#bts did it for the gays

[wewebaggit]

The Big Byler Theory

This might not be well structured but I will try not to be all over the place and keep it as short as possible. So here goes.

How it's gone so far

First and foremost, Mike's got to earn it. He has been a bit of a bitch and an asshole and has not yet learned the art of apologising. The show and Mike rest on Will's enthusiasm to forgive and forget to make it seem like all's fine and dandy. Mike hasn't apologised for his homophobic remark in season 3 and neither has he apologised for repeatedly ignoring Will. (season 4 apology was lame sowie) Mike has to learn to make amends (not just with Will) and take responsibility for his words. You can't just be the heart and then simultaneously be the asshole.

Will on the other hand needs to get to a point where he "doesn't hate himself" or at least makes major improvement in his self worth. His arc can't be about realising that he's deserving of Mike's love. But love in general.

Van Scene/Garage Scene aka Byler create a Scene

People talk about how Mike doesn't make him feel like a mistake at all and apply it to Mike making him feel like he's okay/better for being gay. NO. Mike's love and friendship makes him better for being different. Different in the way he's small and shy and easily intimidated but better cuz he feels like he can voice his opinions in front of Mike. Different in the way that his clothes are colourful, he draws and is artsy and sensitive and has been regularly bullied for those qualities even by his own father but better cuz Mike plasters his art everywhere. Different in the way that his songs are "stupid" or not Kenny Rogers but better cuz he can sing them around Mike anyway. Different in the way that he was possessed by a netherworldly entity and used as a spy but better cuz Mike made him their super spy. Different in how he was alone on the swings and Mike walked up to him and asked him to be his friend and it was the best thing he ever did. Different in the way he feels not everyone understands him but better cuz Mike does and would be gladly go crazy together with him. Different in how he is usually treatedlike a baby, like a freak but better cuz Mike doesn't treat him differently at all.

But that does not give Mike a pass. The 2020fication of the 80s or the post-homophobiafication of humanity in general has made people excuse homophobia just because it came from a gay guy. People need to realise that just because you suspect someone to be homophobic, you don't just cut them out of your life. Many do. Many don't. There's militant homophobia and then there's the hate the sin not the sinner homophobia. And everything in between. So Will regardless of what he thinks about Mike's homophobia is not just gonna dump his ass. As far as Will knows Mike's just straight. He does not have Tumblr perspective. Heck he has lesser than casual viewer perspective. So his gayness is still definitely something Mike doesn't make him feel better about. Cuz Mike doesn't even know for one. And Mike is just rubbing his relationship in his face even if it's not about being homophobic but just a bad friend. (In Will's POV)

And no. This is not to call Mike the devil's spawn. But to say that an express apology is fundamental to his own arc. Because to apologise to Will he must first forgive himself for wanting what he wants.

I resent the idea that Mike is aware of AND willing to explore his feelings for Will but ONLY stops himself because he loves El so so much and doesn't want to lose her. Makes no sense. She hasn't really been sending him any signals of wanting to chuck him out of her life.

Mike's arc is about conformism. And it is because he's someone who can successfully do it without being "clocked". He isn't scared to lose her. He is scared to lose his shield. He's scared to face his "difference" cuz if he doesn't have a girlfriend he is only a boy who doesn't really want girlfriends and honestly can't get girlfriends.

And again that's not a commentary on his frog face or inability to rizz up or whatever the kids are calling it these days. It is his canon inability to know anything about dating a girl. Something that is very instinctual. (Confusion over how to get back El vs just knowing to go after Will). He keeps looking up to Lucas who's by no means an expert since that's his first relationship too. But my boy Sinclair has his hetero instincts with him. Puberty slapped Mike hard and he is now not only aware that he's attracted to boys but also that he's not attracted to girls.

It's his defensiveness and self-hate that made him lash out at Will. Was he projecting? Yes. But was he really remorseful? No. Because he intended to say what he did. That's what people do when they're defensive. Cuz it was an entirely disproportionate response to "some stupid girl". Also a hetero would know bros before hoes. (ik shit) But he completely cuts off his bros? Ya. So so straight. As seen with Lucas not finding it hard to find a balance. (It's been like this all summer - Lucas Sinclair himself said it).

So what does it mean for Byler? (That is so horribly underdeveloped LMAO I can't even bt that's for a different day).

How it should go moving forward (I feel/hope/pray/manifest)

Well, the timing of it could be anything. But that painting is gonna be brought up. And it is going to be messy. I know people want Mike to be sad and not angry, but sad and angry is just so much better and makes sense. There is a fight. Because neither are ready to lay it all out in the open. You don't suddenly gain that confidence. I hope they're separated after. If it is because of avoidance, different team ups, or both. Doesn't matter. They both need time with their thoughts and the time being spent thinking about their own selves. This growth may be through convos with their loved ones and some other self reflective moments. I think that Mike's gonna get a coming out scene most probably with Karen. Will might get a scene like the one he already got in SBP with Jonathan but maybe with Joyce. (I hope she needs to make a comeback as a mother.) It could be a private moment or a Byers family moment. I don't want a party coming out. I want the boys to share this with the people that are closest to them and their fiercest supporters and rocks. Karen for Mike and Joyce n Jonatan for Will. Also, I think it's Mike who's gonna HAVE TO expressly say it while Will's could go either way. This is cuz of the differences in their circumstances - in/visible gayness.

How do they get together? Well believe it or not, a lot of unnecessary supernatural and sci-fi plot shit is crammed in (bullshit right?) and maybe they're now more okay being around each other cuz their deepest fears have been mostly assuaged. They don't feel alone with their truth and therefore, their place in the world does not rest on the reciprocity of their feelings. Imagine not HAVING to need each other but CHOOSING to. Cuz they just really really really want it. And it would make them happy. How they pursue each other is by not hiding. Nothing too brave I feel. Just being themselves. The vibes will carry. How THE getting together scene goes - I don't know. Surprise me, honestly. But for all the shit treatment their storyline has gotten so far I want s5 to fix it so well that WHEN it happens we all go crazy together! 💙💛

#I delivered on the not well structured but fumbled on the keep it short........oops #also Will doesn't just hate himself cuz GAY bt the exploration of the other facets of his self hatred are not relevant HERE #i usually re-read what I write bt not this time so sorry for any mistakes.... by all means point and laugh #actually did re-read cuz wtf happened #byler #stranger things #will byers #mike wheeler #wewe's opinionions

[get-back-homeward]

David Jacobs, the suave and arrogant showbiz lawyer whose clients included The Beatles, Marlene Dietrich, Liberace and Judy Garland and who introduced Epstein to the gay scene in the capital was also a key player. Bullock calls it a “support network for the entertainment industry”. They needed it. While success brought money, attention and a certain freedom from the mores of contemporary society, it also caused problems.

Until the Sexual Offences Act of 1967 legalised homosexual acts between consenting adults over the age of 21, gay men had been confined to a crepuscular demi-monde and were confronted with a rise in prosecutions and several ‘sensational’ court cases well into the 1960s that had served to keep them in the closet rather than face misguided public opprobrium, the attention of the police and, frequently, blackmail.

The business uniform of single-breasted sharp suit and thin tie might have still ruled the roost but as the 1960s started to get underway, the author points out, “We really see people starting to come out of their shells and being a bit more flamboyant and less guarded in what they’re doing. People are kind of realising that within entertainment, and particularly rock and pop, you can probably get away with a little bit more”.

In other words, there was lots of sex and drugs to go with the rock n roll for successful gay men in the business and that necessarily meant existing within a network of people you could trust. “Certainly, there were parties at Brian Epstein’s house where he would just invite anyone around who he thought would be interesting and fun and just let them carry on while he would pick out who he fancied and take them off to another room,” says Bullock. “There was a certain amount of you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours in business terms but there was also a feeling that it was also much easier to play in that way, to host parties for this kind of network and for the people this network knew in a place where you were not likely to be arrested, not going to get busted or have the press hammering at your door.

“David Jacobs was always being asked to come and get people out of sticky situations,” explains Bullock. “Brian was blackmailed several times, often by the same ex-boyfriend… including on one occasion when this guy made off with some of the takings from the Beatles’ Candlestick Park gig in San Francisco and some pills, private papers and photographs before demanding $10,000 for their safe return. Blackmail was going on so often, they got used to having to pay-off people to shut them up but when you have so much money lying around I guess it’s not that much of an issue and certainly paying off the occasional blackmailer has got to be better than going to a club and being caught out and having your name splashed all over the newspapers.”

From “The Network of Gay Men at the Heart of Britain’s Pop Culture Revolution” by Bill Barrows on the release of Darryl W. Bullock’s The Velvet Mafia book | photo credit: Scott K. Runyen [x]

#brian epstein #blackmail #i wonder a lot how much fixing was happening bts #lawyers and the beatles #david jacobs #hes the guy who did the bad merchandising deal #yikes jacobs has a grizzly end too found hanged in 1968 #the number of high profiled gay men in london found dead and ruled a suicide in 67-68 #no wonder why theres so much conspiracies theories afoot #bug book list #the velvet mafia #darryl w bullock #mine

[spicypussywave]

being bored out of my mind for 3 hrs without anything to distract myself has made me realise, once again, that i am Not built to be alone with my thoughts

#could not sit still the whole time lmao #doodling did not stop me from thinking about sailomkanghan #hope the mind reader in the room liked the bts songs #along w the gay smut #naomivents

[snake-snack-stede]

this is where gay people go when we die. I think it's called doggy heaven

#honestly tho gay pirates can totally judge my actions cuz they'd be like 'no yeah u were totally justified' #regardless of what I did #be gay do crime what else is there to life #ofmd #our flag means death #ofmd bts

[seddair]

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#been thinking if they did kill off somebody #would tend to agree with the general consensus that it would (probably?) be bobby #the big bobby storyline coming and the bts of peter…. 😬 #i would be very surprised if they killed buck after just getting done with the bi buck arc #feels a little too close to the bury your gays trope rn lol #i’ve always maintained that the will likely saves eddie from being killed off #because i just don’t see this show wanting to actually go through with giving christopher to buck #unless they decide to undo the will entirely (which is possible given some of the bts we’ve seen as of late but prob not likely) #i trust kenny is correct in his assertion that madney is post-wedding bliss so they’re probably fine #i don’t see them killing off hen after doing this mara storyline #and they’re not gonna write off angela bassett a second sooner than they have to lmao #tommy feels… possible? not super likely given the same reason as buck but he’s not a main so who knows #marisol straight up doesn’t matter enough to be considered lmao #doubt anyone at dispatch is involved either #so that being said… bobby feels like the most likely choice #with eddie as a slight possibility #and maybe tommy if they aren’t going mcd (god please no) #anyway #just had some thoughts given the new episode title #i hope no one is killed but with the network move and tim being back… it feels more real than it has in a while

[radiantaerynsvn]

gillian anderson will be working with lena headey and i'm being so normal about it

i'm not being normal about it one bit

#gillian anderson #lena headey #HAPPY PRIDE MONTH #like. gay dreams coming true and all #i haven't been this excited about her upcoming stuff in forever i needed this #they did this for me #i can't believe she worked with billie piper earlier this year and now lena #my heart is racing i need to get a GRIP #but its GILLIAN AND LENA #i need all the bts and promo content #send help #the abandons #i guess

[theinfinitedivides]

to every single cast and crew member who conspired and came together to convince Shah Rukh to open his f*cking shirt for that glorious, glorious shot in JJP that is permanently burned into my brain. bc he is a Shy Boi ™ and Smol ™ and must be coaxed into doing so very carefully or else he will refuse altogether. tysm truly you are out here doing God's work even though they did not ask you to and i am kissing you on your hand on the forehead on the cheek on the mouth with tongue for those of you who are into that sh*t (like me *cough*)

#film: pathaan #pathaan #shah rukh khan #srk #bollywood #local gay watches Bollywood.txt #all the shots of staff holding the end of his green ensemble so he can do pushups and not trip (therefore giving us a glimpse #of waist [!!!] for us to drool over like some repressed Victorians). 10/10 #he held himself up by his forearms when rehearsing for the window shot and Deepika was like 'this is an opportunity i cannot miss' #and stood straight between his legs. 10/10 #yes i'm going feral over the JJP look(s) again bc YRF made me by posting more BTS footage. what of it #i was going to out myself as a thigh admirer and say something to the effect of the cake is in the legs up in the post #but i decided against it and just kept that in the tags sfjsfdnkjsdnj #look he has abs!!! and thighs!!! we are under full on hoe alert for this look in this house!!! #him complaining over FaceTime to Gauri(? i'm assuming although it could be one of the children) afterwards #'they're making me eat too much and he's [Siddharth] making me take my clothes off' crying #bby if we wanted you naked we'd ask for more than that chest shot OK rn we are settling for what we can get #but seriously tho what mode was his brain on in Besharam Rang and Dard-e-Disco. where was the switch #bc he was completely shirtless in both songs and in BR's BTS i did not see him looking at all shy #then again no one else was really dressed either so he had company??? ig??? #idk idk #also Arijit cameo!!! it was only for like a second at the beginning but he is notoriously camera shy so that was a treat #and everyone vibing around the lamppost at the end #i love them so much

[inhidingxoxo3637]

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#i was just thinkin of that vid of Acosta n Dixon fckin about near de motorhomes this weekend #n then i was thinking of a TNT (bt) sport interview they did w dixon this weekend #where dixon mentioned hed been chattin w acosta this weekend bc they get along pretty well (gay ik) #n acosta had said to dixon he wasnt worried about having to battle dixon during this race #n dixon had said *oh but if ur thinking that that means you've been thinking about it and must actually be worried about me* #anyways hows it feel dickson ?? #where exactly was dicky boy v acoster today hmm? #welp thst is all thank u #moto2 #pedro acosta

[maxthesillyy]

not to make two 10 pm random life is strange thoughts in a row but im just saying damon and frank were kinda gay

#like the first time i played the prequel i was the equivalent of that snapcube meme #woah hes bisexual i didnt know that!!! #damon meddrik or smth #damon merrick #frank bowsers #lis #lis bts #life is strange #life is strange before the storm #like. I HATED the random drug cartel act they did just as much as everybody else but…. #idk man…. seems kinda gay to me #sorry life is strange fandom (head in hands) #(/silly)

[romansmartini]

something i found out recently is that jonathan bailey played jamie in the 2018 west end company revival. which is something i’m really normal about

#company #normally i avoid that recording because i do NOT like the bobbie. sorry to that woman #except for patti lupone songs obviously #also not to flex america style but the broadway performer did it more smoothly. but i love you theater kid jonathan bailey #and also gay version of getting married today #while we’re here jonathan bailey only sure fire way i’ll see wicked. plus all of the bts drama i feel i have to witness the result of

[symeraid-s]

Either I’m dumb or Set Me Free Pt.2 sounds nothing like Jimin.

And not in the sense that it’s not his style, it’s his voice. Something is very... off about it and I don’t know what. Like, is it a featuring that goes uncredited? Is it edited? Is this Jimin’s natural range an I’m an idiot? I don’t think so. I think it’s edited to hell and back.

I just hope that this pre-release is not forshadowing for the title track.

#bts #jimin #disclaimer: just my opinion #honestly why do they have to keep doing this to Jimin? #He sounded normal up until Fake Love #and nowadays he sounds like a chipmunk robot #something somewhere went terribly wrong #and I'm blaming HYBE for all of it #you don't need to autotune the demons out of him!! Let him keep them!! #also why does he have a german text on his chest? #and why did they have to make it religious when this song seems very clearly gay coded? #can't get a proper shot of all of it or else I would translate it #there is something about a hawk circling a tower and then something about getting closer to god #Idk

[jinstronaut]

it’s time i’m coming out i’m officially a yoontaejin bias i can’t fucking cope anymore

#MIN YOONGI STORMED INTO MY HOUSE AND SAID KNOCK KNOCK #HOW DID I THINK I WAS SAFE IM FKCIN GAY DUDE #BYE #RUN BTS MIN YOONGI CALL ME #TXT //

[autism-corner]

link click x coockie run kingdom when.......

#you would not believe my face when i first downloaded enstars like 2.5 years ago and saw the doomed gays...... #and i KNOW cookierun does fun adventures bc when i first downloaded THAT i saw the blue hedgehog!!! WOOWO #+ like. disney and bts. #which sure. are a bit bigger than link click but. link click goes wild for colabs i dont think im to lost with hoping =w=b #augh #crk is going so well for me rn i am CLIMBING the ranks. #my first arena i did after i re-installed i ended in master 1!! #second ended in elite4!!! #currently in my third arena season and already in elite4 again =w=bb\ #PLUS ive got five cookies at lvl 80 rn so +w+bbb MAX LEVEL BABY #sillyposting #augh this game might be a bit fun guys....

[dtaegis]

ok WHAT the fuck is happening there is just dance LORE

#like lore LORE #not lore in a map like telephone #there are some gay ass bitches on this lore #and generational trauma #honestly i'm more interested in whatever the fuck rasputin and hot n cold have going on #like how did this happen. executives were talking about what they should do for their next just dance #and one of them says what if hot n cold coach and rasputin coach were a couple #and everyone went wait that's cool!!!! #i wanna know the first hot n cold/rasputin shipper. i need to know if they're an angst lover #also jd got the gayest coaches for the bts songs there's no way any of these characters are straight

[bylertruther]

random non-st post but have u ever tried something on and looked at urself in the mirror and gone "ok... i know i'm gay but this is . this is too gay even for ME" bc 💀💀 i was looking for button ups to switch things up a bit and trying to add more color to my wardrobe (im a rusty warm colors kind of gal a la will) and EVERY TIME i tried something on i was like . i literally look like richie tozier rn. or fucking will whenever i put on smth more like me. like jeezus brist 🤦‍♀️

#did not help tht i had pride sneakers on but. gays will be gay ig.. 🧐📝 #i also wear big glasses like richie so i didn't even want to show the person i was with bc i KNEWWWWW she'd say it BDGSHSBSBSH #i was trying to look like guillermo bc i saw soooo many cool vests bt alas. my chest did not appreciate it </3

[rwrbmovie]

BTS of #RWRBMovie: interview room

Neil Floyd via Big Gay Energy:

That's the weird part, no one got that in all of the Twitter that I've seen for the entire film about every detail in the film. I guess because we just kinda made it up, it wasn't part of the book, but we decided the interview room could be an homage to Richard Curtis who wrote all the romantic comedies, you know for the past 20 years. That was our nod to 'Notting Hill', because in 'Notting Hill', Julia Roberts was the American and Hugh Grant was the Brit, and they sort of do the whole interview thing with Horse & Hound. So we actually rented the exact same furniture. The sofa is different, because the one that Julia Roberts was on was a bit smaller, and for the two boys' size, we couldn't fit them on that sofa, so we had a different sofa. But the coffee table, everything – the flower arrangements, they were done by our florist who knew the original florist who did 'Notting Hill'. So we did this whole thing, so that was kinda our fun, cheeky little set because we wanted to see "oh, would anyone get it?" But it was our homage to you know, classic romcoms from our days and now we're doing a gay version so it was great.

#bts posts are back baby #rwrb bts #rwrb movie #red white and royal blue #rwrbsource #bts #neil floyd #* #rwrbbts #damage control #me giffing notting hill in 2024 #didnt see that coming but love it #one of my faves how did i not notice this