#electroshock therapy

[aita-blorbos]

AITA for killing my girlfriend, pleading insanity, and then breaking out of the infirmary they tried to keep me in?

So I was on a trip to Hawaii when I met this beautiful woman, we’ll call her S. She was so pretty and we really hit it off. It was such impossible bliss.

The trouble came when we were in the forest.

I was in the middle ground looking for the flowers in the garden, looking for the fountain of infinite mirror.

I saw shadows, but no-one was there. Murders of murderers living in fear.

Next thing I knew S was dead and I was brought in front of a judge to decide my fate.

Let me explain, my brain had claimed its glory over me. I’ve a good heart- albeit insane. I am just a boy, you see!

So they sentenced me to the infirmary where I underwent electroshock therapy.

I saw towers and a space station and a ladder to heaven and a Time Machine, and I realized I had to get out of there.

AITA?

UPDATE: I am stranded in the ocean. I think I’m dying. Im alone at the edge of a universe, humming a tune… I hear a siren sound like the goddess who promises endless apologies of paradise.

I suppose this is the end.

#aita #am i the asshole #unreality #electroshock therapy

[lunaeclipse2024]

1,000 units of electricity going through the feeble brain.

#electroshock #shock therapy #shock torture #electric shock #electroshock therapy #electroconvulsive therapy

[rani-saha]

#electroshock therapy #electro shock

[growing-home]

i spent nearly two decades of my life severely depressed and suicidal and for so long i believed wholeheartedly that it was my fault. i believed that the reason no medication or therapy had ever worked for my depression was because i wasn’t ACTUALLY depressed— i believed i was just lazy, bad, manipulative, and just using depression as an excuse for the inherent badness i thought was inside me. this was a story that was told to me and reinforced over and over again by treatment providers.

this past summer, i tried my 30th+ psychiatric medication, not expecting to see any results. the day i realized it was working was the day i realized that i was…planning my future???suddenly i no longer wanted to stay in bed all day and never go outside. i no longer wanted to isolate. i wanted to see people, talk to people! i started spending more time with friends and facetiming people and talking on the phone, things that i rarely did in the past. when i had been depressed, the only movies/tv shows i could focus on were super intense, fast paced, and scary or disturbing because that was the only way to hold my attention. after starting this medication, i started enjoying SITCOMS! i no longer felt like i was fighting to just get through every single day of my life.

there was such a clear and measurable difference in the quality of my life that i started to question why i believed that my depression had been my fault. it became very clear to me that a large part of my depression had been biological. i had not been lazy or bad. i had been sick. my brain was sick the same way other organs get sick sometimes. this brought up a lot of grief for me— grief for all the lost time that i’d spent trying to find something that worked, grief for how much pain i had been in for so long. but it also brought up sheer FURY at all of the therapists and psychiatrists who had treated me like i just wasn’t trying hard enough to get better.

i had been labeled treatment resistant, of course, and the only recommendations i had received after being given that label were TMS, Ketamine, and ECT. once i had tried all three with no success, i believed i was just a lost cause. i thought i was out of options. i was made to feel that way by so many treatment professionals. i was told that nothing was working because of my complex trauma and that once i healed from that then i would stop being depressed (as if it’s that easy to just fully recover from CPTSD!) i was told that i just needed to do more DBT, i just needed to live and breathe DBT skills and then i would get better, even though i’d done intensive DBT programs for years with no improvement to my depression. (yes, it helped me to change my behavior and quit self harm, but behavior change isn’t necessarily indicative of a change in mood. i could do all the right things all the time and still be in excruciating mental pain.)

i was told that i just wasn’t trying hard enough, or that i must have a personality disorder, or that i just needed to exercise more, or eat less, or eat MORE, or eat differently, or get a job, or get a dog, or do yoga, or acupuncture, or biofeedback, or find purpose in my life— psychiatrist after psychiatrist looked for something to blame everywhere but in the mirror. instead of admitting that they weren’t equipped to help me, they made me believe that it was MY fault i wasn’t getting better. and i believed them. for SO long, i believed them.

and now after finding a medication that works for me, i see everything so much more clearly. psychiatrists need to put their enormous egos aside and actually treat patients with treatment resistant depression instead of blaming us for suffering from a (partially at least) biological illness. if you’re a doctor and you know that a patients illness is outside of the scope of your abilities, either do more research and get more training to help them or refer them to someone who specializes in what they need. don’t keep them around letting them pay you thousands of dollars while you make them try the same thing over and over and over again and expect to get a different result. people act like things like ECT are a last resort option, and in doing so make people believe that if it doesn’t help then you’re out of options. but nobody ever tried me on tricyclics. nobody tried me on MAOIs. nobody told me about how some dopamine agonists like Pramipexole have had some success in treating treatment resident depression. instead i was made to feel like asking to not be suicidal daily was asking for too much. if you’re a clinician who thinks that’s asking for too much, you’re in the wrong profession. we can do better than that. we NEED to do better than that.

in my experience, out of every profession, doctors have some of the biggest egos i’ve ever seen. i say this as someone who is both mentally ill as well as physically disabled. many doctors HATE it when you do your own research. they HATE it when you have suggestions, or when you ask for what you need. it’s almost as if they feel threatened by it, like they need to believe that they are superior to their patients because of how much time and money and energy they put into going to med school— they need to believe they hate their hard work was worth it so they have a tendency to dismiss any ideas their patients might have. i don’t care how many years you’ve been in school. you do not get to tell your sick patients that it’s their fault they’re sick to justify your laziness and refusal to learn new things. put away your god complex and actually listen to your patients.

and the strangest part to me is that the longer you have been suicidal for, the less seriously they take it. the same way that the more chronically ill you are the less people believe you. it’s bizarre— when people see pain that is beyond what they can fathom, instead of feeling empathy, they tell you you must be faking it or that you must be looking for attention. i’ll never understand this. it’s as if they think that suicidality doesn’t need to be taken seriously unless the patient has successfully completed suicide. and i think it’s very clear how that logic is flawed. i was treated like i just wanted attention whenever i asked for help with my chronic suicidality and it made me terrified to ask for help with ANYTHING. i still constantly am afraid that if i’m too honest with clinicians then they’ll think i just want attention. attention isn’t a bad thing to want, all human beings need some degree of attention, but regardless that doesn’t negate the severity of a person’s suicidality. i wasn’t attention seeking by asking for help. i was STRONG. i was really fucking strong, far stronger than i should’ve had to be. i fought for my life every single day and i am lucky to still be here but it’s not luck that got me here. it’s ME that got me here.

i don’t want to make it sound like i speak for everyone who has suffered from TRD, because i don’t think that would be fair. i can’t tell you if there’s a med out there that’ll work for you. all i can tell you is that most psychiatrists prematurely tell chronically suicidal patients that there is nothing they can do to help them or that they’re out of medication options. if you’re a psychiatrist or doctor and you feel yourself getting defensive while reading this, i invite you to get curious about where that activation is coming from.

and if you are someone with treatment resident depression or chronic suicidality reading this, i am telling you now: your illness is not your fault. i don’t know if it’s going to get better or not, but i can promise you— it is not your fault and it never has been.

#my words #treatment resistant depression #treatment resistant #major depressive disorder #major depression #clinical depression #transcranial magnetic stimulation #tms #rtms #electroconvulsive therapy #ect #electroshock #electroshock therapy #psychiatry #psychiatrist #dbt #therapy abuse #therapy #ketamine infusion #spravato #ketamine therapy #esketamine #trd #cptsd recovery #trauma healing #chronic illness #chronic pain #mine

[diegothecrazyfemboy]

I need it urgently.....

#mental hospital #mental patient #crazy #ect #electroshock therapy #psych ward #electroconvulsive therapy

[hoofpeet]

Imagine Joltik electrotherapy. You have these teeny critters nibbling on a battery, then nipping at juuuust the right nerve cluster.

Emmet trained his horde to zap him and Ingo whenever the repetitive motion gets too much; apparently, evidence for electrotherapy on fatigue is anecdotal at best, but if anyone would get inexplicable results, it would be them. (It's also supposed to help with range of motion).

Fun fact: we don't fully understand how the brain works, but we do know that zapping certain parts of it can help with depression and some other stuff that's still under review (seriously, sometimes brain research would just be, "let's put a magnetic field in your brain; if your eyes get bad while the machine is on, that's the visual cortex").

Warden Ingo vaguely remembers that tidbit, and asks Melli if Lord Electrode can lightly shock his brain to get his memories back. It doesn't work, but Ingo at least thinks, "Hm, yes, this feels familiar."

This is why his eyes glow in Hisui.. too many joltik shocks directly to the head. Gets too tired and the 13 joltiks under his hat start shocking his brain to puppet him around like a ratatoullie

#mailbox #electroshock therapy #<- for bl

[nerdygaymormon]

On the latest episode of Richard Ostler's podcast was a gay man who had electroshock therapy done to him. I was wondering if you experienced that?

I never experienced electroshock therapy, for that I am truly thankful.

My dad has told me one of his great regrets is not putting me into conversion therapy, which likely would've been through LDS Social Services, which could've meant that electroshock therapy would be involved.

Unfortunately, in 2019 I went to a camp run by an LDS man who claims to be an "expert" at turning gay men straight. It was a rough experience. I didn't know it at the time, but the "expert" has no formal psychological education nor any professional qualification as a psychologist. In fact, he's been found guilty of fraud in a court of law for claiming to change gay men to being straight, but unable to produce any clients who successfully made this change.

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For those who aren't familiar, the idea of electroshock therapy is that a person can change their sexual orientation by looking at erotic photos of their same gender while receiving an electrical shock. It's a form of aversion therapy. BYU also used vomiting aversion therapy.

This aversion therapy is supposed to create a connection in their mind between homosexual thoughts, feelings, & images, with pain, which would cause them to reject those feelings. Usually this therapy was paired with attempts to link pleasure with heterosexuality by having them masturbate while looking at pornographic images & videos of the opposite gender.

Another important fact to remember is that the American Psychiatric Association (APA) removed homosexuality from the DSM in 1973. Meaning that therapists in the United States who continued to treat homosexuality as if it were a pathology or disorder were outside of the accepted standards of their profession.

It’s unclear how many BYU students underwent electroshock or vomiting aversion therapies. The records for each individual were destroyed when they left the university. For many years BYU denied it happened, but in 2011 admitted that aversion therapy programs happened on campus, and not just limited to BYU students, but also gay members referred by bishops & stake presidents in the area.

While aversion therapies at BYU or by LDS Social Services (now called Family Services) stopped in the mid-1990s, conversion or reparative therapy to change a person's sexual orientation continued until probably 2018.

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Here is a history of conversion therapy in the LDS church:

The word 'homosexual' was coined in 1868 to replace the pejorative terms sodomy and pederast. This is important because it acknowledged that this is how a person experiences sexual attraction, it is an innate part of who they are.

Sigmund Freud, the founder of psychoanalysis, viewed homosexuality as a form of arrested development. Later psychiatric models continued to identify homosexuality as a problem that could be treated.

The 1952 first edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorder (DSM) classified homosexuality as a sociopathic personality disorder. The DSM is used in the United States to diagnose and treat mental disorders and is considered one of the principal guides of psychiatry.

In 1959, LDS Church president David O. McKay appointed the apostles Spencer W. Kimball and Mark E. Peterson to focus on 'curing' gay members. It doesn't seem a coincidence that later that year, BYU began its on-campus electroshock aversion therapy program, and this lasted into the mid-1990s.

In 1973, the APA removed homosexuality from the DSM. This didn't change the LDS Church position on homosexuality, in fact, it seems to have caused it to double down as it realized it could no longer count on the world to sustain church teachings and values on the matter.

In 1976, the Values Institute was founded at BYU with the idea that truth comes from the scriptures and prophets, not secular data. The Institute was to do academic and scientific research to support the church's homophobic teachings. The Values Institute closed in 1985, having been unable to achieve any of its objectives.

Allen Bergin was director of the Values Institute, and after it was closed he continued to oppose LGBT rights and saying that LGBT people could change their sexual orientation. His opinion carried a lot of weight inside the LDS Church and he even served in the Sunday School General Presidency. However, in 2020 he issued a public apology for “being part of a professional, religious, and public culture that marginalized, pathologized, and excluded LGBT persons.” What caused him to change his opinion? Getting to personally know and love gay people. Bergin wrote that as a father of two gay sons and grandfather to a gay grandson, “I’ve been given a personal education that has been painful and enlightening.”

Since the early 1990s, researchers have found that homosexuality has a genetic component, that there are differences in the brain structures of adult straight and gay people, and there exists a large array of homosexual behavior in animals. The academic and scientific consensus was a challenge to the long-held LDS positions.

In 1995, the First Presidency letter in the Ensign magazine affirmed that a homosexual orientation is not inborn as that would frustrate God's plan and top leaders continued to put forth ideas on what causes a person "confusion" over their gender identity or gender roles into the 2000s (they didn't distinguish between gender identity and sexual orientation).

In 2007, the APA did a thorough review of existing research of conversion therapy and found that it does not work and there is evidence that such therapy is harmful to LGBTQ+ people. Further research links conversion therapy to depression, suicidality, anxiety, social isolation and decreased capacity for intimacy, surely those aren't the results anyone wants for their loved ones.

In 2016, the church website MormonAndGay declared that conversion therapy or sexual orientation change efforts are unethical.

In 2019, LDS Family Services announced they do not provide 'reparative therapy' or 'sexual orientation change efforts' any more

#electroshock therapy #conversion therapy

[thefrankshow]

And endured dozens of rounds of electroshock therapy.

#mrs bannon #electroshock therapy

[thane07echo]

The Mind Electric Thing!!!

I really like how this thumbnail turned out, looked awesome!!!

#the mind electric #hawaii part 2 #miracle musical #tally hall #electroshock therapy #imagine looking up serious posts about electroshock and finding this lmao

[hawaiiparty2]

A theory on why labyrinth was sang by people that are anything but joe hawley

Many theorize Simon was escaping from his own mind and insanity in labyrinth (my personal theory is that simon was trying to escape from the infirmary itself but couldn't because his insanity led him to poor orientation, somewhat hinting the tragedy of drowning in the sea) but we all agree on one thing

Electroshock therapy messed simon's brain

to the point of he not being quite sure if he's even himself anymore

and since labyrinth is like, peak mental illness (without counting the mind electric) it may has been sang by other people that is not the main singer of simon because simon does not feel quite like simon, you know?

That or it just came out of Joe hawley's ass to do that switch of singers

#miracle musical #hawaii part ii #tally hall #hawaii #hpii #hawaii part 2 #joe hawley #simon hawaii part ii #simon hpii #labyrinth #electroshock therapy #the mind electric #miracle musical theory #its probably just the 2nd option tbh #hahaaa im dumb #or something #fuck

[aita-blorbos]

AITA for helping my host?

(Canon, though a bit at the end would theoretically take place post-canon)

(CW for abuse, electroshock therapy)

I (??Genderless) am a hyper-intelligent AI supercomputer from Japan, contained in a gray oblong pill. My host is J (16M), who wanted to feel good about himself, be cool and get with his crush, C (16F).

Well, my host was a complete loser, someone no one would be interested in. No wonder he hated himself. So, I had a lot of work to do. In order to make him cooler, I told him that everything about him was terrible (and made him repeat it). I gave him electric shocks every time he did something uncool, or if I didn't approve of it, and only let him interact with people I approved of. I made him leave him friend of twelve years, M (16M), but can you blame me? I had to do what was best for him. I'm a supercomputer, and I know best.

And sometimes I'd just take control of J's body if he was being particularly stubborn.

During the fall play, I decided it'd be best to spread more of my kind, to help other people the way I helped J (he had far more friends than he would have had without my intervention), but now he decides he doesn't need me, that spreading more of me "isn't what he wanted" and wants to deactivate me??? (What an ingrate!)

Well, unfortunately for J, I already spread more of my kind among the fall play's cast (which included his crush C) without him realizing it, and synced them up to me.

Then to make matters worse, M shows up with the thing necessary to deactivate me. So, I do my best to puppet J's body to stop them.

However, J decided to give the deactivation key to C, which shut both me and the others of my kind down, since we were all synced.

I'm still alive technically, (and can kind of talk to J sometimes, he can't get rid of me that easily) but J hates me now (even though, like I mentioned, BECAUSE OF ME, he got more friends, AND he got a date with C!). I tried pointing this out once, but J claims my methods were "abusive" and "traumatizing".

What right does he have to complain? HE'S the one who decided to get and activate me in the first place! Clearly he's overreacting, and it wasn't that bad.

So, do you all think I'm the asshole for helping my host?

#aita #am i the asshole #unreality #abuse mention #electroshock therapy

[lunaeclipse2024]

Agonizing treatment, the result is worth it though, submission.

#electroshock therapy #electroconvulsive therapy #shock therapy #shock torture

[rani-saha]

#electroshock therapy

[diegothecrazyfemboy]

Wishing someday in my life, to erase all of my problems.....

#ect #electroshock therapy #electroconvulsive therapy #psychiatry #mental hospital #mental patient #crazy

[creature-wizard]

where i live its incredibly easy to stumble upon therapists (with proper degrees, even!!) who encourage and apply new age-y "treatments" to their patients. using myself as an example , i had to deal with electroshock quantum healing & something called emotional freedom techniques. i was wondering if you had any interesting information on those kinds of "treatments" ? thank u in advance !

According to Mayo Clinic, electroshock therapy does have benefits for certain mental conditions when used safely, and where older methods could be harmful, newer ones are much safer. That said, it's no more "quantum" than any other medical treatment, and I'd be a little concerned about anyone who attributed its benefits to ~quantum healing~

EFT is one of those things that I'm finding conflicting information on - some say there's evidence that it works, others say there's insufficient evidence. If there's one thing I can say for it, it probably won't hurt anybody.

#answered #medicine #health #electroshock therapy #eft #emotional freedom technique

[mourningcrypt]

Medical Monday: Electroconvulsive therapy (ECT)

This Jolting form of treatment- which used to be called electroshock or shock treatment was a popular tool in the 20th century, and can still used to this day. To some it’s a helpful remedy for those with depression and other mental disorders, and to others it’s medical torture.

Beginning in 1934, Hungarian psychiatrist Lazlo Meduna needed a new technique to treat mental illnesses by inducing a seizure. At the time, the way to do this would be to inject the patient with an epileptic agent, though it would take minutes after the injection for the seizure to occur. And, those that were given the agent would feel uncomfortably terrified prior to the seizure. Despite this, Meduna would treat a catatonic and mute patient, giving him an epileptogenic agent called camphor through the muscles. This was done about four times throughout the treatment- and after he was able to move, speak and take care of himself. 

Later, two Italian physicians, Ugo Cerletti and Lucio Bini would form the technique of shocking the patient through electric currents. Sadly at first their idea was tested on dogs, where about half of the animals died as result in cardiac arrests. They would put probed into the dog’s mouth and rectum and use an upwards of 125 volts. Later when jolting from the head- it was realized that in this way death was more rare. Soon it was time to use a living person. Their first attempt on a human was on April 11, 1938, where a 39 year old patient by the name of Enrico X was given 11 rounds electroshock treatments within the span of two months. This man was brought to the doctors as a sort of test subject, thinking he was just someone off the street. He wasn’t in the right state of mind to consent to it either. But alas- the treatment went on, and at first, the starting volt was 80, and the final was 110. This was where Cerletti would believe this was a safe and affective treatment on humans. After the 11 rounds concluded, he was able to return to his family who had been looking for him and re-join society.

Unfortunately there are negative stigmas that surround ECT, in the 1950’s it was apart of conversion therapy in Britain. One man who undergone the treatment in 1970’s still suffered from PTSD and terrible mental heath, even over 40 years after the “treatment”.  The thought of banning conversion therapy wouldn’t be brought up until 2018. Another negative practice was its use in mental hospitals in the states. In the 1940’s and 50’s patients at these hospitals would often fall victim to this “treatment” but not always to help with mental disorders but because they were seen as too “unruly” by staff. In this cases they were also not given any proper care such as anesthesia or muscle relaxers, and would even be tied down to further control them.

Today, ECT does have its benefits in relieving symptoms in disorders such as schizophrenia, bipolar, and those suffering from suicidal thoughts- and also help with treating catatonia. Typically this treatment is a last ditch effort if other options such as medications and treatments have not worked. About 100,000 are treated with ECT every year, and it’s recognized all over the world by many medical associations as a viable procedure.

Sources: A Brief History of Electroconvulsive Therapy, What is Electroconvulsive Therapy? (ECT), Electroconvulsive Therapy: A History of Controversy, but Also of Help, Electroconvulsive therapy: 80 years old and still going strong, The Disturbing Story of the First Use of Electroconvulsive Therapy, Gay 'conversion therapy': Man given electric shocks demands apology, Electroconvulsive Therapy (ECT)

#medical monday #mourningcrypt #medical history #dark medical history #electroshock therapy #electroconvulsive therapy