#giles first watch

[moodyseal]

Finished the last ep of season 1 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and gosh, what a tragic character she is.

I obviously haven't watched the later seasons yet but I saw someone mention in a comment on YouTube how in the series everyone expects so much from her while giving her barely any support in turn, and it's true specifically in the last scene, and in the entire episode.

Buffy had her whole world turned upside down in a day. She found out she was fated to die, supposedly alone, while fighting what was shown a couple of episodes before to be the creature she feared the most—all while being barely sixteen, with big dreams in her mind about a future she wouldn't even have.

She rightfully expressed those feelings, and all of a sudden Giles was acting so surprised, as if it were a given that she would save them all once again and accept to sacrifice herself, marching to her death like a soldier going to war. But the thing is—why should she have done that? She was born the Slayer, sure, but she didn't choose that life. She never wanted it. She shouldn't have been forced to take on such a big responsibility at such a young age. She was supposed to be a child. Live her life. Be a normal girl whose biggest problem was her History homework.

Then, once she did choose to do as foretold and go face the Master, only to "die" and be brought back and then kick his ass as she did with any monster of the week during the whole season, everyone just patted her on the back, said, "Whew what a day," and went on with their lives. "We should go to prom."

The gap between them and her was so obvious here, because while (albeit a bit shaken themselves) they were celebrating, she was left processing everything on her own. What happened to her, how alone she felt, what her role would be from then on. All of this while the others only spared her a single, "You died. Yikes."

Not a word about how she was feeling, except from Giles. Not a hug. Not a significant sign of acknowledgement.

She couldn't possibly tell them anything—they were traumatized just as much as her, so it would've been unfair to them. So she swallowed her feelings down, of course, as I'm sure she will do again somewhere soon, and just said she was fine, as if nothing happened.

Sure, let's go party. Sure, I'm okay. Sure, I'm not severely scarred from this experience.

Sure. Sure. Sure.

Always and forever.

#don't get me wrong i love giles #i love that he realized how wrong it was to expect buffy to take on everything #but what he first did was just not it #lonely thoughts #buffy the vampire slayer #buffy summers #it's sad buffy summers hours #had to get this off my chest because it made me sad to watch her #and accidentally wrote a meta post about a show i'll probably never mention again #poetic

[sdwolfpup]

I decided to rewatch Buffy's 'Once More With Feeling' and then the very end of 'Smashed' and I'm gonna say it: Buffy & Spike's first kiss and sex scene still work incredibly well. His absolutely gone look, the way she's shocked at herself and then clearly into it, both times. Her leading both times. The snarking/violence as foreplay. Whatever their relationship became in season 6, it sure started off exactly as I would have imagined it given all that had come before.

#do NOT @ me with season 6 spuffy meta i am just enjoying a moment #btvs #buffy x spike #also that sex scene is hot for being T rated #well done all involved for these two specific things #(in retrospect also Giles in OMWF is even more attractive and more confounding in the choices he's making) #(I can see the outline of what season 6 should be) #(and I'm still overly attached to it bc it was really the first season I ever watched) #(but boy did they fumble some shit)

[shejustcalledmeafish]

Nothing dates Buffy more to me than the fact that when Andrew is talking about being a fan of Doctor Who, he means Classic Who

#buffy the vampire slayer #doctor who #it’s so funny #you’re going to be so happy in a few years #also give it a few more years #and watch spike mack on a dude #and giles be an evil school guy #but mostly the first one

[setphasertoburnnn]

Me after watching the first interaction between Gile and Ethan

#buffy the vampire slayer #buffyverse #buffy posting #it’s my first watch pls don't spoil me #but pls tell I'm right #rupert giles #ethan rayne #giles x ethan

[helennorvilles]

hiii giles, hiiiiiiiii

#im a rupert giles girly first and a human second #he just does it for me idk what to tell youse. simple as. #my post tag #nia watches btvs

[jennycalendar]

still struggling with season three, actually. still sorta stuck on how desperately it wants things to return to the status quo, except the very fabric of everything has changed. and i think i would be less discomfited by it if, like, jenny wasn't erased after a certain point? because the suggestion within this season is very much "we can't go back, the world is different now" but also the thing that made the world different is about to be forgotten forever, so it feels just completely inauthentic! and even buffy killing angel, that big, shocking end beat, is unwritten in this season. so the world is different now and they can't go back except jenny never existed and buffy and angel are dating again. it feels at odds with itself.

#celia watches btvs #being a jenny enjoyer first and foremost is rough. it really is #i think i'd be willing to give it some room if she wasn't just GONE after a certain point! #but the way it's like ''nothing will ever be the same'' after SCOOPING HER OUT #and the way giles's grief remains unspoken but fucking tangible #the fact that she's not there but she's never replaced! #it's so painful to watch. and so hard

[stinko-lord]

THEY TOO MY FAVORITE CLOP OF GILES OUT OF THE INTRO

please your honor he is my special little guy

#i’m watching buffy for the first time #he’s the only thing keeping me going #buffy the vampire slayer #buffy tvs #rupert giles

[oveliagirlhaditright]

I guess it's not overly common, or maybe it is and it's just in fiction, because there's plenty of them, and good in depth ones...but I also have always kind of liked or at least had interest for Bangelus I always was bummed there was never another meeting w them. It was something of ATS that didn't make sense since she was all he thought about last time he was out and he even almost ended the world. It was waste that rematch never happened....

I definitely agree, anon. I imagine a lot of it has to do with the legal issues at the time, of course. With Buffy and Angel being on different networks and the networks not really wanting the different characters to appear on each other's shows.

And, perhaps, the writers felt like if they had a Buffy vs. Angelus thing again--even if there would of course be some differences this time--it would be too much like Buffy season two, so instead they had Angelus vs. Faith instead (which I do love).

But it definitely is weird that Angelus didn't seem to mention Buffy much in Angel season 4, when she was all he thought about before. I think the most we get is him calling Buffy "a pistol," (which is a great line), and him calling Dawn and asking if Buffy's there (to figure out if the Slayer in town he's hearing about is Buffy or Faith), right?

To be honest, we can't deny that some of this might also be because season four is where a lot of where the Angel/C*ordelia plot line is. And during that, the show kind of stopped mentioning Buffy (to maybe try and give the illusion that Angel had moved on some, to try and get the audience to stop thinking of the Angel/Buffy pairing, or moreover to get people to not question... "Wait, how is Angel pursuing a relationship when he still has the curse when the whole reason he left Buffy is because he can't have a relationship if he still has the curse?"). So that might also be part of it. But I definitely think it's moreso the first points.

And, I know I'm biased here, of course (though I do still enjoy Angel/C*ordelia some, though Angel/Buffy is my OTP now), but I don't think Angelus really had feelings for C*ordelia (Buffy seems to be the only person that both the man and demon in him loved). Or if he did, it wasn't like what he felt for Buffy. Because if he had, wouldn't they have made him crazy like his feelings for Buffy had? Like, wouldn't he have wanted to destroy her for making him love her, too, if that had been a thing? So I don't think something like "Angelus had feelings for C*ordelia and that's why he didn't really think about Buffy in season four" was a thing.

The closest we probably ever get to seeing Buffy and Angelus ever interact again in canon is the comics (I don't know if you've read those, anon).

In season 8, I feel like Twilight (this other persona of Angel's, who, is, like partly good and partly bad; and also being possessed by his and Buffy's kind-of-evil kid [it's a super long and complicated story)] is kind of Angelus-like to me. But also Angel-like some. And yes, he and Buffy do end up fighting.

And then in season 10, Angelus makes a brief appearance (when his great-grandsire brings him out again) and he jealously attacks Spike in knowing that at the moment Buffy has chosen to be with him instead. And this definitely seems to hint, of course, that Angelus has finally accepted his feelings for Buffy by this point (the Twilight stuff kind of did, too--if you choose to see Twilight as partly Angelus at all--since he was choosing to be with Buffy and trying to create a perfect world with her, where they and everyone they loved could be together).

There's also a part in the tie-in book "Monster Island" (that takes place in early Buffy season 6 and Angel season 3), where Buffy and Angel (and Gunn) are kidnapped by the Big Bad of the book's minions. To try and get them out, Tara casts a spell to get all magical creatures to attack each other (thinking the demons would then turn against each other, and they could just easily swoop in and save Buffy and Angel at that point). But she didn't count on Buffy and Angel also being magical creatures, of course (or even herself being a magical creature), so Buffy and Angel are trying to break from their bonds to kill each other. And Angel is starting to be very Angelus-like (like, Angel even thinks that), though he's trying to fight it.

...This reply is all over the place. And I don't know if it makes much sense. Sorry about that! But like you, I do kind of wish that we'd gotten more Bangelus in canon! Like, it's cool that in the comics it seems that Angelus has undergone some sort of journey offscreen and accepted his love for Buffy, but I wish we had seen that onscreen somewhere.

But oh well. I guess that's what fanfiction is for:)

Thanks for the ask!

Edit: There's also more Buffy and Angelus in the book "Night Terrors," a Buffy Choose Your Own Adventure book. But if you get on the path where Angelus shows up, it's sort of an alternate canon to Buffy season two, as he shows up earlier there than he did in season two (before he and Buffy make love, etc.).

Angelus is also in the book "One Thing or Your Mother," and the classic comic "Ring of Fire," but they're more missing moments/episodes from season two, than Angelus showing up in a later season and seeing Buffy again or anything like that. I do highly recommend both, however, since you're a Bangelus fan. Especially "One Thing or Your Mother." Oh! And in the tie-in-novel "Here Be Monsters" (that takes place during Buffy season three), there's a section where Buffy is seeing her worst nightmares. I think it's Angelus she sees (and I think she sees herself killing him again? it's been a while), who tells her that she knows how their story is going to have to end (with her killing him once more), and she'd better make it stick this time.

In the tie-in book, "The Evil That Men Do" (a book that takes place in season three), Buffy and Angel are kidnapped by Helen (a former vampire lover of Angelus') and her lover and forced to try to kill each other in a gladiator-like game. They pretend that they've turned on each other to get out of it and get their enemies to try to kill one another (as Helen's lover was always jealous of her and Angelus, and now he fears they're going to be together again).

In the classic comic "City of Despair" (that takes place in Buffy season 4/Angel season 1) Buffy and Angel are abducted to another dimension (called the City of Despair, actually), and forced to battle each other. They both have these collars on their necks, that are impossible to remove and will kill them if they disobey. They're also, like, almost forced to fight against their will: their bodies moving with a mind of their own, I mean. But eventually Buffy realizes that it's literally people's despair keeping them there. She convinces Angel to try to fight against the feeling with her for just one moment: the two of them embrace, and then escape.

Edit 2: Wait. I guess there's also the Buffy book "Big Bad," that has Buffy and Angelus in it, but I haven't read it yet. So I can't tell you how good or in-character that one is atm. And unlike how the original tie-in books and classic comics were always okayed by at least one of the original writers, I'm not sure if these new novels have been. I'm thinking not?

Edit 3: And though a part of me is loath to mention Boom, since they're not canon and I have... not very positive emotions about these comics in a lot of ways. In the first Buffy/Angel comic they were doing, Angel ended up possessed by something called the Hellmother, I believe it was called, while he and Buffy were on a mission in the Hellmouth together. And then Buffy ended up having to fight him.

#long post #bangelus #bangel #asked and answered #this also gets into headcanon territory of course: but i'd like to believe s4!angelus would have eventually come to sunnydale. but he was #being more careful. and doing things a bit differently this time. after last time #but it's def possible. imo. since we don't see into angelus' head in s4 that much as compared to s2 #but you know... as much as i would have loved to see buffy vs angelus again in angel s4 and buffy s7. it might be best it didn't happen #in the shows and is just a fanfic (a very good) fanfic thing. buffy went through much that season. and the seasons prior. she didn't need #that too. another user said this (can't think of their name right now). but hearing angelus was back while she was dealing with the first #and trying to protect all the potentials probably WOULD have put her on suicide watch. my poor girl #also in another choose your own adventure book. colony. you can get bad endings where buffy and angel pretty much kill each other #since in that book either angel buffy or giles got the whammy put on them by the big bad #also bad endings in night terrors where angelus kills buffy #but those kinds of things are par for the course with choose your own adventure books #colony takes place in s2 too #but of course none of that would be canon. those bad endings #though it could be canon where angel or buffy got the whammy put on them but then got broken out of it: those endings #excuse me while i just add in all of the buffy/angel fight scenes i can think of. i guess. that people might not know about here #that are maybe angelus-esque (some of these definitely stretching that. i know). since it might somewhat kind of-ish be a bit of what #you're looking for anon #also. side note. all of these buffy books and comics are actually really good. even the first buffy/angel boom story i prefer much more to #some of their later stuff probably #and angelus himself has been in some of the boom comics now. though not at the same time as buffy sadly #and i don't know how in-character or not he's been. because i sort of stopped reading boom. but what little i did see with him looked like #it might have been taking him in a strange direction. but i may be wrong #there's also the angel book 'impressions' where these stones are making all of the demons act wild/angry which. if you haven't guessed. #makes angel act more like angelus and sort of pulls angelus out more and more as the book progresses (until things are resolved) and in #that book angel thinks of buffy twice there #that book takes place during angel season 3/buffy season 6

[wait----------what]

WAS NO ONE GONNA TELL ME BUFFY HAD A MUSICAL EPISODE!?!?

#btvs #btvs s6 #first watch #buffy the vampire slayer #musical #musical episode #btvs s6 ep7 #episode 7 #ep7 once more with feeling #btvs willow #btvs spike #btvs giles #btvs buffy #btvs tara #btvs xander #btvs annya #btvs dawn

[thornheat]

Crying,,,i love rupert giles

#been watching buffy for the first time and i love his character so so much #where are the rupert giles fancams #personal

[vampyrjuice]

no idea if repo! destroyed me or made me better because I am definitely now attracted to that old man. the first time I watched buffy I was normal about giles and now he comes on screen and I'm suddenly a teenage girl laying on her bed kicking her legs writing in her diary with glitter gel pen

#twirling my hair and everything. giles my beloved <333 #is this what age does to an mf or have i just been watching/listening to repo too much #i was 14 of 15 the first time i watched this show. 10 years ago. what the fuck

[me-myself-and-my-fos]

“We’ll have Giles deported”

#the Council: *threatens Giles* #me: *preparing to commit first degree murder* #nic watches her f/os’ source material

[twelverriver]

just saw a buzzfeed ranking which had their top 5 buffy characters listed as willow, spike, giles, faith, buffy.... i feel SICK

#jana.txt #sorry i'm being petty about this bu5 #sorry i just can't understand this ranking lol #i dont wanna be petty on here cause i want a positive online experience & space BUT I JUST CANT TAKE THIS #everyone who doesnt have buffy as favourite character is lowkey not watching the show the right way i'm right about this <3 #sorry but willow spike giles ANd faith over buffy....she barely made it into the top 5 #... #the author literally said that while her slumb in s6 was understandable it was also not cool and not nice to watch or some bullshit like th #if ou like buffy less after s6 i wish you a very pleaseant fuck you #also willow i do love u however girlie.....no #also putting giles on pt 3 and even saying oh he was so fun in s7! even tho they had that is he the first copout... honeys s7 giles is not #i mean it makes SENSE but also i dont want ti to be real <3 #sorry i just. cant get over this rating it's hauting me #do i tag this as anti anything #i probably delete this soon anyway lol i just wanted to vent #the whole rating was fucked it had like 130 characters on it and it was flawed all the way

[isaacathom]

my friend and i watched more eps of firefly, jaynestown through war stories, and far out man. i really like the show. its very fun to come back to it as someone who knows it doesnt get to Resolve and go 'damn. its real good though'

#the scene with kaylee in out of gas fucking killed me and so did the final joke in war stories #which is praise from me because sex jokes are not really that funny to me #but the first one was absolutely hysterical in part because it plays with the way that intersects with foreknowledge #its a flashback! the viewer knows how it goes the MOMENT she starts talking #the moment this pretty young girl getting railed in the engine room goes '[that part] isnt broken' its like WAIT. KAYLEE?????? #and theres something so delightful in that because you already know her. its not her introduction. i think that matters #and then the one in war stories was set up by the torture scene that was honestly cool in its own right #as on the one level the villain guys just electrocuting them and the two are just hashing out the Deal #but it also clearly has a purpose! you realise mal is doing it ON PURPOSE. he's keeping wash up! #its a cool layered scene and honestly kind of funny for the contrast of the context and the content #and then the actual final scene with the joke hit me so hard i was in tears. hysteric shit. it was very good #firefly blogging #it was also a fun contrast to watching a random episode of buffy with 0 context #because even not knowing shit. the thing with giles and joyce was STILL super funny without context! #this was in band candy to be clear #also partly because id kinda fuck giles i think. or ripper. i think that would go Great (it wouldnt but like damn though) #the two of them spend that episode being way too hot for no good reason honestly

[reasonsforhope]

"Irish conservationists report that the magnificent osprey has successfully bred in the wilds of the Emerald Isle for the first time in almost 250 years.

Worldwide, ospreys are doing great—listed as “Least Concern” by the IUCN who add they are increasing in population. However their massive brown and white wings have been absent from Irish skies for two centuries after being hunted to extinction.

The last recorded osprey to nest in Ireland was found in 1779, writes the Ireland-based conservation group Golden Eagle Trust on Facebook.

Visiting ospreys sometimes stop on the island to rest, but almost since the signing of the US Declaration of Independence, no pair has ever deemed it a safe environment to raise young.

A nesting pair (ospreys mate for life) was discovered by experienced birdwatcher Giles Knight, the Environmental Farming Scheme Advisor with Ulster Wildlife, a conservation non-profit.

“Along with my son Eoin, I have watched the adults return to the same site since 2021, so you can imagine my excitement the moment that I saw three chicks and two adults this year,” said Knight in a statement. “It was a rub-your-eyes, once-in-a-lifetime moment; an absolute highlight of my 30-year wildlife career—like finding long-lost treasure.”

“With at least two of the chicks fledging this season, this is a huge conservation success story and indicates a healthy wetland ecosystem with plenty of suitable habitat and fish to bring this apex predator back to our skies and plunging into the Fermanagh Lakelands. Truly the return of a living countryside!” ...

The old Gaelic name for osprey was “Iascaire Coirneach”, meaning “Tonsured Fisherman”, possibly related to how its black eye band and white crown give it the appearance of the semi-bald tonsure typical of medieval Christian monks, the Golden Eagle Trust wrote on Facebook in a celebratory post.

“Now these birds are back in Ireland and breeding successfully, it is critical that they are left in peace so their numbers can continue to grow by returning year on year to breed,” Knight added in the statement. “We believe and hope that this could be the start of a raptor dynasty.”"

-via Good News Network, August 27, 2023

#ireland #osprey #birdwatching #wetlands #conservation #biodiversity #ecosystem restoration #baby birds #baby animals #good news #hope

[jennycalendar]

the actual horrific tragedy of absolutely all of the scoobies being convinced that joyce is angelus’s primary target and then it is jenny, who they did not even think to worry about or wonder about or protect. like no fucking wonder buffy develops a guilt complex after that! no fucking wonder no one is ever the same, REALLY, after what happens to jenny! they kick her to the curb and she dies because of it. obviously it’s not something where blame can be easily assigned, but it is very clear that were she in their inner circle while she was working on the curse, they would have known to protect her.

and while the show itself doesn’t do anything to elaborate upon this (because the important thing is to get jenny to the part where she dies, regardless of how in or out of character it is -- especially since jenny doesn’t really have a character to begin with), i’m kinda personally of the mind that jenny knew the risks and didn’t care. i don’t really think her life was worth very much to her at that point. i think giles knows her well enough to know that that factored in.

#celia watches btvs #thinking about giles knowing that the love of his life went on a suicide mission. #thinking about him trying so hard to follow her. #because that is what he does. she goes first and he follows her. that is all he wants to do.