#godtier gamzee

[pitchrom]

im cooking as we speak

#gamzee makara #gamzee #fanart #gamzee makara fanart #introject art #gamzee introj #homestuck #godtier gamzee #sketch

[nuctua-larc]

And now...the highbloods! The trolls are complete >:)

Beta Kids ->

Lowblood Trolls ->

Alpha Kids ->

#homestuck #godtier #redesign #terezi pyrope #vriska serket #equius zahhak #gamzee makara #eridan ampora #feferi peixes #so very looking forword to drawing dirk in the prince fit #the hype is unreal i NEED him in those boots

[grapefaygodude69]

TC: bRoThEr Ai ErIdAn SoMeTiMeS hAs ThE gReAtEsT mOtHerFuCkInG iDeAs

day 48

#homestuck #gamzee makara #god tier #cosplay #eridan ampora #eridan cosplay #digital art #gamzee #daily post #art #homestuck fandom #homestuck gamzee #gamzee fanart #ask eridan #cursed #homestuck cosplay #honk #juggalo #bard of rage #homestuck godtier #homestuck art #homestuck fanart #fanart #hs fanart

[beetlethebug]

this one is dedicated to this vriska anon. what did you mean. you literally keep me up at night.

#vriska anon you are a kankri kinnie (derogatory) in my gut #anyway my tumblr beef aside #aragam nation we are RISING #and by rising i mean i'm currently inspired and they on the brain #v loosely inspired by the 700 club by nicole dollinger #it's on my aragam playlist #aradia megido x gamzee makara #gamzee makara #gamzee makara x aradia megido #aradia megido #as is her right i feel like aradia is always godtier in my art #homestuck #homestuck fanart #fanart #my art

[nullifier]

ok imagine theyre at a sleepover & its pajama time

#homestuck #karkat vantas #vriska serket #terezi pyrope #kanaya maryam #aradia megido #nepeta leijon #eridan ampora #gamzee makara #sollux captor #equius zahhak #feferi peixes #tavros nitram #this took NINE DAYS I'm done forever #I was like 'youre all fucked if anyone thinks im gonna color this' & then I colored it anyway [rudimentarily] #i can definitely tell I accidentally changed line opacity half way through but whatever #this is the only lineup I've done & the only ine I'll ever do where their godtier outfits r like actual pajamas #i was tired when I came up with it. YK #no facepaint no glasses cause who wears that to bed #Explode

[mmmmalo]

hey! i reread those posts on death/rebirth and page transition. really interesting stuff, but it kind of left me wondering about how gamzee fits into it given that his thing is not dying. he doesnt die when terezi stabs him and it even becomes a gag when caliborn shoots him and he doesnt die. most interestingly, he wears a fake godtier costume - as if hes trying to claim rebirth without dying first. he also survives all the way to caliborn and callies time, which is a distant future earth. my initial thoughts are something about stagnancy and refusing to change, but i wanted to know your thoughts in the matter!

I dunno tbh. Gamzee's first and final interaction with the command arrow motif afaik is shooting Equius's knee and thereby enacting the command "kneel" -- I'm not sure the paradigm has much to offer towards enhancing our understanding of his relationship with death.

I did however reread the Can't Keep Down the Clown segment before replying to this and was delighted to discover that Gamzee gives Hussie a little thumbs up on page 5494, seemingly out of gratitude for playing the elevator music to halt Caliborn's beatdown. Clown collusion

#homestuck commentary #im also not quite on board with godtiering as maturity #though the potential parallel between godtier gamzee and hulked out caliborn is tempting #im generally suspicious of Maturity as a narrative ideal #and the standards by which people are deemed incapable of attaining it #is the main thing

[selamat-linting]

this might be weird but i think most of my blorbos would be a juggalo if given the chance

#i mean seriouslt #taylor hebert would channel all of her repressed anger before being a cape by listening to icp #she would do it #harry du bois would enjoy the faygo-splosion in their concerts and their tendency to be dramatic and use face paints #also if juggalos arent a thing in homestuck #i think godtier aradia would enjoy how morbid icps songs can be without taking themselves too seriously #gamzee is already a juggalo lol #also #you cannot change my mind on this : #leon s kennedy would enjoy dad rock but he also would jam to icp's how many times and cried in his car a little #LMAO #textposts #posts to keep the property value low

[salamancers]

just found an old note on my phone w ideas about who different genshin characters should cosplay

noteworthy examples:

bennett as finn the human, razor as jake the dog

yae miko as porrim, raiden ei as kankri

albedo and his siblings as different daves, klee as baby dave (bonus points if alice is with them as bro)

venti as mom lalonde

#bennett and razor were the only non-hs cosplays on the list #no wait thats a lie i also thought kaeya should cosplay marshall lee for some reason..? #the fact that the list is almost all pair/group cosplays really hammers home that i like when characters bounce off of each other lol #also. cosplays i was too weak to write in the main post. #thoma as jane crocker and ayato as gamzee (and it was specified as in his fake godtier w a codpiece) #not the text post tumblr deserves

[meraki-sunset]

In the au with the different spritefusions (Vrita, Equdan, Haleri, Tavlux) what would be the davepeta/jasperose equivalents?

Oooooooooooooooooh let me see.

Okay so in canon, the alpha session pre scratch has 4 kernels and the 6 elements thrown at them are 6 people. 5 trolls and an AI. Resulting in Arquius, Tavris, Erisol and Fefeta, all of which die in their timeline in diferent ways

Now for the diferent sprite fusion you're talking about, i used the exact same people from canon, but mixed them in a diferent order. Creating Haleri, Vrieta, Tavlux and Equdan. You can find the post about them HERE

Who most likely didn't exploded and followed Davesprite and Nanna to John's planet and survived te timeline's errasure.

Pic fo their Godtiers just for fun.

Now, Davepeta and Jasprose come from Post-Retcon, which means the 6 elements conforming the sprites are diferent this time around, forming, not only Jasprosesprite^2 and Davepetasprite^2, but also GcaTavrosprite and Arquiusprite (again).

SO! all i need to do is pick all the canon people/creatures from the Post-Retcon Sprites and mix them in a diferent way. Like this!

Giving us as a result something like this

The fussion of Davesprite and Lil Hal, ultimate self and ultimate Strider, would most likely romantically pursue canon Jade, like Davepeta did in homestuck, but more successfully. Also be an amazing sword master due to the knowledge from all timelines.

I mean, it would just be Cat-Equius, doesn't have the cool character develompent that Arquius had, but has nice guardian powers and he's not alergic to himself. Plus he's a cat like his moirail Nepeta

Oh boy, Tavrospersprite^2 has by default achieved ultimate self and is afraid of nothing, because he has knowledge of all Tavros and has learned all their lessons in a second. Will call Vriska a bitch and proceed to kiss Gamzee in one breath, to inmedialty go fight some villain and disappear like a Cheshire cat (isn't alergic to himself because he now knows it's in his head)

RosepetaSprite is a chill gal, and now has the habilities of drawing and writing, making her the ultimate autor. She's a little heartbroken about not being able to be with Kanaya or Karkat, because this timeline's Rose and Dave are dating them, but she won't let that bring her down

Ironically Rosepeta is now conected to the other three sprites. Tavros having the memories of her cat and guide, Equius being her moirail and Davar being a fussion of a copy of her father and of her doomed brother who wanted to see her again. She has some heavy back-up now.

#homestuck #homestuck au #fusion #homestuck fusion #AU #sprite fusion

[cure-typhoon]

what animal do u associate to each kid or troll. like u see this animal and r like yup thats [blank].

HMMM okey theres like certain animals the characters are already established as, but i dont totally agree with all of them

Beta kids and Alpha Kids:

June and Jane - Okey everyone says bunny for June and i understand why but idk I preffer a cameleon or a lizard and the bunny for Jane or maybe a bull for her, yeah i think that fits

Rose and Roxy - Yeah yeah theyre cat people and whatever but i always imagined as Roxy as a Fox and Rose as an owl lol or a black puma or like those scotish round cats

Dave and Dirk: Dave is those little birds that i see around where i live (sparrows?) and Dirk is a peacock

Jade and Jake - I dont have any creative one for Jade, i mean she is totally a dog but also a wolf or a coyote and Jake HMMMMM hyena (dont ask idk why) or like....parrot or white cockatoo

Beta Trolls and Alpha Trolls:

Karkat and Kankri: crabs, like there has never been a more crab character than karkat, he is a king crab, spiky boi. kankri is a spider crab

Aradia and Damara: Bighorn sheeps for both but also this one for Godtier Aradia

Tavros and Rufioh: Buffalos

Sollux and Mituna: why bees, like i get it but whyy. they are this

Nepeta and Meulin: Nepeta is a Tiger and Meulin is a Lion

Kanaya and Porrim: the fucking fluffiest moth i cant recall the name and Porrim is a moon moth

Terezi and Latula: Dragonfly for both of them

Vriska and Aranea: IM NOT LOOKING FOR SPECIFIC SPIDERS theyre both wolf to me, well Vriska is a Wolf and Aranea is a Jackal

Equius and Horuss: this fuckers

Gamzee and Kurloz: EDIT BECAUSE I FORGOT ABOUT THEM bdkadn

They're both clownfish no i won't apologize

Eridan and Cronus: Cronus is an electric eel and Eridan is a whale or a dolphin, maybe a pelican

Feferi and Meenah: Feferi is a jellyfish and Meenah is a Mantaray

#homestuck #beta kids #beta trolls #alpha kids #alpha trolls #fuck i have to tag everyone #june egbert #rose lalonde #dave strider #jade harley #jane crocker #roxy lalonde #dirk strider #jake english #karkat vantas #aradia megido #tavros nitram #sollux captor #okey im too lazy fuck it

[caligvlasaqvarivm]

You might’ve already got this before, and I’m asking this in genuinely good faith.

Your essay was very interesting, and convinced me of Erikar as a ship reading. I also really enjoyed your dissection of Eridan as a very honest person drawn into destructive behavior. It very much lines up with his status as a Prince of Hope! One who destroys conviction/belief through conviction/belief.

What confused me was your insistence on the hidden hand of the author. Death of the Author and all that, what’s implied in the text can be taken on its own separate from commentary but you seem to be doing an autopsy— the text implies [this] so *Hussie* must have intended for [this] and then tried to cover it up. If they genuinely thought it was a better ending, why not do it? Why the secrecy, why the feints? I think it’s a little conspiracy-brained to insist on a secret “better ending” that we don’t have author’s word or drafts on.

I’m also a little drifted on your frustration with the deaths of the trolls? You write that the theme of Homestuck— a standard coming-of-age story, a reckoning with society and the exit from youth— is undercut by the deaths of the trolls, because that means they *had* to die, in *punishment*. I disagree. Their deaths are tragic, not just.

Homestuck has a lot of methods of revival, the choice to (for the most part) perma-kill some characters (the trolls for one, and then AR, WQ, and WK) is a deliberate choice to make death mean something. If dying doesn’t mean anything, what are the narrative stakes? Murderstuck marks Gamzee as a threat, Eridan as a tragedy. The deaths there are meant. To be sad. To demonstrate that sometimes kids don’t get to grow up, that sometimes the society they live in cuts them down.

Homestuck is a sad story at times! It doesn’t need an ending where everyone gets to live to keep its coming-of-age conclusion.

I hope this made sense. I’m not trying to attack you, I’m just skeptical of some of your points. I hope you go on to do more analysis in the future!

If you want to believe that, go ahead 👍 again, arguing my points on that front would require its own entire essay, lol, so I'm not really planning to do that as the answer to an ask. The only thing I really want to say here is that while Homestuck is often sad, as you say, its underlying tone is unwaveringly hopeful right up until Game Over/the Retcon, and even kind of beyond that. If you prefer a sad story, then you can have a sad story, but it's just not a reading consistent (to me) with the entire rest of what Homestuck is.

For example, the whole narrative grapples with the debate of predestination vs. free will. Do things happen in Homestuck because they have to, or because characters are making choices? But with the introduction of John's retcon powers, it lands firmly in the "free will" side of the debate: the retcon powers outright defy the power of stable time loops - a reflection of how Breath is associated with freedom and choice. This is the optimistic option.

Another thing the narrative grapples with is the realness vs. fakeness of magic. I don't think it's hard to argue that between LE's "evil wizard" status and Godtier!Calliope's wand-induced black hole that the arrow falls firmly in the realm of magic being undeniably real. This is the optimistic option (and yet another narrative element that Eridan is extremely relevant to).

Moreover, even post-Retcon, there are elements that are kept that soften the tragedy already present in the story - for example, the concept of the Ultimate Self, and the implication that all surviving characters will eventually achieve it, takes the edge off all their doomed and dead counterparts, who won't actually be relegated to double death in the dream bubbles, since in a way, they'll live on through their alpha counterparts. It turns those sacrifices from bitter to bittersweet, and serves as a counterpoint to common takes like John being sad that he doesn't know the version of his friends that exist post-Retcon. The inclusion of it in the post-Retcon story, even with its botched delivery, says to me that Homestuck is still intended to be optimistic at its core, even with the extreme Giving Up that Hussie did.

And let's not forget how Calliope gets to come back to life, no strings attached, and that her stated purpose is only to live. Up to the end, the tone is that of HOPE, and I think there's no mistake that HOPE is supposed to be what defeats LE.

As I said in replies on that post, as an artist, I just can't imagine spending literal years, and literally a million words and thousands of images, writing something that's so thematically and tonally consistent, only to hard swerve right at the end, without extenuating circumstances.

And the thing is, there WERE extenuating circumstances, and they're fairly well-documented.

The kickstarter got funded, and while the story is muddled, we know the production of the game was extremely troubled, and Hussie was having difficulty being a project lead for that while also grappling with everything else. Everything else being, of course, an ever-increasing number of irons in the fire - more third-party artists he had to commission and manage, more merchandise he had to be on top of, bigger updates to sate the demands of the fanbase.

Which, speaking of, was infamously one of the most awful and toxic fanbases to ever exist, and one that Hussie has deliberately attempted to distance himself from since. I can't imagine the kind of daily abuse, harassment, callouts, and worse that Hussie had to endure as Homestuck's creator during the fandom's peak years. I don't blame him at all for turning against them.

Therefore, given the way the tone and themes hard swerve, the way several characters get bent entirely out of shape (you're telling me Karkat had several means before him of bringing his dead friends back and WOULDN'T SAY ANYTHING???), the way several plot threads are simply left dangling in the air, and the way some characters reach really weird and unpleasant conclusions (davepeta, gcatavrosprite), I think it's actually LESS reasonable to assume that the ending we got was the original plan. Hussie saw that to do the ending he wanted to do back in act 4, he'd need to write for a year, maybe two years more, and then looked at his mounting stress and pressure, and looked at the fanbase he'd come to hate, and just went "nope." And I can't even really blame him for it, lol. In his position I'd probably do the same.

Also, please don't mistake "the deaths are undone" for "the deaths will not have mattered" - I think there's a reason that the game over timeline characters still exist post-Retcon. Their arcs don't end with their deaths, and their failures are weights on them that must be narratively resolved - I believe that they go on to be the ones to defeat LE, although I have much less evidence to support this. It just makes narrative sense to me - the post-retcon team focuses down the Felt, various Jack Noirs, and the Condesce - the latter of which is their final boss, as the ultimate representation of the shitty society they're doing away with on their path to creating a new one.

Meanwhile, the dead and "irrelevant" versions of the characters, the ones who grappled with and were harmed the most by what LE represents - immaturity, selfishness, and cruelty - go on to band together after death, and defeat him in the bubbles, a culmination of their vengeance for the havoc he wreaked. And with him being destroyed in the bubbles by the dead and irrelevant, symbolically, he will be rendered nothing more than a bad dream for the waking, relevant, and alive.

Thus Gamzee is still an antagonist, although it becomes (Gamzee) and (Equius) who go on to form LE. Those deaths and those failures still matter, they still happen, they still have narrative weight. Even without the Game Over versions of the characters still existing and still being important, the decision to welcome antagonists like Gamzee and Eridan back into the fold is rendered more complex and more significant BECAUSE we've seen how badly they can go.

The speech originally given by post-Retcon Vriska to (Vriska) is also, to me, a weird artifact of this hypothetical original ending - as it exists within the actual comic, it's said by the wrong person to the wrong person - Vriska with her character development reset to a (Vriska) who's had her characterization destroyed in order to make the first Vriska seem more right. I think originally, it would've come from (Karkat) to Meenah, the latter of which being the one whose idea it was to fuck off with the treasure, and who caused the Beforus team's worst problems, and who has a track record of fucking off whenever she's tasked with taking responsibility. Thus, it would serve as a conclusion to Meenah and Karkat's arc, as well as Game Over Sadkat's arc specifically, would convince Vriska to go with him, and would give Meenah some narrative commeuppance, which would kickstart some sort of Beforan troll feelings jam that would rally them together to actually be useful for once in their lives/afterlives and contribute to the LE fight.

Again, if you PREFER the sad ending, I can't stop you, but the reason I'm going in on there being an "original ending" that isn't sad is because the sad ending doesn't make narrative sense. Why is the ultimate self speech coming from a combination of two characters that barely spoke? Why is it triumphant that Meenah and character-development-reset Vriska get to be the big goods in the fight with LE? Why do multiple prophecies suddenly get dropped right at the end when all other prophecies DO come true? Why does Karkat spend so long being sad his friends are dead, and also why is he deliberately set up as the Friends Troll (blood = bonds), and then suddenly not care that multiple methods exist for bringing back his friends? Why bother softening the blow of all the dead/irrelevant alternate selves if they're intended to be fully tragic? Why introduce a mechanic that would let them save whoever they want consequence-free and then not use it to do that? Why does Roxy love wizards so much and then not get to meet the wizard boy? Why is the entire rest of Homestuck so carefully crafted, so narratively satisfying, so thematically and tonally consistent, and then all of it goes to shit right at the end?

So yeah lol this is the SHORT version lol this isnt even the LONG version of this essay

#anon i think u just like tragedies which is ok 👍

[nuctua-larc]

the sillier

#homestuck #gamzee makara #godtier #redesign #had SO much fun with him #very daunting but his vibes are exquisite #him having no wings mostly because he makes the fit himself but also like #maybe something to do with his aspect and disbelief #idk #my art

[garysprites]

may i humbly ask of a gamtavsprite? like if, instead of tavrossprite prototyping x2 with gcat he did with gamzee in the fridge? so hed be blue... godtier outfit omitted for ease of comfort if thats alright. scars on the face are fine if that would make sense for a sprite. also make sure hes happy he loves himself

#homestuck #sprite edit #request #fusion #kernelsprite #gamtavsprite #gamzee makara #tavros nitram

[hsoppositezodiac]

More info about the trolls (part 3)

Aradia Megido | Tealblood - Derse - Seer of Time

An enthusiast of the law; After her death, she convinced all of her friends to start a trial and decide the fate of her murderer. His Honorable Tyranny's fangirl. She also seems to enjoy playing the harmonica.

Fetch Modus: Backpack | Planet: Land of Policy and Clockwork | Strife Specibus, screen name & quirk stays the same

Matesprit: Terezi Pyrope | Auspitice of: Feferi Peixes & Nepeta Leijon | Moirail: Sollux Captor

Godtier? Yes

Tavros Nitram | Ceruleanblood - Prospit - Thief of Breath

A blueblood who, despite appearance, is very chill. He, however, doesn't take kindly to those who mistreat lusii or animals in general. Despite being confident, he still likes playing "games for girls" and watching shows for wrigglers, he hides this fact from everybody except Gamzee.

Fetch Modus: Wings | Planet: Land of Birds and Zephyr | Quirk: is the same, except he also replaces 'i' with '1' (like Rufioh) | Strife Specibus and screen name is the same

Flush-crush: Gamzee Makara

Godtier? Yes

Sollux Captor | Indigoblood - Dual Dreamer - Heir of Doom

Your average gamer. If he gets pissed (happens often), he tends to destroy the first thing he sees. An amateur programmer who mostly codes for websites. He holds an interest for card games too.

Fetch Modus: Computer | Planet: Land of Rays and Disease | Strife Specibus: Mousekind | Quirk: now types three 'iii's; replaces 's' with 'sh' instead of 2s. | Screen name is the same

Moirail: Aradia Megido | Is aware of Eridan's pale-black crush, but doesn't reciprocate it

Godtier? No

#homestuck #bloodswap #bloodswap au #aradia megido #tavros nitram #sollux captor #teal megidos #cerulean nitrams #indigo captors #all the blues in here

[ns-sprite-editz]

You are very much alive and you intend to stay that way.

Oodles of bullshit for funsies Marsixstuck AU stuff🫠 Edit of @lexxercise's Vriska from the 3x Showdown flash.

Before this, Vriska's soul was in a soulbot as Vriskabot, because Vriska was dead. Why? Karkat killed her by accident, she was his kismesis, and then haunts him. Bonus, she previously ransacked Nepeta's hive and ripped her eye out, and after Nepeta is hive-less, she roams the countryside to live next to Karkat's hive. Nepeta doesn't know that ghost Vriska is haunting Karkat, and ghost Vriska doesn't bother Nepeta too often. Vriska godtiered the same way Aradia in canon does, dormant dreamself chilling inside Prospit's moon on a questbed.

Anyways, she's going to use her rage to fuck Eridan and Gamzee up after Murderstuck on the meteor.

#vriska makara #thief of rage #bloodswap vriska #bloodswap #marsixstuck #homestuck #panel edit

[butchdazai]

cherubs and gender

we know that our genders are social constructs, with behaviours rising from that which is expected of us based on our gender. however, cherubs are solitary creatures, they don't live in societies like we do. the cherub differences would be more analogous to differences in sex, where they have four different sexes:

green benevolent

green evil

red benevolent

red evil

it is clear that green benevolent and red evil can mate as can green evil and red benevolent, and it is implied that the same alignment ones cannot mate, but we have no idea if the same colour but different alignment ones are able to mate

you could potentially take "benevolent" and "evil" to be genders, but i don't think that's really fair. when we meet godtier!calliope, they seem very different to the main calliope we know, and they don't seem to have the same sort of gender expression nor general socialization as her

it is my conclusion that cherubs are by default what we would describe as agender

calliope and caliborn are exceptions, as they were raised by gamzee and also grew up watching and speaking with humans, who had defined gender roles. this is why i consider both of them transgender (with the exception of meat!calliope, who i consider cis as they ended up being agender again)

#homestuck #calliope #caliborn #homestuck cherubs