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[class1akids]

Honestly at this point it's our own fault for expecting to not be disappointed by theses chapters apperantly hori can only gives good moments to irrelevant characters therefor said moments are also irrelavent and don't have the impact they would have if given to someone that mattered

I've come to not expect anything else really anytime hori does something axtuly good it's followed by a million not (his characters and stories have so much potential and there all wasted like way are fanfics so much more impact full than the main story 😢

Although I'm a little confused as to what happened to the todorokis?

The leaks came in truly bad quality this week, but even so, it's evident that Hori is still trying to "hide" what happened fully.

All we know for sure is:

Endeavor and Shoto were awake enough to respond to the back-up call and come through the portals (this to me is not a surprise. Shoto especially is in relatively good condition. He only overstretched his quirk but had time for cooldown).

They come from two different portals, but at the same time to do a Flashfire Fist to drive back AFO away from Izuku. (It's a pretty basic move for both of them, and not very powerful, and it maybe because they are down to the last scraps or because of the crowd, they can't do AoE moves).

And then there is this cryptic flashback:

It looks like the robots are putting Rei (?) on a stretcher, while Natsuo is still moving. Toya is hidden. Using pikahlua's TL because the scanlation look inaccurate:

"Quickly, to where Recovery Girl is...!" "The old lady is also at her limit with injured persons... Whether or not anything can be done..."

-> This could refer to either Rei or Toya (or likely both) - basically implying that they are in critical condition and the family is trying to get them to Recovery Girl...

Then Natsuo says - I think talking to specifically to Enji (because he uses "anta") and not to Shoto:

"Even with you here, mom and the others will only be hot."

This confirms pretty much that Toya is there too.

Enji hesitated whether to take the portal or go with his family.

Natsuo basically says that there is nothing Enji can do and his presence could be even harmful - implying that Enji is still overheated (which if you look at both Shoto's and Endeavor's pupilless eyes makes me wonder if they absorbed a lot of Toya's heat)

"So go. Even if it's [just] a little, if you can muster [any] strength..."

Even if it's just a litte is written over Enji's panel, which may imply that he's on his last fumes and his presence here is not necessarily to boost the fight, but for whatever narrative conclusion purpose

if you can muster [any] power - this part is on Shoto's panel. As the Japanese uses "chikara", as in the famous "kimi no chikara" moment between Deku and Shoto, I'm guessing it foreshadows a more powerful attack from Shoto at a later stage (which could include a quirk upgrade if he absorbed Toya's heat - it would make sense or it could include a combo with Toya if he'll show up, which I have a strong feeling he will).

So I think the important thing is that Toya's fate, just like Toga's is left in limbo, as well as there is a strong sense that the Todorokis are running here on fumes, just like everyone else.

My personal feeling is that Hori is setting up a quite hopeless fight with a moment where the star arrivals to the battlefield will be the LoV (possibly because Kurogiri decides that this is the boost Tomura needs), and it will be the tipping point to bring Tomura back who will be essential in stopping / defeating AFO together with Deku (and maybe the other Origins - Bakugou and Shoto).

Bringing in the LoV would achieve tying in the efforts to save Toga and Toya (and Spinner) into the final main conflict, tying together Deku reaching Tenko's/Tomura's fused desire to be the hero of the villains and also for the civilians to see the villains fight against the big bad. It could also foster final conclusion of the big character arcs, including for Enji, Toya and Shoto.

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[class1akids]

What would you have changed with toga’s arc?

I don't care enough about Toga to think about it too deeply. I also don't think Horikoshi is capable of writing a realistic f/f dynamic. Rant under the cut.

To me, Toga was most interesting in her LoV dynamics - with Twice, with Compress, with Dabi.

I find her dynamic with Ochako to resemble a lot of really toxic dynamics I experienced with (girl) friends. It's a kind of emotional vampirism where your entire existence is about validating someone's constant problems to the detriment to your own well-being and they get to freely hurt you if you don't respond exactly how they want you to.

And Hori romanticized this (well, more like horny-arted), as well as made it the pinnacle of her heroine's heroism.

I think the change would have had to come on Ochako's side. Especially because she's never shown to care about anyone but Deku before, her obsession with going to extreme lengths for Toga needed more build-up than "I saw her cry".

Anyways, I continue to dislike this storyline personally. And I find the hype around it really agenda-driven with the whole "Ochako deserves better than Deku - let's stick her with the girl who almost killed her".

I don't really like iz/ocha either btw, so I have no skin in this particular fight, but I just don't vibe at all with this storyline and find it disturbing on many levels.

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[class1akids]

"He is like me" vs "He is me..."

So I guess the ultimate question is whose shadow is Touya? The answer will decide his fate...

Endeavor claims that Touya is just like him, which I think is part of the reason he can't truly believe he can be saved (just like Enji doesn't think he himself can be saved). With Hood, he tried to kill his shadow, with Touya, he can't think of anything else but die with him.

In this context, Touya getting his ice awakening feels like such a tragic moment. A last hurrah, just to rub it into Endeavor's face that he ruined his family over nothing. A last nail in a coffin already full of nails. Touya was always perfect. But it's too late because he'll never give up. Ironically, the ice is the final proof for Endeavor that he can't be saved. He's succumbing to hopelessness, and plays out the inevitable tragedy.

But I feel like Endeavor is misunderstanding everything once again. Touya's awakening is not about that. It is hugely symbolic that after - for the first time in his life - he imitated something other than his father (Shouto's Phosphor), at death's door, ice is flowing out of his heart to remind us that Touya is more than Endeavor's shadow, more than just the culmination of his sins, more than the monster of his own creation.

Just like the other kids, Touya is a unique mix of his parents, he's part Rei, he's part ice, he has had in his heart hope for the family and kept trying until he broke, just like his mom. And maybe feeling his mom's quirk, internalizing that he's more than just a failed experiment of his father, more than a manifestation of his murderous flames, he will be able to connect with the ice-users of the family. See their power and strength. He will see that he's his mother's son, Natsuo's and Fuyumi's "Touya-nii". Maybe, just maybe he will start to gain a sense of his full self.

And importantly, maybe he can start to realize that he's not that different from Shouto. He's a masterpiece too. Someone who can decide their own reason to exist. Someone who can change and be saved.

The ice comes out like a small flower, the first sign of stubborn life after a devastating forest fire on Sekoto peak. It's the symbol of a hopeful ending.

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[class1akids]

Am I the only one that finds it weird that the shoto - dabi fight is the one that has the least child visuals between them toga-uraraka and deku-shigaraki.

I think it weird bc unlike the other two dabi and shoto have a lot of similarities between their childhoods and their anger towards their father so child visuals would have been imapctfull bc it isn't just about saving the other but it's about the fact that shoto understand dabi.

We only got one visual of them as kids but it didn't hit hard bc that wasn't how they were feeling (at least on the outside) at that point the fight was between dabi the villain and shoto the hero

Neither was looking at the other in a sentimental way (at that point)

I disagree that it didn't hit. It's true that it wasn't sentimental, but Touya is different from Toga and Tenko. His child "origin self" is a grumpy 13-year old.

I think in the fight between Dabi and Shoto, the question was whether there was even a "Toya" anymore to dig out or did that boy die on Sekoto peak. Dabi says that Toya "died" when he went home and found no change - which means that this boy who kept believing that his family would look at him if he kept trying lost hope at that point and was living for revenge.

Shoto showing up, making a move for him, forcing him to look his way achieved in the end that we finally saw Toya's inner self come through, we saw that he's still very much just a crying boy desperate to be still seen.

I think that the child selves we see here manifest actually what they are doing in the real world perfectly. Toya is still desperate to prove himself. Shoto is a child fighting for his family. The image is tragic and in the next chapter you see the devastation on Shoto's face - how hard this was for him. And I think it is left on this note because next we go to Endeavor, the man who didn't show up for Toya and who is not there while his sons are engaged in a death battle. So I think this is the mood that this image aims at, and it's not cute or sentimental, but I think it hits really hard. At least for me, it does.

And yeah, maybe it would be easier if we saw them do some kind of cute play-fight or whatever, but because saving Toya is the job of the entire family, we don't get this image until they all show up for him (primarily his father who wronged him). And because Toya is the "family villain", not only Shoto's villain, this child-image gets spread around. Toya sees his child self surrounded by his family and then he also sees Shoto as a child.

I think that means something, and I hope Hori will follow this up later - and it will lead to more connection between Shoto and Toya.

It's harder for them than any of the other "pairs", because while Toga and Tomura sought out Ochako and Izuku and they both just someone / anyone to show up and accept them, that's not what Touya needs.

His inner child is older, and not only he never wanted Shouto, he represents to Touya "Endeavor's masterpiece", the replacement, the reason he was thrown away. Shouto is probably the last person Touya wants. It's not as simple as them bonding over hating their dad. Shouto does validate Touya's anger (but not his methods) and he's trying to find common points between them. But bonding over rage would be counterintuitive to what the narrative tells us about negative emotions. Shouto has been ruled for long by his rage too and took him a lot of work to change. I think that Touya needed to be confronted with Shouto's change - and feel that literally on himself when he copied Phosphor. Phosphor is Shouto's self-expression, his healing, his heart - and Touya being able to copy that I think means that there is still hope for him.

So considering how Shouto had nothing Touya wanted, the fact that he was able to dig out Touya's child self from under Dabi's rage and then make him see Shoto not as a puppet, but as a real crying child / brother as well is hard-earned connection between them.

Not as cute maybe as the others, but to me it really means the world. I think just because the no-jutsu is not easy in their case doesn't mean that what happened is less important.

I still have hope that Shouto will get his narrative reward too in a more direct depiction of connection. If Hori thought Toya was irredeemable, and was planning to make him die full of hate, I don't think he would have drawn Touya as a child at all.

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[class1akids]

I totally get your point on how the adults should have prevented Eri from cutting her horn off, but on the other hand if Eri was prevented and Izuku never healed, how would she feel? Not to mention this is an emergency situation and Izuku is their most important player in this game. If Izuku stayed in that condition we don't know what would happen. Still wrong either way, but for this particular situation there are more people's lives on the line because it is technically the endgame.

There are others ways to keep him alive. When Mirko got her limbs cut off, BJ tied it up with a rope and she kept fighting - because she was another disposable character needed to tear herself into pieces for another male character.

Deku didn't need to lose his arms - Hori wrote that for shock value and painting a disturbed, traumatized child clearly suffering from survivor guilt to potentially sacrifice her quirk (an integral part of who she is) for him as "heroic", while grown ass men stand around or give up sweaty T-shirts is wrong.

Deku did not compromise on his resolve to save Tomura even though the entire world was at stake and killing him wasn't even discussed as an option, but a 6-year old being mutilated by an adult - as long as it's for Deku - is ok for you.

It just shows btw how much Eri is nothing but a literal plot device in this story nobody really cares about.

Everyone has their lines. I personally cannot think of any circumstance where a 6-year old should have to sacrifice an integral part of herself for a choice made by someone else. It was Deku's choice to throw any caution to the wind to save Tenko (where he rejected other villains just fine) and I don't think it's right that someone who he's supposedly protecting should need to cut herself to pieces to bail him out.

I get the themes, I get the point Hori is trying to make, but I think it's wrong and indefensible to make a 6-year old do this to herself. And I'd like to think that the real Deku wouldn't be ok with this either.

Her wanting to become a singer at the age of 6 is a ridiculous excuse. People who met real-world children know that their future profession is rarely decided before they even start primary school. Eri on top of it is a traumatized child who was kept in captivity for years and because of that she's even more vulnerable and should be protected.

If I sound angry, it's because I am and I find this fandom's moral selectiveness rather upsetting.

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[class1akids]

Did you watch the new live action of ATLA ? Recently I've seen the live action and animated version of ATLA and all i can see is that the parallels between Zuko and shoto are insane?!

No, I haven't watched it. I've spent a few years in the ATLA fandom, I love the show, but I have been pretty disappointed in LoK and the comics, so I have no desire to see any further spin-offs and re-thinking and just want to keep the original in my head in its near-perfection.

I think I've written also about Zuko and Shouto - this question comes up a lot. There are a some parallels between them, but I think they come from common literary and manga tropes:

Abusive family

Toxic father / daddy issues

Absent mother / mother issues

Facial scar as symbol of pain endured

Healing arc

Found family

Ruined sibling relationship with a sibling possessing blue fire due to shared abuse / toxic family

Fire powers that unlock with healing

Unconventional use of fire power that symbolizes healing (Zuko's lightning redirect and Shouto's Phosphor)

But if you look beyond these tropes, I think the psychology between them is very different:

Zuko is a "black sheep" / failure character, desperate for his father's approval. In his attempt to earn that approval, he does pretty bad things, betrays his uncle and needs to go on a redemption arc to learn to let go of the need for his blood father's approval and embrace the father who truly raised him - Iroh.

Shouto by contrast is a "golden child" / "masterpiece" character (more like Azula in that sense), but he's never after his father's approval. His arc is about gaining autonomy and sense of self, healing, forgiving and reconnecting with his family. And his ultimate challenge is not to let go of his need for his family, but to learn to accept that in order to find himself, Shouto needs to learn to see and accept his father as a flawed human being as well.

Just think of their endgames. Zuko's endgame is to reject his father and walk away. Shouto's endgame is keep fighting for his family despite every let-down and rejection.

So I think despite the many similarities, both arcs deep down are quite different and unique. In ATLA Zuko and Azula both develop and change, Ozai stays as a static, one-dimensional evil character. In the Todoroki family, everyone is more dynamic. Shouto, Touya and Endeavor all change, but so does Rei, Fuyumi and Natsuo. While Zuko has Iroh’s unconditional love to counterbalance Ozai, Shouto has no “Iroh” character to guide him. Even if you could argue that All Might’s inspiration is the counterbalance to Endeavor’s abuse, All Might is quite a distant figure for Shouto. So his journey in that way is more about understanding and assimilating the human characteristics of both Endeavor and All Might into his own end goal of who he wants to be.

The ATLA Fire family is about Zuko's coming to terms that he'll never get the family he wanted. The Todoroki family is about coming together and reconnecting a fractured family.

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[class1akids]

could you explain to me bakugou and todorokis friendship bc I don't really understand it.

I imagine bakugou would remind shoto of endeavor which would stear him away. Especially bc at the start it wasn't just talk specifically with deku. And I feel like todoroki of all people would recognize bakugou as a bully . Not to mention what bakugou said to todoroki before the sports festival (and while yes I know deku said the same thing, it pissed todoroki off and todoroki only responded positively when deku said something affirming).

And from bakugous side, todoroki made him insecure bc from bakugous perspective he was effortlessly better than him in every way and we saw with bakugous apology to deku that this feeling never went away. Bakugi was always challenging deku and todoroki only while he was "normal" to the rest of the class b deku and todoroki were the only ones that made him feel threatened. And then when bakugou started changing (the same time endevour did) he realised just how simlliar he is to endeavor and that's who he will become if he doesn't change his mindset. And sharing similaraties to todorokis abuser I can imagine would deter him from that friendship even more as it would enhance his quilt.

Now I will admit I don't understand bakugous character as well as other which is why I maybe struggling to understand this friendship.

You are actually explaining quite well their starting points. Out of everyone in the class, they are definitely not friends at first (well, neither of them have friends at the start and neither of them think they want friends - fools). As they both grow and change, their perspective changes too and it's a bit of a slow burn, but I'd say they are already more or less friends by the end of the remedial classes / start of the Endeavor internship (though Bakugou still furiously denies it), and they are definitely good friends by post-PLF War, when Izuku leaves UA.

As you say, initially Todoroki is someone who shakes Bakugou's confidence and increases his insecurities further by focusing on Izuku rather than him as "rival". While Shouto barely acknowledges Bakugou's existence. Even after Shouto beat Deku, he keeps thinking about him, because he challenged him at the core of his ideals, while Bakugou is unable to reach that part of Shouto yet.

So the SF final happens the way it does - a failure for both of them in a way. Bakugou walks away thinking that Todoroki looks down on him and is angry about it, while Shouto senses that he hurt Bakugou, but he doesn't really know what to do about it.

Things slowly start to change in the Forest arc, with Shouto's clumsy attempts to interact with Bakugou, then them being paired in the fight against Moonfish which gives them more insight into each other. And Shouto being a co-instigator of the Bakugou rescue, their move in the dorm, and quickly they are at the licensing exam which they both fail.

Then the remedial classes start - and while we only saw a single class, this is something they did every week for months, just the two of them, going to that class, having to go through the humiliation together. It's a forced proximity where they first annoy each other, but they also give each other a safe way to work on themselves and on the difficult relationships they need to fix for their own growth.

Bakugou has quite a few similarities with Endeavor, but there are also big differences: there is no power imbalance between them and Bakugou never abused Shouto. In fact, Bakugou's attitude is completely wasted on Shouto - he's never intimated of him. But observing Bakugou, seeing his strong points - like his great battle tactics, perseverance, quirk mastery, ambition - gives Shouto a chance to observe these characteristics his father also has, and disentangle them from it belonging to Endeavor, to seeing their value and seeing them as tools he could use for himself without becoming his father.

On the other side, Bakugou gets to interact with Todoroki, who has a lot of similarities to Izuku. Underneath his blunt demeanour, Shouto is also ridiculously kind to the people who hurt him and most importantly, he's an abuse victim too. He can be both at the same time - insanely strong, someone Bakugou sees as equal, and also someone who is a victim of abuse. And because Bakugou didn't hurt Shouto, interacting with him, trying out his little steps in empathy is not layered with guilt like his complicated interactions with Deku.

With distance, it's easier to navigate Shouto's mess, but watching the Todoroki family also provides a perspective on his own - a warning in the shape of Endeavor of what he doesn't want to be.

I think from Shouto's side, it's clear that he's been considering Bakugou as his friend for a long time by the end of the remedial arc. Bakugou is a tsundere (so his characterization includes being uncomfortable with squishy feelings like friendships, and is always hiding his motives and intentions). But it doesn't fool Shouto much, because he's someone who primarily looks at actions not words.

But in any case, after the war, Bakugou drops a lot of his attitude and becomes more authentic about his feelings, including more openly friends with Shouto.

I think choosing to support him on their last night before the final war, making him laugh on what may easily be the last night of their lives is a meaningful proof of the long way they have come together .

It's a friendship that the story spent a lot of time with (compared to a lot of the other, easier bonds where characters sort of become friends somewhere in the background and then are just hanging out), working out their relationship from the rocky start, being there as partners and witnesses through some of the biggest lows of each other's lives, getting their licenses together, experiencing milestones and emotional moments together, seeing each other grow and change and stumble through fixing the relationships they struggle with.

I think for us, in the tdbk/bktd part of the fandom, this difficult journey, the ways they fit and the ways they are different is all part of the draw of this dynamic. Also, they are also just truly funny together. There is a hilarious energy of their odd duo and I guess it's something either you are into or not.

Some people prefer sweet / soft friendships, while Todoroki and Bakugou are definitely a cat and dog kind of friendship (even by HK's own illustrations) with its own particular vibe and energy.

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[class1akids]

who had the better development and who is the best written among origin trio so far including a part of the endgame?

I don't think their arcs are comparable like that:

Deku has a flat character arc as he is the moral paragon of the series

Bakugou has a redemption arc

Shoto has a healing / recovery arc

All 3 have strong and weak points.

I think for Izuku, his arc in Act 1 was the strongest as we discovered who he is as a person, his ideals, his strengths. He started to fade into a POV character post-Overhaul arc, and generally the narrative stopped challenging him enough. I think his endgame was a bit sacrificed to give others highlight (the way he was used to escalate Toga, react to everyone). I disliked very much the role of the Vestiges, who didn't add much and took a lot away from having Izuku in center as the character driving the resolution. Let's see what happens in Phase 3 of this fight.

Bakugou has a classic redemption arc, which is certainly the flashiest and most recognizable for fans as it is the type of arc where a character changes the most. Hori put a lot of effort into it, and I think it was spectacularly written until Ch 322. I personally dislike several things about his endgame so far (the death fake-out, the tremendous effort to save him and revive him being swept under the rug and trivialized, the whole weird off-balance of his "team"/"solo" fight aspect of him going against AFO). I think his scenes in Ch 360 and 362 were really well done, as well as the All Might rescue was great. But also he feels weirdly "pampered" by the narrative compared to nearly everyone else. It feels like Hori went into extremes both on his death and revival. Like Bakugou got everything he ever wanted, and arguably a bigger highlight than Deku himself in the eyes of the public, while all the other main characters, including the MC are being denied their wins, which makes me feel uneasy where this will go.

Shouto has a healing / recovery arc, which is written with quite a lot of nuance. I like how it's non-linear, how much Shouto struggles with his relationships with his family. He also has hands down the best quirk progression in the story, where every improvement is tied to some aspect of his healing or step he takes towards his family. It is really well done. Just like Izuku, Shouto's arc was very strong in Act 1, and he lost a lot of prominence in Act 2, which became dominated by Endeavor's redemption arc. though his main milestones were still present. Also, Toya's backstory being backloaded to the end of Act 2 and into Act 3, also meant that in the Todoroki plot there was a struggle to fit in all three of the POVs, at a time where Horikoshi was already growing impatient and was cutting a lot of corners. I think in the Dark Deku arc especially, Shouto would have needed a proper focused chapter for the fall-out of the Dabi reveal. His endgame power-up (Phosphor) and his fight against Touya were narratively pretty good. I think Hori delivered on the "family hero" part, but I think he still owes Shouto a proper resolution both with Touya and with Endeavor and the promise of the "become who you want to be" - where he actually gets to make a choice of his own, because Enji steps up as a father finally and it's not on Shouto anymore to pick up the pieces.

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[class1akids]

So the 2nd user find deku worthy of one for all because he didn't give up on kacchan the person he should hate?!

You have to read these 3 pages together:

Even Nana giving up on Tomura, when she hears that there is no "Tenko" left anymore

Deku swearing to drag Tomura's pain out in the open

Kudou talking about how he believed that Deku was a naive, peace-loving fool, but looking at his memories, he saw how he never gave up on people he should hate - like Kacchan who kept bullying him and Aoyama who betrayed him.

I think what Kudou sees is that:

Deku won't change his mind - so them as vestiges need to stop yapping and trying to waste his energy by being naysayers in his head and instead try to see how they can best contribute.

Deku's approach paid off. Both Bakugou and Aoyama have been important in this war so far (but he could have mentioned Todoroki, Gentle, Nagant, etc. who all turned into assets after Deku didn't give up on them).

And I think this is what Kudou is commenting on, because by believing in Yoichi, he once made the same leap of faith and it resulted in this accumulation of power. This is their fight too, and it was idealistic choices that took them this far.

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[class1akids]

Hello!! At the new chapter that just came out, (417), why do you think horikoshi decided to draw izuku with his middle school uniform? Do you have any thoughts?

Well, the chapter is not quite out yet, officially, but yes I do have thoughts.

There are several options. One possible explanation is that when Nana and Deku broke through the last barrier, he used up all of OFA to break into the Vestige version of the Shimura house and the middle school uniform represents quirkless Deku.

Another option is that whether or not Deku has any part of OFA left, this fight is not anymore about OFA or Deku's hero skills, but Izuku Midoriya's heroic spirit and we are circling back to the question what makes a hero.

Back in Ch 1, All Might told this Izuku that he cannot be a hero without a quirk. Yet, in that same chapter, Izuku - without any quirk, through his sheer will to save - inspired All Might and saved his worst enemy of that time of his life (Bakugou).

Now he's got to the point of Tenko's life where he's just moment away from getting his quirk, but also moments away from expressing the emotion that will consume him and will make him vulnerable to AFO gaslighting into believing that he wanted to do any of it ("I hate everyone").

So this could be a pivotal moment for Deku to intervene and do a "Fix It" for Tenko - be the hero who helps Tenko gain control over his quirk, or reach out a hand to him (when you remember Hana was the first one to find him and she tried to run away) and help him calm him down. Middle school Izuku with his obsessive quirk analysis and his kind heart may be the type of person who can help him get a grip on his power and prevent him re-living the accident.

Both Toga and Touya got their own child-version "fix-it"-s. Touya got to go back metaphorically to Sekoto peak and have all his family to show up for him. Toga got someone embrace her as a "normal girl".

I think for Tenko it's either this moment that will get "fixed" to show that he didn't want to do it. Or it will be Izuku watching him decay his entire family and embrace him afterwards and take his hand to try to lead him out of his hiding place. To show him that he didn't deserve to be abandoned because of a quirk accident and that a hero did come for him.

At the same time proving Izuku's middle school self that the quirk never made him a hero - he always had that inside him.

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[class1akids]

It's disheartening to see what is being done to Shoto and it makes me consider if I want to continue reading until the end or drop it now because I don't think I can take the disappointment every week.

I think the only way to survive is if you look at Shouto's plot as his own story. Everyone else is in a Disney-esque feel-good manga with their magic cures, fantastical power-ups, lots of hype and funny interactions with a flat-paper, cartoon evil that feels good to punch. Where death, destruction and consequence is at most a fleeting inconvenience.

Shouto is in a different story, that's somehow inside the overall feel-good story. It's a dark, sad, realistic story, where there are no fairy godmothers and magic cures. Where the true villain is the hurt people inflict on each other. The final boss is the trauma you can't just punch away. It's a story where your best sometimes takes you only so far. Where you give your heart to someone with the purest intentions and they take it and turn into death and destruction. It's a story where the most fervent wishes and prayers won't ever change the past or the future or give you back what you lost. It's our world.

Shouto is locked in a world like ours. He's the protagonist of this dark story, he's trapped inside it and he only gets to look through the glass at everyone else's happiness as he struggles and cries and fights.

He gets no great rewards or recognition for all he does. His childhood hero hands him no power or shining light to hold onto. He has to find the light inside himself, build a lantern out of the pain he suffered and make it shine for the others who are with him inside this sad story.

His fight is a thankless one, but he still shoulders the burden he was given, he keeps fighting for the people who hurt him, scar him, belittle him. He gives everything of himself, every last bit of power until he has nothing left.

And maybe he has no accolades, maybe he can't fix his broken family or change his brother heart. Maybe he reaches out only to be rejected again. Maybe all he can give them is another day to live. And he has to trust that it has meaning. And maybe nobody recognizes him or knows his name or cares about the hero he wants to be. Maybe nobody will ever compare him to All Might. Maybe he'll never be a Symbol of anything. Maybe he'll only ever be known as Endeavor's son, Dabi's brother because he chose to stick with the family instead of breaking free. But unknown to him, there are a couple of kids who smile because of him, who get to be adults because of him and who will carry him in their hearts.

I live in a world like Shouto's (it's unfair, sad and full of pain) and as much as I want to escape to a happy story, where everything always works out for the best, where good people are rewarded, I know I have no choice but to live the life I was given and try to make it better for the people around me and somehow find the light inside myself.

And that's why Shouto is such an inspiration for me - because despite all the trauma, pain and suffering, he has the strength to keep fighting with a heart so full of love and gratitude and that's just so incredibly powerful to me.

#bnha meta #todoroki shouto #c1a asks #he deserves better of course #but there are many people in the world who do #and are never given the easy solutions #who fight and it feels like nothing they do makes a difference #and shouto is here to be our hero

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The way this chokes me up:

3-4 前略お母さん ぜんりゃくおかあさん zenryaku okaasan Dear Mother,

5 俺はクラスの皆に並べられるよう おれはクラスのみんなにならべられるよう ore wa kurasu no minna ni naraberareru you in order to be able to stand alongside everyone in class

6 毎日なるべく発言したり会話をしたりしています。 まいにちなるべくはつげんしたりかいわをしたりしています。 mainichi narubeku hatsugen shitari kaiwa wo shitari shiteimasu. I’m speaking and conversing as much as possible every day.

My little alien child learning the way of the human species... Like it confirms how much effort Shouto put into learning to become like a regular kid.

His letter to Rei is so endearingly awkward and clumsy, but you can tell he's making an earnest effort. I can see why Rei was treasuring them so much...

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What do you think camie's gonna do on the battlefield? Ig create a bleeding bishounen izuku and stop toga lol.

Joke aside, I think Camie will do something in the Toga - Uraraka storyline. She belongs there - Toga did use her body during the Licensing Exam after all.

But not only that: character-wise, Camie sits at an interesting place. While Ochako is kind of obsessed with supressing her crush, Camie absolutely owns her attraction to guys. She hits on Shouto as soon as they meet. And just like Toga, she receives pushback for her forthcoming behaviour (here, as expressed by Shishikura).

Because of her personality, the kindergarten girls also instantly misinterpret her attempt at bonding with the kids as "trying to seduce them" and shun her (especially watch pony-tail girl's reactions):

And even when they find the same boy handsome, they are like "we can't sink to her level". Even though all Camie does is acknowledge that people can be just happy from experiencing attraction.

And what is her way of getting through to these girls? Ponytail girl, who thinks Camie's way is socially unacceptable, joins the fray to attack Shouto head on, even though we know she finds him cute (sound familiar?)

Camie side-steps this with an illusion, a tiny bit of wish fulfilment, that's about acknowledging and validating their little baby crush on Shouto, recognizing it for the innocent thing it is.

And just like Toga, Camie is also in a societal straight-jacket of not being able to act on her crushes (as per school rules), but she has learn better coping mechanisms than killing people for it. She bitches and complains about it and lets it out.

I think this is what Camie is - half-way between Toga and Ochako - someone who gets attracted easily, is open about her crushes, hits on people shamelessly, but is also able to have fun with that attraction even if it's not reciprocated and certainly isn't for trying to repress or hide her feelings.

So in the end, she wins the girls hearts by playing along, by helping them also to find playful and healthy outlets for romantic attraction and to show them that it's ok to own it and have fun with it in a way that respects the boundaries of the object of their crush. She has plenty of naysayers who think that her straightforwardness is not acceptable, but Camie doesn't change or lose herself to those negative voices.

She keeps dancing to her own tune and other people can't help but smile and dance along with her once they get to know her.

Also notice the design of those two girls:

As I keep saying, the Remedial arc is important and contains somehow the blueprint to saving the villains.

Just like Inasa is a Dabi-reflection (someone who turns into a twisted version of himself over Endeavor's rejection), Camie is a Toga-reflection. And her personality and way of dealing with her crushes can be an illuminating example both for Toga and Ochako that there is a middle ground between being consumed by your feelings or repressing them fully.

Obviously, it won't be Camie who "saves" Toga, but she can come with her boundary-smashing commentary that helps both Toga and Uraraka in eventually bridging the gap.

#c1a asks #bnha meta #bnha manga spoilers #bnha 380 #remedial arc #camie utsushimi #himiko toga #uraraka ochako #look at the girl with the flower design in her hair #and the other one with the ponytail obsessed with shutting down her feelings

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Dabi/Toya's eyes and him asking why they didn't they look at him sooner sounds ominous, what is the Dabi panel of him breaking supposed to mean?

The crack was already on his head last chapter in the physical reality. I think it's representing his body falling apart / the explosion point getting near.

The Touya-panels in this chapter are:

13-year old Sekoto peak Touya saying "everyone is watching"

Post reveal Dabi version of him saying: "if it was such an easy thing"

And in-real-time Dabi saying: "why not sooner then?"

I think this means that while the family managed to get Touya to the surface, by giving him what he wanted, and it is a crack on the Dabi persona. But at the same time, Dabi's anger is not gone fully because if it was this easy, why he had to do all this? So I think he's still ready to die basically.

#c1a asks #bhna manga leaks #bnha manga spoilers #bnha 389 #dabi

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Shouto's missing..

Arriving on the nick of time is Shouto's specialty. 😉

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Another all might vs AFO rematch is so unnecessary and really shows that hori is doing whatever he thinks is "cool" for this final arc and throwing logic and writing out the window. This honestly brings down all mights character for me.

Anonymous asked: I guess quirkless deku could've been a hero, all he needed was an iron man suit apparently lmao. If all might holds AFO back for even a minute, it's going to make AFO look super weak and all the people who had quirks trying to stop him look even weaker. I mean hori built the whole story up as you need a quirk to do hero work and then he just gives all might a iron man suit out of nowhere just to have him fight again? Yeah that's bad writing.

I'll take these two asks together. Admittedly, I didn't read the EN fandom reactions to this chapter, bc I loved it and I didn't want to see the inevitable negativity, but I really don't get why people think this ruins anything.

The manga has spent almost 400 chapter at this point of deconstructing hero society, the Symbol of Peace and I think some things should be abundantly clear by now:

A strong quirk doesn't make a true hero (Bakugou's, Endeavor's arcs)

Saving someone is about reaching their hearts in time, not about beating them down

Quirks and personalities are connected, but the quirk is not the same as the individual (Shouto's arc)

You don't need a quirk to be someone's hero (every person who left little Tenko to wander the streets alone)

Skill, training, tech can all elevate a person beyond the strength of their quirks (Best Jeanist, Hawks' fight after he lost his wings, Hatsume matching the hero kids in the SF with tech, Detrenat, Knuckleduster in Vigilante, etc)

It was inevitable that we'd come back to this question:

When All Might said in Chapter 1 that you need a quirk to be a hero, he was saying that bc at the time he truly believed that everything he was, was due to OFA.

He spent the entire time after losing OFA being "lost and wandering" (just like Shoto, btw) trying to figure out his own place. By trying to teach Deku, by becoming a better teacher to all the students he tried to find a sense of purpose, but basically he lost the ability to see himself as a hero. That's why he pulled back, offered no leadership even after the war, as things were completely falling apart.

It took watching Deku spiral as he tried to shoulder everything by himself and seeing Class A offering support to him that All Might started to doubt the path he was on. Because, seriously - Ojirou, a martial artist with a tail - Shoji - a guy with some extra arms - Mineta - with his sticky balls - all believe that they CAN support Deku, can be part of his fight.

While All Might, with his 4 decades of fighting experience, a huge amount of wealth, access to the world's best tech through personal connections can offer nothing?

It took talking with Stain to realize that there is an entire spectrum of doing nothing and doing everything by himself. And the ideal point is to do what he can.

All Might stepping up has been on the cards since then. We knew he was planning something.

Of course, All Might has earned his retirement. He could be just a living relic of a glorious era. Obviously, even with tech, he's not going to have the godlike powers he did before.

But right now, the end is in sight. Everything is falling apart. He just sent two 16 year olds to run into the core of a ticking nuke on the blind faith they'll be able to do something about it, because it is the ONLY chance. One of his students had his heart explode. There are no heroes left.

All Might KNOWS, he knows better than anyone how dangerous prime!AFO is. But he also knows his personality, his buttons to push. He doesn't have to win, he just needs to delay, and he has a good hunch that AFO won't be able to ignore him. Whatever minutes, seconds he can buy can mean the difference between life or death, victory or defeat. So of course, he will try. Because that's who he is.

Remember - Deku in chapter 1 running into danger with a backpack got OFA because he reminded Toshinori of himself. Quirkless Deku stepping up, acting heroic despite his lack of power made All Might RECOGNIZE himself. Losing OFA never meant he lost his hero heart or instincts - he just lost faith in himself, because he bought into the hero society rhetoric. The scale of what he could do changed, but his heroism didn't.

So that leads us to the last question - is there a place and need for heroes who are less than superman. If there is a Symbol who has the power to solve any crisis by himself, do you even need the lesser ones?

And I think the story has affirmed again and again that yes, people with little power can make a huge difference and heroism comes in many shapes and forms. Also, that no matter how powerful, nobody can get there alone. Everyone needs support. A strong net is more stable than a lone pillar. A person's value or ability to change things is not tied to their quirks.

All Might stepping up is the culmination of everything he learnt and is totally in character for him. Moreover, it's the natural narrative endpoint of everything that the series has been talking about.

He can't win, he'll probably needs someone to save his ass (maybe Stain, maybe Bakugou, possibly both), but he'll also tick away precious seconds from AFO's rewind time and make a difference.

And this is why I also expect Deku saving Shigaraki not be just beating him up with more OFA, but Deku being Izuku should be the decisive factor in it. And also, I personally think Deku losing OFA but learning that he can be a hero without it would be a good writing choice and a good endgame.

HK already drew Deku's quirks as support items - so I think it's not a stretch that he could be a tech-based hero.

As someone who is a huge fan of tech-based heroes operating in the world of super-powers, it is my favourite endgame for Deku.

#c1a asks #bnha meta #all might #toshinori yagi #i would have hated him being rewound to his prime #ofa #midoriya izuku