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prettyboykatsuki · 1 year
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of the popular bakugo ships, which one do you think is best for him in the long run? like which dynamic does he thrive the most in?
oh cee,,,u cant do this to me /lh.. im so biased AJHDSKS
i think krbk and bkdk are two very different dynamics and i do genuinely understand both of them (and like!!! both!!!) but to me the answer will always and forever be bkdk.
BUT. i dont think that can be said without the inevitable speech that bkdk as a romantic relationship is going to take a lot more work than krbk would.
while i like krbk and i think it's enjoyable to read if i am holding it up to bkdk it is a relationship i do genuinely view more platonically than i do bkdk. to me bkdk is like... the end game of bkgs life in a lot of ways. it takes way more to unpack and way more growth from both parties to make it work.
like. it takes time. it takes a lot of back and forth and it takes a lot of bakugou learning how to really be forgiven (and for both of them to learn how to be honest with their feelings.) like it takes years
eventually though, i think bakugou realizes that deku has been there for every single moment of his life with undoubted faith and there was never a moment he was deluded about any of who he is. the persistence and magnitude in which deku loves him as well as the inspiration he gets from competing with deku is something that i think is so good for bakugous life. they feel made for each other to me
it takes more time for them because it's a lot more intricate. but once they're there it just clicks. like everything in bakugous whole life just clicks everything makes sense. and i think it makes him wonder why things couldnt be that way from the start
i say this a lot but there is just no ship that could ever compare to me but i do think my specific interpretation of bkdk is not the popular one so i understand why people lean towards krbk.
bkg deserves that kind and shameless adoration and both ships can provide that but less people usually see it in the bkdk way but i feel like once i started rlly looking at bkdk it was simply impossible for me to see anything else.
i am a multshipper at heart so i will read anything where bkg is being adored but. bkdk simply hits different for me forever.
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burquillos · 4 months
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Bakugo=damian
Deku=jon
I have been thinking about it for years
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I AM SO GLAD YOU ASKED THIS cause I've literally been looking for an excuse to make these charts. Anyways I see your vision:
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I have not read supersons and I want to avoid fanon as much as I can so I have less on them kjasdblkandk
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beybuniki · 2 months
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bro i havent been online for a while and was thinking abt asking u abt kachakko and delissa but i was scared bc ppl hate kacchako </3 but then i read all ur posts and YOU SHIP KACHAKKO TOO THANK YOU SM OMDS MY BESTIE KEPT TELLING MY TO SHUT UP AND MOVE ON BUT I WILL NEVERRRRR🙈💪💪
oh also delissa?? melissa x deku thoughts?? like i hate her icl also i cnat rmemebr if she was from a bnha mvoie or nah??
i wouldn't say i ship kacchako but i DO think their dynamic has so much potential! i wish horikoshi had explored their dynamic more, there are some nice parallels and their chemistry is just very funny, but i can see why he didn't do that, i tihnk a lot of people would have reduced it to a silly love triangle (people love to hierarchize deku's friendships so much i dont get it he loves them all)
i also think a lot of people's dislike for kacchako is a knee-jerk reaction because it's a m/f ship and could be easily reduced to a boring grumpy boy x cute girl dynamic, but i genuinely think they could have had a very nice dynamic in canon! and it's nice to see some people play with it in fanon, sometimes i see very cute fan art :) i think ochako is, similarly to deku, a very fun combination of very very kind and timid + stubborn and enough of a backbone to not let bakugo push her over.... would have loved to see bakugo try to handle that lmao
i don't think I vibe with deku and melissa, they're like cousins to me, especially with all might being her uncle, very cute canon dynamic though i like her
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Haven’t posted in a sec! My brain is currently rotting over BakuDeku and drowning in Midoriya has a quirk/sassy as mf deku fics. Here are some of my favorite MHA and BakuDeku head canon and fanon
1. Most of Midoriya’s massive All Might collection were gifts from Bakugou. Midoriya and his mom are not very well off and Bakugou’s parents are fashion designers. Like to think that Bakugou, who is also an All Might super fan, will just buy any merch he sees and without preamble of any kind just give it to Midoriya and walk away.
2. Midoriya has a very simple analysis quirk but he’s such a fanboy and has such bad hyperfixation that no one ever catches it. They just take the fact that he has 13 notes books full of high level and in depth hero analysis as him being a nerd
3. Midoriya is actually just as sassy and sharp tongued as Bakugou but he just hides it better. It drives Bakugou insane because he knows it and he sees it, but everyone else is like “oh sweet angel Izuku” but Bakugou is “crazy and loud” - when in reality of the two of them he is the more responsible and caring one.
4. Midoriya and Bakugou are partners for the first 5 or so years as professional hero’s. Since Bakugou is one of the few people who know the full truth about Midoriya’s powers is makes sense, but it’s during this time of really having to always be together and working together that their friends start noticing how much of a old married couple the two can be. Like bickering over stupid stuff but also the little caring and mindless gestures like Bakugou always having a notebook and pen with him, even though he never uses it, because Midoriya thinks best by writing stuff down. Or Midoriya carrying an extra ice pack in his first aid kit because it helps bakugous hands when they over heat.
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takami-takami · 1 year
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Hawks Essay Time!
This one is an analysis on Hawks' playfulness, as shown by Team Up Missions vol 22! As much as fanon falsely portrays him as this promiscuous playboy (as we've all seen, I'm sure), there's also a part of the fandom that forgets that Hawks is quite quirky and cheeky, despite his seriousness at his core. And I'm not sure I agree with the idea that people write that off as simply part of his "act" or "hero persona." I've also seen some misinformation that because of how he gets when he works, that it must mean he is "cold."
So! After the mission where he does most of the work quickly, he decides to go home and rest for the day, and the kids ask to go home with him. He says yes, then does this.
(This page made me cackle. But for context:)
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Just as he hoped and planned, the kids start to chase after him!
Now, here is where I'm drawing your attention. Hawks is very cute about it, treating it almost like a game.
Notice his wording. He answers that he's "playing tag." And check his body language when he's in his element, especially in the cute little panel where he waves backwards, saying "laters!"
(Read from right to left)
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Now, this page below here is very important. Notice how he immediately goes into contemplative mode the second he's alone? He perches up high, his smile fades, he puts his hand over his mouth, and he thinks alone. Yet, the thought is still "maybe I should show myself to them a little." It's still about how to keep the chase going.
Remember: Hawks tends to be most genuine and true to himself when he is alone (though he is also genuine in many other situations, like the Lady Nagant scene, around Endeavor at times, etc).
It's a game of cat and mouse that isn't just for fun per say. It's deliberate to a goal of teaching, but Hawks has stated before he's "not especially interested in nurturing the next generation or anything." Yet he banters with Deku and Mineta. He does care about the kids, and wants them to grow as heroes (he's very pleased when Tokoyami flies after him when the chase starts, saying "that's more like it"), but he's not like other pro heroes who would either instruct/train them or push them vigorously.
He's playful about his methods! That is the point here!
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I would also be remiss to not add this for context: at the end, they all have a talk about Hawks' house (the comission sponsored one, not his real home). Deku catches the way he says "it's not like I come home often anyways" and thinks "he's actually very strict with himself". Though, this is definitely more geared toward the conversation of his work ethic/free time/facade of a "laid-back, carefree" persona. It's still crucial insight after the entire chapter.
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While Hawks' actions are deliberate, I genuinely do not believe that all of his quirks and banter is an act, or a means to an end. It wouldn't make sense to his character for him to act playfully simply to achieve some result that he could achieve faster with other methods. I believe it to be a reflection of his wit and "bird-like" oddities, as well. Hawks is resilient, optimistic, and carries with him a childlike wonder and spark that has been shown multiple times.
Yes, he is quite serious; but a duality exists in many avenues with Hawks, and this is one of them.
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dekuchannnn · 10 months
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my favorite mha headcannons
some of these are actually headcannons or fanons
Bakugo: he's fully deaf in one ear and losing hearing in the other, he hates wearing his hearing aids but he's begun to reluctantly do so more regularly. only a couple of people know this though: deku, kirishima, mina, and denki. he started learning JSL in private, but once deku noticed a JSL workbook in the corner of his room and insisted they learn together. bkg doesn't know that kiri, mina, and denki have all secretly started learning JSL as well so that bkg doesn't have to wear his hearing aids all the time.
Deku: Deku runs a hero analysis blog under an alias. He maintains a pretty okay following and he alllllllways reblogs stuff about Hawks, All Might, and Dynamight. He loves writing meta posts on heroes and their quirks/strengths/weaknesses. He has no idea that a couple of people in class also know about his blog & he most definitely doesn't know that Kacchan knows about it. Shinsou regularly reblogs Deku's stuff onto his own blog, but has no idea it's Deku.
Shinso: Shinso and Bakugo are actually really good friends but neither of them would ever admit it to anyone. It's because Shinso is always up in the common room from the night before and Bakugo is always up at the ass crack of dawn to run. They sit in the common room together in the dark & sip their coffee together. Shinso started making Bakugo his coffee after a little while. Bakugo always complains that Shinso makes it wrong, but it's actually the best coffee Bkg has ever had.
Shoto: Shoto runs a conspiracy YouTube channel. He never shows his face and he uses a voice modulator to mask his voice. His username is @/fuckendeavor though, so pretty much everyone in Class A knows it's him. He uses Endeavor's credit card to go on shopping sprees with Deku and Ochaco on the weekends. Deku and Bakugo have been trying to teach him how to play video games since he never got to growing up. He's really bad at them.
that's all for now, but im sure i have more somewhere. special shoutout to all of the fics that inspired so many of my headcanons:
Coffee Cans and Energy Drinks by GaleIsSomething Improbable by MinervaHope The Way You Used to Do by edema_ruh Yume: Hero Analysis For You by Kikyo_iru
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transhawks · 5 months
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I have to agree. I will argue that cwac is well written but it's essentially just different characters with a bnha coat of paint, it was written so many years ago where it could've technically been a direction taken but canon has deviated so far from it no longer resembles anything close to it. The problem begins when some take it as a canon interpretation when it was not leading to infighting and misreading of canon events and character, although this is no fault of the author who I believe is still very talented.
When I first got into the fandom circa 2018, right before Hawks debuted, I was super obsessed with Deku and so CWAC was up my alley. But the moment I started paying attention to the villains, somehow it clearly dawned on me how not only OOC the story was but just how much the author clearly dislikes characters like Shigaraki or Dabi and how much it shows, fairly juvenile-y.
I won't argue that the author isn't talented, but over the years a friend who was also a very Big Writer at the time of CWAC's popularity 2018-ish has told me how discussions about the League went very badly.
The issue still is the fandom. I absolutely blame DFO on CWAC and the other work of the author that the name escapes me. Even now, when I look at DFO dynamics or the weird afo inko obsession they absolutely clearly have elements from the fic, so essentially what CWAC did was establish such a clear fanon that even non-fic readers have taken it as part of the theory.
I mean, again this is more the issue of the fandom in general just clinging on to very old perceptions of characters and plots. I'm going to rant about that below.
I'll use Tomura as an example because what made me dislike CWAC was the handling of him when I started to realize just how rich Horikoshi made Tomura 's character. Some shig-haters never get passed Kamino in what they think of him, and there are the LOV stans who haven't caught up with the idea that actually the MLA arc was *bad* for the League and are still in the viewpoint that the villains are revolutionaries. So there's these spaces where Shigaraki is just seen as a murderous incel versus Shigaraki is Che Guevara incarnate.
And these echo chambers are so removed from each other that very often little nuance penetrates, so you have incredibly established fanon truths that are rarely deviated from and people just stop examining the source material. Then conflict arises when you leave the echo chamber and talk to someone else.
Also worth mentioning is that the fandom echo chambers manage to function as they do by assigning moral values to any "thought crimes" that don't line up with accepted fanon-"canon". Don't think the League are super-radicals who will actually liberate society and create a Marxist utopia? Well you're a capitalist pig who supports cops, bye. You can see it with the very hardcore hero stans who think liking a villain means condoning murder too, "why do you like terrorists?" Or come into my inbox to tell me Jin's murder was justified. Fandom is very good at policing itself into cliques, to the detriment of everyone, I think.
It also, I think, created the situation where people in this fandom genuinely hate the work, keep reading it in bad faith due to those ingrained fanon expectations and preconceptions of what the work should be, and then get more and more resentful as time goes on and their views are not even acknowledged.
Seriously, just look back at the reaction of hero stan Twitter and reddit bros at Himiko's whole fight with Ochako. There was so much hatred of how Himiko was being redeemed.
There are still canon DFO fans. I feel sorry for those who had to look at this chapter and realize that what they've sunk so much time into was not real. Disappointment hurts, man.
Anyway, thanks for listening to me rant. I find it fascinating in an academic sense how so much of fandom was shaped by a fic and I wonder if at some point someone will examine it critically.
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narcorob · 2 months
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MHA Chapter 1
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I had a lot more to say about this chapter than I thought, so I'll see how it affects posting.
CHAPTER 1 --
In which the literal first appearance of Izuku is him trying to save someone, and Katsuki's being him bullying some random kid (and Izuku of course). I think this chapter sets the theme of the story well, if only it stuck to it. People being born unfair is a theme we seemingly lose straight after Izuku gets All Might's quirk, which is really unfortunate.
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Something else I really like is how Chapter 1 sets up society as well; an attack from a villain, at least in this part of the city, is little more than a minor inconvenience. Regardless of the reasons why, this is striking because in most hero media, civilians are only there to be saved and when they are, they end up evacuating quickly.
In MHA, however, civilians stop and gawk; seeing a hero is only a little bit less important than seeing a celebrity walking down the street. Civilians at this point in time are so sure that heroes can stop the villains, are so secure in the knowledge that heroes can never let them down, that they walk up to the fight and have to be held off by other heroes and the police.
Wild.
Another thing is just how much force this random villain gets hit with for... stealing a purse? Well. I think from now I'll save all my social commentary for when the story talks about it, because I do have a lot of thoughts.
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I'll put this one on this post though, because I'm not sure if the story comments on it: to be honest, encouraging kids to be heroes is really reckless, especially considering the amount of danger it puts them in! I guess it's to be expected, though. Who wouldn't want to be a hero? Only really people who like to be contrary, to be honest.
U.A. is NOT beating the child soldier allegations.
U.A. is always touted as a really important school, but I think we see it best in the way the students react to the idea of Katsuki applying for it: with shock, and then an outburst. I think U.A. is a little lackluster when it comes to magical schools, but in-universe it's obviously very important.
This chapter also shows how much Katsuki values quirks. He sees everyone else as lesser than him because of their "shitty quirks", and Izuku as well, a Deku, a nobody, because he has none. Honestly, it makes reading fanfics a little hard, because his viewpoint on this is literally in Chapter 1. Maybe it gets retconned, though. We'll see.
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I've seen some fanon interpretations that make Bakugou's lackeys Izuku's bullies, but they seem pretty reserved and more just like, followers in Chapter 1. I can understand why people do this - a lot of Early Bakugou's actions are horrible to straight up near irredeemable (cough cough swan dive), and it's easier to stomach his redemption arc when he didn't do those certain things.
Off topic though. This isn't a Bakugou hate post.
The All Might rooftop scene is one of the things many people bash on him for. But I can see where he's coming from. First of all, it's very possible he's just repeating what he was told as a child, and just like with Izuku, it's also possible that being offered OFA by Nana only solidified the thought that "Quirkless people can't be heroes."
Maybe it's just the way he grew up. We know he grew up in an era when crime was rampant, and it's very likely that people who didn't have combat-oriented quirks just... didn't make it. I can't think of any older heroes we see in the series besides Recovery Girl that both are alive and don't have combat quirks.
Even if All Might was in the wrong, to me, he immediately redeems himself by believing in Izuku afterwards, and helping him train. He doesn't write off Izuku saving Bakugou as recklessness, he sees it for what it is; budding heroism. At least that you can respect.
(I should mention: I see a lot of All Might bashing, but I really love All Might. In that respect, I'll probably be more than a little biased, because I hate seeing All Might get bashed for making mistakes! Why does he have to be a static perfect character for people to not hate him... sigh)
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I also see lots of criticism for the heroes in this scene! For Mount Lady... yeah, she's kind of wrong here. She can't get into the lane without causing property damage - why can't she just, not use her quirk? I guess it's just societal shit. Beyond her gigantification, she's basically fighting quirkless, which can be where her hangup is.
"But Izuku did it -" not really! He shocks the slime guy, sure, but who knows how long it'd last? Maybe I'm missing something, but it definitely seems like All Might's wind was their savior here. Reinforcing the idea that they did need "someone with the right quirk".
The other two seem reasonable to me. Kamui would get severely injured trying to help, and it's important to make sure those fires don't spread. Death Arms and the guy behind him are just straight useless though. Especially since he can't even do his job of making sure people don't run directly into the fight.
We see him doing it earlier too, so maybe that's just his job. Who knows. Combat heroes, rescue heroes, and border control.
I used to agree with this one stance that ragged on Izuku for only rushing in when he saw Katsuki's face - aka, someone close to him. But reading now, I think I understand what really happened: seeing Katsuki's expression, not his face (i.e. who he was), was what got Izuku.
Izuku sees Katsuki as proud; seeing that fear spurred him on. In that moment, all the pain Izuku endured; it doesn't matter.
"You looked like you needed saving."
More than likely, that doesn't just go for Katsuki. We see him demonstrate this over and over later in the series (i.e. Eri and Kota) so the principal here is - Izuku saw his face, and he moved, because Katsuki needed saving.
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More points in favor of All Might's case. He recognizes his failings and goes straight to Izuku to rectify it.
At first I thought this post would be for chapters 1-10, then the chapters up to the U.A. entrance exam, but I just couldn't shut up. So here you go. See you again next Wednesday, I think? Thanks for reading!
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class1akids · 1 year
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I really love the class A reaction to bkdk apology particularly shoto's expression, i don't understand why people think he was jealous, can we talk more about your take on shoto's expression and his pov regarding bkdk apology?
I think that a lot of people whose main fandom experience is bk//dk fanfics and meta have come to view the apology as a fundamentally romantic trope. Because even before it happened, that was a foundational aspect of bk//dk as a viable romantic relationship is that they work their issues out - so it was integrated into an overwhelming majority of the fanon in some way.
But if you go outside of that bubble and read Bakugou-centric works and meta of any flavour (gen or other ships), it becomes very clear that the apology itself, while pre-requisite for the ship, is not actually a romantic trope, but the logical endpoint of Bakugou's character growth. Because that was always an endgame for him as a hero and human being that once he realizes the wrongness of his past actions, he'll hold himself accountable, take responsibility and will try set things right.
That's the core of Bakugou's character: he wants to be the best hero and once he realizes that he himself is the biggest obstacle, he'll win over himself. This is also why the apology chapter's title is GEMGD - because that's Bakugou's hero starting line. The win over his past self.
Now obviously, for people who view the apology as inherently romantic, it's probably easy to mix in other popular fanfic tropes, such as jealousy and love rivalry. Unfortunately, there are a lot of bk//dk fanworks that feature Shouto in that love rival role (same true for td//dk fics and Bakugou, btw).
Also very unfortunately, people who are very deep into their ship-bubble, often end up with a very skewed impression of characters they are not interested in.
I think anyone who reads the manga and pays attention to Shouto as a character would quickly realize how ooc it would be for Shouto to be jealous. It is partially, because for him jealousy is a negative feeling that caused a lot of suffering in his family, so he visibly tried to eradicate that in himself, to the point where it's almost detrimental to his growth (in the way he doesn't do the whole noble jealousy that fuels productive rivalries that's the bread and butter of shonen). And I think it also has to do with how Shouto genuinely thinks the world of Izuku and wants everyone to hype him as much as he does. In this context, he's always spoken highly of the bk//dk childhood friends relationship. And I think if something makes Izuku happy, it makes Shouto happy (not necessarily in a ship way, but in a friend way - in the pure, childlike way Shouto experiences his friendship with Izuku).
Now, to Shouto's expression - I think his reaction is highlighted, because he's someone who can view this apology with a very informed and empathetic eye. Shouto is in the unique position of being close both to Izuku and Katsuki. You can argue that perhaps Kirishima is closer to Bakugou than he is, or that Iida and Uraraka are closer to Deku (debatable), but I don't think you can point to anyone else from the kids who is really close to both of them the way Shouto is.
We also spent a lot of time, in particular during the Remedial arc and the Endeavor internship to draw parallels between the bakudeku and Todo-fam dynamics. Shouto - who is an incredibly perceptive person - can obviously see how they struggle with re-forging a broken relationship that is fundamental to the both of them. And he can empathize with it - because he's going through it with his family.
If you look at Izuku's reaction to witnessing Endeavor's apology to Natsuo - you can see similar feelings:
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just watching with a knowing look, being very affected because of being able to put himself in situation and deduct that something meaningful and important is happening.
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The whole class is shook, but if you compare Shouto's expression with Satou's, he doesn't look surprised because having witnessed Bakugou's actions up close in the battlefield and the past months, I think he saw this coming and really sees it as something positive. An important step to rebuild from.
It's also interesting to note that he has a very similar expression watching the umbrella scene when he decides to give Endeavor another chance to go after Touya together:
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I feel that for Shouto both the apology and the umbrella scene are more about hope that broken connections (whether between Bakugou and Deku or between the heroes and civilians) can be reforged by taking those unlikely steps and giving unearned openings.
Of course, the Dabi reveal was in a way a set-back for the Todoroki family that was seemingly on the path towards healing. It exposed more brokenness. But I think in a way it's still a hopeful event, because Shouto has a brother who was dead and now he's alive, and maybe he'll get a chance to connect with him if he takes his own steps.
Shouto and the Todoroki family and the BakuDeku dynamics are always feeding off of each other, and because of how they keep witnessing key milestones in these relationship, it always adds an interesting emotional element to those milestones.
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astriddestelle · 7 months
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There’s nothing worst than not liking the most popular fandom/fanon headcanons cause then you’re left with like no fanfic to read unless you spend hours shifting through shit 😭😭
Like I hate Vigilante!Deku and dadzwa and almost every MHA fanfic involves some sort of the two. Or shinsou is a major character with a poor baby backstory like idgaf about that child. Or Deku is straight up a villain with the LOV like cool let’s gloss over all the murder they tried to commit and did.
Or Danny Phantom and everyone’s instance to cross it over with DC specifically Batman if I ever meet the person who started that 😤😤
Sigh.
This is why I stick with HP there’s so much more variety, and those people don’t go crazy with the tagging system so it’s easier to shift through shit
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prettyboykatsuki · 1 year
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i would love to be like "oh fanon doesn't matter," but if you spend any time in that tag the twinkifcation of deku and the alpha maleification of bkg is actually so frightening and thats like most of the tag so i do genuinely understand peoples like. apprehension towards bkdk so much.
i guess in that sense im techincally a dkbk but the point is that i see their relationship a little differently from popular fanon and it's just me the handful of mutuals who see them the same against the world.
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annalyticall · 1 month
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Saw your tags about MHA being a lesson in restraint when it comes to having different opinion than the fandom norm and please take this ask as an excuse to share your MHA thoughts <- I want to know them if you're willing to share
Oh ho ho I will gladly talk about how my MHA opinions differ from fandom thank you for the opportunity. That said I'm basing what 'fanon' is on what seems to be most popular in fan fics and popular posts I see on Twitter and Tumblr
Also I'm breaking this up into sections because I've noticed a lot of my fanon opinions tends to overlap
Fanon uses character interactions as proof of ships, cliques, or found families instead of considering each interaction as part of a narrative whole. Now, I know this isn't unique to MHA, every fandom does this to some extent, however with a cast as large as MHA's it's more prevalent when so many ships overlap. Each major or even minor interaction is "proof" of a ship being canon and is more or less valid than "proof" for other ships - meanwhile the narrative so rarely cares about romance (barring the Toga/Uraraka/Deku subplot) that arguing about any of that feels very pointless. Bakudeku shippers are the most guilty to me about this; for example, in a recent chapter when Deku thinks about how Iida held his hand and helped him feel calm (a moment that ties into the larger narrative theme of helping a lost child by taking their hand), I saw Bakudeku shippers try to pretend Deku was actually thinking about how much he wanted to hold Bakugo's hand since he never took it in their youth, despite that never being hinted at. I don't even dislike Bakugo or Bakudeku as a ship but it gets so grating when I see big moments for other characters get watered down because they don't fit a shipping lens, which goes doubly for MHA where the narrative supports the idea that everyone is important and everyone should help everyone no matter who they are to them.
While I'm beating the Bakudeku hornet's nest I might as well throw in my grievances with the Erasermic Family and its persistence in almost every. Single. Fic. Or at least the ones I read because Aizawa is one of my favorite characters, but so many Aizawa-related fics I've read seem intent on making Present Mic his husband and Shinsou his adopted son. Listen. Erasermic is fine. It's fine. I even like it from time to time. I just wish it wasn't a fanfic staple because I actually think their canon relationship of comfortable-yet-somewhat-strained old high school friends is much more interesting to explore, especially with the twist of Shirakumo's fate. It also cheapens Present Mic sometimes, because Present Mic is usually portrayed in these fics as... how should I say this... motherly? Wife-like. I don't like that. He's a silly goofy guy but he's also impulsive and angry and puts on a facade and that nuance almost never gets translated when he's transplanted into a domestic familial role with Aizawa. Shinsou being Aizawa's son also feels like it cheapens Shinsou's character arc in a way? I don't hate the son theory I guess but Aizawa clearly only trained him, not adopted him, and making Shinsou a "mini-me" of sorts tends to blur his actual character and motivations to be the same as Aizawa's when they're not. The only dynamic here that has any canon foothold is Aizawa being an adoptive father to Eri. I think Aizawa being a dad to most of the other kids is overblown sometimes but he will always be Eri's dad to me. Present Mic is like her goofy uncle.
Fanon loves making backstories too tragic. Two of the most popular fic tropes I see either makes Midoriya's mom abusive or gives Shinsou a muzzle and abusive foster family, which... okay, one thing I really love about MHA canon is that everyone has a good reason for what they do and everyone suffers a little hardship due to the way society is all in varied and relatable ways. Characters like Midoriya and Shinsou DO suffer in canon but not any more than being bullied in middle school for their quirk or lack of quirk, which I think works well enough for two boys who still aspire to be good and still have some faith in the system that hurt them like most people in this universe do. Characters like Toga, Twice, and Shigaraki already have plenty of tragedy to justify their villainy, as well as Hawks who also has a tragic backstory and serves as a hero counter for them, so it doesn't appeal to me to so often give that pain tenfold to characters who don't fit those roles beyond a what-if exercise.
Fanon takes things characters say at face value and accepts the most shallow interpretation of a character. This is especially true for liars like Dabi and Hawks, who often say one thing and mean another. It's not as much of a problem at current since both Hawks and Dabi are probably at their most authentic in canon right now, but it's still an issue in fics I read where Hawks is presented genuinely as a flirty and cocky hero and Dabi is presented genuinely as someone who doesn't care about anyone but himself. It's really frustrating when something I love about Hawks is his nuanced interactions with almost every other character, which are always glossed over in his discourse. I'll give two of the most glaring examples:
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I've almost never seen a take about this scene that justifies why Hawks does this - I usually only see comments about how he's getting into Todoroki's space, isn't aware of personal boundaries, or is being too nosy in the family drama. To me, the answer to why he does this is clearly deeper: he's dropping his laid-back facade and asking a serious question all while putting himself in Todoroki's shoes and planting himself firmly on Todoroki's side. He wants an answer to the scar because the answer is important to him; if Endeavor was the one who inflicted it, it would have tarnished the view he had of his old hero because Hawks knows what it's like to have an abusive father. This is only further cemented when later on Hawks says Todoroki is better than he is because Todoroki is finding it within himself to help the parents who hurt him, unlike Hawks, who feels he abandoned his own.
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There's also this and other panels during the fight with Twice ("I'll be sure to tell that to the league") where Hawks seems to be rubbing salt in the wound and overall being a dick about betraying Twice's trust, and I've seen the interpretation here that Hawks is simply being a dick because he is one. And, I mean, this isn't to say that Hawks can't be a dick sometimes, but in the moment it feels like a culmination of two things: 1. Half of this interaction is framed through Twice's POV, so of course we're seeing the worst of Hawks here, and 2. Hawks is intentionally distancing himself from the Hawks he knows would have gladly been Twice's friend, because he knows there's a chance he might have to kill him. Whenever we're in Hawks' head during this fight, it's always focusing on how much he doesn't want to fight Twice and how much hope he has for things to turn out for the better. When he finally makes up his mind that he can't turn it in his favor, he turns cold and harsh again, probably as a coping mechanism similar to Lady Nagant's. Also frustrating when people use this as an example of in-universe police brutality when in actuality Hawks is a groomed child soldier acting very hesitantly to fulfill government orders. Those two issues are not the same.
Oversimplification isn't contained to Dabi and Hawks, though. Kaminari flirts sometimes so all he is is a flirt, Midoriya cries sometimes so he's submissive and weak, Iida is bossy sometimes so he's a goody-two-shoes stick-in-the-mud. One-note fanon characterizations plague almost every character and that does almost none of the actual characters justice. Any character with more relevance than, say, Ojiro has more than one side to them in canon that doesn't get captured all that much in fanon.
Fanon overanalyzes things that are Shonen convention. It's funny, on one hand, I think fanon interprets characters too shallowly, and on the other, I think it reaches far too deep to draw conclusions where the actual answer is "because the author wanted it." Aizawa and All Might bear the brunt of this mischaracterization because they're the main adults in this series, so all of their missteps feel overanalyzed to prove an abuse of authority when actually it's just irrational decisions made to keep the story moving forward. "All Might was irresponsible for telling a quirkless kid he didn't have a chance at becoming a hero and leaving him alone on a roof" I guarantee you the implications of that was probably not even a thought when that scene was written, and if it was, All Might certainly wouldn't have assumed them or else he would have dealt with that differently. "Aizawa is a bad teacher for not expelling Bakugo after he almost killed Deku in their first test" if he expelled Bakugo or had properly dealt with their toxic relationship earlier we would not have a story. "Aizawa is a bad teacher for not expelling Mineta for being a creepy weirdo" if he expelled Mineta then Horikoshi wouldn't have his favorite comic relief pervert archetype. Sometimes we just have to say "Horikoshi wanted this to happen so that's why it happened that way" and move on.
Fanon has selective memory and short attention span. Maybe this is just because there seemed to be a falling off of fandom participation around the time of Season 5, but a lot of fanon I've seen seems stuck in pre-season 5 era characterizations, sometimes even pre-Season 3. Bakugo and Endeavor both have some of the best character developement in the series, and Aizawa also has a lot of subtle growth, but people tend to focus on how bad Bakugo and Endeavor were in Season 1-3 and how good Aizawa is in Season 4, even though Aizawa was also kind of an asshole Season 1-3. It tends to lead to some cartoonishly evil takes on Bakugo and Endeavor and overly-saccharine takes on "Dad"zawa. I say this also as someone who loves Aizawa and is fairly neutral on Bakugo and Endeavor, but I just don't think fanon takes in the whole picture of their character arc sometimes.
Those are my big umbrella opinions, I have more minute ones (especially regarding Iida, Aizawa, and Hawks) but I've already ranted long enough. I know a lot of this comes down to a young fanbase but to be honest the people I tend to disagree the most with are my age so I can't chalk it all up to that lol. Anyways thanks for the chance to rant!
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bicheetopuff · 2 years
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So I made a post some months back. It was my most popular post for a while, not sure why but, it was. But in light of the new chapter I wanted to bring it back up.
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At the time, this post had shippy connotations and still does but, I want to talk about the bigger part of the post. I’m sure we can all agree that the picture that chapter 370 is painting is far more important than any possible canonicity of a fanon pairing. I got a lot of reblogs on this post talking what I put in tags so I’d like to extend my point.
I saw people talking about how this chapter is boring and not important and I felt disappointed… but I realized why they feel like that. Because this part of the story isn’t relatable to everyone. It’s the same reason people call Deku a bad MC. The same reason most of the western audience reduces Uraraka to just a love interest. The reason why people find it hard to empathize with and understand Touya or Bakugou. They can’t relate and are only here for the fight scenes. Which is fine. We’re all products of our environments and experiences so yea it’s okay to not find a certain plot line relatable but to say that it’s boring and “not important to the story” is saying that you’re unable to make out the bigger meaning and you’re kinda invalidating the real people that have actually experienced persecution.
The biggest conflict in mha arguably is the way people of authority treat others based on their looks, quirks, and talent. And we can take Bakugou and Hawks as examples for why mindless praise and ego strokes at such a young age can be just as bad as being looked down upon and bullied. They’re different experiences but both resulted in toxic mindsets about themselves and changed the mindsets of the people around them as well (the hero commission seeing hawks’ talent and training him to be a warrior essentially [like nagant but her experience started much older], bakugous friends and teachers praising him to the point where his ego inflated and causing the people around him, including his parents, to believe that he’s an untouchable force that never and shouldn’t need help [minus deku, which is where their conflict came from]).
The mutant rebellion is just a more obvious way of telling what’s been going on for the entire story. Which goes back to the tag in my original post:
I think the morals of the story is why it’s [mha] is more attractive towards POC, the lgbt community, those that have been looked down upon for being different, or people that have experienced having expectations they couldn’t reach being thrown on their shoulders…
What’s being explained in this chapter isn’t just some plot device. It’s a moral that’s applicable to real life and you saying it’s not important makes you look like a prick. And it’s not just an issue amongst individuals, it’s an issue highly influenced by celebrities and government officials. Making it a systemic and societal issue, just like it’s being portrayed in mha.
tl;dr
If you can’t relate to anything that’s going on or being said in the recent chapter and you don’t like it, shut the hell up and skip the chapter. Let the people who can relate gain a little bit more respect for Horikoshi for even thinking about addressing an issue this blatantly.
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kiisaes · 1 year
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top ten for MHA 😅
ohhhhhh
deku
bakugou (these two are obvious, lol. deku is my ultimate favorite hands down, even if bkg's arc and characterization appeal to me more)
dabi (through sheer backstory alone. i feel like his character was built up well and the reveal wasn't like .. shocking or anything, but was really impactful regardless. it enhances the entire todoroki fam drama i was already eating up before!!! every time i learn more about him and his history, i like him more LOL. hard to explain how i like him exactly, but reading through his backstory chapters is a guilty pleasure of mine. doesn't help that i can relate to him. lol. el oh el.)
uraraka (i think i like my interpretation of her more than her canon character, though. i can't tell what hori is doing with her rn so i'm basing my liking of her off of what i think he's doing? which is making her a subversion of the love interest trope and making her attraction to deku a mere stepping stone for her own development. i also really like her design and quirk hehe)
kirishima (kirishima backstory is one of my favorites; insecure, down on himself, overall average and dorky guy wants to better himself because he's inspired by those in his life. his view on masculinity is also very fun and comforting, a break from "strong must mean stoic" bullshit u'd expect from a character whose quirk is the embodiment of strength. i like canon kiri more than fanon kiri though .. sometimes i feel like fanon detracts from his character a lot lol)
hawks (ever since i realized his character literally represents "a caged bird" my appreciation for him went up 100% ... he's a little fucked up ... but what can he say ... he's an optimist!)
shouto (pretty hard to dislike him. he was higher on my list before, but he sunk a bit after my appreciation for other characters grew. it's not that i like him less though!!! just waiting for something crazy to happen with him so my love will skyrocket again)
toga (exciting character who's a play on the yandere character trope! i like how her arc connects to ochako's and the "chemistry" they have. still think toga confessing to deku out of nowhere was goofy as hell but that's neither here nor there. i feel like a lot of ppl like toga just bc of how she looks and her personality, and i'm ... not immune to that LOL it's indeed really fun to witness)
and everyone past this is relatively equal to each other, imo. there's so many characters in mha that it's nearly impossible to parse through all of them and pick my top 10. so i picked 8 that stick out to me for their own reasons, characters i find genuinely interesting and that i read the series for
not to mention, a lot of characters don't really hold much weight at all, especially compared to the protags. hence there's less of an actual reason why i like them, and it moreso falls on their design or vibes. i don't really dislike many characters either — either i like them or i'm neutral to them, aka they're fine, they just don't take up much thought. i only hate characters that are insultingly unnecessary, like mineta
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For you follower event (and this can be a rapid fire answer thing if you like but): opinions on all the Wizard Kings that we know of (from Lumiere to Julius)?
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Hiya Erika 😁! Ooo so I’ll go from my favorite to least favorite, first thing that comes to mind, and then expand on it! Also I apologize, but in one of these I’m gonna be very blunt and firm reminder that this is MY opinion 😅:
Julius: “You sit on a throne of lies!” and “I knew you were trouble when you walked in!” (Wonder how many will know the references 😆!)
Lumiere: Sweet Marshmallow that needs to be protected!
Princia: Scary badass who reminds me of a combination of Erza Scarlet and Mereoleona!
Conrad: Interesting magic, could be considered overpowered, sad background. Reminds me of Levi from AOT…for some reason??
Edward: Don’t have much thoughts, didn’t know his name the entire movie, but is the adopted grandpa of the Black Bulls!
Jester: Annoying punk that wore out his welcome, and I just couldn’t wait for him to die and go away (I am so sorry to all those that like Jester it’s just my opinion 😭!)!
Okay, now that’s out of the way I’ll get a little more “in depth”:
Julius: Even though all the stuff in the manga I still love him 😔. Now funny enough, when he first appeared in the anime, I just had a gut feeling he was gonna be the ultimate bad guy or would somehow betray the kingdom, so I was weary of him/of liking him. But then the anime went on and nothing happened so I thought he was going to stay a good guy…until i started reading the Manga and that big twist with Lucius happened 😆! Now I feel like I’ve been lied too ahwkwwksi!!!
Lumiere: I adore him so much 🤧, he just makes me think of Deku from BHA and Asta but a little more…calm 😆! I like how, desipte being a Royal, doesn’t hold any prejiduce or hate towards elves, commoners, or peasants. He believes everyone she live in a world where they’re happy and respected and can live in peace. While also having the same chances and opportunities as the Royals/Nobles! Honestly I wish we got to see him more 😭!
Princia: She reminded me a lot of Mereo, but at the same time reminded me of Erza from Fairy Tail (maybe because of her magic and her armor 🤔), but I thought she was very cool and wish they had expanded on her background a bit more in the movie instead of in a magazine 😭. Because her background seemed so interesting!
Conrad: I liked his magic, and it seemed very cool and interesting. It did seem a little…overpowered, but that’s fine, because Asta was able to cancel it out! Again, I wish they had expanded on his background and what happened to him in the movie, but from what I read I can’t help but feel bad for him. Especially after what happened to his wife 😔!
Edward: I honestly had no idea what his name was until someone said it after the movie released, and he felt kind of…forgetable 😅. But I loved his spells and their names, and after reading his background I understood why they were themed/centered around the church/religion because he used to be a Father of an Orphange like Father Orsi! But I prefer him in Fanon where he becomes the adopted grandpa to the Black Bulls 😆!
Jester: Oh boy…I’m gonna be extremely blunt and again, this is my opinion: I could not stand him. At all. Period. Dead stop. He was extremely annoying during the entire movie and was just…not a fun character to me (if he’s your favorite then that’s fine! I’m glad you like him and fully support you 🥰!). His magic was so-so to me, and the only good/interesting things about him were his background and the way he got all of my faves to team up against him. But otherwise…he was my least favorite character in the movie, and possibly the entire series 😅!
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veg-hotwings · 2 years
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Inaccuracies to Japanese culture in MHA fanfics
Necessary (?) disclaimer: this is just my personal taste, so don't come at me pls. If you have some pacific inputs, tho, I'd be thrilled to read them.
Mind that most of this stuff is because I have a major degree in Japanese culture and language, and I've lived and studied there for some time, so I'm quite sensitive to how people write about Japan. I'm not saying that the way I experienced Japan and its culture is how everybody perceives it, still there are many things that clash with what I studied and lived.
I know My Hero Academia is set in the future and that it's not real, but you can see through the manga that some cultural things didn't change in MHA's setting, so that's my starting point.
I know that people write because they like it, to enjoy themselves and nobody is forced to do researches about Japan; still, some things itch me nonetheless.
I'm saying this, but it doesn't mean that I can't enjoy the ff I'm reading because of these inaccuracies, I do most of the time, especially if it's well written.
Now, let's get to it:
GEOGRAPHY
I lost count of how many times I've read about Hawks travelling from the HPSC (which presumibly is near Musutafu, Shizuoka (22) Prefecture, where the UA is, or Tokyo (13) to Fukuoka (40) and vice-versa like it was nothing more than a stroll. They're not round the corner, it takes time to get there, even for the fastest hero (2 hours by plane from Tokyo, 5 hours by shinkansen).
And speaking of geography, let's put the Todorokis' mansion on the table. It's in Musutafu, so Endeavor takes his car to his agency and Shoto to school. This is relevant because of Endeavor's position in the hero society, he needs to live near the biggest cities to have such high case closure rates. Hawks was raised in the outskirts of Fukuoka, so it just rubs me the wrong way when I read childhood friends AU where little Keigo and Touya casually meet. I know it's an AU of a fanon ship (which I love), but it just doesn't feel right to me. I can't picture the Todorokis, the perfect family, speaking in Hakata dialect, living far from the capital or from UA. Keigo was an outcast, these two realities collide.
Shiketsu too. This school is in the West (in the Kyoto (26) area, I suppose), so it wouldn't be possible for AU Touya to just go to school there by car, he'd need to take a long train ride or to move to Shiketsu's dorms.
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CULTURE
Sometimes there are just so many references to US culture I wonder if I missed a tag placing the story in the US instead of Japan. I understand that it's easier for a lot of people to find the story entertaining this way, but Japan is an important part of the story itself. The Hero culture and hero names too are often US-inspired, but not always, think about Tsukuyomi, Shinrin Kamui or even Deku.
Colleges in AUs are often treated too much like stereotypical US colleges. I even read about red paper cups for party drinks like it's what you find on every campus in the world. I've asked some friends studying at university in Japan and they confirmed that the depition was quite off.
This applies to music too. Everybody almost always uses English or American songs, and I get it, we understand the lyrics, they speak more directly and deeply to the reader. But Japan has a huge music culture and sub-culture, and it'd be nice to see that sometimes.
At times I've read about western style wedding ceremonies in the woods, but it's very odd in Japan. We can assume Endeavor and Rei's wedding was celebrated according to the Shinto rite (Endeavor's quite traditional in that sense), but usually Japanese people who want a western wedding do both the celebration and the reception in specific halls (結婚式場 kekkonshiki-jō); there are ads everywhere in Japan for these places. It's not uncommon that couples celebrate with both rites though (Shinto and western) but in different places and not always on the same day.
On a minor note, sometimes characters that are related are just too physical with each other. In the MHA universe they canonically seem more open to physical contact than in present Japan, but still sometimes it's just too much. It's not common to hug even your own children (my host family confirmed this to me, just saying).
NAMES
We all know Japanese is a complex language, but I just can't when I read a parent in a fic using a suffix like "-kun" to their own child. That's not how it works. "-kun" is used among male pairs (excuse Iida, he's just too formal) outside the family unit (this is a key concept in Japanese language, the distinction between "inner" circle, called uchi, and "outer" circle called soto). So no, Rei can't call Touya "Touya-kun". And neither Natsuo, who calls him Niisan (older brother). The ""exception"" (more or less) is "-chan". Parents call their kids (in kindergarden, until primary school usually) -chan with an abbreviation of their name, like Katsuki > Kacchan. For girls it's just a cute, intimate thing (think about Tsuyu calling everybody -chan and requiring her classmates to call her so, that's why Izuku is so uncomfortable using that nickname).
And speaking of abbreviations, too often they're based on Western ways to create them. The best example of this is Fuyumi 冬美. Her name's kanjis are fuyu (winter) and mi (beauty), so her nickname should be "Fuyu" and not "Yumi" like I read 90% of the time. Maybe it sounds foreign to you, but it's correct. Touya too. Adding an -o (Toyo) is so US/Australian, it sounds so strange to me. Shiggy, Nat, Toy, Keigs, Dabs, Dabsters... they're all western-style nicknames. I'm fond of them, but they sound strange if I stop and think that the story is based in Japan.
MISC
Housing: fire escapes are not as common as one could think. There are often external stairs in small apartment buildings, but they're public, in the sense they're used by tenants to reach their floors. Same for balconies. There's not a balcony culture in Japan, it's more of a European thing, and usually only big houses have them. This is the one I always close an eye on and that bugs me the least, but it's not very accurate.
Money: this is so funny. I swear I've read about dollars. In Japan. Dollars. Sometimes I've also read yen treated like it was dollars, while completely disregarding the exchange rate (usually 1$ is 132¥ more ore less), or giving things the wrong prices (like a cigarette pack worth 200¥ when it costs roughly 450¥).
Driving: in Japan they drive on the left side of the road, but I can't recall a single fic where the driver's seat was appointed to be on the right side of the car.
It's really not a surprise that "Paper Mountains, Glass Seas" is my favourite series ever.
Apart from being wonderfully written, it makes Japan so tangible and recognizable. @bittermoonswrites goes all the way talking about expats life, language, culture, art in such a human, relatable and itimate way it's unreal.
It's a more adult fic, with contemporary themes, and I don't look for this kind of accuracy all the time, especially in canon-verse fics, but it's so nice and refreshing when I read about small, precious details that ground the story in Japan.
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