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larnax · 5 months
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yeah i dont know about creator dibs or whatever maybe hbomb specifically didn't want his video to conflict with todd's but like it sucks that the most popular video does make it seem like james somerton's biggest sin is plaigarism when . as a little hater the fact that his writing is really bad because the way he plaigarizes means that his videos don't flow coherently and aren't very good DOES make me feel vindicated for thinking his videos suck but 100% there are fellow copyright haters who would see him in the same video as filip whose biggest sin was rewording an octopath traveler review(a crime worse than murder to Me but not on like moral grounds) who would walk away from it thinking that somerton is a bit of a dick and kinda misogynistic/transphobic in the way a lot of cis gay men are but like. whatever. and not know that he has repeatedly said that most nazis were gay men and made a whole video talking about how buff and hot they were and he has repeatedly talked about the devious chinese being the cause of disney's homophobia
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chaifootsteps · 2 months
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The Hellaverse/Vivziepop fandom is the perfect proof of why i hate the arguments of "oh there is no such thing as a toxic fandom! All fandoms are equally toxic! Its always a loud minoriy thats toxic and every fandom is actually nice!".
As someone who has been in multiple fandoms (including some of so called "one of the most toxic fandoms ever"), thats pure fucking bullshit told by lazy people who know that their favourite fandom sucks and they just wanna pretend that there is nothing that could be done about it.
There are fandoms that are healthier, paceful and more mature than others.
There are also fandoms that are more aggresive, rude and toxic also.
If it was true that "every fandom is equally toxic", then all fandoms would have the exact same dramas and polemics, thing that doesnt happens.
For example, not every fandom has multiple cases of people in it harrassing the voice actors, but the Genshin fandom does, thats why it is considered toxic.
Not all fandoms have cases of fans sending death threats to the creator of the show they like over ships, but the BNHA does, and it is considered a toxic fandom.
And not all fandoms have MULTIPLE cases of cyberbulling people for criticizing the show, attacking artist for doing redesigns (even if they didnt have any bad intentions), scaring people off the fandom, acusing people of Bigotry over liking or not liking certain characters, giving rape-apoligyst like speach to justify a shitty ship, making creppy arguments of how consent works to justify rape jokes from the show, gaslighting people into thinking they are bad people for not liking the show(s), invadilating SA victims for not liking how rape was threated in the show(s), defending terrible people just because they participate in the show they like, and even making someone take their life over shipping discourse because their cyberbullying was SO severe. Yet, the Hellaverse fandom does, and they get offended if we say that their fandom is toxic.
And also the thing "its just some bad apples! A loud toxic minority most people are nice!!!" Its also a dirty lie. Because in the Hellaverse fandom, being a terrible person (especially against anybody who dislikes the shows) is constantly encouraged and excused, not only by the fans but by the person they admire, and they will crucify you if you dare to point that out.
They always excuse themselves with "it isnt THAT bad, youre just a hater!", "well the antis makes us act this way!", "but the hatedom is just as bad!", all lame excuses that is so worrying to think that grown ass people are saying this.
Because yeah, your fandom IS toxic, and its a huge problem thats hurting many people, and it will never get better until you guys reconise that is not the fault of antis, haters or the "hatedom", its you, who are at least 70% of the fandom assholes.
Speaking as someone who's been in decades of fandoms, some wonderful and some downright nuts, the HH/HB fandom is easily the scariest and most hostile. I wish I could say I was surprised when we all learned that it had led to a real person's death, but a lot of people have been saying for years now that one way or another, someone was eventually going to get hurt.
The first step towards fixing anything that's gone wrong is to admit that there's a problem. Any member of Viv's fandom, from the fans to the SH higher-ups refusing to admit anything's wrong, isn't actually interested in keeping people safe.
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kexing · 6 months
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Its so wild to see how openly and aggressively people hate forcebook and their work. Iknow bl opinions are so varied but other than the odd 'this is not for me' i never really come across hate for pairings on here (maybe its different on twitter idk) so its so insane that when it comes to fb people just stop being considerate to fans or even look to bother them actively. there are some actors who get rightly criticized for awful behaviour but with fb it just seems like its the one pairing that people are allowed to shit on and thats why they do it? bc what's the worst they've done? not act the way you would want them to or take part in a show you didn't like?? why would people then focus so much on them rather than focus on the stuff they do like? its so baffling i truly wonder if its just 'playground join in with the bully' behaviour. sorry thats been on my mind as someone who only filters into bl every now and then, its so strange.
hi there!
RIGHT????? before them, i had never seen hate for pairings on this level. i knew about some problematic actors and pairings that had broken up so most people had moved on but actual gratuitous hate??? was unknown to me.
i used to think we all minded our business with our faves and everyone lived in peace. at least it was like that here on tumblr for my first years of bl. i do think twitter is different and probably worse, but the way their behavior has been poisoning tumblr as well is concerning.
truly. i don’t KNOW what’s with forcebook that people seem to enjoy hating on them. they’ve been on the public eye for nearly two years now, they have zero rumors, zero scandals, zero accusations, work hard, just do their thing, openly support the lgbtq+ community, all their coworkers like them, for fanfest in japan geminifourth, joong and phuwin went to force’s room in the middle of the night to hang out because their adore spending time with him, their previous directors adore them, p’film considers forcebook his actual children and p’new opens his arms for book to bear hug him whenever he sees him.
hell, even their old classmates from school came forward to say they were really nice people back then. that force was popular because he was friends with everyone and book was quiet but sweet.
when there’s actual deeply problematic actors out there. people who get accused of unspeakable things EVERY SINGLE DAY. and fans still defend them and give them 937482848384 chances.
it just doesn’t make sense to me. WHY would you be so obsessed with someone you don’t like? focus on your faves instead of complaining about other people just doing their job!!!!!!!!!!
i do usually call it “hate train” because it seems like everybody’s hopping on it just because it’s going around a lot.
but STILL. i see some criticism that’s just baffling. the way people will take forcebook’s words out of context and attack them with it, invent shit saying they’re nepotism babies (they are not). some even use forcebook’s friendship against them which is????? surreal. jobless behavior. go find a hobby or something else to do???? WHAT ARE YOU GAINING FROM ALL THIS?????
force and book are very open about their friendship and how it’s not perfect because they like being honest with us instead of painting a false image of their relationship, it’s not for people to turn it into weapons!! the disrespect is just so infuriating!
i’m not asking for everyone to start loving forcebook, just RESPECT THEM. or even ignore them. but don’t ruin things for them 😭😭😭 and us fans who are just trying to support them.
it’s okay! i wonder about the same things every single day. and i sincerely don’t know if i’m just too biased or something but i have never understood the amount of hate and still don’t because i would never do this to anyone. i never expected things to become like this.
but oh well :/
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anti-katsuki-lounge · 6 months
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yk, it kind of annoys me when people rag on shinso for "coasting through life with his quirk". like, there are plenty of other valid criticisms of his character in canon (though admittedly i love his fanon characterization a lot bc of my own biases) but that one always gets under my skin. because that's,,, something basically every canon character does? if you have a quirk, youre going to use it, and the metric for which people use to identify a character as "relying on their quirk too much" seem inconsistent at best. even our very own main character midoriya starts relying on his quirk for everything basically as soon as he can use it without hurting himself, and we stop getting those fun moments where he gets to show his intelligence and creativity nearly as often as theyre replaced with "who can punch harder" contests.
also people who claim shinso did no physical training before the entrance exam, or before aizawa picked him up. because as far as im aware,,, thats never stated in canon? i think people are assuming that if he did any physical training, he would've automatically gotten into the hero course, but that's just not true. even if he trained as hard as he physically could, its gonna be basically impossible for a 15 year old who doesnt have a quirk that gives them an advantage to win against enough robots to pass... which is the literal point of the test. and before anyone brings up hagakure or ojiro, ojiro has an extra limb which canonically helps with his destructive power (he uses his tail to destroy things his punches/kicks couldnt multiple times) and professional martial arts training that shinso clearly doesnt have based on how he flailed during his fight with midoriya, and hagakure is invisible so she can easily sneak up on the robots and take the time to find their weaknesses without being attacked. clear advantages.
and even if he did absolutely no combat training, that could easily be a result of the whole quirk-centric society brainwashing everyone that their quirk makes them who they are. that they have to rely on it, and use it as their guide on who/what to become. so the fact that people are so quick to chalk it up to stupidity and arrogance, when it could easily be just a teenager who isnt immune to propaganda being bitter (and admittedly cruel, like i said not a fan of his canon characterization) when he tries to do something good with his "evil" quirk and it doesnt work, or hell any number of hundreds of other explanations, annoys me a bit. (i realize this is probably coming off as more of an angry rant than im intending, but im not actually that upset about it, im just trying to communicate my thoughts clearly.) ultimately, i dont think we have enough info on shinso's character to decide things like that, you know? and i dont think its productive to just decide that one interpretation of the very limited information we have on his thoughts and actions is the canon one, and then bash/praise him for that interpretation.
i think that's also why tagging things as OOC isnt really done anymore unless its egregious, because there are so many interpretations of characters that are close enough to canon that that version of them can be argued, and a lot of times the person who holds that interpretation is truly convinced that version in their heads is canon, to the point that anyone saying it isnt is automatically deemed an idiot who can't read. so its easy to say "people should tag more things as OOC", but it takes a lot to be aware that how you read a character may not be what is actually displayed in the text or what the author intended, and a lot of people only think about how they read the story due to their own biases or creativeness or pet peeves, not the literal reading of the text. its especially hard in manga, when drawings of facial expressions can sometimes be argued to display a number of emotions, thoughts, etc.
and that one post where someone said that shinso would die immediately if he had to fight someone with a weapon, when he wasnt trained, and they were genetically physically immune to his quirk?? like, yeah, obviously??? so would anyone! these hypotheticals are meaningless, because you could easily say "well, what is hagakure had to fight someone with a gun who had heat vision on day one, she'd probably die" or any other random character and scenario. it means nothing, especially since shinso was actively training to get into a school where he would be trained to both use his quirk and what to do when he cant use it. just saying "well he wasnt good at fighting before he got in" is a terrible argument. i agree with a lot of the rest of the post, but that one part baffled and irritated me.
I think Hitoshi’s biggest flaw is that the world building around him sucks. Had he been shown to train and still failed and had we actually been showed that he’s been bullied, his anger would’ve been justified or at least understandable/sympathetic. Instead we have… nothing, which makes him seem like he’s throwing a temper tantrum and/or comes off as entitled. On paper, he’s not a bad character whatsoever, and the same goes for Shota. The main issue with both characters comes from how they’re executed and how they mesh with the world they’re in.
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stellaeviventem · 9 months
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Man fuck 🍉. truth be told I don’t feel sorry for 🍉 at all. Maybe I’m just not a very forgiving person but to me she’s just been let off easily. I can’t sympathize with someone who constantly Harasses their ex and current partner and encourages their friends to do this shit. The audacity to shit talk in your server with ur FANS and in the document allegedly stalk in someone else’s server is fucking crazy. But when people do the same to you, you run and hide and temporarily close the server??? All bark but no bite type shit. That bitch made 4 videos of their ex and was sneaking dissing all the time on her discord status and her streams🤣 and the ex she” hates” she’s drawing herself with and drawing herself in their clothes. Saying that she fell in love with the “old one🥺” weirdo ur ex was like 13 that time and ur 17. then made a doc claiming that her ex friend is a pedo and another steals shit and stuff, which wasn’t even true 😆.
Then she had the GUAL the AUDACITY to point out how one of the ex friends made NSFW in the past like SHE never did, like SHE didn’t have a whole tumblr page dedicated to it. This is one hypocritical ass bitch let me tell you that.
why haven’t most of her friends called her out previously? Why did none of them be like “hey guys, this is kinda a trash ass move we’re doing, let’s stop” but they were probably scared to ngl. I’d be scared too . Though if y’all really cared for her you guys would’ve wanted the best for her and told her to stop. At least that one friend wanted to try to get her into therapy and was scolding her.
Not to mention they lied about being fucking sexually assaulted…. Does 🍉 not know how hard it is for victims to be believed already???? How fucked up do you have to be to lie about something so fucking serious. Do you wanna ruin ur exs life that bad?? Your ex doesn’t even think about you anymore. Like how can I forgive someone who lied about being forced to do sexual acts.
‘But her mental health isn’t good rn’ bruh ur mental health will always explain ur behavior, but it will never fucking excuse the shit you have done.
she definitely wasn’t thinking about her ex’s mental health when she was making videos about them and shit talking about them. She wasn’t thinking of anyone’s mental health when her little whitenight dick eating friends went and attacked her ex’s current partner multiple times on their YouTube and even their tumblr. She wasn’t thinking about anyone’s mental health when making her private drama with her ex and ex friends public and dissing them in video descriptions and captions lollll.
This is another reason why kids shouldn’t live and breathe on the internet for so long until they’re adults. They end up being fucking weirdos who can’t think critically. The fact she isn’t even home schooled either, she just sits around all day on her computer screen for days on end since she was like what 12??? 🍉 if you’re reading this , which you aren’t, do us all a favor and get off the internet for a while, get some therapy too dude.
nothin to add to this because yeah thats pretty real
can i offer a gnola bar in these trying times?
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sneezemonster15 · 11 months
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Some people think they are being feminist by writing Sakura and Hinata out of character.
Fanfic writers being straight aside, I feel like there is a fear of being called mysogynist if the female characters are portrayed in any bad light so even queer writers write them ooc and it makes Sasuke and Naruto appear like assholes. Saw some writers tagging their fic "not for sakura or hinata fans" as if they are about to write the worst thing about those girls and its just those characters acting like they would in this specific situation.
Recently I saw some Sakura/SS stans tweeting about how writing fanfics where SNS cheat is problematic and disrespectful. As if gay people who have no choice but getting married to people they arent attracted to have any choice. Thats a real thing that happen irl and that doesnt make gay ppl assholes, just victims of society.
I have observed fandoms for a while and it feels like people use feminism as an excuse to dogpile on mlm shippers. They rarely (or never) call out mlf shippers who exhibit hatred for female characters they dont like.
Yes, that does seem to be the case.
Ever since I joined this fandom, I have felt whacked left and right by seeing what people understand by feminism and the way they regard homosexuality. It's like 20th century never happened. Like fandom was the last space I thought to be this backward, outdated and unwilling to learn.
I seriously doubt whether these SS and NH fans are adults. They don't sound like one. And if they are, I really don't know what kind of trauma they have been through or what kind of upbringing they have received to be this entitled, insensitive and violent. Like girl, chill. Or see a professional. Whatever works.
Yeah, I have heard that some writers write Sakura and Hinata as nice women because they are afraid of being called misogynists. Well. They need to learn to stand their ground. That would be their coming of age in the context lol. These ss and nh crazies would come after you no matter what you do, they don't have the capacity to be logical or discerning. You can't expect rationality or normal sensibilities from SS and NH stans, they are unhinged. No seriously, I am not kidding when I think some of them need to see a professional. Or get a credible confidante at least that can guide them properly. I am sorry but if they are the kind of people writers wanna please so as not to be attacked by them, they are living in fool's paradise. If those are the kind of people you set your bets off on, you are setting yourself up for failure. And wronging a lot of responsible and mature readers who decided to put their trust in you. Media is not an isolated medium, as its name suggests. You are accountable for what you put out there because it influences people, vulnerable, suggestible, impressionable, and naive people who would believe whatever is told to them. Especially in a fandom space that is populated by mainly very young people. Who aren't capable of introspection or critical evaluation. Spreading false ideas and all around ooc shit about Sakura and Hinata is not doing anyone a favor. Least to yourself, if you are serious about writing. Learn how to write your truth, learn how to be authentic. Develop your voice. This is your space to learn and evolve, stay true to yourself, and if you are pandering to stupid people, it's no one's fault but your own. Lol who gets paid for writing fanfics here? What is it or who is it that you represent huh? Who are you doing it for?
See the scope of damage you are causing by writing Sakura and Hinata as ooc, it has larger ramifications than just that. Recognize the kind of validation you give SS and NH stans by writing ooc shit, and how it backfires. You are encouraging misogyny, homophobia and heteronormativity yourself if you write them as ooc, plain and simple. The moment you write Sakura and Hinata as nice, empathetic characters, you are denigrating Naruto and Sasuke's characters and trivializing what they had to suffer through. Their world is a reflection of the real world, don't forget. If you write those two women as good, it's pretty clear you don't truly respect what queer communities have to go through in a conservative society, ie, if you consider yourself a person who puts your hand where your mouth is. Yes offence. Either you don't respect it or you don't get it but write dogshit anyway without doing any soul searching or research, neither of which is a comforting idea. And if you write it anyway because you just love the accolades so much, well shows your standards if you care for approval from strange people you have never seen, and who would fail spectacularly in the real world. Don't give anyone power over you who doesn't deserve it, least of all NH and SS stans. Respect yourself and gay narratives.
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onewomancitadel · 1 year
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It's been confirmed that a LOT of the writers for The Witcher actually Hated the show. The hated the franchise and the fandom. Thats the problem with a lot of modern stories really. The people writing them don't care and don't take the work seriously. You see it with shows like She-Hulk which is a horrendous take on the character that the writers admit they knew was terrible when they wrote it and only did it to attack the fans. Not write a good story. These people write out of hatred.
Thanks for your ask, but I am going to qualify that the source for the writers hating the show comes from an ex-writer who left the show, and we don't know how acrimonious (or not) the writers' room was. I'm not one to leap to conclusions but I do think if there's direct evidence (e.g. like the source I provided) of funny business it's worth criticising, because a commercial grab (and general trend of narrative cynicism) is a commercial grab.
I know absolutely nothing about S/he-Hulk because I refuse to pay any attention to M/arvel films or media because I don't have anything polite to say about them. It is frustrating that gender is used as a defense or attack on both sides about the show (I heard of that furore about it unfortunately) though because it obfuscates the actual issue at hand (which is the same with W/itcher to some degree because of Y/ennefer's and C/iri's storylines in the first season), so it makes it harder for everyone to have a real conversation about sincere (or insincere) storytelling. I don't like the implication that (me, especially as a onewomancitadel lol) I have to turn off my critic's hat for the sake of female representation which isn't truly actually radical or interesting at all. (Frankly I don't think M/arvel is all that good on representation front anyway but that's neither here nor there because ultimately I think the foundation of the universe is creatively defunct and offers absolutely no transformation or change or coherent ideas and add in the military propaganda and you have issues.). The masculinist storytelling of True Detective's Season 1 might be offputting to some (though I think particular to that it's not men as the default, just exploration of men), in its philosophy and ultimate thematic catharsis it aligns with things I think are truly interesting and moving.
Then again I'm also somewhat of a problem because I take issue with the idea women only entered visible storytelling in the past few years and this is either a really good thing or a really bad thing depending on whom you ask, because it's just ignorant of worldwide storytelling in general and ignorant of a lot of recent literary and cinematic history. (Certainly I'll allow that much of the discussion takes place in popular culture). But it's like I've written before about fairytales in R/WBY: R/WBY is not, at least in my opinion, making fairytales feminist in whatever fashion by making Salem the protagonist of her own Lost Fable: if it's aberrant, it's aberrant to modern storytelling, but it's certainly not aberrant to feminine storytelling in fairytales historically.
If I've trod on any toes here with anything I've said: I want diverse and interesting and radical storytelling and storytelling to be meritocratic (not in the dickhead sense, in the actual sense of valuing storytelling as an art) and actually about, you know, contributing to something meaningful. I also don't want to be condescended to about gender. Or some idiot with a silver spoon in their mouth telling me ackshually their story about killing bad guys (that you would be stupid to feel compassion for) is radical and transformative because a girl is doing it instead. (:
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I don't even think hating/loving the source material is necessarily the issue at hand. You can claim to or act like you love the source material but it doesn't make you a good storyteller (is every old fanfic off the block all that good? Even if it comes from a labour of love? Though probably more sincere than what gets put out for some media lol).
Respect is a little bit of a different question, and so is understanding the thematic thrust of a work and what makes it what it is. Adaptation is really different from writing an original work too, because it's putting you in the interpretive role, which is a different skill that needs developing. I'm sure that it must already be hard because ego is so involved. There's a sense of ownership you want to assert over a story, and that can complicate things. I'm sure you can think of many examples of this where it proves to be too much.
So, I think there's something even more damning here than hatred, because at least that would be passionate: I think it's cynicism (there are lot of nepobabies who don't believe in the art of writing in the industry) and commercialised storytelling (art as content and that asks you to consume more content). I can't really speak to what the personal opinions of the storytellers are but I can certainly analyse their methodology. Though if you do put stock in what the ex-writer said and what an ex-director said, apparently they do actually dislike the source material. Lol. That's one part of it imo and it's part of a much more damning and $$$ driven cycle. To be fair in regards to The W/itcher, genre fiction has always had a bit of bias against it: not real or serious literature to worry about. Then again I doubt these people read very much either. That is a real motivator though and it contributed to the downfall of another major political-fantasy show because it effectively broke the ending.
I think what's demoralising is that you can have successful media (and successful and accessible pop culture) that is smart and respectful. Thoughtful writing heightens spectacle. Thoughtful adaptation can amplify the original material. Thoughtful narrative twists and character development make people talk. Just look at what proved popular in H/OTD: the scene that carried cultural transaction and weight was D/aemon helping his sick brother-king up the stairs and crowning him after his crown fell. That was character- and emotion-driven. It was smart. (Also improvised).
Then again, bigwigs who care about none of this - not the writers and not the actors and not us - have ever-hungry pockets with unrealistic expectations of the next G/OT and think that the average person is stupid and you can just emulate G/OT's fame via bruteforcing the spectacle of extreme violence and sex and maybe dragons or something.
The only conclusion I can draw is that writing is not taken seriously as an art and is secondary to everything else that production pours its money into. It seems like a banal conclusion but it seems like the only one. It's coupled with cynicism. It's a disrespect for the actual talent needed to write well (because nepobabies and networking, seriously if you think I'm making it up, do websearches on the writers of most of these shows and you'll see that they trip upwards. There is a certain show that I shan't mention by name because none of you can force me to and they basically got their shoe in the door with recommendation of J. J. Abrams himself). I mean, I've encountered enough people who think that basic things I talk about (foreshadowing, setup and payoff, thematic consistency, blah blah blah) are too complicated and no story would use that and you're overthinking it. There's a cycle of cultivated ignorance and disrespect for writing. I think that is largely related to a growing resentment of art as an industry and the general sense you can just automate that stuff I guess? What's the point in writers? Just throw in a few twists and quips, that will keep people happy.
So it's probably even worse than you think. Enjoy!
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iftadwascool · 2 years
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Wait why is wil wheaton your parasocial enemy
because hes the worst.
all he does is cry "oh woe is me" everytime he makes a mistake. he still thinks people hate him just because he was Wesley Crusher. he has this weird martyr complex where he thinks everyone is out to get him. which i fully get, people were real assholes to him as a teenager when TNG was airing, but that was 30 years ago. he needs to let it go because hes an adult now, learn some coping proper mechanism. he also this tendency to be Alpha Nerd™ which makes him super unlikeable.
when he used to be popular on Twitter he used to brag about how many people he blocked. like, thats such a weird thing to brag about. he would insist on sharing his block list with other internet personalities and famous people. which actually caused a huge stir because of how many he would arbitrarily block. i remember a former social media manager talked about having to remove it because they themselves was blocked from a lot of the people they worked for.
Wheaton is so reliant on social media he hops from one to an other after hes "ran off." you see it on tumblr right now with him posting screenshots of Tumblr posts from reddit without linking to the original. he doesnt even have to link to the original post, just the persons page would suffice. if you criticize him for anything he just shuts down and makes a big deal about being attacked trying to deflect the blame. you should see his webpage, if he even still updates it. he complains on there so much because he personally controls the comments.
it really sucks because i used to be a big fan of his. i liked Wesley Crusher a lot as a kid. when he made his big come back in the mid 2000's i was 17-18 and would read his blog every day. learning cool new nerds stuff. found online comics i still kind of enjoy today. i have a love/hate relationship with Questionable Content, but it'll always be the first webcomic i read and still read. its just in the last 10 years ive unfortunately saw who he really was. a sad guy trying to keep his star power alive and the only way he knows how is to turn into the people who hated him on TNG.
for the guy who made the phrase "Dont Be A Dick" really popular online, he really doesnt live up to it.
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greenmach1neworks · 1 year
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Hi there, I just saw your post about Lilith Fairen. Just wanted to let you know, just in case you didn't, that she's also active here on Tumblr as well, so you can block her here too. She has also invalidated me as an autistic person for the same exact reason and I've seen her do it to othrr people too, and she's also invalidated tons of people as queer people and woman, and she's also been violently racist and antisemitic in the fndm since arriving here a year ago (very recently she even used the G slur and has been shrieking about "being harassed" every time someone brings it up or asks her to apologize.) And yes she's also been violently ableist (a few months back one of her most loyal supporters said that Ironwood's prosthetics were good enough that they made him 'able bodied' so he did not count as disabled and then when people pointed out he would die without them he said that made it a 'quality of life' issue and he should just die, and Lilith Fairen defended him hard-core and attacked a bunch of disabled people for "making a big deal out of nothing" and for "pretending someone is ableist to cancel them" because we're apparently all "misogynistic" because ableism only counts to her if it's about someone with a vagina (oh yeah she's also a rabid radfem who constantly attackes bi people, ace people, trans people, and nonbinary people and accuses them of being cishet men lying about their identities so they can cancel rwby for being more progressive than them, or if she does admit that they are queer she calls them the "bad kinds" of queer people and incites hate against them by accusing them of self-internalized bigotry so they can cancel rwby for being more progressive than them, and she uses her status as lesbian to claim Supreme queerness and attack people she considers "less queer" or "less female" than her. She also jumps onto every single post about any issue anyone has with rooster teeths bigotry and randomly tries to turn it into a genitals thing, like when there was a post about how racist it is that one of the only dark-skinned main characters (oscar) was brutally tortured onscreen and the DVD commentary had the white creators being VERY excited and gleeful about it, when the camera has to cut away whenever a white character gets hurt, Lilith showed up screaming that everybody was "misogynistic" because I guess she thinks that torturing characters of color is okay as long as they have a penis. Thats also her favorite excuse whenever anyone talks about the blatant and horrifying ableism in ironwoods fall. Nobody can say a single solitary thing about how ableist it is to turn a triple amputee into a villain and blame it on their ptsd and give them a scary grimm prosthetic and make them use that prosthetic to do their evil crimes and and give them a "hyperfixation" semblance that makes it "easier for them to be evil" and say out loud in the dvd commentary that losing a limb is symbolic of losing humanity, without Lilith Fairen showing up to shriek that he has a penis so that means it's "misogynistic" to criticize the able-bodied cishet white men who wrote the story that way
She's been harassing and abusing rwde posters here on Tumblr since at least September, and has stated multiple times that every single person who says so much as a stray negative word about Rooster Teeth is a "misogynistic homophobe" and that we're just "making up lies" because we "hate rwby for being progressive" and we want to "cancel uwu rooster teeth," and yes she has included Calxiyn and Murder of Birds in that group lmao despite them famously being some of the shows biggest fans, and she specifically accused Murder of Birds of "not understanding oppression" because he said that Rooster Teeth should have told the people who bought digital tickets to RTX that they decided to cancel digital tickets, and asked if they would be refunded, and I guess she thinks that makes him misogynistic.
Oh and idk if you know who canonseeker is, but he and Lilith were really buddy-buddy for awhile and she defended him hard-core despite (or maybe because of) his violent antisemitism, but now she pretends she barely ever interacted with him idk what the last straw was lol but yeah. Oh and she goes on constant deleting sprees after each REALLY bad scandal, to make sure nobody has solid proof of her actions, like she had a side blog that was openly and braggingly themed around cyberstalking and harassing rwde posters who had blocked her, but she deleted it because of all the antisemitism on it, and then she also went through a month or so ago and deleted every single post she had ever made on her main account and started over with a "clean" slate after all the ableism stuff I mentioned (she also claims now that she barely interacted with her buddy that she hard-core defended in that situation too.) I've been told that deleting her accounts is something she's been doing for years, long before she came to rwby, for this exact reason.
Because yeah apparently she does this to all her fandoms, and when she first showed up here, she came with tons of warnings from people who knew her from other things. She's obsessed with hating Madoka Magica and she viciously attacks people over it all the time (even if they had never seen or heard of it before) and she's been banned from a ton of magical girl subreddits because of it. And when she first came to the rwby fndm, she constantly posted boastfully about how she at the time had never even watched rwby, but said that she googled it so I guess that made her think she was the Supreme authority on it, and she also openly bragged that she had come to rwby because she found out that somebody she hates over magical girl reasons happened to also be critical of rwby so she decided to punish everybody who is critical of rwby as a result (which is why she's so hypocritical in that she will say something like "it is not wrong to criticize media created by cishet men" about madoka magica but then start screaming that everybody is "misogynist" if they criticize media created by cishet men if it's rwby.) She has also openly bragged that she intentionally attacks rwde posters because she craves the attention she gets, both from rwde posters who respond to her attacks, and from her radfem followers that applaud her for it, and she also has a habit of whining to her own followers about how mad she is that they don't give any attention to her non-rwby posts and how that's why she does this to begin with, is to get more attention. She does not actually care about rwby, she literally has openly spelled it out a hundred times that she came here to bully people to punish someone she hates because she's obsessed with Madoka and she stays because she found out she gets likes and praise every time she attacks a marginalized viewer in defense of the cishet white men who make the show.
Anyway I recommend you don't actually answer or publish this ask, because even if you DO block her she has unknown sock-puppet accounts and flying monkeys everywhere so that she can evade the numerous blocks people have against her (which she openly brags about doing) and incites hate against every single person who so much as points out that she's harassing them (which is I guess her only definition of 'harassment,' is "saying that lilith fairen harassed you") and I don't want to paint an even bigger target on your back with this ask. Just wanted to warn you that yeah this is a HUGE problem and she will definitely find you and attack you and probably send you a ton of anon hate and she'll screen shot your posts and spread vicious lies about you and make fun of you to her followers and send them to give you anon hate as well. That's basically her entire identity at this point so heads up, it's coming. :/
Thanks I'll keep a heads up.
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absolutely wow is filled with all kinds of colonialism against all kinds of races. but why do you need blizzard to directly say that it’s bad? i doubt anyone at blizz is a fan of colonialism, and just because it’s put in the story and lore, doesn’t mean they condone it at all. it’s up to the player to see the wrongdoings of the character’s and races throughout warcraft lore. unfortunately, it’s hard to create conflicts without using something like ethnic/racial hatred, the blind desire for power, or any other horrible thing that motivates war/conflict. in MoP there’s a quest where a panda directly calls the horde vs alliance conflict a ‘race-war’ which is a totally legitimate stance an outsider may have on their (our) war. it’s all a matter of perspective. it’s all a matter of culture. there’s no objective right or wrong values, that the alliance should change their ways because their values don’t fall in line with yours is silly. it’s fiction. fiction is great at letting us explore these horrible themes without actually harming anyone. i don’t want fiction to turn into a place where we can’t talk about anything controversial, because people will believe that creator of said fiction actually condones whatever controversial topic they’ve chosen to comment on. this is quite long and i’m sorry about that.
obviously people should use their critical thinking skills when consuming any media. i just meant a lot of their storylines are based on real world historical precedent thats had horrific consequences and they don’t depict it like that. they often depict colonialism as a both-sides conflict or as a net good considering the alliance is always right. a lot of media especially that made in imperial nations does this and should be criticized imo cause portraying it as a both sides issue actively erases the damage settler colonialism does .
for example, look at the drustvar storyline. the drust and their leader violently resisting occupation are framed as irredeemably evil, because they attacked the kul tiran settlers first (framing settling as a neutral act rather than an aggressive one), and where Lucille Waycrest openly revives the witch-hunting practices of her colonial ancestors to hunt down the remaining drust, all of which is framed by the narrative as a good and cool, because you’re killing monsters who deserve to be attacked because somehow they “started it”. it frames that colonialism as totally fine. no one in the narrative disputes it, and we don’t hear from the drust except as a monolith of scary monsters. unless the player is going out of their way to recognize and condemn media that promotes settler colonialism, they’re not going to think anything else. how would this make them think about real-world instances of colonialism? are they likely to view settling as wrong and violent, or neutral and inevitable?
there’s no nuance to it so it in fact is not up to the player to see when things are wrong when the narrative is directly communicating the opposite or just doing a really bad job of communicating anything at all. also, you can criticize media, and if it’s up to the player this is literally MY blog
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hey! how knowledgeable are you on stephanie brown? because i got in a bit of an argument with a dc fan on reddit who claims she's all these awful things, but im still relatively new to steph and i want to see what was true and what wasn't. link to screenie right here: https://ibb.co/vh6CYCJ
these may be matters of opinion, but even then, i'd like to know your take. i haven't read her firsthand often enough and i trust your judgement over this random redditor who seems to have some sort of blonde-woman related trauma left untapped.
I'm not necessarily the most knowledgable on her in the world, but I do know a decent amount because she's one of my absolute faves and I love her
But ohhhh boy that screenshot is a lot.
I will say that several of the things this person brings up are based in canon but are taken in the worst faith and framed in the way that makes her look as bad as possible, if that makes sense? It’s ripping things away from any context, because there's a very clear bias against her here.
I'll go through it point by point under the cut
First of all though before digging into this, I want to make it clear she was a 15 year old for the majority of the things this person is talking about. Like just pause for a second and remember she’s a 15 year old victim of abuse. That is something that I think factors into a lot of her behavior! Anyways, I kinda while doing this got into a ranty 'talking at you' format in response to the person who wrote all that, so don't take any of this as me yelling at you who asked the question/you anyone reading this.
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"She always acted entitled" - Saying Steph is entitled is absolutely ridiculous to me. Stephanie grew up with a very unstable childhood due to her dad frequently being in prison and her mom dealing with a drug addiction, living in a lower class part of the city. Tim is entitled. I don’t mean that as like a bad thing about him, but he is based on his living situation, she is not. She has wanted life to be better for herself and her mom, and is determined about that, but she is not and does not act entitled.
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(Secret Origins 80 Page Giant)
"and stubborn" - I will give you stubborn though, that one is true. She’s stubborn as hell! I don’t really see that as a bad thing though, pretty much every bat is stubborn?
"demanding that Batman and Robin accept her untrained ass" - Steph may have been untrained in fighting but she's shown to have exceptional gymnastics skills from the start, and at one point Bruce even says that with the right training she could be as good if not better than Tim (in Robin #88)! So like... her realizing she enjoys trying to be a hero after she tried it out to deal with her personal business, so she looks to the local experts… and is determined about it… how is that a bad thing? It’s also not like she walked up to them and said ‘im perfect as i am let me in’ what she wanted was a chance to be a hero. But she also wasn't even really looking for approval, either, not having Batman's blessing was never going to stop her. ("So excuse me if I don't jump when you bark, Batman." in Robin #16) Later when Bruce does bring her in to train (and she also gets to train with the BoP) she's excited! She’s stubborn about wanting to be in the hero business, but it’s not like she’s unwilling to work for it.
"advocating leaving criminals to die because they 'deserve it'" - She’s a 15 year old who grew up knowing firsthand how dangerous Gotham criminals can be because of her dad, of course off the bat when they’re in a dangerous situation where any of them could die (because that’s the context here, this is in Robin #35 where they’re trapped in some super dangerous snow) she thinks they shouldn’t go back for another criminal who just tried to kill them and should instead save themselves. But she also literally WITHIN THAT SAME ISSUE then says she realized she learned something after listening to Tim and trying to save the guy! In the same issue! Characters in a story aren’t supposed to be perfect from the start… they learn things along the way???
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"trying to steal from the shops they just stopped from being burglarized" - She’s 15 and doesn’t have a ton of money. She was gonna take two sodas, and when Tim said not to do it she paid with very little fuss. They stopped people who were robbing the place at gunpoint for prescription drugs. If you can’t understand the difference in severity between those things like… I do not even know where to start. (this situation is in Robin #56 btw)
"forcing physical affection onto Tim despite his visible discomfort and repeated objections (not even stopping when he told her he had a girlfriend)" - This one I will give you because she did cross boundaries with all that! But I do also want to clarify that she didn't start coming onto him until after Tim kissed her first (in Robin #5) while not telling her he had a girlfriend. That doesn’t excuse her later actions but for the first issue that she’s coming onto him from her perspective he expressed interest and she was just returning it! She even specifically says 'Maybe I should pay you back for saving my life the same way you paid me' (in Robin #16) before kissing him. That first time she kissed him unprompted was under essentially the same circumstances he kissed her unprompted, and she literally did not know about Ariana until after the fact. From that point once she knew about Ari she definitely should have backed off and she didn’t, that’s a very fair thing to criticize about her as a character. But Tim lead her on first, and I feel a lot of people like to casually forget that when talking about this situation. The way this is phrased of ‘not even stopping when he told her-‘ implies she was repeatedly doing the bad behavior before he told her, which is not the case. She still did bad things here but don’t misrepresent the situation.
"And lashing out at Tim, her mother, and her classmates in violent fits of anger" - Every comic book character lashes out at other people for the sake of drama like, I dare you to come up with a well-known superhero character who hasn’t done shit like that to a partner/family/friends in a moment of high tension/stress?
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"She treated the girls around her like they were stupid bitches" - frankly this ones a little too vague like, I'm not sure off the top of my head exactly what they're talking about? in that era right around her pregnancy and stuff I really don't recall her being mean with other girls? I could be forgetting something I guess but the closest I can think of is a bit after this period of time when she has the confrontation with Greta in Young Justice but that was Greta attacking her first, not the other way around.
"got insanely jealous if Tim so much as expressed concern about another girl" - Steph getting jealous and thinking Tim was cheating isn’t that crazy when STEPHANIE BASICALLY WAS THE OTHER GIRL DURING TIM’S LAST RELATIONSHIP? Tim has cheated a little bit before! Tim cheated on Ari with both Jubilee from Marvel (during a crossover thing where he even mentions Ari specifically so it’s not like this was out of continuity/a setting she wasn't an issue or something) and also with Steph. While most of the kissing between them was Steph coming onto Tim which I wouldn’t count as cheating on his end, he did still kiss her which I would count. Not to mention that the jealousy thing (I imagine they’re talking about the instance with Star, the girl who taught Tim to skateboard, this arc of stuff starts in Robin #80 and continues for a few issues) is happening during the time she’s dating him while she still doesn’t even know his real name. He literally has a whole other life she doesn’t know about, and is someone who has initiated romantic moments with other girls while in a relationship multiple times before! With that in mind I don’t think a 16 (she's def 16 by this point) year old girl being kinda paranoid about how he interacts with girls he might know in his civilian life is that unreasonable? The later big instance with jealousy is the Darla situation- where Steph sees Darla kiss him and gets mad about it (and doesn’t talk to him about it) and thats what prompts her to become Robin. The important thing to remember about Steph in this time frame is that DC decided she had to die and they wanted to make her Robin first to drum up more attention for that death. They were doing ooc things with her to set those pieces in motion, and that needs to be taken into account. I think her getting upset about seeing something like that isn’t even ooc, but her using it as motivation to become Robin and not even saying anything to him about it is. In the earlier instance where she’s upset/jealous about Star, she does communicate to him what’s going on at least a little bit on the rooftop after they’d saved her. She makes it clear the thing she was upset about is that she feels like she can’t trust him because she doesn’t really know him while he knows everything about her, and that’s why she thinks he’s cheating. Her reaction to the Darla thing is not in line with how earlier in canon Steph would have handled the same situation, because they wanted her to die and needed a way to explain her becoming Robin.
"and expressed that jealousy by accusing him of cheating and throwing things at him" - I just addressed the cheating stuff but the throwing things was fucking slapstick oh my god this is a comic book for kids/teens like. ah yes this is horrible abuse in this little funny montage of how Steph wants him to leave her alone because she’s mad at him and he refuses to give her space
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I don’t think anyone at DC or even in fandom would/should try to argue she’s perfect, because she’s not! And I don’t want her to be because perfect characters are boring. Steph is flawed, Steph has been compared in canon to Robin-era Jason by Cass & Bruce
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And I think these highlight some of her very real flaws that are an interesting part of her character. These plus her stubbornness and determination are part of what makes her her.
And for fuck's sake the world was mean to her, and to act like it wasn’t is just blatantly ignoring a lot. A criminal father who made her life really difficult (‘when my dad was mad at me he’d lock me in the closet!’), that time she got kidnapped for two weeks and her mom had left her (a 15 year old) alone at home so long she didn't even find out it happened (in text Steph says Crystal was visiting friends, a lot of people interpret that as her mom possibly being in rehab for her addictions again), that whole thing about how one of her dad’s friends tried to sexually assault her as a child, also just how due to her dad's work sometimes criminals would be living in their house (Literally the fucking Riddler at one point!), the fact that we as an audience watched her get tortured for several days because a plan she tried to enact to prove herself backfired since Batman didn’t trust her with important information (something Selina even calls him out on in her internal narration), like… sorry but in what way is all that not the world being mean to her?
She was Robin, she dated Robin, she likes Eggplant (because purple would've looked stupid), and makes jokes. She’s also impulsive, headstrong and determined, and wants to prove to herself and others that she can be more than just the daughter of a shitty criminal, that she can actually be a force to do good in the world.
She’s a complex character, and nobody is required to like her, but to act like she doesn’t have a single redeeming trait is ridiculous. You could write a paragraph like that with the worst moments of basically any character and make them look like shit if that's what you were setting out to do.
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Hi is the Omar-Edvin PR anon. Please know this not an attack and I want and adore Omar- Edvin friendship to exist as much as the next person but I also think we need to be critical of it is potrayed too. I agree they seem to care about each other and genuinely like each other, no denying that. However, after they realised how much us fans love it, I am left to question their each interaction as something genuine or done to pander to the fans (to certain extent) because they know we love it. Especially now since they have blown up and have a second season - they NEED to show they have a good rapport because it sells the show too.
As for the Hillershka Choir thing, I feel Netflix placed Edvin specifically seperate from rest of the cast members ( you can see in the video they are all on sidelines as Omar walks in and does his little wave) before his performance that they could capture the iconic hug as promo material. Very tiny example of how such things are orchestrated for consumption.
For them being friends with each others friends. Well, Joel ( Omar's best friend) knew Edvin from before. They have liked and commented on each others posts from 2018 and I think Wilma ( Edvin's best friend) was already friends with Hugo ( another of Omar's friends) so it would be easy mix if you have a few common friends. As well Felicia who was on YR too.
They do seem to have chemistry but that wouldn't depend on their offscreen relationship. Sara (IC) talked about how easy it is if co stars have chemistry but she emphasis that as professionals their job is make it happen on screen if it doesn't exist. We do know a lot of examples of actors who had great onscreen chemistry but didn't really like each other that well off screen.
Anyway, we can speculate only the both of them know the truth and I hope they are good friends and remain so cause their interactions are comforting and make me happy. But I also want to make sure, that we as Fandom don't demand it ( as Twitter/insta stans do) so much so that they have to pander or put every time they are together because I feel their friendship will not remain authentic or have space to grow deeper if the Fandom attitude continues.
I don't know if I explained it properly but thank you for reading this.
of course i understand, thank you for sharing! i agree with you on that extent - that they definitely are close and genuine but it is beneficial for promotion to show their friendship. and that some of it done for the benefit of promotion. ok so this got so long im sorry, i'll put the rest of my response under read more ...
i don't think we need to question every interaction though - even if they've been told to play it up for pr, that doesn't necessarily mean the interaction is not genuine? i mean it's not like netflix told edvin hey find an art piece that looks like omar at the art gallery in berlin and take a picture? they still don't tell them exactly what to post or say you know. because they are close friends, their interactions can still be genuine even if encouraged for pr.
oh 100%, i agree with you about the Hillerska choir thing. I mean that was obviously professionally filmed for the audience. ok im gonna embarrass myself here and say i didn't even notice the other cast members even though i've watched that performance multiple times. i do still think edvin was very genuinely excited about the performance though. also omar has shared his unreleased songs with edvin :')
oh thats so random how edvin knew joel from before and wilma knew hugo? do you have any more info about that? from what i knew i thought they didn't really have common circles, yk since omar was always in the music world and edvin in the acting world? I don't think that edvin and joel were close though - otherwise edvin and omar would've known each other before YR?
alsoooo there is nurbo and edvin - they both comment on each other's posts - what benefit for PR is it for omar's random friend (srry nurbo 😅) to comment on edvin's photos?
i get your POV on chemistry, but i still think that their chemistry is part of what made wilhelm x simon's chemistry come across so special. like Sara said - they can still make it happen on screen, but i don't think it would have been as special. i feel the same way about kurt and blaine on glee - they wouldn't have come across so well if chris colfer and darren criss didn't have wonderful chemistry together.
i love your last point so much! i think as a fandom, as much as we enjoy and love their friendship, we shouldn't put pressure and expectations on it, or idealise it too much. people are always talking about how it's not right to ship them because it could ruin their friendship, but we don't seem to realise that being overly involved in their platonic relationship could also potentially be harmful...
thank you for your message! <3
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As a person who didn't enjoy the ending, here is my take: if we look at chapter 139 alone, with no prior context or knowledge of the story, then yeah the chapter is great. But knowing that the entire aot was literally a commentary on real-life stuff, like war, corruption etc, the entire "Let's forgive Eren, even though he started a genocide and we were against every single of his actions like 2 chapters ago, but he did this for ussssss so he is for sure a good guy" kinda iffy.
I don't even wanna talk about the entire smiling titan/ Carla fiasco, because this entire thing was so unnecessary for the plot?? Like, this is the final chapter, why are you creating a fucking plot hole?? This entire detail made Eren a much more unlikable character than before, in my opinion. AND I LIKE EREN.
As a conclusion: for me, it felt like 138 chapters of world building and character development were thrown out of the window so we could get some sort of a happy ending. I feel like a tragic ending would have been much more satisfying, maybe if all of the titans (by that I mean their human bodies) had died as well?
With that said, constructive criticism is always a good thing, but I've been seeing way too many "fans" attacking Isayama directly. This may not be your ideal ending, it's not mine either, but it's his. And that is ultimately the only ending that matters, so take it or leave it ig?
hey, im glad you were nice abt expressing ur opinion hehe, i appreciate that a lot
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i actually think it’s the exact opposite, when you look at every chapter in addition to 139 it’s a great chapter because everything clicks, eren’s motive, the way he acted, mikasa, armin, everything in between.
i explain the whole “let’s forgive eren” thing here if you wanna read that!
an excerpt from what i said was that; 
“armin (and everyone) thanks eren for doing what he did to free them. not thanking eren for for mass murder period. it’s because of eren that the curse is lifted and that they are free and that’s what armin’s thanking eren for. mass murder is inexcusable, and eren knows that. that’s why after he panics and goes “but i dont want to die!” he comes to a realization that all the people he killed didn’t want to either, that the only way to atone for his sins is by dying himself. even if he didn’t die he would’ve probably been executed, or imprisoned for the rest of the life. just like in mikasa’s ova, “eren’s death is inevitable, no matter what reality you go to eren will always die because he carries death within himself.”
in another translation of the chapter armin thanks eren for being the bad guy so that they could win. he knows what eren did was bad. he’s not excusing it, he just understands why eren had to do it and that eren had no choice if he wanted them to be free.
from the get go freedom was one of the themes of eren’s character. if eren lived the whole entire world would be ruins and eren would’ve been even sadder than now, there would be nobody and it would’ve been worse than it is now. eren killing everyone was definitely not the ending to go. the ending we have could’ve been executed differently, sure, but in my eyes since i get the gist i think isa did an amazing job portraying what he had in mind.”
they were against his actions because they didn’t understand them, since eren spoke to all of them through paths, yes even the rest of the alliance, the same way he spoke to mikasa in 138— we just only got a glimpse of mikasa and armin’s talk bc they’re the main characters alongside eren in a sense
and i explain the carla thing in this post, and here’s an excerpt from that!
“one thing about isa’s writing style is that nothing is ever handed to you, everything is foreshadowed and you use context clues. it’s actually a pretty common style of writing— you give your reader 2+2, not 4. he mentioned it because you should’ve understood that part— eren sent the smiling titan to eat his mom because in the scene when the smiling titan had went into the walls the first person it should’ve ate was bertholdt. bertholdt was on the ground when the smiling titan had walked passed him— and usually titans are supposed to eat any human they encounter in hopes of finding a titan shifter to revert them. if the smiling titan had ate bertholdt it would’ve disrupted the path that ymir laid out for eren, messed up future events and the ending of aot wouldn’t have turned out like the ending of aot (with eren freeing his friends and breaking the curse of ymir), so he had to keep the smiling titan moving forward and his mom happened to be the next human she encountered, therefore his mom had to get eaten instead.
season 4 episode 3 
in chapter 139 eren says “it wasn’t bertholdt’s time to die yet.””
i can see why you would want a more tragic ending, i understand how it can feel like everything that happened was thrown away— carrying on such a tragic story you’d probably expect a tragic ending. however i will say isayama did mention years ago that’d the ending would be bittersweet and he delivered that, as well as the fact that in my opinion everything kind of led up to these events; isa gives you hints throughout the whole entire show, and those hints is exactly how i figured that 1) eren would die (i knew after watch mikasa’s ova that he’d die for sure) and 2) that the rumbling wasn’t eren’s real plan and that s4 eren wasn’t only a facade, but yeah i respect your opinion as well and ty for expressing it so well <333
and i totally agree ab the constructive critiscm part!! a lot of “fans” are doing to much on isayama and being pure disrespectful. it’s pretty disgusting to see, thats why i really appreciate the way you presented how you felt, it was respectful and in a well manner— you’re awesome for that.
and right, it doesn’t matter how we wanted it to end, it’s the ending he gave to us and regardless of if we like it or not that’s not gonna change the ending— so like you said, take it or leave it!
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littlefoxwithbighat · 3 years
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Hi! This is talking about the plot of the dream smp in a meta sense and its a bit negative. The person behind this blog wants to remind you that you can skip if it's not for you and they still love the SMP. :)
ALL DISCUSSION IS ABOUT CHARACTERS. DON'T ATTACK CCS OR I WILL STEAL YOUR KNEECAPS.
I can't lie; I'm really annoyed and worried at the way the writers are handling Tommys character at the moment, and am increasingly concerned about it messing up the plot.
I wasn't very happy with the finale. I don't think that means all is lost, I think they can pull it back but it's going to take some work. I was worried about the way that things were handled before but the green festival was actually very well handled, so my worries were mostly assuaged. But yesterday? I don't know.
The fact nobody lost a cannon death is kind of disappointing. The weight of blowing up an entire city/ (country?) brutally is somewhat lost if there is no human loss. Nobody was hurt physically and the only people this had a big mental impact on was Tommy and Tubbo, everyone else wasn't very attached to L'manburg or had gone rogue, or were detatched from the while situation. And maybe it's the fact it's happened to them before or that they still have each other or that it seems odd/ frustrating that they still care so much about this place or that it was always a losing battle and they knew it, but I dont find myself really pitying them like I probably should. And I think that comes down to character growth or lack thereof, which I'll discuss later.
Niki and Fundy have started a villain arc, or at least a violent nihilism arc, and I actually don't mind it, in fact I'm a fan but it wasnt really foreshadowed, or really just showing them cracking as much as it should have been. I would guess this has mostly been started for both of them to tie Niki into the plot and I can't blame her for wanting that. Fundys acting is very good, and I REALLY hope the writers handle this well. For Fundy, regarding the fact that his father is going to be resurrected and that Fundy is following in his footsteps... If the writers don't realise that connection and make this a big step in Fundys narrative I will scream. Also Funboo bros are very interesting character foils and I hope their relationship is maintained so that they can play of off each other and also man I just really want them to keep being friends, it's a generally positive healthy relationship that makes both characters sympathetic and we need that right now. As for Niki, her character motivations seem to be mostly centered around Tommy and on the one hand I'm like ehhhh, because Tommy's character already gets a disproportionate amount of attention in terms of narrative, and I get it, but recently he's been a bit TOO much of the protagonist for a multi-person POV improve server... and I'm apprehensive. However on the other hand this has potential for a nice confrontation between Tommy and Niki. If that happens I want Tommy to be aware that this is going to happen and not talk over Niki, and I don't want it to be brushed over. I think it would be best if it was just the two of them. This also gives a nice chance for Tommy to examine his trauma with Dream and explain his motivations and Niki to get her anger out. I also want it to end positively, because it absolutely can and lack of communication when the viewer knows how to fix it is OK as a plot device sometimes but incredibly frustrating if it keeps happening (cough, Tommy and Techno).
Ranboo is reacting to the plot amazingly and I have as usual only praise for him, go, you funky enderman boy, go.
Wilbur is getting resurrected which is a thousand percent because Will wants the plot back and honestly I don't really mind, I think he'll do a good job. However I really hope he speaks to everybody about their characters, particularly Fundy, Ranboo and Niki because I don't want their characterisation and arcs to be thrown away.
Tubbo is doing very well, and I don't have many complaints to be honest. I hope he continues to get in with the acting with no shame, because he's an amazing VA when he wants to be, but sometimes he undercuts serious moments a little too much by laughing. Same criticism for Phil actually. But both are doing good.
On the theme of that, while I don't mind tension relievers or humour in serious moments there are sometimes too many. It was a lot worse about a month back and it was improving, but it seems to be creeping back in and ehhh. It's kind of Marvel-esque and not in a good way? I think it has a lot to do with bloopers and for some reason there are loads at the moment? Like Wilburs arc had almost none and this arc there's at least 2 every moment. Which isn't always their fault but maybe they need to take more steps to prevent them.
Techno is doing OK, he's quite a meta character so I'm not too mad about him undercutting serious moments but sometimes he does do it too much or in the wrong place. Like making jokes about Connor completely over the top of Tommy and Tubbos reunion, you know an event which has been foreshadowed for yoinks, prevented them from getting a proper flow going and kind of ruined it. And that made the reunion really dissapointing, which is a shame because it could have been so cool. However his characterisation is consistent and dedicated, his goals and relationships are clear and he's getting humanised more which is nice, and his monologues are great. I'm curious to see what he does now NL'M is gone but I have total faith in him.
Now Tommy. Oh Tommy. His character is such a mess at the moment, which is a shame because there were moments I saw people doubting his character choices and I was behind him.
Firstly the relationship with Techno fell apart. That was inevitable. Tommy didn't care about anarchy and Techno didn't care about the discs and both of their goals would impede the others. But the way Tommy talks about Techno is so... No? And now I understand that Tommy is going to have a biased perspective on the whole situation, and that's fine and good, but his character is so wrong about Techno it feels weird and painful? Like even from his perspective it went down differently to how he talks about it. They don't listen to each other and it's like watching two people scream at a wall.
The issue is the relationship was fairly well developed. I struggle to see Tommy saying he saw Techno as a friend but Techno never saw him as a friend because hold on, what? Techno, here's a respiration helmet because of that one of thing you told me about your trauma, a disc because those make you happy, plus top tier armour and weaponry, plus I'm going to spend time with you, calm you down from panic attacks, hide you and protect you from Dream, let you wander around L'manburg and achieve your own goals and help you plan things out Techno and Tommy didn't get ANYTHING from that? Plus after Techno opens up about his goals and his trauma, do the one thing that would hurt him the most, (use and then betray him) and then directly oppose his goals after he helped me? Ugh. It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I know he would never let Tubbo get hurt and thats fine, but there were ways around that. If you're framing this character as the protagonist, then he needs to be sympathetic or at least grow and Tommy using Techno again without remorse and then refusing to listen to his perspective or show any gratitude for anything makes it difficult for viewers to empathise with him in my opinion. Have him betray Techno and then listen to Techno when he explains why Tommys betrayal hurt him and apologise, fine. Have him listen to Techno and try and find a way to keep Tubbo safe regardless, fine. Have him betray Techno but apologetically and still trying to avoid Techo getting crushed or killed, fine. But THIS? Im sympathetic towards Tommys character but this throws away so much potential character development for Tommy, where at least he saw Techno as a person, and not only that but a nice person who despite everything has set aside everything to help him? And then for him to be exactly where he was at the end of season 1, both literally, and emotionally ? I understand this is a child soldier with trauma but this is supposed to be our protagonist and if he doesn't grow, and isn't sympathetic and destroys someone we care about, how can we root for him?
Now all of this could be forgivable, not great, but forgivable, if Tommy had moved on from the discs. The Goddamn Discs™. And the worse part is all the dominoes were lined up to suggest he had! We had his moment of "he watched me" where he realised Dream was the villain and controlling him, "I've become worse than everyone I hated" good, amazing, I see where this is going, "The discs were worth more than you ever were!" and then he retracts and apologises and you think horray! Tommy has realised the discs were being used to control him and if he doesn't care about them, they hold no value! Now he's going to realise that his friends are more important and he's going to stop going after the discs. His new character motivation can be killing Dream and protecting his friends, especially Tubbo. It's clearly angled this way, and this way the plot progresses and Tommy with it. What marvellous character development. Look at him go.
And THEN, after everything that's happened he says the most important thing is the disc and I want them back!?!? EH !!? Why... Who... Who gave the OK on that writing decision? That's so static and boring and unsympathetic! And then he's back to asking people do fight for L'manburg? What?
I'll be honest I was kind go hoping either Tommy or Tubbo would die with L'manburg. I didn't mind it they didn't, there are a thousand ways to make the plot work without them dying, but this was not a great one.
PLEASE let Tommy have some growth. Yes he's had some from not caring about L'manburg to fighting for it in season one, but that was ages ago and he doesnt seem to have changed since then in any way that really counts. And I know this is harsh and he's traumatised but you have to understand I am talking about this in a sense of characters and narrative and NOT in terms of real life. Tommy needs to be better and dynamic because he is a charcacter and I want him to be a good one.
Having said all that, here are my thoughts on the future of the SMP.
Firstly, I am worried that becuse it is such a good source of content, especially for Tommy that they will never ever kill his character and leave him fighting with Dream for eternity. And I love the Dream SMP but I've seen stories that get dragged out for plot or content, and however much you think you want it to never end, let me tell you, yes you do. It will get stale and repetitive and I want the dream smp, or at least Tommys arc to go out with a beautiful and brilliant and fabulous plot ending instead of being dragged into the dirt. And then maybe new characters take the spotlight. Just please god give it a goode ending.
I also really hope they don't throw other things away to make Tommy the centre of attention, especially if it's destructive to the plot, or kind of weird and obnoxious.
Secondly, I am intrigued about the prison and Schlatts book to Dream and Technos favour and the egg and what that entails and I hope they really think through those plot points carefully and make them work, and don't forget them or throw them away.
Thirdly, I am intrigued for Wilburs return and hope that he manages to fix it cohesively without too crazy a change of pace and style and keeping characters (especially Ranboo and Fundy and Niki) consistent.
I hope they prep for the future and think things thought and communicate with each other.
It might be interesting to see other countries finally discussed but I don't know how much that would intefere with other plot points so we'll see.
That's all! Reminder that this is about characters and plot and this is just a few criticisms. I love the dream smp, but there are somethings I wanted to get of my chest. Please be respectful and feel free to discuss in the notes. Also, again, no hate to any CCs!
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bungou-stray-dingus · 4 years
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Omg honey I thought about it.Chuuya teaching his girlfriend self-defense so she could protect herself when he isn’t around.Like he always scared when she is going out so he taught her 🥺❣️
OH MAN
THIS GON BE A BLAST CAUSE I CAN SEE IT IN MY HEAD
THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER FANTASTIC REQUEST, LOVELY ❤️❤️❤️❤️
(Listening to Enya - Caribbean Blue because holy moly is it calming)
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Sure, you didn’t have an ability, and he couldn’t really help the fact that you didn’t have one, but he also wouldn’t let you just go out without any combat skills. You were a precious jewel, and if he couldn’t always be around to protect you, the least he could do is teach you to protect yourself so he knew that you were safe.
It’s not that you were weak, it’s just that you weren’t as strong as he’d like you to be. He knew what kind of people lurked the streets of Yokohama, he worried constantly that they’d hurt you just for being with him. The Port Mafia didn’t have many fans, and most of them would rather strike against closely related friends, family, and lovers than to go full force at the members of the Port.
The First Week of Training
He thought this would be easier, but seeing you stand in front of him with that little smile on your face looking as cute as ever, how was he supposed to even pretend to swing at you. He could have someone else from the mafia train you, but he’d be on edge the entire time, and probably end up kicking someone’s ass for touching you, even if he asked them to.
“Okay, I want you to hit me.” He said, and you bit your lip as you walked closer to him and lightly smacked his arm.
“Like that?” You asked, your smile growing wider. The smack could have been an ultra downy feather pillow being brushed against his arm, that’s how weak it was. He couldn’t tell you that though, you looked so proud of the hit that he just smiled and nodded.
“Exactly!” He cheered, but inwardly he was dying. This would be a lot harder than he thought.
“You know, it’s hard for me to actually want to hit you when you’re not fighting back.” You said, throwing weak punches at him.
“You give me no reason to fight back. You need to hit harder.” You pouted at his words and he sighed. He’d have to get you riled up, as much as he hated doing so. “You’re weak.” He mumbled, turning away. He heard your tiny growl from behind him and braced himself for the hit.
You punched his arm, harder this time, and he knew that the hit would most likely bruise. He turned to face you, and couldn’t help but laugh at the little pout that formed on your lips.
“Better, that one actually hurt a little bit.” He said and your sad/angry face turned to worry.
“I’m sorry Chu.” You quickly said and he laughed louder, wrapping his arms around your waist and kissing your forehead.
“Don’t apologize, baby. I want it to hurt, it means you’re getting stronger..” He said in between the kisses. He heard your sigh of relief and you loosened up in his hold. It would take a lot of work, but it would be worth it in the end.
Second Week of Training
You were starting to get the hang of basic hits, where critical spots are. You had sent him into a fit of laughter one of the days he was training you when you brought up an a technique that should have been obvious.
“Is it a cheap shot to kick someone between the legs?” You asked and he really tried to hold in his laughter, he did.
“If it’s a real enemy and you’re able to, baby, you kick as hard as you can.” He answered once his laughing died down a little.
He felt so proud of you when he walked in the bedroom one afternoon and you were watching self defense videos, standing in the middle of the floor trying to mimic the moves on the laptop screen. He asked if you’d like to practice the moves on him and he was feeling more confident in your skills when you were able to actually push him away and swing full force at his face. He dodged the hit, but praised you and the new moves you had learned.
“Maybe you can practice on one of the members of the Port?” He offered as the two of you sat on the couch after a full evening of practice.
“Are you sure I’m strong enough for that?” He would have to tell them to take it easy on you, but he knew you would fight harder if you weren’t up against him.
“I know you are, and I’ll be right there the entire time, don’t worry.” He reassured you. He would most likely have you up against Tachihara or Gin (without her knives). It would be easier for you to start out fighting them.
Third Week of Training
You shuffled awkwardly next to him as you stood in the empty warehouse by the port. Gin and Tachihara were there, and he could feel you tense up. “Hey, they’re not going to hurt you. You’re just practicing.” He squeezed your hand in his to try to calm you.
“Who’s going first Chuuya?” Tachihara asked, he was too pumped up for this and it made you anxious and Chuuya picked up on it immediately.
“I’ll have her go up against Gin first.” He said, and Tachihara grumbled under his breath something unintelligible.
He was happy that he picked Gin first though. She moved in slow motion, not only letting you practice the moves that Chuuya had taught you, but also showing you new moves that she thought you should know. She taught you to move swiftly, adding in that it would be extra safe if you carried a blade on you at all time while shooting a glare over at Chuuya. He would have to take that into consideration.
By the time Gin was done with her lesson you were moving more quickly, mirroring her moves almost to a T. He watched in amazement as you moved quickly around Gin, dodging her strikes then throwing them right back at her.
Tachihara was a different story though, he didn’t teach you anything. He wanted the thrill of a fight, and Chuuya was worried the entire time that he would actually hurt you. You moved around Tachihara at almost lighting speed though, and at one point you kicked his legs out from under him and had him pinned down on the floor, one arm raised as if you were about to punch him square in the face. Chuuya would have been cheering for you if it weren’t for the smug look that Tachihara threw Chuuya’s way when you were basically straddling him to keep him pinned down.
“Alright and thats done!” Chuuya shouted, walking over to where you were, grabbing your hand to pull you up off of Tachihara.
“I think she did a great job.” Tachihara said, too smugly. “We’ll have to do that again.”
“Next time I’ll tell her to actually punch you.” Chuuya snapped back.
Once the two of you got back home he had to explain to you that the moves were great, but he didn’t like seeing you like that with someone else, even if it was a fighting technique.
Fourth Week of Training
You started training with Gin a lot more, especially after Chuuya agreed to let you have a blade of your own. She was shaping you to be an assassin just like her, and even though that’s not what Chuuya had planned, he wasn’t put off by the idea of you being more well off than if he had stuck to fist fighting.
His heart stopped when Gin had first snuck up behind you and held the knife to your neck, but then she taught you the same move and he started clapping when you got it down in the first try.
Sometimes Akutagawa would come to the warehouse to watch you train with his sister, standing on the sidelines with Chuuya. He was the only one who would criticize you, but as soon as you fixed your movements he would mumble an off handed compliment about how you’re getting better, but you still need more practice. Even though it got under Chuuya’s skin, it was nice to have someone there who could actually pick out the flaws in your moves instead of just praising you for everything you did right, like he did.
Some days when Chuuya would come home from work you’d practice your stealth attacks, coming out from seemingly nowhere and placing your blade against his throat. Before his mind could even register the shock you would pull the blade away and move in front of him, pressing a swift kiss to his lips.
He liked having you “practice” the move you did on Tachihara. Not because he liked when you had him pinned down on the floor, your hips grinding against his, your hands keeping his pinned above his head. Definitely not for that reason. >_>
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It took only two months total for you to be practically Black Lizard level good, you had even learned how to use a gun, although you did a lot better with a knife. Although he still wasn’t completely comfortable with you leaving the house without him, he knew that you would be able to hold your own, at least against a couple thugs. He still feared what would happen if you came up against an ability user, but that was a thought for another day.
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lucidpantone · 3 years
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It really just makes me so mad that they still try and make the fans feel bad about our response to S4.
If what you’ve interpreted from your little birds is true, about them not giving certain characters an insta because of how fans commented in S4...like how blindly ignorant you still gotta be to try and put that onto us? That attitude I stg.
It feels like they completely ignore the total outpouring of love they get from us when they do things right (wtfockdown for example) and have just focussed on painting the majority of the fandom as ‘over critical/over sensitive/too invested’ based on the insulting mess they made for us to consume last year.
It honestly baffles me in a “the customer is always right kind of way” that they’d treat their audience with continued disrespect when in reality we are so keen to love what they give us. No one wants to hate on the content.
We’re all still stupidly here and invested for some reason. Please stop insulting us.
modified anon: So basically they mean they won’t give Chaimae or the other model an insta 🙃 They’re worried the other models will get hate but honestly making the main a racist,,, what did they expect? We wouldn’t call them out? When will they realise being actively anti racist is not hate?
See here is my thing I can see from inside looking out that the crew sees the attachment to the show as something along the lines of fans being to “fanatic” but s4 from the outside looking in has nothing to do with fans being fanatic it has everything to do with platforming racist ideology. I don't care if it was an earnest attempt to highlight white privilege that went wrong because the writer lacked experience and knowledge at the end of the day the season serves as a device for emboldening micro aggressive behavior steeped in oppressing marginalized people. The reason the crew feel so attacked and in their feelings is because to put it plainly they are all white aside from very few people and no white person likes their name and their work to be spoken about alongside the word racism. 
Thats what the whole not addressing s4 is actually about. Lets be real honest. So to justify the mess the crew probably label the outrage of fans being fanatic. No dear take some accountability you created a piece of media that intentionally aligns itself with micro aggressive behavior. So stop calling the fans bullies, stop running away from accountability because you think the fans just overreacted, and stop trying to repackage kato and the people behind her creation as anything more then white people that displayed how racially bias and tone deaf they are. Stop saying the fan especially those who are poc are just meanies. Also if they really believed that they wouldn't go out of their way to hide in their offices refusing to address 4 and going out of their way to not have instas for characters because they are afraid of  being called out again even tho the fans are right.
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