#especially conservative women

[mariposavuela]

Making the claim that you support abortion so more women can join the military is actually a really dumb idea because it is both

never going to get conservatives on board with abortion and

is going to make more leftists drop out of the democrat party because now it boldly supports the military industrial complex and

is going to make more radical Trump supporters even more convinced that the democrat party is a cult of death and the polarization will then just pull more people from the edges of the left and the centrist conservatives who are against abortion.

Like sorry Moira but that take just has no idea how conservatives think or what they value.

#when you say it like #republicans are hurting the military because they hate women #republicans are going to very easily say that is a straw man #anytime you try to say something is misogyny #it makes people dig their heels more #a lot of women also absolutely do not want to serve in the military #especially conservative women #because gender roles #sorry im just reeling over the sheer confidence of this claim #when its just so completely incorrect

[kafkaesquedyke]

The new Velma show seems to neatly fall into this trend of tv shows (paramount heathers, leaked powerpuff girls script) that want to seem progressive by having a diverse cast, while simultaneously wanting to preserve that same edgy, punch-down comedy style found in 'centrist' or conservative media. They want the praise for having female, queer, and characters of colour while still retaining an audience made up of mainly edgy white men laughing at how ridiculous ‘the minorities’ are behaving. It’s a punch-down comedy wolf in progressive sheep clothing.

The fundamental flaw in this logic is that show runners assume the audience that would enjoy this humour will see past that supposedly progressive façade… and that often doesn’t happen. A lot of these specific edgy types see diversity as a red flag and immediately presume some type of agenda. It’s almost like seeing a minority participate in the joke (even though they’re still very much the punchline) zaps all the humour out of it or they can’t understand that the joke is still for them if it isn’t said by someone that looks exactly like them. And because they (especially, but not only, cishet white men) recognise all the jokes from things they like, but don’t find them funny anymore, the only reasonable explanation they have is that diversity is bad and makes it unfunny, instead of realising their inherent inability to recognise and relate to any character that isn’t a white man.

Meanwhile, an audience that would appreciate a diverse cast does recognise the comedy for what it is: cheap jokes made at their expense. At most there are occasional jabs thrown in at the white and/or male characters which often don’t relate to these identities in any fundamental or even realistic way. So you have this show that constantly uses their minority characters as punchlines and only includes vaguely progressive, but ultimately pretty universally accepted, messaging hoping progressive audiences will be enamoured with the occasional ‘girlboss moment™️’, while not noticing that vast amounts of regressive ideals.

In the end neither audience feels appealed to and the show is a massive failure. While it might be satisfying to see that these conservative audiences are too blinded by, let’s be honest here, identity politics to recognise something that is clearly made for them, ultimately all that is remembered is that ‘the comedy show featuring a lot of diversity’ failed. And it becomes harder for people who actually want to make media with, and especially for, minorities have a harder time getting any funding. Shows like these are a lose lose situation when it comes to furthering diversity in the media landscape and it’s increasingly frustrating to see this happen again and again.

#most of the criticism I’ve seen so far is hinging on the expectation that this show would be progressive because of the representation #but if you see it as just another family guy copycat you can see all the ‘weirdly problematic stuff’ not as flaws but part of the design #meanwhile most of the criticism coming from conservatives is ‘wokeness ruined scooby doo’ #we can’t assume just because something features minorities that it is for those minorities #especially with the rise of anti-intellectualism and ‘the curtains are just blue’ mentality this seems to happen more and more #they also often feature the surface acceptance of women queer people and poc while still being very blatantly bigoted towards other groups #many of which are discriminated against as well but their activism efforts are not as widely recognised #so you might not have as much blatant racism and sexism but incredible amounts of ableism and fatphobia #meanwhile the more obvious bigotry is either subtler or deflected by characters pointing it out like that erases the joke #this isn’t even touching on how all of these shows also wildly misconstrue the purpose of the media they are adapting #scooby doo #hbo velma #velma 2023 #paramount heathers

[gaylactic-fire]

I fucking guarantee you the whole "showing porn to children in school." point is literally just talking about regular sex education and how it's evolved from "Abstinence is imperative and you'll burn in hell if you think otherwise" to "Actually sometimes people have sex and you should know about pregnancy and STIs and consent, should you have sex."

#fires posts #ramblings #conserv//atives can't stand the idea of young girls being told they're allowed to consent to not being a walking womb #it's all about authoritarianism and witholding knowledge so women will grow up into perfect christ//ian baby makers #don't ever let them frame it as concern for children. They HATE children. Especially when they have their own agency #anyway that's enough on that god awful response post #nsft

[radelenagreco]

i'm #newtoradblr i've spent so much time these past two weeks scrolling through radfem blogs i knew i had to make an actual radfem side of tumblr blog for my own sanity. the way i "peaked" is kinda funny 3-4 months ago i liked a radfem post without realizing and all of a sudden i had other radfem posts recommended to me by the algorithm and i was so annoyed because i was very anti-terf etc but for a couple days i read through a bunch of radfem blogs and it was actually such a relief to encounter FEMINISM not some watered down version of it but i felt guilty due to 5+ years of conditioning (and also because i had a nonbinary friend sitting right next to me in class as i was doing this) and i also didn't like the prominent use of the word moid? but anyway, 3 months later, i'm not sure why but the mra nature of the trans movement has grown so much more apparent to me i have like three mutuals who are trans men on my other blog and i would find myself rereading the few feminist posts i would reblog/write because these people are literally reblogging shit like "don't think like a terf. men aren't your oppressors, they're your friends/neighbors/brothers/fathers. if you think that any man could harm you you have been fooled by terf rhetoric" like actual morons/meninists. anyway two weeks ago i saw a post made by someone i knew was a radfem on my twitter tl and i don't know why i knew i was ready i went through her blog and through many others and now here i am.

#still dislike the word moid i know it's in response to 4chan people saying shit like femoid but it reads too much like a racist slur for me #to be cool with people saying it #i don't mean it reads like a racist slur towards men i mean it's way too reminiscent of the word negroid #it really made me think people were right about radical feminism being a gateway to being a conservative because...it literally feels #racist to me lmao i don't think i'll ever like it #gonna go follow the few blogs i followed on my main + others now #and i was actually always pretty radical in my feminism i was never what one would call a libfem i just wasn't A RadFem because i was into #the whole trans thing #it's different when you're not on tumblr/not exclusively interacting with trans people on the internet. people taking such an issue with #feminism and claiming that its most basic aspects (men oppress women) are transphobic and terf rhetoric is really only a thing on tumblr #and in those circles it's especially different when you're not talking in english #and i'm pretty sure everyone i follow on twitter supports trans people but the mra nature of trans right activism just has not hit them the #way it has hit tumblr they're still very normal about feminism it's actually so nice to go there and say i hate men with no caveat #the only people who would bother me if they came across my tweets saying that would be: cis men misogynists and people on the far right in #general #crazy that on tumblr it's the most leftist people i'd have to worry about hahaha... #ipost

[ye-xiu]

people will elect conservatives bc they got rage-baited into voting for them and then two to four years later will absolutely hate who they elected like yeah we could have told you that before you shot everyone else in the foot lol

#always the same like why do u think voting for pseudo fascists under the guise of ‘tradition’ is going to fix ur country? #especially when that usually happens bc women’s rights and other things improved beforehand #and then people are surprised why who they voted for tanked their economy. i have some news for you #so many people who don’t vote for these conservative pieces of shit tell you not to vote for the exact reasons you end up hating who you #voted for #al.txt

[iceyrukia]

As much as empathize and feel sorry for some of the situations that women find themselves in once they’re married and have children, I can’t help but feel very upset when these women actually acknowledge that they’re treated like servants by their very own sons but then try to drag down their own daughters into this role and take out all of their anger and frustration onto said daughter. Because it’s easier to drag down other women and girls some women would rather continue a cycle than stand up to men in the slightest.

#ic.text #and yes I get the dynamics and the psychology behind some conservative women that adhere to traditional roles #but it’s so humiliating to see mothers fold to their sons as if they have 0 authority to make them behave #and especially when they let their sons off the hook at a young age in like for example #cleaning around the house -but then I think if they enforce these roles onto sons #isn’t that a reminder that they are servants to their husbands and not equal partners???

[teaandinanity]

Man sometimes you see something on your dash and you're like 'ah okay there will be a response somewhere' but no. No they actually think this is a good take and now you have to unfollow about it.

#I may actually have to install the terf detection addon #radfems are fucking UNHINGED y'all #'birth control is evil and bad' I'm sorry is this now a FEMINIST TAKE? what the FUCK? #is this like the liberal hippy -> antivax -> conservative pipeline? #birth control is about - as the name implies - CONTROL #it's about BODILY AUTONOMY #like yes I agree that the versions men could take SHOULD have gone to market ages ago #but hormonal birth control helps with ACTUAL HEALTH ISSUES #and grants women control over their fertility rather than relying on someone ELSE for that #and the purity bullshit of 'I will never let artificial hormones touch My Cycle' is just deranged #feminism means it's your choice because choices mean you're allowed to be a fucking moron #but don't pretend you're better than other people for that jesus fuck and ESPECIALLY don't act like they're not allowed to choose too #I'm not even vagueblogging about this I feel strongly about it and anyone who disagrees can and should unfollow me

[laufire]

the thing about tolkien’s (unforgivably few) female characters is that he seems to regard women as these borderline incomprehensible, distant, hard-edged creatures, with a touch of marvel and quite a lot of mystery. the thing about me is that I’m into that shit.

#it's fascinating to me how often the way an author's sexism manifest #creates these AMAZING characters; or more accurately for lotr IMO: these amazing SKETCHES/DRAFTS of a character #the possibility is there in a way BECAUSE of how they (negatively) view and relate (don't) to women #(not always a guarantee especially among most conservative authors lol. i don't just mean men here) #but obviously. the same sexism is (like any form of bigotry when it comes to art) a hindrance and an obstacle #when it comes to develop said characters. something that actively prevents them from reaching the story's highest potential imo #talking to the void #my thoughts #the writing tm #lord of the rings

[lonesomedotmp3]

"control, baby, it can be controlled. so give me back the story." well that's crazy!

#hate how badly my seminar for this flopped no one wanted to actually like. talk about it #not even my professor 😭 after like ten seconds of silence he was like yeahhhh I'm not putting this on the syllabus next year 😕 dude... #ok I guess that's not true it's more everyone wanted to talk about it against a very particular framework which i didn't necessarily #disagree with it was just like. very decisive and I felt like it instantly closed any proper discussion we could have had #especially because the professor (who is great! and again I don't disagree w the interpretation!) himself was like oh yeah this book sucks #and is deeply conservative and we can acknowledge that #and it's like ok but maybe we could still talk about it. and talk about it a bit beyond that or in more depth #also this is something that has annoyed me about him before he has this really frustrating perception of themes surrounding women #and violence against them/misogyny/etc as like. trite and banal #like w rosemary's baby. he's like oh that's obvious we don't need to talk about it. #like. ok. I don't understand why ever ever dissecting how women are framed in a story is so boring for you #he almost always uses racial frameworks to discuss and I think that's extremely valuable #and important to the works we look at but like. why is that always deep and interesting and revelatory but #discussing women (or hatred of women) is innately shallow. :/ #sorry that's only very tangential to what I quoted it's just something I've been thinking about a lot since the start of term #especially after rosemary's baby. like I'm sorry not talking at all about female autonomy etc during that was insane.

[zemnarihah]

the curse of the bisexual woman. is that as soon as you feel ready to start dating ppl other than men. thats when the best man u've ever met falls into ur lap

#i mean who knows if i would have found someone even just to date casually its not like the queer dating scene around here is v robust #but idk it feels like this thing w erik is gonna last. and i am a little sad that i like havent gotten the chance to actually have those #experiences #if im being fully honest i used to kind of judge bi girls like i would be like. how are there so many bi girls and they all have boyfriends #and obviously that was just like. dumb internalized biphobia whatever i stopped thinking like that a long time ago. but this just makes me #realize even more like dude it just is not as easy to find women or nb ppl to date as it is men as a woman. #the odds are stacked so high against you ending up w anyone but a man #and like especially if u live in a v conservative area. any girl who may be into me has a pretty high chance of being closeted #idk its whatever. maybe ill never have sex w a girl maybe i would never have even if i never met erik. who knows.

[papirouge]

sorry but if you're unsure on whether the man you're having sex with would keep having sex with you if you stopped taking contraception and/or abortion becoming illegal, mayyyybe you shouldn't even have sex with him to begin with lmao

#i mean good for you if you have no problem dating this brand of dude but then stop lecturing other women when it comes to their #dating choices and especially tradfem lmao #noah fence but the so called radical feminist clowning day and night conservative women are the one who come off as having the #worst dating choices #many of you dated Nigels and it shows #that's why you think that's the default #sorry but it's not and you have to stop projecting your awful dating experience onto everybody else🥴 #papi watch #abortion #abstinence

[hell0mega]

my partner is most likely an egg as he has been saying things like "i wish i was a lesbian" "i wish i had been born a girl" "i hate having a dick" "all my built characters in rpgs are women" "feminine clothing is so much more interesting than masculine clothing" "if i was a girl would you love me more" "I'm sorry I'm not a girl" like babe I'm starting to think you are. it's been 7 years of this.

#SEVEN YEARS #CONSISTENTLY #it's really sad though cuz i don't know if he'll ever realize or want to commit #we've talked about it a little especially recently #he doesn't get dysphoric except for his weight but honestly we've never tried to like... make him look feminine #i think he'd make a beautiful woman especially after we both lose weight (me moreso tbh) #cuz he only has a beard to hide his double chin (his words) #but also his mom is extremely conservative and religious and all that #the rest of his family especially her mom and brother (his grandma and uncle) are very much not #and i don't think she'd like abandon him but she would never accept him if her were to transition and it would be incredibly contentious #especially with her husband. they're like a couple steps away from q shit #and i think he will always feel like he is not queer enough (at this point he is cishet) to be trans. he really thinks he's just some guy #how to i tell him that most trans women used to just be some guy lol #i think the social transitioning would never he worth it to him #therefore i dont know if he'll ever even consider doing it closetly or think he ever could #idk if anyone has any advice on how to bring this stuff up then fuck let me know because damn

[junekomeiji]

tbh the more I read about cis women the more I realise I'll never be able to comprehend them and just, iwnbaw

#probably comes from the fact i wasnt allowed to talk to cis women at much if at all due to my conservative upbringing and country #as well as very strict sex segregation in schools and all other environments #ah well i wish i could be accepted as a girl especially by cis women but for now iwnbaw

[13eyond13]

Is it possible for misa to get more development? It's been more than a decade and Ohba still being mean to his female characters. They were rumors about society and misogyny in japan but it's probably not a good excuse for poorly written female characters. Is anyone ever complain about this to Ohba. I think Obata may notice this too.

I know that reviewers have complained about the blatant misogyny in his work before, and maybe he has been privy to some of that feedback, but I don't think he really cares. It just seems to be getting worse and worse in his work over time as well. I don't imagine he's exactly on the cutting edge of this stuff by Japanese standards either, but I also don't have a ton of personal knowledge about it.

#i think he's just like an old conservative jerk basically #never learned to think of women as people #cringey especially because he clearly also values high intelligence so much #and would probably associate himself with that egghead category #yet still hasnt figured that out (because he doesnt want to) #ask #anon #p