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cruelsister-moved2 · 1 year
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sorry but i think if youre making protest signs or wearing a shirt or whatever that associates lgbt people or abortion with satanism you are stupid as fuck 
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chrolloluvr · 3 months
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Plsplspls do Adam and Mammon with a reader who behaves like a lovesick puppy and is always battling her eyelashes at them and gets all flustered when they flirt plsss 🙏🏻
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Adam and Mammon w/ S/O who is lovestruck with them.
Note: I LOVE RJIS IDEA!!! ALSO WITH MY TWO FAVORITE MEN BY VIVZIE LIKE HELLO??
Female!Reader
Warnings: Touching, not proofread, but other than that nothing rlly!
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Mammon 🕷️:
He would use this to his advantage. If he wants something from you, he had you wrapped around his fingers.
"Hey babe, yeah, so I need something from ya. You'll do this for me right? Aw, your such'a good girl."
He is so aware that his speech and accent give such a feeling to you. He finds you adorable.
But other than the obvious exploitation, he thinks its cute. Obviously, millions of other girls in Hell feel the same way as you, but he chose you.
But other than that, he loathes in the attention and innocent looks you give him.
He will physically flirt with you. He likes to ruffle your hair, play with your cheeks (both ass and face), ,and his favorite, forcing you to look up at him. He knows his affect on you is dangerously crazy, so he uses that to his advantage.
You feel butterflies in your stomach whenever you're around him, and his loud, obnoxious self. You love how dainty and feminine he makes you feel. You are like his princess, and he is your king. (technically that is true lol)
Because he isn't a traditional man per say, but he has a traditional view on women.
He will mentally flirt with you. He gives you a certain look:
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He only does this when he wants to get you weak in the knees for him. Because he knows it works.
He will always tease you. He gets into your head like no other. When you are with him, it feels like no other man matters, it always circles back to him.
He loves the fact that you are obedient and behaved. He loathes in it. He thinks of you like a cute little puppy (that makes him no money whatsoever, but oh well.).
Verbally flirts with you. Well not necessarily always flirting, but thats what it feels like to you. Here are some things he will say to you:
"Hey babe, c'mere and sit on my lap, hurry up, we dont got all day!"
"Well don't you just look sweet, yeah? Are you tryin' to impress me or somethin'?"
"Cutie, go fetch daddy his wallet, yeah? Good girl, you deserve a little treat later, huh? You'd like that, would'nt ya'?"
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Adam 🕊️:
Always brags about it. When talking to Lute or something, he will be like:
"Oh yeah fore sure. but y'know, y/n can just do that for me or whatever. Shes just like that."
He likes that you are obedient, but sometimes it crept him out, at least in the beginning. You were willing to do almost anything for him. He liked the premise, but it make him weary how much control he had over you.
But now? He uses it against you. He will have you do things for him, like paperwork, helping him clean himself, dressing him, kissing him on the cheek, etc.
He cant get enough of how you pamper him.
Praises you. He will call you a good girl, say your his princess, etc. In a way, they way him and Mammon praise you is very similar. The only difference, is that Adam is more reserved when it comes to praise in public, while Mammon is shameless. This is because he cares about his image in Heaven, and cant do too much under watchful eye.
Also gives you a face:
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This man has such a devious grin, especially when he gets his way with you.
He does this face when he wants to rile you up. He knows he will too, since you are very compliant towards him, since he basically treats you like you two are married.
Also verbally flirts.
"Hey wifey- you look different today... did you do your hair or something? Looks hot."
"Hey babe can you do a favor for me and fetch me some water? Your the best babe, god."
"Aww you get embarrassed when your hubby pokes fun at you? Your such a snowflake babe, a cute little snowflake."
Touches you. He likes to tease your shy, pandering nature. So he likes to blow on your ear, come up behind you and pick you up, or just the occasional slap on the ass.
He loves how shy and embarrassed you become, so he will definitely enjoy continuing his antics.
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kouhaiofcolor · 2 months
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Dunno who needs to hear this (nah who am I kidding? I know exactly who I’m talking to & about, & y’all do too 😉),
but if your “Black friend(s)” are only Black males who are indifferent, entertained by or silent in the face of misogynoir, Black fetishism, colorism, antiblackness in general, & esp you using the n word as a non black — you do not have Black friends. I’m sorry. You’re simply friends with Black enablers who pander to & exceptionalize your ignorance bc they either hate themselves, their people or their culture (If not all of the above; & usually, it’s all if not most of the above). That’s what that is. At its core & in depth. The “Black People” you conveniently bring up to defend yourself when your humanity is brought into question or criticized online or irl, are just enabling your shitty behavior. And that is the purpose & function you comfortably reduce them to — whether either of you realize it or not.
They’re there for your convenience as apologists. I notice a lot of the time when y’all say or act on something antiblack, y’all reach vehemently for the minimal amount of Black “People” you actually know personally just to validate or excuse antiblack behavior, opinions or notions. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that these Black “friends” are always always totally fine w y’all mishandling them or things unique to our culture, either. It’s more birds of a desperate ass feather than anything else. Stop looking to these friends to protect, back and validate your prejudice, bc trust & believe actual Black People w self & cultural respect don’t & wouldn’t fw them anyhow. Y’all could be like, “BlAcK pEoPLe DoNt Go To CoLLeGe,” — and reference the all of 0.3 Black People you interact w on an even semi-regular basis as a representative for the entire diaspora just bc they coon ass agrees to save face in front of you. 😂 Be ffr.
Y’all are never acquainted w Black People who even have the balls to put you in your place “friend to friend” for the ways in which y’all make them look stupid. Please stop it. Also, not that it’s a secret at all, but Black men are pretty notorious for mistreating their own ppl the same way non blacks do so. 👀While it’s not all of them, they’re certainly not the most ideal group to testify for y’all, just saying. Them be y’all picks tho. Consistently. Y’all ain’t never friends w/ Black Women who don’t play that shit. Or even just a healthy mix of Black men and Black Women who even agree w y’all. 😂 Odd af. Y’all definitely cherry pick y’all dancing monkeys for testimony and line of defense — and they never fail to perform, I’ll give you that. You do not have Black friends tho. Tell your enablers to shut up since they’re so comfortable being silenced anyhow until you need ‘em.
Thank you for coming to my TED. ✌🏽😊
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zeravmeta · 2 years
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(throwing my 10 gallon hat in the ring) fgo is and will always be hurt by its status as a mobile game especially when the main draw of reading in it is made less accessible to many people (things like locking events and special interludes behind rpwalls or just flat out not using the feature they invented specifically to give people event access) but i feel like people get frustrated specifically because of the discrepancy in story quality throughout, and that ultimately comes from the fact that fgo has no single main writer.
fgo has its absolute highs and its eye-rolling lows and that fully comes from the fact that different people are writing different parts of the story (again born from its mobile game status) and that will ultimately leave the story feeling tonally dissonant. yes there are some overarching themes present within the story but people will always feel dissatisfied when reading fgo because the story quality and writing style jumps wildly between parts of the story. the same applies to its comedic side events as well, some of them can be ball bustingly hilarious and others can be a test of faith.
at the same time though I think it is unfair to say that there is no good that comes from fgo even with its messed up model: the variety of different writers makes it a total playground for them to play with wildly different stories and thematics that would never come from a series as dense as fate. nasu has writing chops but i dont think he could have made something like e pluberius unum or shinjuku without adding 2.5x the wordcount. there is no joke in carnival phantasm thats as good as real deal nobunaga or valentines exponential chocolate technology. while it certainly varies there are absolutely standout characters among the variety that are just as well written in fgo as they would be in a different, longer fate work. fgo is The game that introduced the concept of actually having a story and plot in mobile games. even with all the horribleness of Bill and Teds Epic Hentai Gambling Adventure people do still come back specifically for the story aspect of fgo more than any other aspect of it. its really better to think of fgo as a series of vignettes with an overarching theme because thats really what it is at the end of the day, a series of stories in a whole bunch of different settings with a main cast that has rotating characters. and again, fgo will always have inherent problems: the gacha model, marketing itself as a single story when its really not, the waifutization and pandering, continuing to bring certain subpar writers into the room, the actual gameplay aspect of fgo still having major issues, and so on. however i feel like people should already understand these things at this point, and people just consistently set themselves up for failure with rampant fandomization and not understanding the disconnect with fgo as a whole. maybe im just a little neurotic goblin but if youre going to play any type of mobile game, you should do your research first
fgo really is an exercise in taking the good with the bad and if the bad outweighs the good for you, then just read a different fate work or quit the series altogether, because fgo really is just a culmination of the various themes of other fate works, and even if you can certainly say it doesn't do some of it well it does keep people hooked. fgo is already 6-7 years into its lifespan so i think that everything that needs to be said about fgos problems have really already been fully said and discussed. unlike the accessibility of other vns in english fgo is easily accessible and thus all of its problems are a lot more transparent and more easily discussed (and at times even exaggerated i will say), so its not really a surprise when you think about it that many people get a bad impression of the rest of the fate series when only reading fgo and seeing its problems, since the other material is either unofficially translated or locked behind youtube playthroughs and beasts lair forum downloads. if you enjoy worldwide popular mobile game fate/grand order i promise you that you will enjoy other fate works and nasuverse just as much, likely more, and its worth it to seek them out. and if you just dont like fgo after the fact... i promise you that you'll still probably like the other vns of the series. fgo can only be really appreciated when you know the thematics its expanding on, and all of those come from the rest of the series. and look like. i can certainly understand the argument of fgo being bad as a story if fans are telling you to read a different story to then read fgo, like thats certainly an argument ill listen to. many fate works can stand on their own as stories and if fgo as a standalone story doesnt work for you and you dont want to read its extensive backlog of content just to understand fgo thats genuinely understandable. however, that in itself kind of fundamentally misunderstands the narrative that fgo is trying to make as a culmination of all the lore and thematics that its been building on for about two decades now, since again, fgo is ultimately a culmination of everything that came before it
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jemmo · 1 year
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also can i just say that now that we know what went down between jaewon and eunji, it makes her behaviour all the more understandable and all the more unforgiveable. bc she is compensating. she knows she did something bad and hurtful and the guilt of what she did makes her overcompensate in her behaviour with jaewon. she is both more flirty and pandering but also more demanding and needy and harsh, all to try and make up for what she did when the only way to start atoning for it is to be honest and admit it. instead, when jaewon breaks up with her, still thinking he doesnt know the truth of the matter, its almost like she gets offended. like he doesnt know what i did, and i keep telling him its not true, why would he do that? why doesnt he believe me, or trust me? yet she is the one that has already broken trust, she is the one lying. and its all the more reason for her to turn against jihyun, bc not only is jaewon moving on with someone else, not only does he represent what she lost, but he has this pure, innocent, honest air which is everything she’s not, and it makes her dislike him all the more bc she cannot avoid those things about herself. and it even makes jaewon returning to her more understandable, bc when he is self-sabotaging, when he does think the worst of himself, maybe he thinks this is all i deserve, a woman who cheats on me and lies to me and makes me feel like the bad guy, it all feeds in to him taking blame that doesnt belong to him. her whole thing is wanting to win, but this is not someone beating her, this is a loss she inflicted on herself and she cant deal with that. in a way, its like a twisted parallel of jaewon, the way their behaviour overcompensates for something they dont want to admit or accept, except jaewon needs to accept that he is blameless while eunji needs to accept blame. and i love that seeing this new light to her actions makes them no better, in fact it kind of makes them more horrid, but theyre horrid bc you understand where they’re coming from, and it makes it easier to see how she can go about becoming a better person. its like she’s humanised by us seeing the full extent of her wrongdoings, bc now she isnt some faceless evil, she’s a person who needs to learn how to treat people better and be willing to admit she isnt perfect. and i hope she does. 
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iwishf1wasreal · 2 months
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I'm new to F1 and have no idea why ppl hate Daniel and Max...what did both of them do?
first and foremost, welcome! i hope you're enjoying f1!
secondly...this is a lot of lore to squeeze into one post. i think most of the max hate started with the 2021 championship controversy. if you've seen DTS, its goes into it all but that caused a really big divide in f1. max has been called out by the mongolian government for using slurs on the radio and he didnt really have the best reaction. his gf, kelly piquet, is the daughter for former f1 driver nelson piquet, who had some pretty nasty racist things to say about lewis (tho max did say it was wrong to say them...but also defended nelson's character :/). i'm sure theres more but that's all i have off the top of my head.
as for daniel, i was a huge daniel fan. i put time and money into that little elf. then he did an interview with barstool sports that was that start of my disillusionment. he's always been pretty douchey-frat-boy-y with edgelord humor and obvious pandering to his male fans (despite probably having more women fans but i digress). in the interview, daniel makes a joke about women driving. extremely original material, we've never heard that in the 31 years since a woman last raced in formula one. he has a long history of making jokes like that--quite literally too many examples to put into one post. most recently, he publicly supported chrsitina horner after he was accused of harassment and said he felt for him. it just felt like such a slap in the face considering how hard it is to just be a FAN that's a woman around motorsport. getting sexually harassed at races or at work and spammed online by meninist losers isn't enough, the drivers feel they need to start shitting on us too. so, i still have a lot of frustration towards him because men ages 13-65 love daniel and when he acts like that, it only emboldens them to do it too. and ten times worse because they dont have a public image or brand to protect.
but its f1, there's always a reason to hate everyone. seriously, name any driver and they have something that makes you look at them a lil different. it is the sport of war crimes, tax evaison and crusty old europeans assholes.
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xumoonhao · 10 months
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@leigh-darling, this is the last time i will interact with you as youre so purposefully obtuse and just arguing with me for arguments sake and that is not worth my time further. i dont give a fuck if you reply to me beyond this; consider it yelling into the void because i will not be there to hear it or entertain your idiocy anymore.
first off, if you agree with 100% that newjeans is looked at with a pedophilic gaze, why is there even an argument? that is what my main post was about, and the fact that you took an issue with how i worded something tangential to the main point shows you dont really care about my main point. thats on you.
second: you DID purposefully take what i said the wrong way because you are the ONLY person who has a direct problem with my post. everyone else has taken it the way i meant it.
third: dont fucking talk down to me by calling me 'sweetie'. you are not my friend or someone i care about. dont refer to people you dont know as 'endearing' terms, you fucking freak.
fourth: i know their ceo is the problem. i didnt feel the need to mention her specifically in the post because i know EVERYONE knows she is the problem, but shes not the only problem. all the adults around these girls are the problem.
fifth: a group debuting does not mean they are 'very good'; not even close. companies as big as theirs will literally debut whoever the fuck they want regardless of skill level because they know damn well they can weather a group absolutely tanking: they have the money and resources that a groups debut failing is nothing to them. besides that, they'll promote a group to the moon and back even if they think a group is bad, because if you put a group out there enough at least a small group of people will start to follow them. talent to a big company is not as important as the potential at making money, no matter what they have to do in order to do it.
sixth: to be incredibly clear, i dont give a fuck who you personally know likes newjeans, oh my god. your entire family could adore newjeans and think their music is great and listen to the music with purest intentions on planet earth: I DO NOT GIVE. A FUCK. it doesnt matter what you personally think about newjeans, it doesnt matter what people you know think about newjeans because at the end of the day they are still being sexualized en masse by predatory men and their company is the thing enabling this. you thinking of them purely doesnt change the fact that most fans of them dont.
seventh: i didnt ignore that. i did clarify that i was perhaps a bit 'generalizing by saying the only reason fans like newjeans is because they're young', and then i went on to say that it ultimately doesnt matter because their group is being pandered to a different audience. and it doesnt matter what 'line' you were referring to as its a fucked up thing to say regardless, and simply not true.
eighth: i dont have to be respectful to you. i have been, but i dont have to be. besides this, i didnt lump anyone in with pedophiles because i didnt use that word before this post. if you feel lumped in with that, maybe you need to think about why you feel youd be included in that instead of being completely reactionary to something you took the wrong way??? idk, just personal opinion here but maybe think for, god, even just a second before posting some bullshit.
last point: i wasnt 'feigning contrition'; i was genuinely sorry for putting your nasty words on my dashboard for my followers and mutuals to see. dont assume you know anything about me or my feelings when you CLEARLY have no damn idea. good fucking BYE
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sneezemonster15 · 1 year
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Some people think they are being feminist by writing Sakura and Hinata out of character.
Fanfic writers being straight aside, I feel like there is a fear of being called mysogynist if the female characters are portrayed in any bad light so even queer writers write them ooc and it makes Sasuke and Naruto appear like assholes. Saw some writers tagging their fic "not for sakura or hinata fans" as if they are about to write the worst thing about those girls and its just those characters acting like they would in this specific situation.
Recently I saw some Sakura/SS stans tweeting about how writing fanfics where SNS cheat is problematic and disrespectful. As if gay people who have no choice but getting married to people they arent attracted to have any choice. Thats a real thing that happen irl and that doesnt make gay ppl assholes, just victims of society.
I have observed fandoms for a while and it feels like people use feminism as an excuse to dogpile on mlm shippers. They rarely (or never) call out mlf shippers who exhibit hatred for female characters they dont like.
Yes, that does seem to be the case.
Ever since I joined this fandom, I have felt whacked left and right by seeing what people understand by feminism and the way they regard homosexuality. It's like 20th century never happened. Like fandom was the last space I thought to be this backward, outdated and unwilling to learn.
I seriously doubt whether these SS and NH fans are adults. They don't sound like one. And if they are, I really don't know what kind of trauma they have been through or what kind of upbringing they have received to be this entitled, insensitive and violent. Like girl, chill. Or see a professional. Whatever works.
Yeah, I have heard that some writers write Sakura and Hinata as nice women because they are afraid of being called misogynists. Well. They need to learn to stand their ground. That would be their coming of age in the context lol. These ss and nh crazies would come after you no matter what you do, they don't have the capacity to be logical or discerning. You can't expect rationality or normal sensibilities from SS and NH stans, they are unhinged. No seriously, I am not kidding when I think some of them need to see a professional. Or get a credible confidante at least that can guide them properly. I am sorry but if they are the kind of people writers wanna please so as not to be attacked by them, they are living in fool's paradise. If those are the kind of people you set your bets off on, you are setting yourself up for failure. And wronging a lot of responsible and mature readers who decided to put their trust in you. Media is not an isolated medium, as its name suggests. You are accountable for what you put out there because it influences people, vulnerable, suggestible, impressionable, and naive people who would believe whatever is told to them. Especially in a fandom space that is populated by mainly very young people. Who aren't capable of introspection or critical evaluation. Spreading false ideas and all around ooc shit about Sakura and Hinata is not doing anyone a favor. Least to yourself, if you are serious about writing. Learn how to write your truth, learn how to be authentic. Develop your voice. This is your space to learn and evolve, stay true to yourself, and if you are pandering to stupid people, it's no one's fault but your own. Lol who gets paid for writing fanfics here? What is it or who is it that you represent huh? Who are you doing it for?
See the scope of damage you are causing by writing Sakura and Hinata as ooc, it has larger ramifications than just that. Recognize the kind of validation you give SS and NH stans by writing ooc shit, and how it backfires. You are encouraging misogyny, homophobia and heteronormativity yourself if you write them as ooc, plain and simple. The moment you write Sakura and Hinata as nice, empathetic characters, you are denigrating Naruto and Sasuke's characters and trivializing what they had to suffer through. Their world is a reflection of the real world, don't forget. If you write those two women as good, it's pretty clear you don't truly respect what queer communities have to go through in a conservative society, ie, if you consider yourself a person who puts your hand where your mouth is. Yes offence. Either you don't respect it or you don't get it but write dogshit anyway without doing any soul searching or research, neither of which is a comforting idea. And if you write it anyway because you just love the accolades so much, well shows your standards if you care for approval from strange people you have never seen, and who would fail spectacularly in the real world. Don't give anyone power over you who doesn't deserve it, least of all NH and SS stans. Respect yourself and gay narratives.
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skinmite · 5 months
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this post annoys me so much im spilling oil all over it and drowning it
the tweets are a joke in the first place and everyone in the notes are mocking women just bc they dont think women can joke. its not serious. thats why the word “funniest” is there.
women making jokes online arent to blame for men being the worst anyway and i love women making fun of men its good clean fun. on a serious note i think they Should have higher standards bc the reality is that they date literally anyone. men online are convinced they have super high standards but its just not true look at any straight couple lol
we absolutely dont have to make fun of women for making fun of men even if theyre tragically straight and cisgendie just let them have their fun its entertaining and playful and i cant get enough of it. learn to love a good roast and light up this spliff
ITS JOKES BABYYYYY LETS BE NORMALLLLL
im 100% sure the men on twitter already sent all the women on that post enough death threats we dont need to crosspost even if tumblr is so menless some of you are still pandering to them in a way that makes me go boooooooooo who giva shit
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kozykricket · 1 year
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this is gonna be a part 1 to a longer post - but like a lot of the minecraft community (at least the vocal Gamers on the Internet) are... very. extrinsically motivated. and they demand a lot from the game. I think they remember when they were young and felt the game had so much to do, when they were making the experiences themselves with their own creativity and now they expect everything to have a deep meaningful use. Frankly, I don't think things in minecraft need to be useful - I think most of the people on here can likely resonate with that. A mob simply being cute and not having practical use cases is nice. a new material thats mainly for decoration is nice See, I think. Mojang trying to pander to extrinsically motivated players who need a clear use... just leads to kinda awkward like. people get the wrong message. they get the message that mojang wants to make something with lots of uses and are failing at making it useful, when mojang just wants to add something thats... well, fun! and gives it a practical use where it makes sense (yes, copper is a great example) Of course, things can be given use over time, but I don't think pressure should be put on everything to be useful. I voted glow squid because generally speaking, stuff from votes doesn't go all that deep, its something that improves the world in a simple way by existing. are foxes useful? Nah, not really. So I thought... well, glow squids seem very fun to see, bioluminescence is cool. Didn't really care if they didnt have a use, in fact that made them better to me - a blank canvas where you can do anything with them Frankly though? I wish they didnt do ANYTHING with them. glowing signs... cmon, that couldve been done with glowstone dust. Same goes for shoehorned "uses" for the phantom. phantom membranes... well, I guess they're probably what let the phantom fly around... so i GUESS it makes sense to repair... the pair of bug wings from a dimension you dont find them in slow falling couldve just been from brewing feathers :/ but yknow, people dont like "useless" stuff being in the game (because they think mojang is lazy and bad game designers) people dont really get what the goal of minecraft is. anyways, on that note. allays are not better than other collection methods lmao but THEY ARE CUTE. I really wanted to just get this off my chest - I have more to say. but tl;dr is if we use the puddles/oceans method in terms of depth. people dont like seeing just. decorative little puddles? so mojang saysd okay this is a pond. but its a puddle. its totally fine that its a puddle, but they pretend it isnt just .... for what? to appease people who want everything to be useful? people say they miss old mc updates, and yknow what? yknow what i miss from them? when things weren't deeply designed, lol 1.20 is a great update so far, good blend of carefully designing stuff and also just. throwing random stuff in because why not.
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nightswithkookmin · 2 years
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also i find it incredibly odd that you think the only was a person can prove their adulthood is by singing about sex like 💀 teens have sex too you know? doesnt make them adults and there’s so many adults that dont have sex are they suddenly kids just because they don’t experience sexual attraction. also bts have tons of innuendos in their songs i dont really think they arent ‘allowed’ to do things. if they have a family friendly image maybe thats their own conscious decision?
Wow... thats what you took away from my post? you really have a simplistic understanding of text i see.
All I said is I want BTS to make mature music and sing about adult stuff like love lust desire. To drift away from the boy band image into a man band. And you are gonna reduce that sentiment into a discussion over sex??
Why though? I don't understand. I think you are more intelligent than this and can do better to strike a debate. This is not something we should be debating over. It's embarrassing.
BTS been sang about sex and I'm one of the people who criticized them for sexually objectifying women and for being exploited as teens. So if its sex I want them to sing about like you say. They've done that already.
"...the only way a person can prove their adulthood is by singing about sex."
I never said that. Sorry. Next.
" Teens have sex too."
Great. Great logic. I will be sure to tell Namjoon that. You make it sound like there's no point in him breaking off of the group in pursuit of this maturity he speaks off because teens can be mature too and he can gain that maturity while still living together with six adult roommates. There's no point in him weaning off at all then. Smh.
And for a man who wrote expensive girl seems he's all bout matured since sex is the only marker of adulthood. Get the fuck outta here.
If you've ever listened to BTS songs beyoung their recent highschool musical permission to dance, they do talk about and have always talked about sex and lust and love in their music.
Like JM says, it was weird when they did those themes as teens but now it feels right. So if even as teens they were doing "adult themed stuff" passing paper to each other, kissing eachother, doing homoerotic stuff from day one- why in God's name would you reduce this discussion of wanting more mature music from them to sex???
Wow. Just. wow.
The lengths you people will go to.
I hear you on what you are saying about sex. But that's not what I mean when I say I want more adult matured lyrics from them.
i want whatever Namjoon feels he has to say but isn't suited for the lyricism of BTS.
I want whatever matured version of Namjoon he is on a quest to find.
No, I do not want a song about how the best is yet to come and how I don't need permission to dance.
A with you is nice and fits into my theme of mature songs. Still with you is great too. Abyss fantastic. I play sweetnight and all Taehyung's playlist before bed. Jimin's playlist is equally a goldmine. In the early mornings you just just need that in the shower, while driving to work. That's maturity.
What that has got to do with sex I don't know but it's just like your kind to take things out of context and hang on random words and make a whole ass debate about it.
I've always advocated for a mature BTS. For them to drift from pop and delve into the recesses of the soul and human experiences which is something they used to do untill they started pandering to mainstream media and trying to go viral than hit.
"If they have a family friendly image thats their decision." Did you listen to Namjoon at all?? What the fuck is this?? Lol
Well if its their decision and they love it so much i don't know what Namjoon's soliloquy in that live was about then. When i say you seem out of touch chilee it's true.
Like Namjoon said, he has no idea what the group stands for now- if everything they did is their choice why he complaining feeling lost??
Never mind that he's pointed out over and over how his lyrics get shoved to the side sometimes and recently very often- their choice... yeaa.... you have no idea what yoi talking about. Like at all. Damn.
Their choice... yet Jungkook said they went with this color when I thought that color was better. Their choice.... yet sometimes the songs they perform are written by someone else entirely.
For someone who claim you have an understanding of that live, the fuck are you actually talking about here??
if their songs are their choices, well then their choices have led them here where some of them are feeling lost and like their suffocating. They have themselves to blame per your logic then cos they've done this to themselves 😴
I don't see the point in your ask.
Sex is not a sign of maturity I agree. But it is a sign of adulthood in many cultures. Teens may not be as mature but they are considered young adults too and are legally allowed to do certain adult stuff including sex if they meet the consenting threshold in a jurisdiction.
I don't think I've ever said or implied that the only way one can prove their adulthood is by singing about sex. That's unnecessarily over generalizing and deliberately reducing my words into absurdity in order to ridicule it. You don't have to do that.
What you are doing is addressing your own understanding of my words and not my words themselves.
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Its the same conversation we have as a fandom about why giving Din a love interest is pandering and harmful to the shows focus and tone.
In the orignal game (i didnt play the remaster) it was basically up to player interpretation as to what you thought Joel and Tess's past was to the other beacuse it didnt matter. Tess's fate doesn't have less impact if she and Joel were never a thing. Thats the point. No matter who you are to Joel he sees loss in all of them.
I wonder how much is straight true or how much is just actress interpretation that she blabbed in a now pulled interview.
I get people like Tess, but I like Tess as her own thing beacuse her not being a love interest is more powerful for a death. Beacuse it shows you that Joel keeps losing more then just what he did at the beginning. He loses everyone everywhere and its why getting attached to Ellie is extra terrifying.
Its not just the fear of past trauma its the looming fear of 'this happens to everyone i know'.
I also never read romance in that past. Both of them, especially Joel are incredibly jaded and disconnected. Theyre friends and companions but I dont think romance was something Joel truly explored or felt for most of the time skip. Hes not a man who in that kind of pain would find romance comforting.
Shippers can be happy thats fine, but looking at it critcally from a narrative and thematic structure. Love interest Tess is a bad move and pandering.
Its why Joel romance is in fanfiction. We can create that harmony where love is possible again for Joel because we arent following a rigid demanding plotred story. Were fantasizing about the soft and the good.
The main story for The Last of Us has zero room for Joel romance. Its the wrong place for it, and I hope it was a case of actress foot in mouth syndrome trying to push her own interpretation of a character dynamic.
I don't need people telling me how to interpret things they didn't need to explore. If it was important to establish firmly in the first place they would havr.
Anyway this is my anti Joel/Tess ted talk good night
Yeah all this thank you so much for saying it so eloquently because I’m still sitting here baffled I got called misogynistic for saying a woman who in the source material is not a romantic interest being turned into a love interest is shitty for the character and the story. Because, that feels like textbook misogyny to me lol.
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ok but can we seriously talk about how effed up things have gotten that people are actually being arrested for saying swears? like they aren’t that bad that peoples lives should be ruined over them…saying swears is a human right imo…
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no it’s literally not? why do you need to swear its literally vulgar and rude. how is not being able to say horrible words a human rights violation? Literally unalive yourself op.
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thats not the point of the post you idiot. of course nobody here is saying that saying swears is moral or justifiable. people who say swears like **** and **** should all be unalived immediately, what op is saying is that the oppressive right wing government is trying to control our minds using sanitatized shows like steven universe that have secret hidden homophobic messages so that they can have a perfect word and make us do their bidding like were all sims! its not about the swearing, god, get some reading comreheion. compernmientoln. copresenion. whatever I dont have to pander to this literate-normative society.
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prev obviously doesnt live in the US because saying g** is literally illegal too. “boo hoo we cant ssy swears anymore :(“ try living in the states for one day? honestly making a post like this is so insensitive like. did anyone here even consider that its harder for me? did you even remember america when you were making this post? non-americans are so selfish.
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pretty sure op is actually referencing when in 2036 over half the population of america all collectively shouted “****” in protest and then a bunch of people briefly went to jail? obviously op is opposing the new laws theyre only saying that that one time in america was pretty messed up…
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WHAT!?! what are you all talking about!?! I am literally word for word saying that yes!!! I think people should be able to swear!!! why not?
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lol. “why not” ha. are you actually that stupid op? do you even understand the extend of the damage that swearing has done? my grandma literally UNALIVED herself because somebody sweared infront of her. how can you be so brain unalive that you cant see the harm of words that were literally INVENTED to be bad?
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killed.
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…what?
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not unalived. killed.
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excuse you? this is the sort of disgusting stuff that comes from opposing the law. it starts with wanting to swear and in less than five seconds op is BLANTANLY advocating for unaliving people
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STOP SAYING UNALIVED IM LOSING MY MIND. KILL. DEATH
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are we just going to ignore the absolutely insane rant at the beginning of this post or…??
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if you reblogged a post with vulgar language like this you’re actually part of the problem. block and unfollow me.
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you literally just reblogged it fuck off
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lol op got unalived by tumblr RIP BOZO
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BREAKING!! EVERYONE REBLOG THIS VERSION OF THE POST OR ELSE IM BLOCKING YOU!!! NEW LAW JUST DROPPED THAT PROPOSES BANNING LEARNING HOW TO READ FOR KIDS 10 AND YOUNGER!! EVERYONE CALL THEIR REPRESENTATIVES!!!!!!!
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im killingmyself for real this time
#tw s****** #illprobably get banned again for this but meh i want to add another digit to my name anyways #DONT check the notes btw lgbterfs (lgbt exclusionary radical feminists) found this post :( #also whats up with that guy who ships the soccer players lol i read some of his fics and its just like all really erotic dentist visits #im kinda into it
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— i just sent an anon (asking a question about gavin), but im writing this immediately after cuz i had another thing that i forgot to add, apologies for sending messages back to back, and in advance for how long this is going to be. Please dont feel obligated to respond LMAO im just passionate about this— i am SO happy you pointed out Sam losing his personality i thought i was insane. Hes just,, mild david now? Every video of his that has come out since… i dont know, maybe his hbw? Ive noticed this. I think the intention was for sam and david to develop and be more soft with their listeners as time when on, which… did happen, but now theyre like… the same guy to me. Maybe thats just me. I miss them being different flavors of grumpy (david being an asshole workaholic and sam being distrusting and reserved, both of them really caring but expressing it differently). Sams whole punchline now is that hes old (hes a singular year older than vincent.) and a cowboy (he has a southern accent 😱). Its so frustrating cuz sam is my favorite character and i like… fixate on characters specifically and cant really stop it so im so acutely aware of his personality going away while still trying my best to grasp at any semblance of him i can. And dont get me started on his BA………. I thought it was cute and written pretty accurately until the nsfw started. It started so suddenly. Like… “oh you verbally expressed that you love me? After so long of not being able to be vulnerable with anyone you let me in? Ok bone time” WHY??? … ok thats all ive got or i wont stop thank you stranger on the internet for listening, apologies for the rant
I’m going to answer this separately since this is on a different topic.
No need to apologize for the rant. Sam was also one of my favorite characters only to become my least favorite after the reduction of his personality to “old cowboy” and a hyper-devotion to his YA protagonist partner. I haven’t actually listened to any of Sam’s audios in a while so I don’t know the depths of terrible they reach now. I didn’t listen to the BA preview either but I do remember it was one of the few things the fandom got rightfully riled up about. Sam was undoubtedly one of the characters Redacted started writing to completely pander to the fandom majority, and since the fandom majority is mentally 14, we can only expect horrible writing.
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While you already mention troops that you dislike, be the considered "fanficy" or not, which one specifically are they? And I dont mean broader things like the author being bigoted or ignorant
Maybe "trope" wasn't accurate.
And it's not like I'm not guilty of these behaviors in my own writing or just imagining how a story could unfold differently.
But one things I think is fanfic-y in a bad way: overdoing it on worldbuilding.
I love worldbuilding. I love creating these back stories behind how cities were put together, the history of a place or a person, or how whatever you add to a story that is in that story but not in our world (superpowers, new technologies) altered how those places developed and how that history unfolded.
Then there is worldbuilding that drags a story to a halt--because it's no longer about the plot or the characters.
I could point to the various iterations of the Archie Sonic the Hedgehog comics--and I don't just mean the pre-Ian Flynn stuff, because I think Flynn is guilty, but in a different way, of forcing so much worldbuilding and pre-plotting for future stories instead of just giving us those future stories. It's not like One Piece where you still get a good story--even as it is setting up three to four more stories in the future.
But the more recent problem with worldbuilding has been My Hero Academia.
It's not as if every time the franchise has tried to worldbuild that it has been bad. A good example of worldbuilding is the spinoff series, My Hero Academia: Vigilantes, which slowed down the plot to naturally come off of a string of recent stories all about giant villains, before naturally easing into some worldbuilding details that shows the aftermath of those fights, and how those giant people now are trying to make lives for themselves--but, due to their large size, lack the infrastructure they need to survive. Any housing that can accommodate them is not conveniently located: it's a NIMBY, something the neighbors don't want near them, so giant people are kept to the outskirts of town, in industrialized areas, without access to most public transportation, groceries, and other amenities that are vital to living. And the problems these giants face lead to new problems that then lead to new stories that impact where the plot of the entire series goes next. It's not a tangent into an unrelated story: it is still building on the main story itself. That is great worldbuilding.
Then My Hero Academia, in its latest arc, takes so much about being giant, or animalistic, or a mutant or heteromorph, and throws in so much back story and new history all at once. I'm not saying any of the information provided necessarily conflicts with pre-established canon; if anything, MHA is finally building on stuff already tackled in Vigilantes. And it's not as if the back stories to Shoji and Koda come out of nowhere and are not a natural fit: they do get revealed in a natural enough manner that I enjoy the revelations. But stopping the story in its tracks to toss in some random details is inartful.
It's like when Star Wars or Star Trek mention something that was just a placeholder (so that the character doesn't say "that place," "that person," "that event" but actually names a proper noun)--only to shoot themselves in the foot because now the fans want an entire encyclopedic entry about what Jedha is, what the Clone Wars were, who Boba Fett was.
Sometimes a really skilled writer takes that name and conjures up a really good story that, on its own, works--and that should be the standard: if you didn't need to see any other Wars or Trek, does this new story work? Or is it just to answer a question no one ever asked? It's how you overburden a film like Solo with so many mythology gags that it comes off as pandering.
Heck, Greg Weisman (inadvertently?) even did a gag around this when having a future iteration of Brooklyn in Gargoyles have to hastily explain away some detail by saying "Clone Wars," with little intention on explaining what that was. It was a joke--you quickly make up a fake name, then move on. It was a meta joke about how much of the lore in these series really comes down to, "A creator just needed a name for a thing to keep the story moving, gave the thing a name, and moved on, not interested in developing the thing further."
Not that Weisman hasn't gotten my rancour up with some fanfic-y things, too. I love Spectacular Spider-man--but sometimes the coincidences of who knows who and how one thing leads to another thing are too convenient. Yes, this is fiction, you are making an artifice to make the plot progress and the characters progress--but it stands out as too coincidental. I'm guilty of this in my writing, too: sometimes you want the story to be neater and let one thing lead to another, even if that's not how it was in the original. Weisman did that with Spider-man: he took disparate details in the comics, that Stan Lee, Steve Ditko, and others didn't intend to ever connect up, and he made them connect up--to the point that it felt force rather than, forgive how repetitive and unspecific this word is, natural.
(That lack of a natural fit is also why the connection between Fire Force and Soul Eater still remains so fanfic-y to me: there is so much of the one that doesn't match the other, in terms of history, tone, geopolitical divisions, or pre-established canon. I know, "canon is secondary to plot"--but when the new story you tell not only defies canon, but defies logic, its own message, the message of the other story you are linking it to, and does disservice to your characters, then congratulations, now it's not only forced and fanfic-y, it just sucks.)
And that convenience problem persists with another thing Greg Weisman worked on, Young Justice--as does another fanfic-y thing that can get bothersome: the need to pair up everyone. And don't say, "They're teenagers, of course they hook up!" Aromantic, asexual, or just "not the right time": not every teen hooks up, not every person is interested in finding someone or will find someone.
I imagine some of this is due to changes in demographics and network: Cartoon Network evidently was not fine with a same sex relationship, but once you have an older audience and are now a primarily streaming series, you can have Kaldur be bi/pansexual. And it's not like there aren't stories in the original comics of the characters dating...which is why it is so bizarre the choices made. It seems less like adapting a work and more like making your own fanfiction: "What if Superboy and Miss Martian were instead an item?" It was allowing the plot to do more of the work--as if Weisman really wanted that pairing to happen to perpetuate a lot of the plot--but I would be lying if I didn't say it fit those two characters, too, or at least this version of those two characters--two characters who don't feel like they are a complete person of any species or racialized identity, who don't feel like they fit in, but who accept the other for who they really are, however they look or whatever their origin.
Then again, for how much I decry fanfic-y stuff, there are places where I like the too-convenient, too-clean linking up of everything. For example, Ninja Turtles 2003 did a pretty good job of linking up everything--because it lent more weight to what unfolded, and metatextually was a brilliant way to get around censorship. You want to behead the Shredder but you know 4Kids won't let you? Then you make things way too convenient so that you can get away with Shredder being beheaded without killing him. You want the turtles' origin to tie into the Shredder's, even though that's not how it worked in the comics? You go ahead and connect it, have three out of your four turtles literally laugh at that idea--then have the fourth one point out how that is not only fated but means that their existence is owed to a horrible person who killed so many just for these four to exist as they are now--and suddenly that moment of laughing at how bad the writing was turns into a moment of realizing how such a connection can pose an existential crisis. That is excellent writing: you do the cheat, acknowledge it's a cheat--then take it completely seriously so that you show the audience why you did this cheat for the sake of making that audience feel something.
In other words, something is fanfic-y when the artifice seems obvious--when it seems obvious how the author was doing all of this to get the plot to unfold exactly how they wanted it to, even if it makes no sense--while the best parts of fan fiction, and hence of fiction writing overall, is when the details don't come across as something the author did but just something in the story that naturally unfolded as it should.
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Do you think that Narumitsu is queerbaiting?
This is kind of a difficult question to answer because I think whether or not something is queerbait depends really heavily on the intent of the writers. A lot of the big picture stuff about narumitsu was a result of kumiko suekanes feedback/suggestions (I believe it was her idea to both make edgeworth phoenixs age as he was originally much older, and for them to have some sort of pre existing connection, because she thought they needed to be peers with history for people to get properly invested in their story. Which I agree with!) Suekane drew yaoi doujinshi so I don't think it's impossible or even unlikely that she was intentionally playing into more romantic character tension there. but she's not a writer ever! Shu Takumi is responsible for all of the trilogy writing and I dont think he was ever even a little bit trying to play into the desires of narumitsu shippers.
If memory serves I think he was like, at least aware that some people saw phoenix and edgeworth romantically but I don't think that in any way influenced the way he wrote his characters. It just does not strike me as the man's style, from everything I've read. Hes not immune to fan feedback (I believe some pretty big stuff in dgs2 was a result of fan reception of dgs1) but I have just really never gotten the impression from anything that takumi is interested in pandering to his audience.
I think he's like hirohiko araki where he just keeps writing these insanely charged feeling relationships between men without the question of whether or not they're kinda gay literally ever crossing his mind. Ace attorney as a franchise is also very devoid of any current romantic relationships for members of its main cast. The series is so unconcerned with romance as something in most of these characters lives that I think it'd be hard to make them date each other in a way that didn't feel strange even if you were going to make them gay.
However, past the trilogy, I think you'd be safe to call it queerbaiting. There's literally no reason for edgeworth to keep showing up like he does other than to roll into town, have some pandery conversations with phoenix, and then let the plot keep chugging along. Capcom knows that that character dynamic is a huge part of what has kept their franchise relevant for the past 20 years. Shu takumi was adamant that phoenixs story was done after tnt- he only put him in aa4 because he was made to. Aai2 cleanly tied up edgworths arc. There's nothing left to do with these characters other than parade them around to be like "hey, remember these guys? Now they're calling each other daddy in court" or whatever. And to me that's bait.
But make no mistake I am taking this bait. Phoenix calling edgeworth daddy in court lives on in my heart as a triumph. Queerbait really isn't the end of the world to me, and I think the critical thing with recognizing queerbait isn't to try and blacklist franchises for this crime, but rather to make you aware of what expectations you should have going in. Knowing when something is queerbait vs queer coding vs textually queer vs none of those things but you could do a meaningful queer reading of it if you wanted to is REALLY important. There aren't hard lines between these concepts but a lot of fan spaces fail to meaningfully distinguish between them at all and you end up with a lot of bizarre and incoherent critical analysis as a result.
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