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#i would quite literally die for Miles and Hobie
sunshine-in-the-grave · 11 months
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Have I watch atsv yet - no
Am I emotionally invested in every single thing that happens - yes
Did I almost cry learning about punkflower - also yes
Do I want Prowler Miles and Miles to be brothers - yes again
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buckysmith · 11 months
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How they met you
Spiderverse
Includes: Miguel O’Hara, Jessica Drew, Hobie Brown, Miles Morales, Peter B Parker
Let me know if I have to put a warning
Reading is on your own. Not proof read
Miguel O’Hara:
- after destroying an entire universe to live a life that was not his, he forbade himself to ever open his heart again.
- no matter if it was for love or friendship
- he was afraid to lose everything again
- to see again how the people around him not only die but dissolve into nothing
- it seemed like he was cursed and had no right to happiness or better an Happy End
- he met you for the first time when he followed an anomaly
- into a world where there was no Spider-Man, no Iron Man, no Captain America.
- although he only found that out later, because before that he literally met you in person first
- the villain, who didn't belong in your universe, managed to give him a punch which threw him right through your window
- and to your sorrow, his body collided with yours, even if he tried to hurt you as little as possible he still knocked you both into the next wall/ground
-your eyes met as he got up from you
- you could not see his eyes, but he saw yours crystal clear
- something in your eyes reflected trust, care and security
- it was as if he had met you before, as if you were no stranger to him
- he didn't have much time, so he averted his eyes and went back to doing his job.
- It wasn't long before the bad guy disappeared through a portal and Miguel disappeared as well.
- but he couldn't get you out of his mind and one day the portal to your world opened again....
Peter B Parker:
- it was a typical cliché how you two met for the first time
- he had run full force into you in the New York rush, knocking your drink out of your hand and dousing you with it
- you looked like a wet poodle
- and as if that wasn't bad enough, you also had an important appointment that day
- and of course you didn't have time to go home and change your clothes
- to say you were pissed was an understatement
- especially since that joker in front of you started making jokes to lighten the mood.
- Spoiler: it didn't work
- so you just grumbled, thought your piece and continued on your way to the next store to buy new clothes
- and they say you always meet twice in life
- you wish you never saw that grinning idiot again in your life
- yeah, you thought wrong.
- but the second time was just as shitty as the first time
- because this time you walked too close to the road and when a car drove through the puddle you literally got showered with that dirty water
- the driver stopped only a few feet later, backed up and when the window went down you were greeted with the same grin as the first time
- to say it legally, you thought about how you would look in orange...
Jessica Drew
- You were on the way when you saw her for the first time
- it was already quite late and actually you wanted to be at home since 6 pm and it was near 12 pm and to your dismay you had to walk through a not so good area
- you saw her putting bags out of her car, probably she had just been shopping
- and she was pregnant.
- Hof did you know?
- her belly was hard to miss…
- you thought nothing of it and kept on walking
- the hood pulled low over your face to look dominant you kept walking until you heard several voices and a thump
- you turned around, saw how the men had knocked the bags out of her hand and were harassing her
- you wanted to look away and ignore it, but she was in danger and you couldn't accept that for the life of you, so you walked to her with quick steps
- you smiled at her while you walked between the men and hugged her
- you started telling lies that you were looking for her, that Josh and Luke were already waiting for you because they were really hungry after their shift at the station and looked at the men questioningly after that
- you looked at her and then asked how she knew those men
- with the information that she was now no longer alone and potentially two policemen were waiting for her, they left
- she thanked you and wished you a nice evening after she gave you her number
- if she hadn't seen you coming towards her, she would have dispatched the men with ease.
- but to see someone without superpowers put himself in danger impressed her
- from that day on you had Spider-Woman on your side
Spider-Punk Hobie Brown
- who would have thought that there were more universes
- sure you had it in class and always hoped there was a way to travel to them but your common sense knew that was impossible
- well until the time you fell through a portal that took you out of your universe and brought a villain into yours
- the pain you had until you were found was unbearable
- but fortunately for you, you were quickly found
- when you heard a voice saying you did not belong here and tying something around your arm was quiet and dark
- when you looked up you could hardly believe your eyes, he looked so, so animated and yet so real
- he personally brought you back to your world
- from that day on, you began to learn more about multiverses
- and from that day you had a new friend from another universe
Miles Morales:
- you wanted to do something illegal for the first time
- Spray graffiti to be more precise
- but who would have thought that you would run into Spider-Man of all people
- there was an awkward silence between you while he looked at you and you at him
- he had caught you red-handed, shortly after the first spraying attempts
- you were uncomfortable and you reached for your bag to leave, but he stole your notebook out of your hand to look at your drawings
- you expected anything, but not to get art lessons from Spider-Man
- you came every week on the same day at the same time to the point where you had met for the first time
- and he was there every time
- waiting to see you again to share his passion.
- who would have thought that the old subway station could give him not only superpowers but new friends as well
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{THIS IS A RANT} - Back at it again with the
ALL MY HOBIES HATE PETER B.
(Not a typo)
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Another rant where I talk about hating Peter B on every level in which my soul manifests
[Stop talking about if your parenting is good so help me fucking god this has nothing to do with you and lives are at stake]
The reason I find Miguel easier to defend than Peter B is because Miguel actually has actions to speculation about in the story.
Peter spent that whole movie talking about his baby, standing completely stationary while witnessing child abuse twice (he didn't nothing when Gwen was sent home) and then go home and talk about how he's sad cause he's not a good mentor and might not be 'good at this'
Like sir who the hell cares what youre good at A teenage girl just became homeless and Miles is being hunted by hundreds of adults
Can you give us more than 'I'm bad at this mentor stuff 😭😭😭'
Put MayDay in the crib and go get Gwen.
Or at the very least tell MJ. Tell MJ that the kid that inspired you to have MayDay is in mortal danger. Tell MJ that the reason you think you're a bad mentor is because MILES JUST GOT HIS ASS BEAT
Why is his thought after ALL THAT about himself abd only HIMSELF? And how he might be a bad mentor
Like yes, you are now that we've realized that glaring fact can you like.... Do something
ALSO YOU HAVEN'T SEEN MILES IN OVER A YEAR WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT THAT
'you don't know if he was going to go get gw-'
Exactly. Cause all he did was talk about himself.
'what if the society was supporting them financially-'
if you see your boss assault a child you should quit even if you make a million a month
'he ended up joining the team anyway'
Gwen, the teenager, the homeless teenager, shouldn't be the one coming to Peter's rescue right now it should be the other way around.
The only reason he joined at the end was because Hobie and Gwen made it super convenient for them.
Had Hobie not left Gwen the watch - and Gwen hadn't showed up -
We are given NO PROOF whatsoever that Peter would've joined them.
No verbal indication or anything.
We have no idea how long Peter would've stayed on Miguel's side had Gwen not approached him.
LITERALLY all Peter did this movie was show Miles baby pictures, tell him he has to let his dad die, accidentally get him caught because he's too stupid to turn off his TRACKING watch , watch Miles get his ass beat, then watch Gwen get her ass beat, then go home and talk about himself.
At least Miguel is having an emotional arc meanwhile Peter shows the emotional range of a bad day at the office despite the fact people he knows and cares about have been hurt in front of him by someone he knows and cares about.
And people still defend him.
HE DID NOTHING. THERE'S NOTHING TO DEFEND BUT HIS INACTION
I feel like so many people excuse his inaction and failure to 'he means well' - obviously not cause when you mean well you do well and he ain't do shit.
"What was he supposed to do?"
At the very least express concern of some sort about the two missing children in his life??
Put MayDay down and try to see if you can find Gwen?
At the very least mention the fact that his boss went apeshit - or Hell, talk about ANYTHING besides himself.
I don't know how people can see that and be like yeah he's cool. This is a competent man who cares about these kids
Like.... If you care and do nothing and make them do literally everything and help them none to the point you're actively leading danger to them because you can't think ahead all while clapping from the sidelines then who the fuck cares what you care about
You don't care enough to do something. So why would I care you're a bad mentor???????
At least Miguel is doing something and we can look deeper into his emotional arc and story and motive
Peter B gives literally nothing. Nothing. Contributes nothing to no one through the whole movie. Doesn't even do a cool Spidey move or anything. Jokes dry as hell -
FUCK I'm so salty why did the write him like a plank of wood why am I supposed to be okay with his WHY WHY WHY
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WANT ME TO CLAP AND SHIT MEANWHILE I'M LOOKING AT HIM LIKE
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What can he do that Noir, Pavitr, and Hobie can't? Like.... They can do everything he can???? With extra abilities,??? PENI HAS A MECH?? WHAT IS HE ADDING WHAT IS HE BRINGING WHAT IS HE SERVING
NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING
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Anyway if you made it this far he's a master list of all my posts where I talk about why a Peter is a horribly borderline irredeemable character.
Peter watching as Gwen is put in the machine, and says nothing besides a joke to defend her, before going home to talk about himself
Hobie doesn't like Peter so neither do I
Why I believe Peter purposely ratted Miles out - If Peter didn't know he was being tracked, why would she speak out loud and give herself away. She didn't. I believe Peter asked her to track them and she responded out loud not knowing Miles was right there.
Why even if he didn't rat Miles out, that's arguably worse - How do you forget the obvious tracker watch is obvious tracking you?
UHH SO YEAH FUCK PETER B ALL MY HOBIES HATE PETER B
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calculatorguitar · 1 year
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so I just watched across the spider-verse for the second time (woohoo!) and I would just like to list some things that I noticed/loved about this movie!
SPOILERS!!!! 
- During the gorgeously animated Spot sequence (the first one in black and white), when the Spot is explaining to Miles that his spider came from univere 42, we can see a kid with two braids in a classroom. It’s very likely that this is the Miles we saw later on in the movie.
- Gwen’s whole world! ugh it’s just visually stunning! The way the background also factors i the emotions at play quite literally reduced me to tears. Muah muah chef’s kiss!
- I’ve seen a lot of people talking about how Miguel is different from other spider-people and I would jus like to add my two cents. Miguel IS Spider-man, but he became him in such a different way to the others. This is why he basically has to inject the spider venom (?) into himself. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t have the spider sense either? In the scene where he, Gwen and Jess are fighting against the Leonardo Da Vinci Vulture, Miguel is just standing there, preaching to Gwen, while the Vulture is LITERALLY STANDING RIGHT THERE??? RIGHT BEHIND HIM??? Gwen just... doesn’t alert him about it and instead makes it a quippy joke, but it seems to me like he either doesn’t have a spider sense (a pretty significant part of being a spider-person) or it just decided not to work at that moment. Also interesting about Miguel is that his trauma has skewed his view so much that he is barely even recognisable as a Spider-man anymore. For example: he makes a giant mistake resulting in a whole universe being wiped out. Teenager unknowingly makes a mistake that could have the same result if not handled correctly. Now. How would your average run-of-the-mill Spider-man handle this? You know how he would NOT usually handle it? By BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF SAID TEENAGER AT MULTIPLE DIFFERENT POINTS IN TIME. Miguel also genuinely believes that there’s a certain structure to being Spider-man. There’s certain trauma-checkpoints you have to hit in order to be Spider-man. That’s... I don’t even know what to say except that that’s really messed up. The scene where he just CAGES Miles, presumably to wait there until his dad died? That’s not how you should go about any of this!!! I mean I shouldn’t even have to say that. It’s HOW you wear the mask that matters. 
- Okay enough about Miguel (didn’t know I had that much to say about him tbh). The characters in this movie were extremely strong! The ones we got to meet all had a clear, discernible personalities. I am definitely not immunce to the comic relief characters and I have gained new favourite characters in Hobie and Pavitr (like p much everyone else lol)
- Miles. Miles I’m so. Wow. He’s not eve real but I’m so proud of him. I nearly bawled when he tried to “come out” as Spider-man, while I had already figured out that he was in the wrong universe. Just. God. This poor boy. He was lierally going to study quantum physics so he could see his friends again only to find out that they had the chance to do exactly that this whole time and just chose not to. It was a gutpunch when it was revealed they knew that his dad was going to die this whole time. My heart was audibly beating for him the entire last 50 minutes of the movie, that’s how anxious it all made me.
I have so much more to say about all of it, but this post is already the longest I’ve ever made so I’m just gonna cut it short for now. I would love to hear all of your thoughts on this! This is just what I got from the movie, but I’m sire I could have misinterpreted some thing, so please do tell me what you all think!
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miguelswifey04 · 11 months
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𝐩𝐞𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐛. 𝐱 𝐟𝐞𝐦!𝐛𝐚𝐛𝐲𝐬𝐢𝐭𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫
wanted to put that out there that MJ doesn’t exist so it would be him as a single dad with mayday! if you don’t dig it, then don’t interact.
miles had recommended peter b! that you were a good babysitter and was looking for a part-time job. peter was very excited to hire you because he really needed someone to look after his girl despite the fact he takes mayday quite literally on every mission. he knows the risks that each mission imposed so when he met you he was very happy. you both hit off on the spot!
you were a broke college student so knowing that you were getting paid by him and (with the help of miguel LOL) you happily did you job.
mayday loves you!! in a way you both developed an unbreakable bond. she’s always happily clinging on to you and she feels very much safe in your care. peter marvels at the sight every time you hold her daughter in your arms lovingly. he can’t help imagine what it would be like if you would potentially be a mother for her.
since you’re a few years younger than peter like 3-4, you also seem to be some sort of mother figure for miles at times when he’s away from his parents. peter and you are always guiding miles in the right path, and y’all hangout as if y’all are one big family.
when you are at home resting in your apartment, peter swoops in with mayday in his arms to say hello to you and spend some quality time. it’s his favorite thing ever visiting his favorite person who has brighten his life.
he cannot thank you enough for putting a big smile on mayday. he always tells you that mayday misses you when you’re not around 🥲 it tugs at your heartstrings so each time you get to be around mayday you always hold her in your arms taking care of whenever it was needed. mayday never causes you trouble surprises she’s calm but always babbling happily as if she could formulate words.
you loved the way you and peter have gotten closer because of mayday. well, you thanked miles for introducing you to peter but nonetheless you had each others back whenever. that friendship blossomed into something more intimate and more than friends. it was the way his words were sweet and encouraging and just the way he looked at you whenever he was talking to you god it was to die for.
when you told miles you had a crush on peter he accidentally slipped out peter’s secret that HE had a crush on YOU also. the way miles clasped his hands on his mouth and went “uh oh” was funny 😭
“um, what?? really?? he likes me too??” you literally were in disbelief but the happiness that coursed through your veins made you unbelievably happy. “please don’t tell peter i told you!!” miles begged but you happily obliged, of course you weren’t gonna through miles under the bus but thanked him that he gave you the best new ever.
anyway, after you brought it up to peter…peter was flabbergasted because he didn’t think you’d like him back just because he already has a kid and maybe that wasn’t very appealing to you BUT you didn’t care about that because you really cared about baby mayday and you really were into him.
he was ecstatic and you guys started to go out together spending quality time with mayday in your arms and his arm draped around your shoulders as y’all went on a walk at the park.
peter and you had a date night so peter put miles, pavitr, gwen, hobie in charge to take care after mayday. they all rooted for you guys and they were your biggest supporters ever !!
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hobiebrownismygod · 6 months
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Honest opinions on hobie
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And how far would you go for him??
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Okay, HONEST OPINION
I love him.
But the idea of him also scares me just a little bit.
Think of it this way, he was introduced as this cool, calm guy who's obviously an amazing spider-man, a good leader and a great role model (even though he says he isn't one). He's very collected, understands how to work with the team, and backs up Miles when needed.
In the Spider Society, he thinks up his plan fairly quickly, going along with the flow while he steals materials and talks to Miles about what the Society is really about, all while staying incognito under Miguel's eyes.
So really, he's a chill guy, right?
But that's the scary part.
This guy is under so much pressure. Not only does he have to deal with the fascists in his dimension, he's also helping out Gwen, keeping on good terms with Miguel, planning out an escape for Miles, building multiple of his own multi-dimensional watches, and probably more. He's multitasking at impossible levels. And what happens to people that are under too much stress?
They snap.
Now I'm not saying Hobie is going to snap. But if he does snap, I don't think it would be the good kind of snap (if there even is a good kind of snap). A guy with that much responsibility weighing him down is probably gonna go as mental as Insomniac Peter after getting the Venom symbiote.
So its really more interesting than scary, but he's such an intense, well-developed character that the idea of him going crazy isn't far-fetched, even when you compare to the way he acted in the movie, if that makes sense.
But thats just my thoughts, idk.
How far would I go for him?
You have no idea.
I have never been so obsessed with a fictional character in my life. I would die for this mass of pixels. There is quite literally no limit in how far I would go for him and there's no way for me to put it into words 😭
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rappaccini · 11 months
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arachnophobia notes; chapter 2
chapter title:
from 'ivory tower' by nova twins.
preface quote:
from james m. barrie's peter pan. hobie's nickname for her being both a ref to her nickname from peter in the main comics (... a pet name used by her boyfriend. which 👀), and a ref to wendy of peter pan-- also a girl who flees her home to avoid dealing with a difficult situation, who is the only girl among a group of flying mischievous boys, who is connected romantically to a peter who she does not end up with because she's capable of growing up and going home to face her responsibilities and he isn't.
the peter could be peter parker, miles, maybe even miguel. all three, in my book.
it's clear that the movies see miles as her peter pan. makes you wonder if the writers remembered how peter pan ends. or if they think that changing the ending so wendy and peter end up together will improve the story instead of fucking up its purpose.
the quote in question refers to wendy after her return home. it's okay that she outgrew peter, just as it's okay for gwen to have outgrown miles in their time apart.
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timeline notes: we've synced up with where gwen is chronologically in atsv. seventeen months after itsv, five-ish months into her stay with the society.
stages of grief: this one's about denial, in both definitions of the word. gwen is in denial about how angry and upset she is, and that she doesn't want to solve her death problem by being miles's girlfriend... then she denies miles when he tries to start that relationship.
it seems like noir and ham don't get invited into the society in atsv, since they don't appear until gwen's assembling her band at the end.
had to make some mention of gwen and peni seemingly having no strong relationship, which i guess follows since peni's a bit young to hang out with her. peni only turns up for miles in both her appearances in atsv.
tiny divergence here: in atsv, gwen isn't actually keeping hobie's shoes, even though external material for the film calls them a gift from him. based on their dialogue in mumbattan it seems like she threw them on in a hurry when she was leaving his place that morning (which has very 👀 implications regarding why exactly she was sleeping over, in need of a quick redress, and why their clothes were mixed up together). in this fic, presumably that still happened, but she just kept them afterwards. the chucks are great and i'm so happy 65b gwen finally gets to have them.
gwen's age is a bit hard to pin down. we know she's fifteen months older than miles in the movies (and 3-5 years older than him in the comics, but the writers are being slippery with both their ages to try and hide that), but since we're not sure how old miles is, we can't pin gwen's age down any further. my best guess was if miles is a little into fourteen in itsv, gwen's about 15 and a half. plus seventeen months is sixteen-and-ten-ish-months (further supported by rio thinking gwen looks old enough to vote, so if she's 16, she's going on 17). and gwen would be counting those months, because birthdays would mean a lot to someone who knows they'll likely die at nineteen.
time did canonically keep moving in gwen's world. so on 65b she was a missing person for months.
ballet academy: idk if 65b gwen's at a formal ballet school or just does it as a hobby, but it felt relevant to include.
in the comics, when gwen goes missing, the mary janes do actually put up missing persons posters for her. however in the comics gwen and the janes are friends. in the movie that doesn't seem to be the case; maybe they wouldn't.
in the comics, gwen's identity is guessed by the janes well before she reveals it. because it is quite obvious. probably even more so in the movies, because on top of the captain stacy connection, she's literally running around wearing a distinctive set of ballet shoes they'd probably see in gwen's bag all the time, and both disappear at the same time.
as in the film, by this point gwen is regularly crashing at hobie's. since hobie lives in a fascist dystopia, is involved in the resistance movement there, and has a history of squatting, he probably doesn't have a reliable address and it isn't always a good idea for him to invite someone to sleep over at his.
also, i needed a reason for gwen to have late nights with miguel. that felt like a good excuse.
gwen's creep-o-meter deja-vu goes off because she has been here before, actually. 65a and 65b gwen both get pressed into joining shadowy organizations led by a conflicted-but-antagonistic older man (with the first initial m) who has a, uh, vibe with her. it's an interesting constant in their narrative.
in case it isn't clear, miguel hit gwen with his mug. if he was throwing shit at her in atsv in full view of hobie and miles and she was unfazed, then 1) he does that a lot and she's used to it. and 2) he probably does worse when they're alone together. (with that in mind, hobie not wanting to leave gwen alone at the society, and specifically hanging around in the background as she speaks to miguel, probably has something to do with that. he knows she's in a situation where physical abuse is likely and wants to get in the way to deter it before it happens, or at least be there to comfort her afterwards.)
for the purposes of this fic, miles had to be able to join the spider-society. trying to skirt canon here by playing up gwen's own anomalous status-- if she's one, yet miguel let her in, he should be willing to do the same for miles.
anyway the moment gwen gets to reunite with miles in the film is roughly what happens in the fic, except she is allowed to see miles, and is here to recruit him.
(maybe the spot exists at this point, maybe he doesn't. idk. he can't be here for this fic due to the timeline so i guess he just fell through a hole in the universe and hasn't found his way back yet.)
miles arrives
gwen knew miles for literally three days. that isn't brought up enough. she knew him for three days, and hung out with him for one of them. then she spent seventeen months apart from him, and five of those months were spent hanging out with other spiders, two of whom she becomes closer with than she ever was with miles in the first place. she and miles don't actually know each other well. if anything, they're more interested in the idea of each other than the actual person.
(so gwen having a crush on him so strong that she risks her life to see him again even after spending far more time with other guys who are her type and clearly interested in her... makes no sense. gwen would not do that. nor would any teenage girl.)
and to gwen, the idea of miles does matter a lot to her: he's the first other spider-person she met, his world's the first other one she explored, and hanging out with him (and peter b) made her want friends again. he opened that door for her.
and she does sincerely respect and admire his abilities as a hero and find his personality appealing. also important to acknowledge.
... she just ultimately does not know him that well, and has more history and bonding experience with pav and hobie. so in this fic, we're actually gonna acknowledge that and explore the implications.
which means when gwen reunites with miles, she's over her crush on him. and her opinions about him throughout this story are going to often be completely wrong: she has no idea what he's actually doing or thinking.
miles morales is spider-man. that's marvel editorial's stance on him, that was his creator's stance on him. he is, unquestionably, a spider-man who is/will be peter parker's equal. he is the next bearer of that mantle and is the friendly neighborhood teen spider-man of anyone under 25. as much as atsv implies that miles is unwanted, that simply isn't entirely true, and has to be taken more as meta about the fandom perception of him, because right from the start, miles had editorial's support and at this point his momentum is undeniable.
... and, gwen has rose-colored glasses about miles fitting in at the society. he DOES have an easier time navigating it than her, being that he's male and not the communal dead girlfriend, but he is not having a good time and his acceptance is full of caveats she is unaware of.
miles and margo's 10-second interaction in atsv was fantastic. in this fic, since he gets to actually join the society, he gets to befriend her. in my mind they get together in the end, but i don't think that'll be mentioned in the fic since gwen and margo barely interact.
gwen being incapable of telling miles important information that could hurt him (that he's an anomaly, that his dad will die, that something's Going On with her and hobie; she even skirts around going into detail about her death) is an aspect of her atsv characterization i like a lot. keeping it here.
and for the purposes of this fic needing miles to remain in the society, he can't flip out and go on his canon-destroying mission yet. ergo, he can't be told his dad will die right away, and he can't be given a specific time for it either. so here, he just finds out after a few weeks, and it's still unclear when it'll occur. ergo, bullshit dead dad math is the excuse to buy us a few extra months of time for the plot to play out before miles flips his shit. that's still coming.
the crush: it makes perfect sense that miles would fixate on gwen for seventeen months. (... just not that she'd be as attached by the time they reunite. she friendzoned him at the end of itsv. maybe she reevaluated her feelings and thought 'well, if it's him or being alone, i pick him,' but after a year that crush would fade. after seventeen months, she would not be hung up on him.)
and if miles is so fixated on gwen, why wouldn't he look her up in his world sometime after itsv? that's the first thing any modern teenage boy would do with a girl he likes: google her.
miles is a smart kid. even if he isn't told the truth early on, like in atsv, he would have figured it out.
another important thing about miles and gwen's connection: he saw her for her. most other spider-men see someone else first.
miles honey, not-like-other-girlsing gwen isn't gonna help
miles is spider-man. spider-man is optimistic, scrappy, and determined to beat the odds. of course he thinks he'll be the exception.
miles is miles. he wants to save his dad. he'd want to save gwen too. this conversation takes place under uncle aaron's memorial wall to give miles an emotional trigger for that promise.
miles is a teenage boy who's never been in a relationship or had his heart broken before. he's gonna go about this in a very earnest, but very flawed way.
and really, how on earth does atsv gwen, who knows that being spider-man's love interest gets her killed, not get worried or nervous when she realizes miles, a spider-man, sees her as his love interest?
(...because she's being written by straight guys who want Being The Male Character's Girlfriend to be such an overwhelming pressing need for gwen that she'd overlook her own life for it. no thanks.)
perfect gwen
earth-803 is the steampunk-inspired world of lady spider.
it's atsv canon that gwen and hobie hang out when not on missions. incorporating that here.
jess is the person handling gwen day-to-day, so miguel being the one calling on her means shit's real.
the vibe with gwen and miguel's relationship i'm going for here is that he's essentially her abusive foster dad. not too far off what's going on in canon-- notice how gwen's dad was redesigned to look a lot like miguel?
i can't imagine that miguel likes hobie, or that gwen is hanging around him. he doesn't respect hobie enough to think he's a threat, but he does regard him as a nuisance with some uses.
and he doesn't fully perceive what's happening between gwen and hobie. he doesn't see anything he doesn't want to. and he does not want gwen fucking around with spider-punk, because that's not the spider-man the society wants her to pair up with.
miguel's reasonings for his fixation on saving gwen will be explored in chapter 4.
earth-8 gwen, in the comics, is 38 years old. if we're assuming she became spider-woman at the same age as 65b gwen, at around 13, then she's been swinging for 25 years.
"the sensation surging through gwen" is a feeling of belonging.
recontextualizing canon is a thing made up for this fic. but it's gotta be in play somehow in atsv; how else do you explain how 'there's only one spider-man' is a rule, yet the insomniac spider duo of miles and peter are literally walking around in the background? how else do you explain gwen's foundational death being her crush instead of a relative? clearly canon can be stretched as needed.
miguel's presumably a single dad, given how his wife is mentioned nowhere in the film. he and gwen share that dynamic in common.
celebubration is the gwen 65a equivalent of instagram.
the challenge for miguel that he's been wrestling with is figuring out if spider-gwen is a spider, or a gwen.
'gwen stacy will always fall in love with spider-man, but can live as long as it's miles' is the conclusion i'm afraid the movies will come to. (which misses the point, probably intentionally, to make sure they get together.)
miguel does want gwen to survive. he's just going about it in a really shitty way.
gwen-8 comes from the comics. specifically, the miles-gwen shipping miniseries of sitting in a tree. my feelings on it are... negative. essentially, miles and gwen go looking for his missing dad in her dimension, and despite barely knowing each other, having an inappropriate age gap (he's in hs, she's in college) they're weirdly touchy-feely. oh, and the watcher/basically god swoops in out of nowhere to inform them that there's a utopian world where everything works out perfect for them, and they just so happen to be a power couple with a nuclear family, and come meet your sweet super-special kids, don't you wanna get together and have them? and that's the context in which those kissing panels exist. it's the worst story spider-gwen's ever been in. it is beyond creepy that a 16yo boy and a 20yo girl who barely know each other and are in a high-stakes stressful situation are being told they can only have a happy ending in a world that loves them if they make out and procreate.
so this entire section is sitting in a tree hate. that issue singlehandedly ruined comic gwiles forever. it doesn't matter if they get together as adults after the age gap problem becomes irrelevant, bc the basis of their relationship will always be 'we feel obligated to be together' and not 'we are acting on feelings we developed without any coercion or entrapment'
and full stop: it's worse for gwen. she's being told, in siat, and in this fic, that she still has to be spider-man's girlfriend (and wife, and babymaker) if she wants to live, and to be accepted by people. it very much feels like an arranged marriage miles's creator sprung on gwen for his character's benefit.
funnily enough, in siat, gwen-8 never actually appears. nor does her miles. their kids do. in the fic, i wanted gwen-8 to actually get to weigh in on the frankly gross situation she's being asked to take part in. (that's coming later.) thus, we meet her.
earth-8 gwen is everything people in-fic and irl want gwen to be. she's gorgeous, she's one half of a power couple with miles, the mother of a son and daughter who are both superheroes, she's the leader of a superteam and a beloved celebrity by her world. all that is from the comics. rant time! it was deeply shitty of the writers to dangle that version of her in front of 65b gwen and say 'this is what we wish you were. don't you want to be that? better get with miles'
earth-8 gwen being an interdimensional genius is a creation for the fic. there had to be a way for her and her miles to have met and settled on earth-8. thus, they did it themselves long before miguel. (which also blasts a hole in his own importance, necessary for later)
"we're the ultimate crossover" is what max and charlotte call themselves. bleeeeeeh. (also, 'ultimate' as in 'ultimate spider-man'-- aka who miles is in the comics)
in the comics, gwen curses a lot. she starts cussing in the fic when she starts following in her 65a self's footsteps. before that point, there are no expletives. after, gwen's got a sailor's mouth.
once more with feeling, it is unbelievably creepy that gwen had her potential future kids thrown at her and was forced to hang out with them. it felt very much like she was being pressured into wanting to have them. which she didn't.
something's wrong: fuck yeah it is.
a "brighter tomorrow" is how earth-8 is referred to. we get it bendis you really think you did something special there.
miles chatting with perfect miles will come back later.
in the comics, earth-8 gwiles aren't around because they're on that second honeymoon. here, they skip it to come meet their alt selves.
just as miles's story can be read as an allegory for how black and brown boys are treated by society and in fiction, the same's true for gwen and (specifically white) girls. comics gwen being lured in with promises of safety and protection from a big terrible outside world, and then told the only way she'll ever be accepted is if she marries the right sort of guy and reproduces with him very much plays into that narrative. that allegory is at play a lot in this fic.
earth-8 gwen can still see gwen clearer than anyone else here. that's coming back.
the unbreakup
jess is a bad mentor, but she's not as bad as miguel. she at least lets them have privacy.
the conversation happens on the clock tower miles takes gwen to in atsv. within the bounds of this fic, they went here when she asked him to join the society.
"they streamed their wedding to 300 billion people" literally happened in earth-8. ridiculous. and shady as hell: why would anyone do that, unless the wedding's more about attention than love?
when drafting this fic i debated if i was going to go with gwen being trans. i like the coding, but it's also not the same as clear representation, and i knew i wanted to explore the earth-8 situation; which, for a girl who can get pregnant, is a much more visceral and immediate kind of horror, because it feels possible. trans gwen can't get pregnant, so the horror had to be different. the angle i went with instead is 'she instantly knows that this isn't her' and we spin the anxiety from there.
('even if i could i wouldn't' needed to be here. spider-gwen is an ambiguously-queer punk drummer with no interest in domesticity. having kids is deeply out of step with her personality and her wants for her life.)
the more important test for a spider-person seeing gwen stacy isn't actually 'do they see her for her.' it's 'can they change their behavior so they can appreciate her as her own person even if they DO know.' miles didn't pass the test-- he never took it in the first place.
gwen being drawn to visions, now that we know that the gwen stacy death curse is in effect, is kinda horrifying. she literally cannot get away from the spider-man who's going to swallow up her life, even when they aren't on the same plane of existence. a 'soulmate' can be a terrifying thing.
"the universe is bringing them together. It’s cupping the backs of their heads and mashing their mouths together like dolls" .... did i mention i hate sitting in a tree?
in the comics, even the best case scenario for gwen means her homeworld rejects her and she gives up on ever returning to it.
for this portion of the conversation, miles is distracted by how excited he is about that future. he's a teenage boy with a crush who just had that crush validated by everyone, and he's a boy in love with a girl he's afraid might die, who knows it's possible to save her.
he is also a boy who has spent as of this fic, one whole month hanging out with this girl (and again, three days in canon). he doesn't know her well enough to be able to tell she's unhappy.
he is capable of picking up on it. just not quite fast enough.
important to note that even though miles is a sweet kid who wants gwen to be safe, his crush is entitled. he does want things from her that she doesn't want to give him.
refs to 65a: gwen's dad sleeps through his favorite show, dadcop. the mary janes are constantly bickering. the art style has a watercolor shine to it (... but only on the covers. not so much in the actual page art). the yancy street gang like to cause minor trouble with gwen. vulture kicked her ass and threw her on a trash boat once. and there are billboards everywhere advocating for her arrest and deifying peter parker.
even the crappier parts of gwen's world are worth missing, because they belong to her.
at this point gwen wants agency so badly that she's looking back at peter's death as a positive, because at least she was able to make that happen.
what's wrong, what's been plaguing gwen this chapter, what she's been in denial about, is that she doesn't want a relationship with miles. she likes him, but not enough to be with him romantically. and never enough to give up her personhood.
to reiterate: miles is a good kid who wants gwen to be happy. he just hasn't considered that to be happy, she can't be with him.
gwenandmiles: fandom salt. i hate how overnight, the gwen discourse shifted from 'i hope she gets her solo series back! can't wait for her to travel the multiverse and meet other gwens, or have more sexual tension with em jay, or play with her band, or fight jackal or man-wolf. how are harry and her dad? is the bodega bandit okay? when's cindy moon coming back, would love for them to face off! how's she going to defeat the storm siblings and be able to come home from exile again?' to 'gwen is soooo in love with miles! look at her pining after miles! sure do love how her arc in atsv is all about falling for miles and becoming worthy of him! miles miles miles! all gwen thinks about is miles!'
thanks i hate it! the fandom proved all my fears right! if gwen and miles get together, she'll never be her own person!
'gwen's going to end up in miles's world' is my big fear for the comics. if gwiles get together there, because he's vastly more popular than her, she's gonna be the one who has to move to his world and join his supporting cast, and abandon her own stories where she's the lead, to be a side character in his. it doesn't matter how sweet miles is to her; the imbalance is impossible to avoid.
(it's that kataang flavoring: it doesn't matter how sweet the boy is; the relationship will still unravel her because the writers pulling their strings will never treat her as anything more than his girlfriend. and the audience will follow suit.)
(plus some makorra: they look good together, and the concept of them is great, but in practice this relationship brings out the worst in them)
the arrangement also sucks for miles. i can't imagine a kid as kind as him being okay with her losing that much of herself to be with him, or being treated as an extension of him.
(but it is worse for gwen. unquestionably.)
however he also doesn't realize those are the consequences yet. he doesn't realize that gwen doesn't want those things for her life. and he's afraid that if they don't get together, she will die.
gwen stacy hated spider-man. but because she loved peter, that's what everyone remembers. which means she can never hate him for how he fails her. isn't that horrifying?
'miles cares so much' -- this is the gwiles ship assassination chapter. i didn't want it to be the miles character assassination chapter. gwiles is bad for gwen, but miles isn't.
however, there's no way she realizes that yet.
'break his heart'-- a motif from the comics. that's how harry refers to gwen killing peter. physically, and metaphorically.
hobie. naturally, miles is gonna jump to that conclusion. it's easier to assume a girl is rejecting you because she's with someone else than because she just doesn't want you. and he's still considering another guy's feelings over the autonomy of the girl in question.
also to be clear, she and hobie do have an intimate relationship at this point in the fic. we'll get into that more later.
in the amazing spider-man movies, gwen dies when she falls from a clock tower. very eerie that gwen and miles's convo in atsv is at one too.
miles did catch gwen. but that's not the point. the point is he never should have needed to.
it does not matter if miles isn't peter parker. he's still spider-man. even if she lives and is his girlfriend, she's still His Girlfriend. she still isn't her own person.
the seventeen month gap. again, so much happens in that time, especially for teens. miles and gwen do not know each other that well. they're more attached to the idea of the other, instead of the actual person.
the autonomy issue isn't just exclusive to miles. it's everyone. gwen gets her first taste of that realization here, but she's a teenager trying to dump a boy; she's kinda busy. she'll get there though.
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from the 'sitting in a tree' miniseries of jason latour's radioactive spider-gwen. specifically, this is the moment gwen rejects a relationship with miles. sideeyeing the atsv writers hard for borrowing so heavily from siat, but seemingly missing the point: that this relationship is shallow and forced and should not happen.
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eldritchmochi · 8 months
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A N T for that alphabet ask game
A - Ships that you currently like a lot. (They don’t have to be OTPs because not everyone has OTPs.) Friendships, pairings, threesomes, etc. are allowed.
okay uuuuh i mean, obviously shadowgast i have only written like 300k of it in the past few years. im also quite the fan of ashrym/dashrym and callowmore (tho i like my callowmore on the platonic side personally). i will happily make the dirt wizards kiss ANYONE i do have a widomauk fic in the works and i have an idea for a caleb/yussa fic percolating and theres that one porny art by newt with c3 era caleb paired with ashton and orym that im just :lasereyes: yes i will one day write something for it i stg. also fun fact my First Ship for cr was beauyasha like, ep one. i got like 30 seconds into their first interaction and immediately texted cherry at like two am like PLEASE TELL ME THEYRE A SHIP and lo, they were cannon fucking incredible
outside of cr.... stucky, my beloved, especially with skinny steve because i love that sickly twink; big brother hobie creating Situations for gwen and miles (its hard being wingman to two people when you want them to kiss each other and also theyre idiots); kylux, obvs; rey/finn/poe/rose in basically any combination (i wish i didnt have One Hyperfixation Only type adhd because i would LOVE to write my rey/finn/rose idea where rey and rose are mechanics and finn is having car trouble and then they double team him in the office dont ask me why they have straps in the filing cabinet this is pwp); with hs at one point i would literally randomly generate pwp ideas. i didn't often finish them but it was a good exercise especially in characterization but i was mostly read davekat, daverose, any combo of erisolkat, and davejohn because i fukken pavlov'd myself into liking the ship lmao
shit this is gonna get long here is a read more
N - Name three things you wish you saw more or in your main fandom (or a fandom of choice).
hhhh i am so sorry if this sounds mean but the bulk of why i dont read a ton of cr fic when i was constantly devouring kylux fic largely boils down to two things
1. the technical stuff is eeh and 2. there is just not a ton of nuance in characterization or plot
both results in me being perpetually frustrated whenever i try to read most of what i open. theres been some gems!! theres also been a lot of stuff with promise where i can tell in a couple years the writer will knock it out of the park!!! but theres also a god awful amount where i'm just like that is not how dicks work lmao
i am sure a lot of that is because the cr fandom skews a lot younger than kylux (where folks are like 20-30 on average instead of 35-50 kinda younger) plus cr has a LOT of esl speakers compared to kylux whereas a TON of kyluxers have degrees in literature or library science, so like, it makes sense that there's a difference, but it still drive me bonkers that i cant just open a fic and read it without closing it halfway through because its too one note :I
T - Do you have any hard and fast headcanons that you will die defending? 
nope!! i am very ship and let ship in all regards. there are many things i enjoy (like short!essek or the idea that caleb would and probably has made out with all of his friends) that crop up repeatedly across my fic but i'm down for basically any good faith interpretation and i LOVE when someone writes a weird headcannon so well i have to steal it
there are many letters left of this ask meme if anyone else wants to send me a q!! pls enrich the mochi this is fun
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//waves at you// Hello hi!! I see you also enjoyed atsv, any favorite bits or any thoughts you want to share?
HI I LITERALLY JUST WATCHED IT FOR THE FIRST TIME LIKE AN HOUR AGO YES YES. sorry for All The Posts btw i dug thru the tag til it slowed my computer and was just miguel x reader stuff so im done for the day <3
ANYWAYS THE MOVE WAS. everything yeah <3 my thoughts are mostly messy and all over the place bc HOLY SHIT bc i was not expecting anything but also by the end i was like yeah yeah YEAH so um. yeah i didnt know it would cliffhanger but also when we saw gwen going to get peter b i was like okay yeah this HAS to be where it ends bc no shit they wrap this all up lol. i also called miles was going to earth 42 before he realized it bc i was like okay his room is NOT the room i remember OH SHIT WAIT ITS THE UNIVERSE THE SPIDER WAS FROM
literally obsessed w that part btw...like miles was never supposed to be spiderman!! but he IS and he WILL BE and when hes talking to his mom and shes talking about how he should go to all these places and not let anybody tell him he doesnt belong there or something to that effect? YEAH. YEAH <3
ummm what else. i really liked miguel he has such an interesting worldview and the canon events and how miles has always BEEN an anomaly and everything regarding the narrative as this thing that Will Happen and Has To Happen and how everyone sort of reacts to that differently was so COOL bc i really love those sorts of stories lol.
speaking of the whole canon event stuff and how miles saved the guy who was supposed to die and everyone was so HAPPY and then yknow gwen is there fully aware miles ruined everything and yeah. yeah. but also like. miles is SPIDERMAN. he could save a person so he DID and what else was he supposed to do....
HOBIE i loved him i loved how he helps miles how he just is like 'yeah i quit' and peaces out i loved how they animated him. i mean the entire animation style slapped obviously lol i also really liked how colors were bleeding into each other in gwens universe!!! THE SCENE WHERE GWEN TALKS TO MILES'S PARENTS IN HIS HOUSE i liked that. i liked a lot of the parent stuff a lot it just Hits. yknow. (<- is literally not a parent)
THE ENDING TOOOO like holy shit i cannot wait to learn more about other miles ok!!! the way the two of them both lost a different person....uncle or dad....GOD. and gwen and the group to help miles and how hobie's dimension travel watches are more messy vs the 'cleaner' look of the official ones....
BASICALLY I LOVED THIS MOVIE ive been looking forward to it all WEEK cannot wait to go see this in theaters like. ten more times lol. did it w into the spiderverse Will Do It Again.
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kookiesjoonies · 4 years
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rule breaker — jhs | part ten.
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rule breaker | part ten: ramen & froyo.
a/n: this chapter is quite a few days late, but i literally had the worst case of writer’s block of my LIFE. i started this chapter, n then completely scrapped it. and i’m glad i did, bc the first draft was SHIT. LMAO. anyway, come talk to me abt hoseok n yn please. i want to hear your thoughts. especiallyyyy after this chapter! thank u all for reading! xo
main pairing: choreographer!hoseok x idol!reader
side ships: vmin, namkook
word count: 5.1k
warnings: fluff, angst, wet dream (dunno if that qualifies as a warning, but uhhh just in case lmaodskjd), masturbation, squirting
— SERIES SUMMARY
your career as an idol comes first, end of discussion. and to make sure that you stay on track, you implement two foolproof rules to abide by:
rule #1: no distractions. rule #2: no mixing business with pleasure.
and those rules seem simple enough to follow. that is, until you develop a crush on your new choreographer.
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Dance practice was over and you felt like you’d just run a marathon. No, wait, scratch that. You felt like you’d run five marathons. Dancing with Hoseok was no joke. He always pushed you to work harder, to do better. And any time you were convinced you couldn’t perfect a move, he’d encourage you and offer you a thousand reasons as to why you could.
Both of you were drenched in sweat. Your grey crop top soaked and dark in certain areas, perhaps revealing a bit too much of what was underneath. Hoseok’s hair was sticky and wet against his forehead, and he’d pushed it back since practice ended.
You’d have been stupid to ignore just how attractive such a simple gesture made him look. Still, you tried your hardest to push such thoughts out of your mind. You shouldn’t be thinking of him in such a way. But you blamed it on the sensual dance routine that you’d just completed with him.
Jimin was just supposed to be late to practice, but he ended up having to skip it all together. Which meant that every single sexy move you were supposed to do with your best friend, you’d done with Hoseok instead.
At first, it was awkward. You didn’t know where to put your hands, and he was hesitant to put his on your body as well. Eventually though, the two of you relaxed into one another. The feeling of his fingertips on the bare skin of your hips was exhilarating, as well as the feeling of his length being pressed against your ass while you pushed back against him.
The way that he watched you in the mirror, the way way his pupils had clearly dilated, sent immediate relief washing over you. You weren’t the only one affected by the routine the two of you were performing. But at the end of the day, it was just that. A performance.
And that’s what you’d keep telling yourself, even if deep down, you didn’t believe it even for a second.  
“Well, I don’t know about you,” Hoseok began, lifting the bottom of his muscle tank top up to his face to wipe the beads of sweat trickling down, “but I worked up quite the appetite.”
Your eyes shot down to admire his perfectly sculpted abs that were practically begging for your touch, your tongue poking out to wet your lips at the delicious sight.
“Y/n?” Hoseok was speaking again, this time albeit a little louder, which snapped you out of your trance.
Embarrassed, your neck straightened up so that you could now look at the man towering above you face to face. And you willed your cheeks not to turn red, hoping and praying that he didn’t catch you checking him out.
“Huh?” That was all you could muster up, unsure of what he’d even said to begin with.
To your surprise, he offered you a chuckle in response.
“I said I was hungry. You want to go grab lunch?”
The two of you’d never hung out outside of the studio before, so you were a little taken aback by his suggestion.
He could sense your hesitation, and he stuttered as he tried to play it off nonchalantly.
“Or, uhm— we don’t—, we don’t have to. I just figured—“
You cut him off, a small smile creeping it’s way onto your face. He really was adorable when he rambled.
“Hobi, we can get lunch. I just wish I didn’t have to go out in public looking so gross.” You were half joking, half serious.
Your hair felt greasy, you weren’t wearing any makeup, and your athletic clothes were sweaty and sticky. So, you were definitely not fit to be seen in public at the moment.
“You don’t look gross.” Hoseok was quick to reassure you, matching your smile with a wide one of his own.
“No?” You asked, wanting him to compliment you one more time. Even though, you weren’t sure why you wanted him to do so so badly.
“Nope!” he shook his head, “you look like you’ve been working hard.”
You internally groaned. Not exactly the kind of compliment you were hoping for, but it would do, you supposed.
“In that case, did you have a place in mind for lunch? Or..?”
“There’s this place down the street that has the best cooked ramen!” you found it adorable, the way he was so enthusiastic even while talking about food, “Is that okay? I mean— do, uhm— do you like ramen?”
A tiny giggle left your mouth before you could stop it, and you offered him a quick nod of your head.
“I love ramen.”
“Great!” he grinned, “let’s go then!”
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Turns out, Hoseok was right. This place did have the best ramen. You were sure you could slurp up at least ten bowls of it.
Your choreographer was sitting across from you at the small round table. The place was quaint, small, and yet surprisingly busy. Various K-Pop songs boomed through the speakers overhead, and the hustle and bustle of the restaurant workers never seemed to cease. The sound of the other diners mumbling bounced off of the walls, and the aroma of the foods being cooked in the kitchen were to die for.
“So,” Hoseok spoke up after practically inhaling a few bites of his ramen, “do you like the place?”
You didn’t hesitate in answering, “Yes! I can’t believe it’s been so close to the studio for so long and I never knew about it.”
“You’re welcome.” He winked at you, a playful gesture that for some reason, had your heart doing flips in your chest.
You gathered a small bunch of noodles with your chopsticks, bringing them up to shove the food into your mouth.
“Aren’t you nervous people will recognize you?” Hoseok questioned, taking a sip of the soda that was sitting beside of his bowl.
You shrugged, chewing and swallowing the bite you’d just taken before answering him.
“It’s just part of the gig, you know?”
“No,” he admitted, “I don’t know. How do you do it? How do you deal with people constantly invading your privacy?”
“It’s not easy,” you answered honestly, “but I’ve been doing it for almost six years now, so. I’d like to think I’ve gotten used to it.”
“You handle it well. The way you carry yourself, even with all of the pressure you’re under, it’s admirable. And the fact that you’re so— so kind, so down to earth, even with the millions of fans you have.. it’s amazing, really.”
His series of seemingly never ending compliments were successful in creating flutters in your stomach. You were sure your cheeks and the tips of your ears were tinted pink, and your spine tingled as you happily took in every single one of his words.
“Hobi,” you couldn’t hide the grin that was now plastered across your face, “you’re too sweet.”
This time, it was Hoseok’s turn to blush. You’d said something so simple, yet it had the apples of his cheeks tinged red. He’d hoped you hadn’t noticed. But you did, which only made you want to continue your compliments further. If it meant seeing him like that, all flustered and shy, you’d compliment him twenty four hours, seven days a week.
Even if, technically, you shouldn’t be trying to make him blush. But at that exact moment, you couldn’t be bothered to give a single fuck.
“I mean it,” you continued, swirling the few remaining noodles around in the bowl below you, “you’re so kind to me, always. You have no idea how much I appreciate it.”
He glanced away from you then, turning his attention to watch the waiters walk in and out of the kitchen. You didn’t miss the dark shade of red that had taken over his entire face. And yeah, you found it undeniably adorable.
Before you could say anything else to him, a familiar sounding song blared from the sound system above you. You couldn’t help but to laugh, shaking your head as you listened to the low beat of take me.
Hoseok faced you again, a smirk present as his ears perked up to listen.
“Hey, that sounds kind of familiar.”
“Never heard this song before in my life.”
You kept a straight face, for the most part. But Hoseok didn’t miss the glimmer of playfulness in your eyes.
“Ahh,” he decided to play along, finishing up the last few bites of his meal, “a shame you haven’t heard it. The artist who sings it, she’s truly something special. Insanely talented, an incredible dancer.”
“Maybe she’s just an ‘incredible dancer’ because she has such a good teacher.”
“Nope!” he was quick to shut you down, “she’s talented because she’s hardworking and she never settles for anything but the best.”
If you didn’t know better, you could’ve sworn he was flirting with you. And maybe he was. Or, maybe you just wanted him to be? But then, why did you want him to be? Your brain was scrambled, too many thoughts running a million miles a minute.
The sound of footsteps approaching your table pulled you out of your own head, and standing before you was a tall, lean yet muscular man with dark hair. He had a freckle just under his bottom lip, which you were quick to note was quite cute. You assumed he was a fan, but as soon as he addressed the man sitting in front of you as Hobi, you quickly realized he was here for him and not you.
“Here’s that movie you wanted to borrow.” The younger boy handed a disk over to his friend, and you watched the exchange curiously.
“Ahhh! Thank you, Jungkookie! I’ve been wanting to see this for ages!” Hoseok quickly stuffed the film into his bag at his feet.
“Hmm,” you observed, tapping your manicured nails on the top of the table, “Jungkook, I presume?”
He seemed shock at the mention of his name. Or rather, at the sound of familiarity laced in your tone.
“Uhm, yeah..?” he cocked an eyebrow, stuffing his hands into the pockets of his leather jacket.
Your attention turned to Hoseok, and you pointed a finger at Jungkook.
“Is he the one who thinks I’m a diva?”
Hoseok had a mouthful of soda, and damn near did a spit take at your obvious call out.
“You told her?!” Jungkook slapped his hyung’s shoulder, and you watched as Hoseok soothed the abused spot with his hand.
“It just slipped!” The older male was quick to defend himself, and you couldn’t help but to laugh at the whole ordeal.
“Guys,” you said, “it’s fine! Jungkook, I’m sorry that you think I’m a diva. I’d like to think I’m not, but your own opinions can’t be helped.”
“She is not a diva, I promise. She’s anything but.”
You couldn’t help but to smile wide at the sound of Hoseok defending your name.
Jungkook rubbed the back of his neck nervously, “Ahhh, I shouldn’t be so quick to judge, or to assume. I don’t even know you. I apologize.”
He bowed in front of you, and you waved him off.
“I promise, it’s fine,” you assured him, “I accept your apology. Any friend of Hoseok’s is a friend of mine.”
He sighed, relieved.
“In that case, could you get Jimin’s autograph for me? I’m like, his biggest fan.”
Hoseok groaned before bringing the palm of his hand up and dragging it down his face. You just laughed, nodding your head once in response.
“I’ll see what I can do. You should come by the studio with Hobi sometime, you’ll probably run into Jimin there.”
“Really?!” He lit up like a kid in a candy store, and it seemed as though his older friend had had enough.
“Okay!” Hoseok said, shooing Jungkook away from the table, “You’ve fulfilled your purpose of dropping off the movie. Thank you!”
“Awww, but hyung!” Jungkook pouted, “I was hoping I could join the two of you, and you know, tell her a secret of yours since you told her one of mine.”
You perked up in your seat, gaze shifting to Hoseok as you eyed him curiously.
“What secret?” You asked, hearing Jungkook snicker to your side.
“Ignore him.” Hoseok groaned.
“Alright, alright. I’ll leave,” Jungkook held his hands up in front of him in defeat, “but you should tell her, is all I’m saying.”
“Tell me what?” You asked, intrigued and confused all at the same time.
Hoseok shook his head.
“Nothing, he’s just an idiot,” he insisted, laughing the entire situation off, “we should uhm— grab froyo after this, if you’re not busy, I mean.”
“Ugh, the key to my heart.”
He smiled at your immediate acceptance, flagging your waiter down and digging in his pocket for his wallet.
You did the same, unzipping your purse to retrieve your credit card.
“No, no, Y/n. I got it! My treat.”
“Hoseok, I can’t let you—“
Before you could argue further, the waiter was walking away with Hoseok’s money. He was unbelievable.
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He paid for froyo, too. Despite your arguing.
The two of you were walking along the river, enjoying your cups of frozen treats. It was spring, nearly summer, so the weather was just right. The sun was shining beautifully on the water beside you, not a cloud to be found in the sky. It truly was a beautiful day.
“It doesn’t shock me that your favorite color is yellow.” You started, dipping your spoon into your birthday cake flavored yogurt.
“Why not?” Hoseok retorted, bringing a spoonful of his own dessert up and to his lips.
“Because it’s a bright, happy color. And you are a bright, happy person.”
He flashed you that big, toothy grin that you’d grown to adore so much.
“Alright then, what’s your favorite color?”
“Red.” You answered without hesitation.
He shook his head, quiet laughter exuding from his throat.
“What’s so funny?”
“Nothing,” he insisted, “red just matches your personality perfectly.”
You cocked a brow, licking a bite of froyo from the spoon.
“How do you figure?”
“You’re full of fire, full of passion. A force to be reckoned with, you go head first into everything that you do and you don’t stop until you’ve achieved your goal.”
“You got all of that from the color red?”
“Mhm.” He just nodded at you, his smile never once faltering. Your damn heart was doing the flipping thing again and you feared it would leap right out of your chest if he looked at you like that for a second longer.
“Okay,” you said, dipping your spoon into the bowl, “you have to try this. It’s so good.”
You lifted the plastic utensil up to his mouth, and he only hesitated for a moment for allowing the sensation of birthday cake flavor to flood his taste buds. His eyes lit up, and his tone was enthusiastic.
“Mmm! That is good! I’m not usually a giant fan of cake flavored things, but I’d eat that.”
You fake gasped, bringing your free hand over your chest.
“How dare you! Birthday cake is the best flavor!”
“Pffft, no way!” he was quick to shut you down, gulping down another bite of his own treat, “brownie batter is. Here, you try.”
He was bringing his spoon up to your lips in an instant, and you poked your tongue out to give it a test lick. Usually, chocolate flavored ice cream wasn’t your favorite. But this was incredible.
“Aww, man! I like yours better!” You pouted, and Hoseok’s heart sank at the sight.
He knew you were being playful, but still, he couldn’t help himself.
“Here,” he held out his bowl to you, “we can trade.”
You shook your head, refusing the gesture, “I can’t take your food!”
“Yes you can! Please, for me. I want you to enjoy this.” His voice was kind, sincere. How could you say no to that?
“Only if you’re sure.” You said, hesitantly switching your bowl out for his.
“I’m sure.” He smiled at you again, and you felt like you’d been grounded down to the earth once and for all.
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You didn’t make it home until the sun was about to set. Having too much fun with Hobi, you decided you could afford to stay out for a bit. He really was wonderful company, he seemed to make even the simplest of things fun. You’d hoped you’d get to hang out with him like that again in the future, the near future, to be exact. It was different than when the two of you were in the studio.
There, you were working. But today, you were out having lunch and enjoying spending casual time together. It felt like it went on forever, yet not nearly as long as you hoped it would last all at the same time.
However, you were happy to finally be in the comfort of your own home. Practice had kicked your ass today, and you were exhausted, grimy, and in desperate need of a shower and a nap.
Taehyung wasn’t home either, so you were home alone and excited by that fact. Very rarely did you ever have time to yourself and yourself alone. Except, you weren’t alone. And you didn’t know that until you walked into your master bedroom and saw Jimin sprawled out on your bed.
He nearly gave you a damn heart attack, had you shrieking like a banshee and clutching your chest.
“Jimin! What the fuck?!”
“It’s your fault for giving me a key.” He was flipping through a magazine, unfazed as ever.
“You could’ve texted me and told me you were coming over!” You scolded, and he just grinned.
“Where’s the fun in that?”
“I hate you sometimes.”
“Liar.”
You walked further into your room as you rolled your eyes, picking up a pillow and tossing it forcefully at his head.
“Hey!” He whined.
“Why did you show up here unannounced?” You questioned, lying down beside of him on your king sized bed.
“Wanted to see how practice went.” He turned the page, and you peered over his shoulder to see what he was reading. Of course it was a fashion magazine.
“Fine.” You answered simply, and your best friend was shutting the catalog instantly.  
“Damn, one syllable is all I get? Must’ve been better than I thought.” His smile was mischievous, and you had half a mind to smack it right off of his face.
“We danced. I learned the routine, and you did not. Which means you’ll have to work extra hard trying to catch up tomorrow.”
He rolled his eyes, knowing exactly what you were trying to do.
“Dude, shut up. You know I could learn it in my sleep, and you also know the ‘routine’ isn’t what I’m asking about.”
“Jimin,” you groaned, “don’t start.”
“Was it hot? Did you get off on grinding on Hoseok?” He wiggled his brows, and you flicked his nose with your thumb and middle finger.
“Ow!” He cried out, bringing a hand up to rub over the sore spot you’d just created.
“Don’t ask stupid shit like that.”
“Come on, Y/n. It’s me. You can talk to me about this shit.” He tried to convince you, and somewhere inside of you, you wanted to.
Because yeah, maybe you did get aroused from Hoseok’s hands on your ass. And maybe you did get a little wet when you were grinding against his thigh.
But who wouldn’t have? He was a fairly attractive man, after all. It didn’t mean anything. At least, that’s what you kept telling yourself.
“I’m going to take a shower.” You quickly changed the subject, swinging your legs over the side of the bed.
Jimin couldn’t help but to roll his eyes.
“You’re so fucking stubborn.”
“I know. Are you spending the night?”
You heard him sigh, a sad sigh that made your heart clench.
“I would, but... I don’t want to make Tae uncomfortable.”
“I get it. But you’re welcome to stay, you know that. This house is plenty big enough, and we always hang out in my room anyways.”
“Yeah, I know. But I’ve already pissed him off, or whatever. I’m sure me staying here would just add to that.”
You frowned, wishing that you could do something, or say anything to ease his obvious hurt.
“I love you, Chim.”
“Love you.”
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Normally, you’d stay up until at least midnight. Tonight, however, you were exceptionally exhausted and were lying in bed by nine.
Your satin sheets felt extra comfortable underneath you, and your eyelids were heavy. Friends played on the big, wall mounted television in front of you, and the sound of your air conditioner running was lulling you right to sleep. Before you knew it, you were slipping into a state of blissful unconsciousness.
You weren’t sure how you’d ended up in Hoseok’s apartment. And you definitely weren’t sure how you’d ended up nearly naked underneath him on his couch. You were squirming below his touch, his blunt fingernails lightly scraping down your stomach, leaving goosebumps in their wake.
His hips were rutting into yours, Hoseok’s hardened length rubbing along your soaked, clothed core. You were a moaning mess, slews of curses and praises spilled out of your mouth, letting him know that you were fucking loving everything that he was giving you.
“Hoseok, please don’t stop.” Your voice was quiet, barely above a whisper as you clutched onto his back in an attempt to keep yourself grounded. You felt like you were floating, like you were in a completely different time and place.
“God, I’ve waited so long for this,” he was growling lowly into your ear, his fingers descending south and flicking the thin strap of your thong against your hip, “waited so long for you.”
You yelped at the feeling of the string stinging your skin, your shriek turning into a whiny moan as you felt his hand begin to slip into your panties. You couldn’t wait for him to finally be where you needed him most. You didn’t care if his fingers were inside of you, his tongue, or his cock. You just needed some part of him filling you up. You needed it in the same way that you needed oxygen to survive, and you feared that you would die if he didn’t touch you right here, right now.
His head was hovering above yours now, and you were sure he was about to lean in for a kiss. Which had your pussy clenching around nothing. It had just occurred to you that you’d never kissed him, and all you wanted was to taste him. You were sure he’d taste delicious, sickeningly sweet.
Instead of his lips pressing against yours, though, they parted. And he began repeating your first name over and over again like a mantra, gradually getting louder and louder as the seconds ticked by.
One final yell of your name had your eyelids shooting open, the sound of Hoseok’s voice being replaced by the low tone of your brother’s. You blinked once, and then two more times for good measure. It took you a whole minute to realize that you were at home. In your bedroom, not in your choreographer’s apartment.
“Tae?” your voice was groggy, “what time is it?”
“Past ten. I could hear you from down the hall, it sounded like you were in pain so I came to check on you,” he said, cocking his head to the side as he stared down at you, “must’ve been one hell of a nightmare.”
Embarrassment immediately came over you, and you were thankful for the dark lighting of the room because you were sure your face was similar to the color of a tomato.
“Yeah— uh, just a... bad dream. I’m good.”
“If you’re sure.” His voice was laced with genuine concern, and you almost laughed. Such a protective older brother.
“I’m good, Tae. Swear.”
He nodded, mumbling a goodnight to you before turning to leave your bedroom.
You called out to him before he could shut the door.
“Hey, wait a second!”
“Yeah?” He was confused again, and you worried your lower lip before you spoke.
You weren’t usually one to meddle in his personal life, but this time, you felt like you had to. Or, that you at least had to try.
“You need to talk to Jimin. He thinks he made you upset, or mad. At the very least, you should tell him you aren’t angry with him.”
“Noted.”
That was all he said before he was shutting your door, and you couldn’t stop the dramatic roll of your eyes. Typical Taehyung.
You pushed your hair back and out of your face, grimacing as you felt the beads of sweat pooling on your forehead. In your half asleep state, you’d almost forgotten what you’d been dreaming about. You let out a groan as the images flashed through your memory.
Not only were you dreaming about Hoseok, but it was a wet dream. Surely, you hadn’t actually gotten aroused by it.
You bit down on your bottom lip before sliding your hand underneath your duvet, pressing your fingers against your underwear to test for any dampness. You gasped as you were greeted with soaked panties, hissing through your teeth as your fingertips barely grazed over your clit.
Before you really knew what you were doing, your hips were bucking up and into your hand. You pushed the cotton fabric to the side, letting your middle finger drag along your slick folds. You sighed at the feeling, your head tilting back as your eyes screwed shut. It was almost unbelievable how drenched you were just from a fucking dream. And a dream about your fucking choreographer, to beat it all.
You moaned at the images of Hoseok during practice earlier flooded your mind. He was so hot, and so sweaty. The way his fingers curled around your thighs had you wondering what it would feel like if he was the one touching you right now instead of yourself.
Maybe it was wrong, but you didn’t care. You kept yourself focused on Hoseok as you used your middle finger to circle around your throbbing bundle of nerves, whines and praises of his name slipping out of your mouth.
You dipped a finger down to tease your slit, imagining the entire time that it was him. You slipped a single digit into your heat and keened at the sensation. Hoseok’s fingers were much longer than yours, and you were sure he could have you cumming with them in no time.
Still, you decided to work with what you had and began to fuck into yourself until you were knuckle deep. You added a second finger and moaned at the stretch, your thighs beginning to shake already.
“Fuck, Hoseok!”
You picked up the pace of your fingers, curling once you found that spot that drove you absolutely mad. Using your free hand, you allowed your index and middle fingers to vigorously rub at your clit.
It was too much, too soon. Your walls contracted around your fingers, and your legs convulsed. Your thighs were trying to squeeze together and you were arching off the bed as you felt your lower stomach knot up, fire spreading from head to toe and making your toes curl.
Your orgasm hit so hard that you were practically screaming, Hoseok’s name being the only word left in your vocabulary. This was harder than any orgasm you’d had in a long time, and you could feel your juices squirting out and all over your hand and wrist. You squealed at the feeling, using your fingers to fuck yourself through your high.
Your breathing was erratic, and stars were circling above your head. You groaned as you pulled your hands away from your cunt, wincing at the emptiness.
An arm rested over your eyes as you attempted to stop panting. Slowly, you felt like you were back on earth again and the black dots you were seeing went away.
There was no fucking way that just happened. You did not get off while thinking of Hoseok.
You were furious. And you wished that you were mad at yourself, but the only reason you were angry was because you’d had to get yourself off. You wished it would’ve been him doing it instead.
Against your better judgement, you grabbed your phone off of your nightstand. It was eleven now, and although Hoseok was sure to be asleep, you needed to hear his voice. For what reason? You weren’t sure. Either way, you were scrolling through your contacts to find his name, pressing the call button with a bit too much enthusiasm.
When he answered the phone, his voice was raspy, deeper than usual. You were right, he’d been asleep.
“Hello?”
“Uhm, hi.” You said, voice shy and almost inaudible.
“Y/n? What time is it? Is everything okay?” He sounded worried.
“I’m okay! Uhh, it’s past eleven. I’m sorry for waking you, I didn’t mean to.” 
Yes you did.
He was beginning to sound a bit more awake now, and you heard him yawn on the other line.
“It’s alright, I just wasn’t expecting you to call. Or, call this late.”
“Yeah..”
It was silent for a few seconds, neither of you knowing quite what to say. You couldn’t exactly tell him that you’d just made yourself squirt to the thought of him. And he wasn’t about to tell you that he was glad you called.
“What are you doing up?”
“Uhm—“ you stumbled, trying to come up with any excuse other than the truth, “I couldn’t sleep.”
You heard him chuckle, and it was as if all of your worries and nervousness evaporated at the sound of his laughter.
“Not that I’m not flattered, but.. why did you call me because you couldn’t sleep?”
You groaned internally. Why did he have to ask such questions?
“I just... I don’t know. I wanted to talk to you, is all, I guess.”
“Okay.” He seemed satisfied with your answer, and you sighed in relief.
“Hobi?”
“Hmm?”
“Will you FaceTime me until I fall asleep?”
As badly as you longed to see him in person, you figured that this would do for now.
“Absolutely.”
He was calling you instantly, and you smiled as soon as you laid eyes on him. His hair was disheveled from sleeping, and his cheeks were a bit puffy. Suddenly, the other side of your bed felt a bit too empty. And you wondered what it would feel like if he were laying beside of you.
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