#conditioned by the outside world

[1introvertedsage]

Being so conditioned by society, a person can go their entire life not knowing who they really are.

#self reflection #conditioned #society #life #who are you #carbon copy #be yourself #think different #conditioned by the outside world #reflections #know yourself #societal norms #societal standards #societal expectations #love different #live different #against the grain #robot #different matters #clones #LHA #1introvertedsage #are you who you think you are #simulation #puppet #who controls the strings #think for yourself #think free #free thinkers society #sad

[rubiatinctorum]

I get where people are coming from when they say Diaspro in Winx lost the plot for the sake of being turned into a minor villain and that's all once Valtor enabled her to do what she did in S3, but I feel like that was a reasonable narrative choice. It's only a love potion at that point (while I could go on all day about the ethics of love potions, of course, a later season has her straight up trying to do direct murder). She's a noble, guards will do her dirty work, and I understand that she would feel like getting revenge on Bloom while getting back together with Sky. She was promised a position — romantic AND political — she nearly had and then it was taken from under her by a random fairy who wasn't even "supposed" to be in the running. I don't think what she did was nice, but it makes sense for the story and for her character for her to want to reclaim her position in the way she did. Sky's love was an accessory, in part, to her political ascension, and thus he is again rendered accessory and accomplice by the love spell. And, sending guards after threats seems to be the thing to do in the magical universe if you're a disgruntled noble, so it's probably not unfamiliar for Diaspro to have seen occur before or want to do. It's not a uniquely rotten response any more than Radius' behaviour towards the monster (who, he didn't know it, was Stella). If we fault her for this action rather than only the intention behind it, we need to examine how the worlds in Winx Club deal with threats to their monarchs in general, which sounds interesting but I frankly don't have time for tonight. Diaspro did wrong, but she didn't do uniquely wrong there, and Eraklyon has the punitive security structures in place to have enabled that.

Diaspro's later appearances seem to flatten her motives and the symbolism behind why her relationship with Sky was important and what she does about it (who cares what Diaspro's political aims are and how her status might reflect how she deals with problems, the audience needs to see Bloom thrown into fire I guess), but I feel like seasons 4-8 weren't really that good anyway, so I can't even claim this as a fault of the writers doing Diaspro specifically wrong instead of them just doing the whole show wrong at that point. It might be related, and it might be a coincidence, but a lot of the writing choices seemed to become more flat to me right around when the art shifted to that lifeless godawful Flash simulacrum of S1-3's art.

Also like... idk but if some long-haired hottie wizard in a sick coat and contemplative eyeshadow told me he could help me get my promised chance at both romantic and political success back, I'd at least hear him out, yknow, see what he had to say (<- don't trust me I simp for Valtor)

#rubia speaks #winx club #winx #diaspro #winx diaspro #not supporting women's wrongs but parsing them in context #actually you know what. love u bloom but i have a diaspro apologism streak in me #love potion BAD AWFUL ROTTEN but the guards? we need to interrogate the king about that one i think #and make ur guards pass a basic test on the obvious visual difference between a fairy and a witch idk :/ #is diaspro entitled to sky's love and the political position of being his wife? no. does it narratively make sense for her to be mad? yeah #is her position of having been given the expectation of a certain status and result and having it 'undermined' a compelling one? yeah! #i think there's a lot to say about expectation vs reality and the burden of unfulfilled unsealed commitments in Diaspro's situation #and the societal structures in Eraklyon that allow her to act outside of due process because she's big mad as long as the king is cool w he #how the nobles protect their own class and interests even when Sky is acting unusual from VALTOR'S FUCKING MAGIC DAMN #now if she could just drop the magical coercion and the classism and the witch slander.......... #interesting how that arc makes Bloom almost an underdog when... babe.... ur a Princess. #Sky's not out here marrying a commoner he's courting a princess of another world #.... sociopolitical views of Domino by other worlds? Bloom acting vs not acting the part of how a princess acts on Eraklyon? #Bloom as a Lesser Princess because of the condition of Domino? #Association with the Winx and Alfea in general making of her a symbolic commoner? #much to consider about Bloom's 'underdog' role compared to Diaspro in the Eraklyon Engagement Era

[movedtodykedvonte]

Just saw a post about Jester’s Privilege and (link) for those who want a definition and I wanna apply it to Spamvil:

Imagine Spamton and Jevil are thoroughly in the dating/smitten phase but Jevil still cannot stop making jabs and jokes at Spamton’s expense. Cute moment’s inturupted by a riddle mocking Spam’s gushiness or just a jab at his world view. It’s all in good fun, that’s just Jevil’s humor and the way he plays around. But Spamton takes so much of it to heart cuz it’s his partner saying it and it’s already hard enough to decipher what Jevil general means about certain things, let alone if he genuinely respects him in the relationship. 

Cue Spamton just straight up having this like break down cause he needs to know if Jevil means the jokes he makes or why he makes them so often and Jevil’s just like “They are just jokes, jokes? Why are you so wound up, up?” cause he’s a jester and the card kingdom’s resident madman, no one has ever taken him seriously because his whole existence is being part of the bit. Then Spamton has to explain that his words mean a lot to him and that in their more intimate moments they aren’t just words or a bit but something he has to take to heart because being part of a relationship require you to take your partner seriously and Spamton needs that part. 

So for the first time in a long time Jevil has to reevaluate that some games and jesting should be paused or reserved and it’s important to check when a joke doesn’t land, cause for a first time in a long time or ever his words actually matter/mean something to someone.

#that moment when you realize that constantly calling ur partner a illusioned fool is no peak flirting #or that making fun of his desires for normalcy is not exactly rizz #spamvil #spamton x jevil #jevil deltarune #jevil #spamton #spamton g spamton #this could technically be for any period of spamvil #just the idea Jevil lives outside of rules and conditions #but bases his freedom on not adhering to a specific set of rules #thus creating rules for his definition of what freedom truly is defeating the purpose of a world without rules #but in this case believing he can say whatever cuz if his worlds truly don't matter then why hold back or filter himself #only to realize that they in fact do because the other already doesn't adhere to the rules he perverts #im in a shipping discussion moode #send asks while i write the fic chapter #should be out later tonight/morning of the 20th

[ivie-online]

was going to comment on the ‘failure of basic journalistic dilligence in the mass media’ or whatever but realized it would make it seem as of the problem was a momentary lapse in integrity that had been addressed. and it hasn’t been, not in the slightest.

It is so morally unthinkable that these major outlets never once mentioned the thousands of Palestinian adults and children stolen from their homes and from the streets by Israel. And even now, when it comes to their release, these pieces spend endless paragraphs describing Israeli ‘hostages’, but just a few words on the many children being returned (many of whom were arrested after being accosted by the IOF), who they refer to only as ‘prisoners’.

these white supremacist rags have been very consistent in their efforts to uphold the most violent tendencies of western imperialists, yes. but this refusal to acknowledge the reality of the situation: that Israel took thousands of hostages first, is one of the most blatant examples of their explicit support of this project, and of their mass failure to recognize the humanity of Palestinians.

#palestine #from the river to the sea #western journalism #liberalism #one uses a single sentence to describe how easily Israel kidnaps palestinians #but never once refers to these captives as anything other than prisoners #there’s a connection to be made to the dehumanization of those accused of crime and held in torturous conditions in western jails & prisons #but to state plainly that the iof is harassing/kidnapping/and jailing children for YEARS #without offering so much as a paragraph to define administrative detention #namely the lack of any evidence/proof that wrong doing has occurred #and then complete loss of contact with family and the outside world for these palestinians #it’s so deeply evil

[crimson-nail]

sorry but i will just never understand people who read the ending of trimax as bleak

#it is spelled out on the page that the days are both tough and tender #on. the page. the best and kindest thing that humans can choose is compassion and communication #and then they do #if it shoved comfort down our throats for the sake of ‘closure’ the significance would’ve been compromised #some people have lost the ability to engage with hurt/comfort outside of through a shipping lens and it really really shows #discourse again. sorry #i have a lot of thoughts abt this series. and its meaning #and most of them are so so very uplifting of the human condition #bc it is honest that life is not perfect and shiny and sweet and that is a WONDERFUL thing. #the world is what we make of it and when we choose to use our free will for empathy we are adding notes to the ongoing song #glorifying not strength not power not violence but COMMUNICATION #plain and simple #and the tenacity it requires #and how it will pay off in the end when you are heard #stories where humanity isn’t perfect and they aren’t condemned for that fact are so precious to me #trimax and mp100 are right next to each other in my heart

[girlscience]

you know all the jokes about how the 'view post' button that pops up with the blacklisting function on tumblr is the most enticing button in the world?? the a/b/o tag on ao3 functions the exact same way for me

#I AM SO ANGRY. I KNEW I shouldn't have clicked on the fic #I KNEW I wouldn't like it!!!! guess what I did anyway???? #I can handle abo under very very specific conditions and only if it is about very specific subject matter #a lot of abo smut tropes are extremely similar to a lot of non abo smut tropes I enjoy #outside of that???? the abo universe was practically designed with the express puropse of causing me distress #and I know that!!!! but there is So Much of it so sometimes I read it anyway #and sometimes I read it because I see the tags and the summary and I know I am going to get upset #but like. I HAVE to poke at it you know?? #anyway now I'm pissed off about a world that doesn't exist and my anger means uhhh nothing #because there isn't actually anything to be upset about or to fix #I know there are filters on ao3 so I couuuuld block abo #but it has so many tag variations that it's honestly not even worth it #if I just had better self control I wouldn't have this problem lol

[tlaquetzqui]

Near as I can figure, a laser’s effective range varies linearly with its frequency (or inversely with the wavelength). So if your Luke Campbell heavy laser has a range of 350 meters in 1064 nanometer infrared (the wavelength of a neodymium-doped yttrium aluminum garnet—Nd:YAG—laser), it will have a range of 700 meters in frequency-doubled 532 nanometer green. And a range of 1050 meters (!) in frequency-tripled 335 nanometer UV.

You might say atmosphere is opaque to UV, but nope, that’s only UVC (100–280 nanometers). UVB (280–315 nanometers) will stick around till it hits ozone, and UVA (315–400 nanometers) is basically visible light, as far as air is concerned. (It’s UVA that marsupials and diapsids can see and placental mammals can’t. No real point in their being able to see a wavelength that air is opaque to, now is there? There’s also a reason sunscreen only rates for UVA and UVB; UVC is stopped on the other side of the entire sky.)

#i think there are issues with wear on the components and efficiency of getting the light coherent for uv lasers #but in a scifi setting we can say the tech has advanced to the point where that issue is overcome #just like we say the laser weapons are like 80% efficient #rather than 20–50% like in current lasers outside laboratory conditions #worldbuilding #world building #scifi worldbuilding #scifi writing #i write military science fiction

[decepti-geek]

the thing I keep thinking about really intensely is that yes, for like 99% of their acquaintance, Crowley was the one who had more understanding of the way heaven and hell really work. but for that brief moment in their first meeting, he genuinely was more naive and idealistic than Aziraphale. like, Aziraphale was scared, even back then, at the thought of questioning god; even right back before the beginning, some part of him knew that he was fearful and unsafe, and he realised that before Crowley ever did. 

it’s honestly almost like some kind of, Aziraphale fell first, Crowley Fell harder - he never completed the realisation the same way Crowley managed to, but he arrived there earlier. And I wonder so much what exact kind of effects witnessing the demons’ fall had on him, given that he’d already obtained some of that awareness that he perhaps was not in a very good place to be. but the only alternative of places to go, as far as he knew, was at the very least just as bad, and in some ways legitimately worse.

#good omens spoilers #good omens #aziraphale #crowley #i think it's interesting because i know there's been comparisons to irl religious sects/cults with aziraphale #but i feel like the idea of the alternative to your current bad place being somewhere Worse works in like #a metaphorical sense but less so in a literal one #because i think that the thing with irl conditioning is the Worse Place is generally just anywhere outside of the community #which is made to appear as somewhere hostile and unwelcoming as part of the conditioning #and like sure earth is not actually that #and in that way does represent the not-so-bad and potentially good place that the real world actually is #in comparison to the community that wants to keep him #but equally in aziraphale's case #hell is not a tool for fearmongering or a thing you can like #eventually discover not to be an Absolute Belief the way it's presented #Aziraphale's situation in comparison to irl religious indoctrination is really weird because hell is REAL #and genuinely is awful #there's a terrible place beyond the neutral real world where he could actually end up #and we know it was awful for Crowley being there #and heaven is awful too but they are both notably distinct from the kind of potentially awful which earth can be #and i do this with pretty much Every fantasy/scifi heightened version of irl phenomena which i encounter #but it's gotta have a different impact on your brain right #getting out from under your conditioning somewhat because you've found the neutral real world #and you're experiencing stuff that challenges your beliefs and shows you that there's more than you realised #but at the same time that moment of realising that you don't have to believe in the terrible consequences you were raised to fear #never comes #because you KNOW that place exists #and you know somebody who went there and despises it #who in fact actively works to prevent you from having to go there too

[confused-stars]

new theory mostly based on hope: even if Visions might be given out by Celestia/the Archons in service of Celestia for some self-serving reason now (monitoring people, controlling them, or possibly using them as some sort of willpower batteries after their death), i don't think that was the original purpose

i think it's possible that Visions are older than gnoses and that they were originally intended as a reward and aid for those humans with ambition strong enough to change the world to their will. and then the Heavenly Principles came along to corrupt the already existing system

i just don't want Visions to turn out to be an entirely sinister thing okay

#genshin #absolutely wild speculation here but #i do think humans were always supposed to be able to influence the world and use its elemental power. why create them without that option #(that is if they were created and not just brought in from outside) #(egeria obviously would have had to very painstakingly recreate those conditions for her own humans)

[diegoshargrieves]

listening to my parents talk about me is so fucking funny. "she's dealt with us for so long that at this point she's done. she's mentally checked out from having to give a shit about anyone. can you believe how corruptible she is just because she's almost an adult and she thinks that we're not her problem anymore?"

like man you are literally so close. so fucking close.

#no it's not that ive dealt with everyone for my whole life and now im selfish and dont want to give a shit about anyone anymore #its that ive dealt with everyone my entire life ive been an emotional support pillar ive been rotting in this toxic dysfunctional household #ive been a third parent ive stepped in for my dad when he spontaneously decides to be a deadbeat ive supported my mom without fail #whenever shes needed it for years. ive dealt with everyones fits of mania & psychosis & breakdowns & chronic pain & depressive episodes #ive had my mental illness trivialized and belitted and downplayed. im exhausted and traumatized and so fucking burned out #of course it looks like ive given up on everyone from the outside because im struggling !! im struggling mentally and emotionally #and its spilling out in all the wrong ways and they just see it as me letting my anger ruin my character and everyone else around me #they dont care if theres something wrong with me even though im throwing out signs and cries for help literally wherever i can #they just care that theyre affected by it and inconvenienced by my deteriorating mental condition #they think this mentally ill freak is just what i am at this point and they cant stop emotionally blackmailing me #by reminiscing about how i used to be so kind and optimistic. i wish they would just fucking see me for once #ive played the role of the good emotional support eldest daughter my entire life. why didnt they think it would blow up at some point #and when i have tried opening up in moments of severe emotional vulnerability they just throw it back in my face later on #while simultaneously telling me i just need to change my outlook on life because im still young and cant define myself by childish problems #mom you are depressed and anxious you should recognize it better than anyone. you should be able to see it for what it is #instead of telling me to go spend a week volunteering at a cancer hospital so i can go see what real problems exist for people in the world #and what other people are going through and maybe ill come out with a new appreciation for life #mom just bc people are dying of cancer doesnt mean i can't be depressed just bc other people have it worse doesnt mean i cant have it bad #im so fucking tired! #3 am vent post yippee i am going to regret oversharing on the internet so badly when i wake up tmrw

[maraeffect]

started watching hopecore right before bed and MAN. what a life it is we live on this earth.

#it's a lottery every time someone is born!!! people achieve their dreams every day #others die. others bury loved ones. others get married. others have kids. others separate. still others choose to be alone #and what decides your path is largely up to who conceived you; where and at what time #the rest is blindly writhing around trying to change your circumstances and sometimes there's luck #every single person on this planet has their own inner monologue. their own family. their own dreams #we all just wade through our experiences and maybe leave a cascade of small influences around us #and at and time BOOM! you could just crease to exist!! you could walk outside right now and get struck by lightning #and your story is over #i guess no one is ever ready to think about stuff like that. but it's the truth #and the hardest question you'll ever have to answer is 'how do i spend my time in a way that leaves me truly happy?' #i don't think anyone ever knows the answer to that. not quickly at least #but no matter what you do the sun still rises the next morning and the moon comes out the next night #our rocks in space rotate and revolve like they have done for billions of years. and they'll keep doing it #time stops for no one. we all live and die. and no one but you can decide what will make you happy in the end #this weird little science experiment we are. our little self contained world #we're essentially the universe's terrarium. we're the little tiny creatures that live and reproduce and die inside #and what's it all for anyway? IDK. i think we're meant to do as much of what makes us happy as possible #even if there is no ''point'' to earth being the exact right conditions to create human life; we can make our own meaning #we don't all live or suffer or laugh or cry or fall in love for a reason. there's no telling why it all happens #it just does. so we make our own meanings. #crazy to think we all might have ended up here by accident. or coincidence #makes you think or whatever someone would end this with #chatter #uhhhhhh should i trigger tags this???? IDK what to tag #existential #also ignore my abundance of typos I'm literally laying in bed trying to get sleepy lol

[kiilonova]

kind of really sick of being the disabled example people point to when the y dont wanna examine their rude behavior. kind of so fucking tired of it.

#cro zone #when i was younger this manifested as unnecessary hatred toward ppl with adhd (even tho i have it myself) bc thats who i saw do it most #but every day i go in the notes of some post asking people for the bare minimum of kindness or respect and theres someone saying #'what about ppl who cant talk? what about ppl who lack empathy? what about ppl who dont get to go outside? what abt ppl who r slow??' #WHAT ABOUT LISTEN TO WHAT I ACTUALLY HAVE TO SAY HUH??!?!!?!! #the fact is that you see me as inherently rude disrespectful inconsiderate and strange just bc of my conditions #without seeing any of the effort i go thru to be a kind and considerate person regardless. something i struggle with every single day #bc it matters to me to make the world a nice place to live despite all my fucking problems + the fact i wont be in it that long

[constantvariations]

Something I'll never understand about transphobes is their misunderstanding of how their hatred is going to backfire

It shouldn't take a genius to realize that in order to """eradicate the transgenders""" you need strict enforcement, which means that individual autonomy is being dictated by an outside party. These idiots, in their baseless hatred of a demographic, have opened the door for the government to have even more access to every single body under their domain

It is no coincidence that Roe v Wade was overturned in the tide of transphobic rhetoric. It is no coincidence that laws are being pushed to allow children's genitals to be examined in order for them to play sports in the tide of transphobia. It is no coincidence that in an economic crisis that makes the Great Depression look like a fucking picnic there is a focus on """the trans issue"""

Y’all radfems are allowing yourselves to be played like the kazoos you are because your hatred for a demographic overrides even your own self preservation. Is it really worth losing your right to your own damn body to own the trannys? It better be because that's what yall are fucking rooting for

#seriously yall are fucking stupid and self inflammatory #'yeah let me retraumatize myself indefinitely for no reason other than to condition myself to have knee jerk reactions to situations' #the world youre hurtling us towards is gonna make handmaids tale look like a fucking utopia #seriously just bc you aint first on the hit list DONT MEAN YOU AINT ON THE HIT LIST #by siding with republicans/conservatives you are actively helping them go down that list and accelerating your own demise #think for two goddamn seconds outside your immediate goal and guess at how these fascists are going to use their newfound control #you will not be thanked #you will not be spared #you will be either subjugated or killed #those are your options #stand with autonomy even if you dont like it or die when your masters turn on you #anti radfem #anti transphobes #fuck all yall #venting into the void

[deus-ex-mona]

i think that about covers the ✨entire population✨

#this started off as a complaint about inconsiderate commuters and my strange coworkers… and somehow ended with my grandparents lmao #idk why but my coworkers seem to really like physical contact for some reason?? i’m not used to it at all man… #like there could be a ton of space behind me but this coworker would walk directly up behind me and pat my back or something? lady pls #or i could be looking at my results and my other coworker would just randomly hug me and i??? lady pls???? i’m so confused #and the thing is… i really really hate being touched by any other person (except my mother. she’s fine) so i’m just (ʘ‿ʘ) throughout it all #and speaking of physical contact… those commuters. man. ಠ‿ಠ #who brings their prams out at like 7.25am anyway? it’s early as balls and the kid’s still asleep 80% of the time anyway #pls take your kids out on a family trip later in the day… yk… when people aren’t trying to squeeze onto the train to get to work??? #and they almost always choose to stand right smack in the middle of the train… right in front of the door to boot. at least move in???? #and sometimes (the worst times) the kids are obviously old enough to walk around (and are in fact running around the train at that moment)… #…but the parent keeps the pram unfolded in all its oversized glory anyway. like whyyyyyyyyy #so now not only do commuters have to squeeze together because of a lack of space… #…they now have to shuffle around to avoid bumping into the kid. like ughhhhhhhhhhhh i hate trains sm #and also! those people who purposely stand on the side of the escalator that people walk up on and refuse to walk???? hate them too #i’ve missed so many trains because of them ಠ‿ಠ especially if they stop moving right at the end of the escalator (ʘ‿ʘ) #screw trains fr >:( buses are much better!! the air conditioning is better on buses too!!!!!! #life was much better in quarantine ngl. i could shut myself out from the outside world and just ✨thrive✨ in peace… #those overly-specific things in the dni list are all based on my family members and former acquaintances lmao #shoutout to my chopper-wielding border hopping grandpa and self-hammering grandma!!! i barely knew you guys!!!! #wait come to think of it… i have never really had a single conversation with any of my grandparents. whoops. #i don’t even know their names either… double whooooooops #and so that marks the end of my pointless rant for now. i could’ve just summed this up as ‘dni if you’re human’ tbh #i’ve even done like quite a few of these things on my own list do… dni: me??? (ʘ‿ʘ) if only that was possible aha… #…well i didn’t cry while watching dear layla. lol. that’s the one thing i can definitively say i didn’t and will never do— #inedible blubbering #sunday’s 🧂saltfest🧂

[gamagoori]

i get a loooooot of gym tiktoks when i scroll on youtube shorts and every single youtube short of a woman lifting has so many misogynist comments. EVERY SINGLE ONE!! if she's wearing something skin tight there will be men saying that she would shame someone for staring at her in the gym but still posts her ass on the internet. if she's doing leg day there will be men saying women never work out upper body. if she has a big upper body there will be men calling her male. if she's a powerlifter squatting 200 goddamn kilograms men will be making fun of how many spotters she has. and i see none of this shit on gym tiktoks made by men. men will make gym tiktoks wearing only short shorts and making sexual jokes every 20 seconds and all the comments are men kissing his ass and doing performative straight man homoerotic jokes. the only female lifter whose comments arent terrible is leanbeefpatty

#i stg the damage that was done by that one tiktok of a woman slightly overreacting when a guy stared at her in the gym #and now the entire male gym tiktok community is convinced that women falsely accusing gym creeps is an epidemic worse than ACTUAL CREEPS #i try so hard to separate internet comments from real life but those comments are left by real people #when im one of only 5 women in the gym at any given time it's hard not to worry that all these men are thinking these same things about me #i love the gym and in my experience men at the gym have been more respectful and chill than in the outside world but these comments #are just a reminder that men are misogynist as a result of societal conditioning and any one of them could be a violently misogynist one #choi talks

[bidisaster-peanut-romano]

Alright so, I need to know your thoughts on the possibility of Johnny's name coming from the song Johnny B. Goode by Chuck Berry. It's something that I personally think, but I wanted to share it with you to get your thoughts on it.

OH HEY YOU KNOW I ACTUALLY LOVE THIS??

i never made the connection before smh but you're absolutely right!!

i always assumed it came from marlon brando's character in the wild one, but i noticed in general that it was kind of a very popular.... "rock'n'roll name" you might say in the 50s and 60s? oh and maybe not only that but popular in those years in general - see also johnny in the outsiders (set in 1965), johnny get angry by joanie sommers (1962), and to put the examples we said before, johnny b goode from berry on top (1959) or the wild one (produced in 1953)

#i love this ure always SO ON POINT with all the little details!!! #like i know i said it before but i will keep saying it the greasers are a clique based on a subculture that has a HISTORY and they aas char #characters are built on that history as well. which is why i dont always like the headcanons that try and explain the rivalry bw greasers a #and preps- like they are nice obvsly and we can do what we want with the material but looking for facts to reason it kind of.... risks miss #missing the point?? bc the rivalry bw greasers and preps is kind of a projection of the class struggle of the adults yknow. like a whole t #thing of ideology- the sons of the working class and the sons of the nobility/old bourgeoisie (nouveau riche is a whole other thing that i #could write PARAGRAPHS on) and maybe they know the exact socioeconomic theory maybe not but they still belong to these two worlds that cann #cannot coexist pacifically in current conditions. and thats kind of the dynamic that has characterized the interactions bw greasers and the #upper classes kids- see the greasers and the socs in the outsiders but also slightly different. bc the socs are still middle class but with #the preps? were talking abt the children of centuries of landowners and tradesman and so forth of the east coast (and east coast is a relev #relevant detail here) #I RANTED AGAIN. one day ill talk about it specifically dont worry i have ranted too much for one time only lol #ty still for the ask!! its always so nice talking w you <3 #odyposts