#i mean not that i ever do but yknow

[gummi-ships]

Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance - Braig / Xigbar

#kingdom hearts dream drop distance #khddd #braig #xigbar #my gif #his pointy shoulders deflated with age #...do you ever wonder about his scarf? #radiant garden took pride in its beauty and ansem the wise was a ruler who was beloved and admired by his people (despite... yknow) #so is it safe to assume that being a guard of this world being tasked with protecting the castle/its ruler/and the townspeople- #would be considered a prestigious occupation? #yet we see braig wearing an old tattered scarf #it's a curious addition to his uniform that looks out of place among other guards #i dont think it was added to his design to help him stand out because cmon it's not like he's competing for relevance with dilan and aeleus #braig fights from afar with his guns it's not like he's some scrappy guy that might have messy clothes from battle #i wouldn't be surprised if this was ephemer's scarf that he somehow came into possession of #and is holding onto it with the possibly of it being used as some kind of medium/waypoint #who's to say he's not still wearing it under his organization coat? just because we can't see it anymore doesn't mean it's gone #riku had an entirely different outfit under his own organization coat so who knows what xigbar has under there #i like to think braig used to be scolded for wearing the scarf because it covers up the uniform's emblem #and wearing old ripped articles of clothing isn't part of the image the guards would presumably have to uphold #but eventually they gave up on making him take it off because he just does whatever he wants #just something i think about from time to time #xigbar has always been so mysterious and cryptic i can't help but keep an extra close eye on him #especially since he's been revealed to be so much more than what he seems. who knows what tricks he has up his sleeve #i don't think it's outside the realm of possibility

[lost-tardis-room]

someone should tell micheal sheen to get a tumblr once the actors strike is over i think he'd like it here

#i mean it would be absolute chaos but yknow #i feel like he'd vibe with it #just it would have to be after the strike he probably doesn't need anymore tempting to talk about The Kiss as it is #micheal sheen #good omens #do you think he'd ever tell his ao3 lol #actually no i don't want to know what he writes about #but that would be new levels of fandom fame #micheal sheen leaving a comment on your fic #hehe

[natjennie]

i want to explain my mental illnesses to robin and have him like nod and grunt along while i talk and then hum really sagely and give some beautiful touching life advice like "brain not bad just.. different. I've seen a lot of people. we all different. world would be big boring if everyone was the same. you just better at some things and worse at other things. that why we all work together, help each other. sometimes you fight mammoth and sometimes you stay in cave with babies. it all come out in the wash."

#yknow what i mean #anyway im doing normal. #that pikmin tandori song thing but its me getting through the day thinking about robin #bbc ghosts #and then you explain the same thing to pat #and he's like 'ah yeah course there's nothing wrong with it' #'we once had a boy- peter his name was- stuck a whole pack of gum up his nose one piece at a time' #'an absolute nightmare that was- had a right awful time in accident and emergency that night-' #'but anyway-' and just tell like crazy stories about people in his life being nd. and like 'still loved him at the end of the day' #'and he was the best artist I'd ever seen- I'm telling you he'd be painting with mud on the tarpaulin like bloody euclid' #and robin's like 'you mean michaelangelo'

[crescentfool]

the persona 3 protagonist 25th anniversary nui in food appliances!

#lizzy speaks #persona 3 #minato arisato #makoto yuki #guys friendly reminder that this is what adulthood is about dont listen to anyone who calls you cringe #hence why im putting these in the main tags. i mean they're not incorrect for what the photos are about. lmao #anyway this was a very fun birthday!!! i feel very loved and supported by so many people and i got to do very fun things (like this)... #i think... birthday is like thanksgiving to me. in the gratitude respect. #a reminder of all the lovely people that i have gotten a chance to meet and how i've learned from them #it makes me very happy to have been born... i think every day is a great day to celebrate life's grandeur + brilliance + magnificence #it's just a very poignant and strong feeling that i have that i'm happy to have met so many wonderful people #and while there are some people i've only known for brief periods of time or people who i havent really been good at keeping in contact wit #i do cherish it! im so grateful. so happy that there are people who cheer my silly shenanigans on #while there are ways in which aging makes me go “oh hmm” i think overall i'm happy that i get to keep on living and learning #i have so much fondness for humanity and people... like even if i dont get to talk to ppl directly i just get very emotional yknow #like wow.. you exist.. thats so fucking awesome... i hope you have an awesome day... im glad our paths could cross #if you have read up to this point of my tags.. thank you for reading and being part of my life #i will keep on being the silliest guy ive ever known! cheers to more shenyanigans and self-discovery :3

[duskerot]

i disappear inside myself / my friends don't know it can't be helped

[Pure You - Nothing But Thieves]

#my art #mysme #mystic messenger #v mystic messenger #jihyun kim #ummmm hi guys #^-^ #fanart from me?? posted directly to this blog ??? or at all??? Well. #i was looping this song and i had the idea for this and then sat down for about four hours and here it is #im on like day 2 of v's route for the first time AND this song just came out like right as i got into his route yknow #and i was listening to those lyrics like.... huh..... #this soundssss. familiar. #anyway. politely i did NOT think that if i made fanart of this game after returning to it for the first time in like 6 years. it would be V #i adore this song though. and it compels me #i havent ever seen his route before so i still don't know how it ends idk how accurate this vibe even is #i would say try to avoid spoiling me in the tags but im gonna be real say whatever you want kings #i love u mysme fandom thats still around in 2024 you get me #anyway im drafting this at about 3 in the morning and i need to be awake earlyish tomorrow SO. #we'll see when i post this #its been so long since ive posted art i just do nawt make fanart until i get divinely inspired #iffff its blurry please click to see it its supposed to be crisp ^^; #been on this site how long i still pay no mind to their suggested image resolution #OH and by day 2 of V's route i mean like day 6 overall. you understand

[luck-of-the-drawings]

FOR A BEAT OF HEART, THE BREATH IS SHOT. AND WITHIN A BREATH, THE HEART IS CAUGHT. THE PIPES ARE BURSTING, UNDER GREAT STRESS, BOLTS TORN ASUNDER, MAKING A MESS. A FINAL COUGH, A FINAL RETCH, A GOREY SLOUGH, CLAIMED BY WRETCH.

#cw gore #jrwi riptide #jrwi riptide spoilers #chip jrwi #jrwi fanart #jrwi show #I LLOOOVE POETRYYY I LOVE MAKING WORDS RHYME IN STRANGE WAYS AND DESCRIBING VISCERA AND VIOLENCE OR WAHTEVER. YKNOW WHAT ELSE I LOVE #CHHHIIIIIIIBBOOOOO MY BEAUTIFUL MAAANN WWHAT. WHAT HAPPENED. OH MY GOD. IVE BEEN SAYING FOREVER. I NEEED CHIP TO GET SCARIER. #HE HAS THE POTENTIAL! I KNOW HE DOES! HAUNTED BOY WITH THE HAUNTED EYES WHAT TRAUMAS HAVE YOU SEEN? AND WERE THEY YOUR FAULT? THINK ABOUT I #EVERY FAMILY HAS CRUMBLED AROUND HIM. HIS BIRTH FAMILY CRUMBLED BEFORE HE KNEW IT. HIS SECOND FAMILY DROWNED. THIRD BURNED TO THE GROUND #AND SHALL THIS NEXT FAMILY JOIN THEM? CHIIIIP YOU UNFORTUNATE BOY YOU HAVE WITNESSED SO MUCH CALAMITY #YOU ARE CALAMITY BOYYY AHAHAHAHA DONT YOU SEEE!! ZOMBIFIED AND DEAD. TRUELY MORE HAUNTED THAN EVER BEFORE. THIS WILL BE FUN #THE FIRE HURTS WHEN IT BURNS TOO LONG. BUT NOW YOUR NERVES ARE DEAD AND YOUR MIND IS FREE. BURN THIS CORPSE AS YOU WISH TO GET WHAT YOU WAN #CHIP IS NOT THE FIRE HE IS THE MATCH. I LOVE THAT IDEA SO MUCH IM SO PROUD OF IT. OHHH AND CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE CORRUPTION #bizly mentioned that chip wants to be a good captain. in his most corrupted state however. he would be the BEST captain.. #thAT DOESNT MEAn hes gonna just suddenly be all controlling. the BEST captain keeps his crew safe. keeps them together. keeps them alive. #and chip is doing just that! he doesnt need to stop being a good captain just bc of the corruption! he just needs to be the BEST CAPTAIN #AND THATS SUBJECTIVE BABY!! im so excited to see where chips zombie arc goes. neeeed him to get scarier and just a little more fucked up. #neEED HIM TO PERFORM ABHORANT ACTIONS THAT HAVE JAY N GILL GOING ' dude woah what the fuck...' #RIGHT I SHOULD TALK ABT MY ART TOO. this one took TOO LONGGGstarted out witha sketch how did it end up like this... #the heart and the blood KILLED ME. LOOK AT MY RENDERING LIKE HWAAATT #better not see any more mistakes after i post this.... i cant fight withit anymore....STILL RLY PROUD THO.. #I WAnted to make it visually LOOK like the grossest vomiting sound possible #i want it to make your throat feel uncomfortable. am i achieving that? i hope i am. thats tubes dude!!! like cmahn!

[carnivalcarriondiscarded]

i have never felt this uniquely insane about a character <3 i cant get a read on him

#what is his DEAL #im usually really good at pegging a character's intentions / general vibe #BUT IM GETTING SO MANY MIXED SIGNALS THAT I JUST DONT KNOW #his off the charts rizz is fucking up my geiger counter #is he evil? is he a victim? a pawn/minion? does he have good intentions? neutral ones? bad ones? #I CANT TELL #welcome home #wally darling #i mean im team 'wally is a victim just trying to help / protect his friends (maybe the 'viewer')' #and home is maybe the main villian but also not bc the villain is the abstract force of cosmic horror manifesting as the chasm under home #and it has simply infected home or possessed it #and welcome home's whole deal is cosmic horror from a puppet's perspective #and they all need to stick together like glue to get through the Ordeals and Situations #and wally's just trying to keep his friends safe and the neighborhood together and fix home #BUT if it turns out wally is straight up evil then. yknow. i support his wrongs <3 #he could do literally anything and id be twirling my hair cheering and clapping #i love his big hair and gay little outfit #ever since i watched night minds video he hasnt left my brain. i think he's eating it #like i want him dead. i want him to be happy. i want to beat his little body against a wall until his stuffing comes out. i want to hug him #he is everything to me. he activates my maiming instincts but also my cherish instincts #i want him to get all the hugs from his friends #god i cant wait for this whole enchilada to kick off its gonna be a DOOZY #i trust clown's brilliant mind no matter which way they take this #absolutely fascinating stuff. i already know im in this for the long haul

[drbtinglecannon]

Thinking again about how aside from Raine, Darius is the only other person from Eda's past that calls her "Eda" and not "Edalyn"

Lilith, Gwen, Principal Bump, Alador, Perry, they all call her "Edalyn". Raine & Darius call her "Eda".

#toh #eda clawthorne #raine whispers #darius deamonne #lilith clawthorne #gwendolyn clawthorne #alador blight #principal bump #perry porter #dell isnt here bc he only ever called her pumpkin or witchlet. also i know perry prolly called her 'edalyn' for accuracy/professional #w it being a newscast but still. darius called her 'owl lady' until eda starts teasing him THEN hes all 'eda >:(' its hilarious #for ease i just used the first time raine lilith & gwen said her name since they say it a lot & its unnecessary to include every time yknow #tc posts #also love how mad raine looks when darius bitched at eda. are they mad bc hes being rude. bc he said 'eda' & thats their thing. or both lol #what i wouldnt give to see more eda & darius interacting. knowing dana agrees w the idea theyd have a hilarious dynamic means so much to me #dariraeda #kinda lol. i do enjoy it

[cathalbravecog]

QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK

#my brain treats these things the same as it does spamton. almost. i want to see them dead i want to chew on them. i want to kiss them gentl #y and tuck them in bed and sign up adoption papers for them. i want to hit them with a baseball bat. i will take a bullet for them #yknow? #you get me. #again an experimental fun quick drawing #that i ended up ... popping off on. oops. #i have... 0 self control in art #fun fact originally this was gonna be a painting but i went hmm what if i do the thing #ive been doing with sketch lineart on paper but... digitally? angular and sketchy and sharper #aw yea #guz art #toontown corporate clash #low baller #also i had to post this on clashcord and bail instantly because the second i see angst for stuff i like that i havent made myself #i lowkey start breaking down oops #i dont do well with other fans of things that im not familiar with.... my brain works in mysterious ways ! #i say this as my next drawing i plan is literally oc angst ... oops ! #something i aint done in a while....i only ever do vent stuff i never post if anything. i try not to be like.... venty edgy like that it #just. aint for me. well i say while i ramble on and vent constantly. oops. but yknow what i mean - not let my art reflect that? be goofy #with the stuff i do? but like yeah either way. lore gettin angsty. have we gotten to the point in our lore / rp yet? no. is it kinda an #inescapeable point? yes. i loooooove making my characters suffer the consequences of their actions #WHY AM I TALKING SO ELABORATELY ABOUT THIS. THIS IS A LOW BALLER DRAWING. #BY TALOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY BRAIN!! OH WELL if you like these. thanks for reading you are swag. you probably went thru #like. 5465465341564 thomas 'fights' now havent you #oh well gotta have a place to dump my thoughts somewhere!

[spider-man-2o99]

so, then, what IS up with miguel o’hara’s moral backbone?

lol sorry if y’all’re sick of my 2099 soapboxing. anyways.

while i understand where the reading of “miguel is a morally bankrupt evil scientist and his spider-man is just a violent shitheel” comes from, i just... really can’t ever get behind it, based on what we see in the text of SM2099 v1 (1992-1996) itself.

like, don’t get me wrong-- from our first introduction to the guy, we very quickly learn that he has been a cog in the machine for one of the 2099 imprint’s Big Bads, the ruthless megacorporation in charge of the United States’ East coast: Alchemax.

..but. like.

the whole point of his origin story is changing that. the initial catalyst for his Spidering--getting roofied by Tyler when he tries to quit his job--would not have happened if he had no moral compass to speak of.

narratively, it’s less that miguel himself is changed, after he gets his powers, but that his perception of the world has changed.

just-- just bear with me, yeah?

see, for a lot of his life, miguel was a perfect cog in a shitty machine, and he did everything he was expected to without even thinking to stray from the path set down for him by his biological father and by alchemax overall.

and, then, suddenly, that’s all ripped from him in an instant. and miguel’s left floundering in the water.

he’s no longer on the winning team-- more than that, he realizes that he probably never even was on the right side of things, to begin with.

miguel o’hara’s most-quoted line is his response to the infamous “great power,” bit: Great responsibility? No. With great power comes great guilt.

he’s repressed, and he’s a hypocrite, but a guy can only turn a blind eye so far when something he knows is wrong is happening right in front of his face.

as soon as it’s even suggested to him, he immediately steps out of line and tries to put his foot down on absolutely not using a human test subject for his personal spider-man project. when stone brushes him off and makes them go through with human testing anyways, and then the subject dies, miguel doesn’t hesitate to turn up his nose and walk out right then and there on the spot.

his reward for it, of course, is an ice-cold dose of Reality.

from there, his blinders get pulled harshly off his face, and mig realizes that he really doesn’t want to keep being the person that he has been. his life has been wasted sitting idly by and letting bad things happen because all he knows is helpless compliance, right up until he goes and gets himself The Fly’ed into spider-man.

and once that happens, and he Realizes it, he starts to fight back.

that’s how the run is kick-started, in the very first three issues!

the first ten issues of spider-man 2099 (1992) follow miguel stumbling from a very sheltered life, having been thrust head-first into navigating a world that is not only deeply, deeply unjust, but also wants him very, very dead.

he don’t got a dead uncle to motivate him! all he’s got it his own fear and an inner desire to use his new abilities to try and make the world a better place.

hell, the first time he put on the costume, ol’ miggy boy wasn’t even doing so for the purpose of becoming a superhero in his off-time-- it was just an old spare in his closet that he threw on in a desperate attempt to Not Fucking Die as a bounty hunter tracked him to his home.

it’s only later on, after he’s had time for it all to sink in, that miguel realizes that he can actually meaningfully help the people who had been cast aside by the same society that had previously lifted him up above them.

as much as he whines and bitches and moans about it, he never seriously considers throwing in the towel and hanging up the costume for good. he may hate what has happened to him, but he never once seems to hate what he can now do with his powers, vis-à-vis challenging injustice.

mig’s often stuck between a rock and a hard place, what with the kind of world he lives in. it’s why he don’t work well when he’s stranded away from his dimension. peter can get his villains locked up just fine and dandy, but miguel’s world isn’t like ours like that. it’s brutal and it’s very very much established across the imprint that earth-928 (marvel 2099) is a kill-or-be-killed place to live.

despite how people harp on him not having a no-kill rule, miguel honestly hasn’t even killed enough people to count on one hand; the first was completely by accident, even, and the second told him to his face that if spider-man let him live he’d just keep being a cannibal gang-boss because no one else ever has or would try to oppose him.

is killing people the answer? not if you have any other option. but. mig ain’t a friendly neighborhood superhero. he’s just doing what he thinks is right in the moment while scared absolutely shitless for his life most of the time.

now, i don’t mean to defend his every action--miguel o’hara isn’t a saint, and, good god, but he’s made some questionable choices--but. at the end of the day, he’s still shown throughout the run to be trying to be better.

and, i dunno. maybe i’m just a sentimental little sap, but a story about somebody who finally “wakes up” and struggles to build a life worth being proud of after years of having shut down from heavy early-life trauma? that hits, man.

hits real close to home, to be honest. learning to Live after so long simply Surviving is fuckin’ hard, man.

#spider-man 2099 #spiderman 2099 #miguel o'hara #meta #my meta #comic analysis #atsv #itsv #spider-man #marvel 2099 #marvel #across the spider-verse #talking tag #yarfs this all up on ur laps and skitters away into the night for ever #all this long long post is to really say is just. yknow. #just because they never said the words ''post-traumatic stress disorder'' until the 2010s it doesn't mean he wasn't Coded back in the 90s #slaps roof of spider-man 2099. you can fit so much goddamn Coding in this guy #call me whatever u will but i gotta underline i'm NOT in love with this man he is simply my dark mirror reflection of self #sm2099's my Special Interest i gotta lotta thoughts abt it #'dude this is super biased and opinionated' well. yeah. why do u think i point that out all the time? im coverin my ass for a Reason #always do your own research and take away from a piece whatever you want to take away from having experienced it etc. etc. etc. #this is My Blog where I natter on and on and on abt what i Wanna in between the metaphorical scrapbook-making experience

[hajihiko]

I've seen a few people talk about how much smoother things would have gone for the cast if they had A Mature Conversation about things, but like. they're teenagers. Not only that, they're all gifted kid teenagers who also have Issues (except Hajime who only has the Issues). How capable do you think they are of going 'alright now boys we need to talk about your misogyny' or somesuch

#I think a part of what COULD be the tragedy of it all is on fact that they're teenagers with even less #-of a standard for what's normal than regular teenagers. #16 year old kids seeing another 16 year old kid who clearly has a history of abuse but they're like #Damn that sucks... Uh... Should I tell a teacher or #Oh right wait killing game island. Welp. #Them as adults post game looking back like god DAMN if I could go back in time and respond better #But yknow no time like the present #The fact that people like heard a single word out of Mikans mouth and did not think to intervene says sth- #-about the school they went to methinks. #Anyway. This has been a Me Talking #Ps not saying teenagers aren't capable of being good people #But being in that situation on top of all their backstory baggage I can't blame them for putting certain things on the backburner #WAIT ALSO ALSO. Have YOU ever tried to talk to a mean teenager. Jesus christ #They do not take reason trying to argue just makes them stronger.

[claitea]

do you think the fact that its never stated that anthea and concordia's last names are "harmonia gropius" like it is for n and ghetsis is intentional. like it may just be because they're severely underutilized, but n and ghetsis had their names specifically stated in the directors columns and a fan meeting respectively.

n mentions he was given the name harmonia, did ghetsis withold that name from anthea and concordia on purpose? if he did, why? he'd still need them to trust him, so they'd keep raising n in his place. not sharing that name is maybe an effort to distance himself, maybe he only cared about n having that level of trust with him?

#clai speaks #alder trying to fill out government documents for them bc ghetsis never did and finding its a nightmare #''what do you mean you Don't have a last name'' ''fath-- ghetsis didnt give either of us one'' ''n has one??'' ''we're not n i guess'' #ooo do you think n and by extension a&c would change their last name #n holds on to it for a very long time i think. idk if he would ever actually get rid of it but sometimes i think about it #learning to slowly let go of his awful past and his awful excuse of a dad yknow #but also just thematically. the name fits him too well HDUGDHF #cant imagine n being called anything but natural harmonia gropius. its also such a pretty name #i'm getting offtopic. i've never even seen Fans call them ''anthea harmonia'' or whatever its JUST Anthea/Concordia #its just interesting to me that the reveals for n and ghetsis were so deliberate and its radio silence on a&c

[aroaceleovaldez]

The requested icons! (free to use, go wild. especially you new tumblr users.)

I just gave them semi-random pride flags for posting purposes (the ace Bianca one was requested) so if anybody wants versions of any of these with different pride flags or plain/solid color backgrounds let me know and I’ll happily edit that for you :D

#pjo #percy jackson #nico di angelo #will solace #hazel levesque #leo valdez #michael yew #bianca di angelo #my art #3/3 hades/pluto kids! fun #also to the person who requested michael yew thank you cause i never draw him but i love my design for him lots #he's got armsocks/sleeves!!! #i might do more of these cause ive got designs for. basically ever named demigod character. #and then some. so its fun to exercise those designs a lil bit #also nobody look at the chb shirt pegasi logos. dont look at me. #horses are hard to draw okay #also everyone be proud of me i drew noses for once /j #by ''semi-random pride flags'' i mean. my headcanons. for the most part #i feel like leo's is a given with. yknow. [looks at url]

[yesokayiknow]

rewatching the wedding of river song just for those five minutes of all three ponds sitting down at home and talking ;-;

#also for amy killing kovarian ❤️ #we were robbed! robbed i tell ya! #do you know what i would've done for more domestic scenes of them. do you know who i would've killed #they barely got to interact as a family! and it was always in the context of talking abt the doctor!!!! god. #i've been feeling a lot abt the ponds recently #i mean i always am but yknow #i watched the s5 angel 2 parter the other day #and river is CONSTANTLY checking up on amy throughout it. always asking how she is. the only times she looks scared is when amy's in danger #she loves her parents so much and can barely ever express it. god #mini ep where martha & river meet and talk about how shit the universe treats them dsakjdsakjl #also amy being like oh god i killed a person. what does that make me. to her former assassin daughter is always so so funny #it makes you based amy. next question #doctor who

[writhe]

#TAGS TLDR YOU CAN NEVER TRULY GO HOME BUT DO YOU WANT TO? #writing a little for d&d and having feelings about this #it was really interesting jasper and i were working on some game mechanics and we kept getting stuck at weird parts and it developed into #this conversation where we realized we experience the world #in such fundamentally different ways. like specifically talking about how paranoia #manifests and stuff but even later in a broader sense like our experiences of time and everything is so different #and they'd be like 'well what if this is something that happened to lock' and id be like 'how could that be something that anyone would #experience' and they were like 'oh because i do' #(example here was my character not realizing he had been magically transported and filling in the blank with vague memories of travel but i #was like. are you not acutely aware of every single moment you are awake and in motion even if it is excruciatingly boring. and jasper #was like. 'oh...no. i could be transported from one place to another and if time passed i wouldnt even think about having traveled or not' #which was WILD to me but then we were like 'okay i guess this cannot be something that happened to lock' because i couldnt even fathom that #but like anyway idk we got weirdly deep dive-y about d&d stuff and personal lives and i had big feelings on it bc genuinely i feel like #there are facets and caverns in myself i have only ever touched in storytelling but particularly in this campaign #and i've joked a lot about Lock and other chars in this game being self inserts #but i mean it in a good way #like the ways we tell stories or experience a world we created together is going to be through an extension of ourselves etc #but it's interesting to me to consider the limitations that brings yknow? we all live by such vastly different sets of rules and #understandings #and im writing out some stuff now and im like. yknow. #lock can never truly go home. i can never truly go home. none of us can ever truly go home #home as shifting impermanence home as transience etc #2017 levi is back apparently but hes always been right

[hearties-circus]

So I realised something right, with vez being an adult its most likely on anxiety meds and therefore is a version of me with actual confidence. By which I mean a massive asshole

#al art #al ocs #villainsona #not mean for the sake of being mean but mean as fuck when justified #and far snippier than me regularly #me but with boundaries and an immediately noticable personality is what im saying #actually did i ever mention the age range for vez before? whenever i do a 'me but for the sake of believability an adult' i typically add 10 #which usually makes vez 27 but yknow there have been some variation so really between 24 and 27