fixate on white side characters ≠ telling people to stop making izzy content #im not telling individual izzy hands enjoyers to stop paying attention to izzy. there are a lot of reasons why ppl might like izzy #if i interact w someone whose ofmd contribution is primarily pro-izzy my thought is “oh they like antagonists” #not “oh they don't care about characters of color bc they're racist” ok im not gonna jump there without a reason #but on a fandom-wide scale this is a Trend that has happened over and over again in fandom after fandom after fandom #like We Live In A Society bro we can't just pretend white men are always the faves in fandoms just by coincidence #but also tbh if you think im saying that You Personally need to make content for characters of color? and you're getting MAD at me for it?? #then ur probs not someone i want making content for those characters lmao. u keep izzyposting to ur heart's content <3 have fun bestie

[fangeek-girl]

i remember reading tweets and shit when obi-wan kenobi was still airing and among all the racist nonsense abt moses having the audacity to be black and a woman with a lightsaber in a star wars show, dudes were complaining abt how reva was just being a “whiny bitch” and going on to explain how it was acceptable and “reasonable” when anakin did it but NOT her.

fuck her trauma and anger! and going beyond that just BEGGING to see a black inquisitor woman humiliated? it was a mess. i felt for moses and reva.

I'm so glad I don't have Twitter/X and have stopped looking at reels on Instagram. These places are fostering so much hate.

The level of misogynoir we've been seeing from fanboys is disappointing, but unfortunately not surprising. They wanted a movie about Obi-Wan and Vader fighting. They hated the idea of a show from the get go and they've been trying to find every reason to complain about it since. I've seen them rage about Leia, about Luke seeing a lightsaber (nevermind that this was such a traumatic experience his mind probably wiped it all out after) and meeting Obi-Wan, about the Path, about the First Inquisitor's look (as if that kind of prosthetic could hold in action sequences), etc.

They hate any kind of diversity and inclusion because to them Star Wars is pretty coloured swords and starships and a cool villain in a mask. Unfortunately for them, the women who have been brought on recently to create new Star Wars cinematic content (not talking about KK here) seem to care more about good stories than the fan reaction.

I feel terrible for Moses (just like I felt terrible for Kelly Marie Tran, but that has as much to do with how the movies treated the character as how the fans treated the actress). I hope that won't stop Deborah Chow from coming back with more material for Reva (I'm not sure anybody else could give her character the story she deserves), or for the comics/novels creators from writing about her.

Reva deserves a whole show, a comics run and/or a novel dedicated to her. She's a force of nature, and her story shines light on one of the few things we still know so little of (at least in canon). The Inquisitors have been used a lot in the decades between the prequels and the original trilogy, but we don't get much information on their path to becoming Inquisitors. Reva not only gave us that, she was also morally gray. Her entire life is dedicated to getting revenge on the guy who's essentially her boss now. There's so much to explore there!

Anyways, sorry this got so long. I am very defensive of Reva/Moses and I hate the fanboys with a passion 😅 Thank you for the anon!

#anon ask #sorry for rambling #Reva deserves better #Reva Sevander #fuck the fanboys #Star Wars

[purrincess-chat]

I really like what you said about the Love Square dynamic and the comments in the fandom about how people are upset that their side of the square is not canonical in a romantic relationship. I especially liked the words that after the reveal it will be a new ship with its own unique dynamics created from all LS sides. But there are things I worry about after the reveal.

I hate these arguments about which side is better and I fear that even after the reveal, these arguments will get worse. There will be people who will complain about their dynamic after the reveal because it doesn't look enough like their favorite side of LS pre-reveal dynamic, while on the other hand there will be people who will claim that this dynamic is completely taken from their beloved side of the LS. Like, recently I've seen salty Ladynoir's shippers claiming that the post-reveal dynamic will be entirely pre-reveal Ladynoir.

And their statements stand in stark contrast to the show itself, as it teaches Marinette and Adrien to embrace their civilian and superhero identities as one, not to give up parts of their personalities to fulfill their dreams of their romantic dynamic.

First off, that last bit is the best take I've seen in a while, so thank you for that.

Because you're absolutely right. Their arguments are not rooted in canon. People in this fandom have never truly grasped the full concept of the love square. Ever since s1 there has always been this divide among fans of the show. I think other franchises like Twilight or THG series set this weird precedent of dividing people into "teams" for their favorite ships, even though one of them is bound to win out in the end, but the problem with doing that with ML and the love square is it doesn't work. The love square is so appealing because it subverts the typical love triangle because they're the same two people sliced 4 ways because of secret identities. Which is super great and fun and refreshing. But the problem is, people in this fandom have never quite fully grasped that concept, and people fell into the same pitfalls by treating each side as its own entity rather than a part of a whole. It's why MC stans for the longest time bolstered the "true selves" argument because there was a mental disconnect between the sides. Yes, there are unique dynamics to each one, but there is also an incredible amount of overlap because, ya know, they're the same people. But the issue has always been that people put the square in such rigid boxes and fail to understand why the love square is so great. It reminds me of Uncle Iroh's speech about the 4 nations and how you should pull wisdom from all of them. It's the same thing here. There is nuance to every side, but at the end of the day, the love square isn't 4 separate ships, it's one ship with 4 parts working toward a collective whole.

That's why I shake my head at a lot of posts I see around the fandom because people are upset over their own lack of understanding. I've seen it here, on twitter, on Instagram, on tiktok. "The love square is dead because Adrinette is canon" "rip LadyNoir marichat and ladrien" "I've wasted 7 years waiting for Ladybug and Chat noir to get together and it's Adrien and Marinette instead" Like, babes I have some news for you 😂😂 And I'm not saying people have to love every decision canon makes, I know I don't, but the amount of tantrums I've seen people throwing over the flagship of the show getting together is mindboggling. I made a joke to some friends in private about how prior to Elation, MC stans were the most obnoxious group of LS shippers, but truthfully I haven't heard a peep from them since after Elation aired, and it seems LN stans have moved up in their place. I didn't have LN stans becoming the new obnoxious MC stans that ruin the ship for everyone else on my bingo card last year, but here we are. And it's not all of them, just a loud minority I feel. But the annoying thing about loud minorities is that they're, well, loud.

To me, my intrigue with the love square has always been in blending the dynamics between the sides, even in pre reveal. Having a dash of LadyNoir banter and puns in Adrinette, having the sweet and gentle side of Adrien coming out in Chat Noir. They're the same two people, so all of that is inside them all the time. They're both an amalgamation of their two egos, and canon has never shied away from that. That was a huge point of Kuro Neko for Adrien. He's not one or the other, he's both. For Marinette I think specifically of Pretension when she confidently tells Gabriel to go fuck himself then goes outside and has a panic attack. She is both the confident superheroine who helps others and the anxious young girl trying to figure life out just like Adrien is both a goofy furry that makes bad jokes and a gentle and respectful boy who tries to see the best in other people. Canon has been screaming that at us, but some people just are not paying attention.

To assert that they will only be a representation of one dynamic post reveal is just misguided in my opinion. It stems from the lack of understanding that they are both Ladybug/Chat Noir and Marinette/Adrien. I firmly believe the post reveal dynamic will be a blend like I was talking about. Adrinette will confidently flirt. LadyNoir will have deep conversations about life that they never could before. MariChat will makeout on the rooftops. Ladrien will kick each others butt at video games. They'll be silly and sweet. They'll be serious and brave. Each side's development will shape the new dynamic, and I think that new dynamic will have elements we haven't seen yet but also a lot of the elements we've grown to love. It's not going to be just one side prevailing because that has never been the love square. Truthfully, I think a lot of people in the fandom are just too angry to see that right now. A lot of their posts are reactionary and ranty and angry, and the way I see it, those people will either calm down eventually or leave the fandom. Get over it or die angry, as I say. I'm not too overly worried about fandom after this season because I know a huge chunk of people aren't going to stick around. But maybe that's what this fandom needs. Salt and negativity are so easy to come by, and anyone who dares post anything nice or positive are mocked and scorned. The amount of people that have either sent me asks or messaged me privately about being scared to post about liking pre reveal Adrinette openly for fear of LN stans writing posts calling them stupid or blocking them is sad. But that's what our fandom has come to.

So, yeah, I can't say I'll be sad if the aggressive salters leave bc they're mad about pre reveal canon Adrinette. No one should be afraid to post about liking canon for fear of being ostracized. That's incredibly fucked up, and it makes the fandom worse. So, ya know what? I'm happy to take the brunt of it for other people. Salters can vague post about me all they want, but I'm not the one making people feel unwelcome for just trying to have a good time. My ask box is always open if people want to talk about how much they love Adrinette or canon or anything they're not comfortable posting on their own blogs. Fandom is supposed to be fun, so I'm here if anyone wants to just enjoy things. And I'm sorry to anyone who's been made too uncomfortable by salters to enjoy things openly. You guys don't deserve that.

#asks #cat replies #ml speculation #ml pretension #ml fandom salt #s5 discourse

[buddha-in-disguise]

This is how it's done

Episode 5.15 at last.

While the emphasis has been on Nia's story in this episode, the synopsis made it clear Alex, Kelly and J'onn had a secondary storyline running as well. So again we were eager to watch knowing they were finally getting more than a token few minutes together.

Did it deliver?

Oh hell yes.

You just have to look on Twitter to see the praise being heaped on it by fans.

But first let's get the elephant in the room out of the way. William.

The opening sequence as Kara is fighting with Nia, and Nia has to be the one reminding Kara she has a date? Already covered by me and others, but to reiterate: that does not give a vibe of someone excited to be going on a first date. You can't even use the excuse of her mind was on the fight, because so was Nia's.

As to Kara at her apartment with Alex prior to the date?

Those words, "Cancel it for me."

Lets say (for arguments sake) it is nerves again speaking. Maybe it is, but that she is even having those thoughts? That she completely forgot about the 1st date, and needed reminding? If Kara can't get invested in the date, how are the audience expected to become invested?

As for the date itself. Kara arrives.... having been told by Alex to wear the blue top because .... well reasons .... and she is wearing the purple? So, not wanting to go with the best look then?

I didn't mind the date per se, although I did wonder if Kara was simply trying to not show pool skills, because I can't believe for a second, with Alex as a sister, and the control Kara now has on her powers (worry over lack of control would be the only other reason for her hesitation that I can think of), Kara hasn't been pulled into playing many times.

Did I get a date vibe? No. I felt more bonding yes (like why has it taken until now to even vaguely have that much), but date? Nope. Still not feeling it. If any of the above was a one off instance, you could shrug it off. But all of them? Sorry but as I say, if Kara isn't that invested in a first date, then we can't be expected to be as invested. However, that isn't to say that William annoyed me. In truth having him more on the sidelines was a relief as it finally allowed others to get some much needed screen time.

The Nia storyline.

This is obviously one extremely close to me, as my husband is transgender, and we have other family who are also transgender.

Nicole's input was definitely felt. Some of the lines she spoke were ones we have said ourselves almost word for word.

This is a topic that is one I've been extremely vocal about, and one in particular I have spoken about (in the William and Kara at CatCo scene) is the figures for transgender people killed in the last year alone in the USA, but more importantly that this number is likely not a true representation as many who die are misgendered after death.

It was so important to show just how bad for the transgender community it is. And no, it wouldn't necessarily be a fact Kara would know. Even those in the LGBTQ community aren't always aware of these figures. As for William being the one stating the figures back to Kara, again in the context I had no qualms about it. In fact having a CIS straight man write the piece and be a supportive ally is an important message in it's own right. I was worried that wouldn't come across, but I felt it did.

If ever there was a line that spoke volumes in this weeks Supergirl episode it was this:

"They want us to be invisible because of their own fears, they want to erase us so...... we need to shine even brighter." - Nia Nal

And shine Nicole Maines (and Roxy Wood, because the additional line about being a Black transgender woman - take my heart, stomp over it, then expect me to function), did. Both deserve so much praise on the way they delivered their performances.

I genuinely cried at some of this weeks episode, because the experiences have been ones we have faced as a transgender household. Being white does afford us a privilege that Black transgender people (especially the women) don't have. But as I say, it has been something I've been vocal about for a long time.

Lastly Kara and Nia on the balcony. Holy mother of god (or goddess), tears. Again. Nicole and Melissa once again were so good it felt like a punch to the gut. Kara wiping that tear off Nia's cheek. Big ugly sobbing from me. Gah! Just ....

Now Alex and Kelly. While I'm still craving a nice intimate atmosphere at home with them, having had so little of Dansen (and Kelly) it was a relief that for once Kelly wasn't given diminished screentime. Not only that, she was instrumental in helping Alex navigate through the VR world.

Alex having that PTSD flashback to being in the tank. Whoa, finally acknowledging it affected her and obviously still does. I loved how Kelly is so good at helping Alex maintain her equilibrium. You could tell it wasn't just because of her training or profession, but as a girlfriend who knows and understands how to communicate to Alex in that moment of stress, much like Alex was able to realise Malefic was manifesting as Kelly in the earlier part of the season, simply because she knew her girlfriend well enough.

Watching Alex train to get used to the Martian weapon, felt very reminiscent of S1 where Alex was training Kara early on. It was good to see her off balance for once in her training, as she has always shown a confidence in her ability until now. For those who complain she brought up wanting to be back at the DEO, as someone who has heavy military presence in our family (for at least 4 generations on my maternal side), I can safely say, going from military (and remember the DEO is recognised and spoken about in canon as being a military operation), and suddenly and unexpectedly thrown back into civilian life is one heck of an adjustment. It's an adjustment for most even when they know it's coming. To be so abrupt, so unexpected? Alex is going to want that structure back, and have that support around her. It is absolutely not unrealistic for her to feel this way or to talk about it. I would've been more surprised if she hadn't.

"And this is my gun."

Alex giving no crap. The whole rescue sequence was a joy to watch.

If I had a complaint, as I mentioned, I would've loved just a moment of real quiet intimacy between Kelly and Alex. We've barely seen anything of that sort. I hope we get something next episode (which also looks amazing from the trailer).

I could go through the episode and pick up so many times on how good it was. It was so much, I know I will have forgotten something I wanted to say. But I'm exhausted (almost no sleep will do that to you, damn being in the UK and these stupid o'clock viewing times), and it was so much to unpack.

Brainy, was barely in the episode but damn, so lovely (& heartbreaking) to see him give the information to the NCPD to help against transphobic attacks.

Onto a side plot, but finally we have more about Leviathan.

Leviathan have those bodies suspended.

What if William dies in 5.19 and becomes one of those suspended bodies for 5.20 or was supposed to, as Nicole mentioned on her Instagram story they still had scenes to film, and a couple were pretty amazing? With Staz back, would it have involved him, possibly as a sleeper agent? I've touted this idea before. While I would prefer that a MOC isn't cast into being a bad guy again, or killed off, I would more than happily see him simply go back to London and The Times. But I guess we wait to see what happens there.

But if, like Russell in 5a, he becomes an unwitting agent of Leviathan & a bad guy, cue fight scene, possibly in a VR setting? Maybe? Who knows.

Last but by no means least - they killed off Jeremiah. Since we're not entirely sure if Cadmus operated in the same way on Earth Prime as they did on Earth 38, we don't yet know the circumstances behind his death.

Will we get more explanation about it? Honestly I'm not overly bothered unless it helps serve a current storyline. Merely because episode numbers are running out, and it does at least bring us closure on his character one way or another. Something a lot of us have questioned for so long now.

As for complaints, the only ones expressing any real disappointment have been fans who have either regularly attacked other fans (especially those of in the SC or Dansen fandoms), or the outright transphobic users (I won't call them fans), who as the episode makes clear, are everywhere. The transphobes come out in force everytime with Nicole, so it isn't a surprise to see them again. As Nia says, it what transgender people face on a daily basis.

Plus with no Lena in the episode, it helps show that fans didn't need a Lena/Kara centric episode for this to garner such positive reactions, particularly from the LGBTQ fans. In some ways, as many have been saying (yes even SC fans), this Lena drama has long since gone by its sell by date and not having Lena once more stuck in her laboratory wasn't missed. And god, I say this as a huge Lena fan. I still want her on screen of course, but we need progression on what is happening with her. Both Lex and Lena have felt stale of late, and while I know it changes as we get into the last few episodes, I can truly say neither was missed this time. And before anyone jumps in, no this isn't bashing SC (I still ship both Dansen and SC, as well as Brainia), or saying SC shouldn't happen, or Lena is evil, or not needed. I don't think that at all. I merely am getting tired of a merry-go-round on Lena in her laboratory that we've had of late, & the only interaction has been with Lex. Time to break her out of that cell!

I don’t know what they were putting in the water in Vancouver when they did the Batwoman and Supergirl episodes this week, but they both had me simultaneously laughing & crying! It looked ugly for a minute there.

Both were outstanding episodes.

As much as I've had my criticism over some of this season, when Supergirl get it right like they did here, they soar! This was one of my top episodes for the entire series.

And despite all the news in the world right now, Supergirl trended on Twitter again.

Gif courtesy of @ Daily_danvers on Twitter.

#supergirl #lgbtq #kara danvers #chyler leigh #katie mcgrath #alex danvers #azie tesfai #nicole maines #kelly olsen #nia nal #jesse rath #j’onn j’onzz #jon cryer #david harewood #lena luthor #melissa benoist #representation matters #transgender hero #transgender #trans woman #trans man #trans pride