#csa ment

[peasantexchangeprogram]

people on here r rly like 'attraction to big people is fetishistic, attraction to small people is pedophilic, having sexual thoughts about a real person is objectifying and basically harassment (and having them about fictional people is perverted), kinky sex is immoral, if youre open about your sex life in any way youre a pervert, if youre not open about them you are queerbaiting. basically you should be completely sexless while everything you do is sexualized and up for debate/speculation. this is good for the lgbt community'

#csa ment

[euniexenoblade]

it's really such a bizarre thing to see the people on this site accuse every other trans woman of being a pedophile for literally any inconvenience as someone who was groomed, raped, and lived in a home with two pedophiles. i've seen how they get their hooks into kids first hand and i've seen how they escape accountability and gaslight and lie. all this first hand knowledge of the violence they inflict, and yet people on this site call a bitch a pedophile for literally anything. i was gonna say "unapproved kinks" but honestly, it's literally for anything. like yeah maybe they got one right once or something, but their batting average is really really bad and none of them actually know the signs of grooming or pedophilia.

#csa ment #just talking

[springtrappd]

You said in one post that the author of Solar Lunacy is ableist. Could you explain how they're being problematic? I know almost nothing about them or the story itself, so I wouldn't know if they've said or done anything sus. Also, thank you for actually criticizing the Daycare Attendant stans, almost nobody in this site does that.

thank you for asking! it's rare to see, you're right, but it's also rare that people are willing to actually engage with that critical posting, so -- again, thank you! as for your question: oh boy, can i!

first: the basics. dissociation is a psychological response to overwhelming stress wherein the brain... disassociates from itself, placing a barrier between itself and the harsh reality. the most famous dissociative disorder is dissociative identity disorder (DID), known formerly as multiple personality disorder (MPD) or split personality. did occurs when someone without a fully-formed identity (read: a child) undergoes such severe stress that the 'brain' dissociates from its identity itself, creating alternate identities (personalities) to deal with the things they can't. these alternate identities work together to form a system. it's way more complicated than that and you can read more on it here and here but that's the bare minimum for the ignorant in the audience. we all caught up? good! moving on.

now, the question of whether or not the daycare attendant is a system is a touchy one. i've seen multiple different stances on the matter, seen a lot of arguments, and typed (and deleted) several hundreds of words about it, and the answer that i've come to is that, for the sake of this argument, whether the dca is a system in canon doesn't matter. what matters is how bamsara treats them. how do they handle the characters, how do they frame the switches in personality, the confusion, all the parallels to real-world symptoms -- how do they expect the viewer to feel, what do they pull from the cultural lexicon, yadda yadda. does bamsara -- regardless of their intentions -- depict the dca as a system, and if so, how do they handle it?

the answer is that they depict the dca as experiencing altered identity states, switching (and even blurring) between identities, and even repeatedly acknowledges them as a plural entity.

and it is these behaviours, specifically, that are used to make the dca scary. bamsara's daycare attendant is scary because they experience altered identity states. because they blur identities. because they are a plural entity. because they display the textbook symptoms and behaviours of a disorder most commonly caused by childhood sexual abuse. and it is the fear that this is inspires that makes them (but especially moon & eclipse) sexy.

now, one can argue that this is simply in line with existing horror media, and they would be correct: most pop culture depictions of dissociative disorders are extremely ableist, and have real-world consequences! but what makes it really, really shitty is that... i don't want to think about this stuff. i don't come to fandom to be reminded that people are terrified of what they don't understand, and that that very very often includes the mentally ill. i don't want to be reminded that there are people who don't believe dissociative disorders exist at all. i don't want to reminded that they -- the sick, the survivors, the unlucky 140 million -- are spoken of in the same way as monsters. i don't come here for harsh realities. but solar lunacy is the most kudos'd fnaf fic on ao3, and we all have to live with that.

if you liked solar lunacy or bamsara's content or... whatever, i don't particularly care. i'm not mad about people thinking evil alters are sexy, or engaging with horror content that says shitty things about systems -- it's your life, live it how you please (and i've got a vanny icon so who am i to judge lmao). sometimes the things that make us happy are kinda shitty, and that's okay! our views are shaped by the society we live in, and there is no society on earth that is kind to the mentally ill -- there's no way to undo that, to stop that from influencing you in some capacity. but... all i ask is for you to think about this stuff, and try to educate yourself on the topic. there's nothing wrong with making a mistake, or having flaws -- but there's something wrong with making a space that feels unsafe, that reflects some of the more uncomfortable aspects of our society, that unintentionally hurts people. it's just up to you if that something is something you care about.

i hope that answers your question, anon (and anyone else who's curious). take care, mate!

(edit 13/01/2023: due to some technical difficulties on tumblr's end, the notes aren't quite showing up properly, so here's the link to bamsara's reblog chain if you can't find it.)

#speaking! #asks #anon #bamsara #fnaf #discourse #long post #loooong looooooong post #sorry it got so long!! i have a lot to say abt this topic #& wanted to do my due diligence #so doubly sorry if there are any errors... 'tis midnight #also: don't ask if i have did/am a system please! #it's extremely rude and confronting to ask someone something like that #just like. putting that out there. #anyway #csa ment #child abuse ment #bs saga

[lockandkeyhyena]

some more exploratory sketches. while the story itself focuses on the aftermath of the abuse, i wanted to get down my ideas for the dynamic that occurred during the abuse.

alvin is a very self-pitying character, he uses his low self esteem to manipulate others into doing things for him because they feel sorry for him. he genuinely believes he deserves to get whatever he wants because he had a sad childhood and has convinced himself of his own excuses. he believes what he’s saying in the final image, because to face the truth of his actions would be too much to bear. however he’s more scared of getting caught than at the concept that he’s hurting someone.

he would frequently guilt trip ethan into doing whatever he wanted, followed up by rewarding him with good grades and gifts. ethan really looked up to him and viewed him as one of the very few trustworthy adult figures in his life.

#yeen art #implied csa #abuse cw #manipulation cw #csa ment #abuse ment #grooming ment #anyway. would appreciate people’s thoughts on the characterisation so far! #but after today i won’t be posting anything non palestine related for the next week! #alvin adams #ethan beck #hell story #alvin’s infurno

[annabelle--cane]

the blind white-hot rage I feel whenever people misunderstand "all you wanna do" and very angrily insist it romanticizes csa because they have no ability to pick up on even the most basic narrative subtext and have decided to make that everyone else's problem

#marlow and moss weren't just slapping words onto a page willy nilly and accidentally writing a song about rape it's like that For A Reason #six the musical #csa ment #marina marvels at life

[jewish-skitter]

I can't imagine reading Worm without parsing Alec as an incredibly traumatized kid who just so happens to coincidentally look and act like a total dick most of the time. Like, even if you don't fully piece together that "cape groupies" probably means him being prostituted to adults, which I didn't until Iota spelled it out, it's still pretty hard to imagine a little kid being the uncomplicated aggressor.

#csa ment

[wariocompany]

My 000 story is that when I was like three my mum gave me her old mobile phone (like a Nokia basically) without the SIM. I was kinda sad I couldn't call anyone and so when I saw "Emergency Calls Only" on the screen I was like. Right. Okay. And I called it for like half a second before I panicked and hung up. My parents always explained to me that I should call 000 if something happened but if I called for no reason I'd get in a lot of trouble with the police. So I felt anxious about it for years thinking one day I was gonna be arrested for calling them.

Anyway like a few years later my mum read me a book called "some secrets should never be kept". Idk maybe you guys know it. Basically it's a book used to teach kids to speak up about CSA if they experience it and are told to keep it a secret. And I understood that much but I kind of generalised the message so I thought it was just like. Tell your parents your secrets even if you feel anxious about it. So mum ended the story and asked "is there anything you'd like to tell me?" And I was like. Mummy I'm so sorry a few years ago I called the police

#csa ment #But hardly

[pillowprincessvarric]

I'm going to be honest with you gentlemen. I don't think it's "literally 90s moral panic shit" to say that it isn't terribly surprising that yanderedev is a groomer

#''is this really different than saying that it isn't surprising when a dnd player is a murderer'' it is. #it is different #csa ment #twitter is hell btw & that's why im making so many posts like this. hi.

[sodomy-enabler]

some tumblr users are so baffling to me

you're not a rebel or weird for jerking off to incest or sexualizing children because rape culture child abuse and familial abuse are the status quo under (white cishetero) patriarchy and xtian hegemony. like sorry you take homophobes and transmisogynists and catholic priests and abusers in general at face value when they pretend to condemn these things and that makes you feel like a cool sex freak or whatever when you spam csa in the tags of children's cartoons, but those conservatives are completely fine with this shit bc it's a useful tool to keep people under their control, and these things are very much the norm because of that, you are the boring normie here lmao

and no amount of misusing the term "thought crime!" or telling yourself that you're queering it or appropriating it from conservatives is going to convince feminists, antiracist & queer/lgbt+ activists and people interested in youth liberation to take you seriously because you're, at best, useless to their cause

#rape ment #incest ment #csa ment #i don't have the spoons to flesh out my serious opinion on this rn im just making fun of these people #im so tired of these posers trying to convince everyone that what they're doing is subversive. huff an armpit and piss on your friends ffs

[peasantexchangeprogram]

I know the "i support every relationship as long as its legal and moral" is part of a joke tiktok but like. in a lot of places gay relationships are illegal. in a lot of places gay relationships are immoral. in some places, child brides, or kidnapping brides are both legal and moral. in some places a premarital relationship is immoral. or extramarital relationships, even platonic ones. in some places marital rape is legal and moral. i just dont think "legal and moral" should be a good base to uncritically construct your viewpoint on issues around.

#rape ment #csa ment

[c0rpseductor]

i complained briefly about this on twitter (“briefly,” he says. Actually i complained about it for quite some time and with vigor) but i hate that godawful website because i am a verbose autist and a tweet is only about a sentence or two long. for me. so i will try to pursue a thought about it here from beginning to end, outside of the constraints of twitter’s character limit (which is targeting me personally)

i have tried on and off for hours to get my mind off this, but i was really upset and disappointed to find out that richard siken not only did write wincest himself but seems to approve of approaching incest from the angle of sexual fantasy in general — these tweets about it are really sticking in my craw, and apparently they are from an interview he did in 2015, but the whole thing just came up again and it’s not my favorite take!

the question about consequences — and “question” is generous, i know he’s already years ago come to the conclusion that whatever consequences exist as a result of such narratives do not matter — gets me bc it’s like, dude, i KNOW what the consequences are. from experience. i have lived with them all my life.

the cycle is as such: writers portray incest as mutual sexual deviance as opposed to the reality of it being violence. literature portrays it as such, pop culture portrays it as such, fanfiction portrays it as such, it is widely discussed as such — as an example, try really thinking about how often perceived promiscuity is blamed on “daddy issues,” and what that may imply. many people never have any personal experience with incest or with survivors and come to regard it as a distant sort of kink activity, or an imaginary, almost fun and racy sort of violence that happens to a distinct class of subhuman other totally segregated from human society. survivors are blamed because the dominant cultural narrative believes they are willing participants and not victims of rape, survivors internalize shame and do not come forward. survivors often come forward to partners who find their childhood trauma (incestuous abuse is most often CSA) arousing. the online support group i frequent has a recurring problem of lurkers who use DMs to sexually harass psychologically vulnerable victims of abuse while they are in crisis. society does not take us seriously because the violence we face is seen not as violence, but as a category of pornography.

furthermore, trying to say this makes me the bad guy. to frankly and clearly state the harm perpetuated against me and others by these cultural narratives & their continuation in every aspect of life is regarded as puritanical and Orwellian. nevermind that the proliferation of such ideas & narratives and my exposure to them left me terrified that my closest friends would think i was a pervert for disclosing sexual abuse from my parents, nevermind that I spent years being told by my abusers and society at large that i’d brought it on myself, nevermind that i’m continually surrounded by that rhetoric every day and continue to have salt rubbed in the already unbelievably painful wounds — some people are criticized for publishing wincest fic in ao3, and this is the truest sort of victim; surely someone who was merely raped by his father for years could not understand the pain and martyrdom of being called an asshole online. THIS is the real concern. upholding the secret and mystique around intrafamilial sexual violence for the sake of shippers’ enjoyment of a middling CW show from 2004 is how we will fix society, no matter how many incest survivors’ dignity we must sacrifice to make it happen

anyway. i think this guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about, but trying to convince anyone that this stuff is even tangentially related to the experiences of real human beings who may see it and be hurt is a good deal like trying to tell people unicorns are real, in that they will laugh in your face.

#csa ment #incest ment #if you say any dumb shit to me on this post i will drive a semi through your living room and turn you into a fine gory mist

[batmanshole]

"but censorship is a slippery slope!!" if thinking your rape fanfic of literal children shouldnt be allowed is censorship then call me Big Brother.

#rape ment #csa ment #ask to tag

[clonehub]

I'm looking up adult victims of child sexual/emotional/physical abuse because I want to be sure I have all the traits right with Ridge and Jax (I parallel and contrast them a lot in the story)

Ridge:

impulsive (breaking regs, tattoos and piercings, also how he talks a lot of the time)

depressed

intimacy problems (regardless of whether its platonic/familial or not)

self-sabotaging behavior (when given the opportunity he'll overconsume things he knows will make him sick, like caffeine and candy)

difficulty in handling feelings

Jax

low self esteem (regularly devalues and deprioritizes himself)

anxiety

difficulty handling feelings

physical ailments (difficulty breathing)

Jax is more aware of why he is the way he is, than Ridge is of himself. Jax can sense that something happened in Ridge's past to make him the way he is now, so he approaches Ridge with a lot of understanding and gentleness and patience while Ridge gets comfortable with the idea of being close to other people.

This is helping me realize that Ridge doesn't have many avenues to be impulsive physically, outside the tattoos and candy habits. But he can be impulsive verbally, meaning that he'll say things that are purposely incendiary or otherwise meant to get under the skin of authority figures specifically. Ridge vowed to make his personality the big, bold, forward type as a form of self defense, since he was taken advantage of for being meek. His attention-seeking behavior is because of the abuse. Jax's attention-avoidant behavior is because of the abuse. Jax doesn't approach Ridge as an authority figure, which is why Ridge trusts him so much. Jax knows about Ridge's other life (not all of it, but a lot of it).

#ch posts #mod oc #ridge #jax #i love thinking of them together #jax is just hearing ridge talk and being like. i can count down to the specific day that made you like this #csa ment #abuse ment #idk why i turned reblogs off on this

[lockandkeyhyena]

i really think the dehumanisation of criminals and terrible people is concerning. yes, sex offenders are terrible people, but they’re still people, and deserve basic human rights. human rights shouldn’t only extend to people you think deserve them, if only because the powers that be will always find a way to classify marginalised groups as part of those terrible people.

think of the way trans people are being labelled child rapists, and that crime is being pushed to be punishable by the death penalty in some american states. if you can’t bring yourself to think child predators deserve basic human rights, at least think about the fact that if there is a group it is considered righteous to purge, bigots will always try and label minorities part of that group.

#yeen rambles #csa ment

[oathofkaslana]

ok reasons why i think colleination as a whole would like bronya:

canonical disabled lesbian :)

her whole arc is about her own agency and her intense love of others reflecting off of that (contradicting her emotional impairment left on her by an experiment she was apart of) which is so fucking reminiscent of collei's entire arc which centers on her capability of growing and loving (something she was always told wasnt an option for her!)

also had a kill count as a young child.

hnnnn constantly dehumanizes herself as a child soldier who's experiences sexual exploitation but her characters evolution surrounds how entirely human she is and how loving she is and how good she is it actually makes me so fucking sick oh my god.. anyways is that not wt collei.. CMON FUCK.

complex familial relationships.. dear god.

she's also snarky and sarcastic one of her affectionate nicknames for one of her best friends is just calling her an idiot <3

#csa ment #sa ment #csa tw #bronya #hnk3 #gi

[huayno]

since i've reccomended crazy like us many times i want everyone to know that ethan watters uses the model of the symptom pool that is central to that book to argue that anyone claiming to have remembered csa should be suspected of being duped by recovered memory therapy.

in his eyes this includes not just the much more limited population of those who actually underwent the now discredited treatment method but anyone who realizes they were abused. he makes no distinction between a therapist who uses these techniques and one who suggests a patient shows signs of cptsd, between someone who sees a therapist and someone who's read the courage to heal, between someone who believes they've repressed a perfectly preserved memory and someone who says they remembered by some other means, or recontextualized what they've always remembered.

it's all part of the same cultural hysteria to him, and apparently all capable of creating false memories of abuse, an idea just as controversial that as the mechanism of repressed memories. i don't claim to understand exactly how trauma impacts memory but the conception of false memory syndrome is a longstanding bludgeon against anyone alleging abuse, starting with the daughter of the academics who came up with it.

if this weren't enough, watters is interested in understanding the issue of "gender identity" through the symptom pool model using recovered memory therapy as an analogue. he's already surrounding himself with transphobes and i would expect a book from him in the future about how transness is a product of psychiatry that ignores the well documented history of trans people struggling for any modicum of respect despite the best efforts of psychiatrists.

i won't tell anyone not to read his books at all, but let's stop promoting him.

#long post bc he did not tweet some faux pas he is advocating discrediting groups of people who are already vulnerable #csa ment