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Just rewatched The Dead Apple and noticed something about Fyodors ability.
Every other ability that doesn't have a manifestation and is brought to life by the fog follows these 2 rules.
They form a copy of their wielder with a blank face with glowing eye's, and they have their Gem weak spot on their foreheads.
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The only abilities that don't follow these rules are ones that have a manifestation and even then the humanoid ones still keep the gem on their forehead.
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But then theres Fyodor, his ability not only manifests in a different outfit, but with a fully detailed face.
And his gem is on his hand, which is completely different to every other ability.
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So Fyodors ability has not only completely ignored the drive to kill its wielder, but also does not manifest like any other, It breaks all three rules of the fog. The only other abilities to have faces are Elise and the Tiger, both of which have physical forms with faces outside of the fog. does this mean that Fyodors ability can actually manifest as a physical person outside the fog too? is that how he's communicating with the outside world from the prison? it opens up so many questions.
But there is one other ability that also breaks all three of these rules; Atsushi's
The tiger has its gem on the back of its neck, it also has a full face and at one point it attacks rashomon instead of Atsushi which is the only other time an ability deviates from attacking its user.
We know Fyodor was the one who told Shibusawa about Atsushi, and that he somehow knew his ability was special even before it had manifested. there is some connection between them that hasn't yet been explored and I'm really excited to see where it goes.
BSD is one show where details like this are rarely just coincidences, and considering how much mystery there is around Fyodors ability I'm sure that there is way more going on then it would first seem.
Analysing this gave me a new theory about Fyodors ability but I'll put that in a separate post, for now please tag me if this post inspired any new theories for you, I'd love to here them
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noose-lion · 1 year
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Okay. Okay.
So the idea that abilities in bsd are trauma based is basically canon yeah? Maybe just high stress or something like that... but it seem pretty damn canon.
Like-
We have Kyouka who just flat out inherited her mother's ability.
We have Chuuya who (this is near speculation) at the age of 7 had an ability and a calamity god after being basically tortured.
We have Atsushi who's ability manifested while being tortured.
We see Yosano developing her ability through her trauma.
Akutagawa was a orphan who needed to protect himself and his sister and he got a guard dog of an ability. His ability continues the development, adapting to abuse.
Even Steinbeck went hungry with such a large but poor farming family, and he got an ability that grows plants, crops and the such.
Some may seem redundant, like Kunikida. But someone with high anxiety (which he definitely has) could feel large amounts of stress (especially when young) if they don't have the things they need...
And then just for myself. We know little about where Dazai came from. But let's think. His ability turns off other abilities. Maybe he suffered great harm at the hands of an ability user through their ability...
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nixnephili · 8 months
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No Longer Human colored sketches
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From the Ability Personification A.U.
honestly, one of my favorite designs
One of...
Thoughts on him~? would you like to tell him or ask him something?~
-Nix🌙
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note-boom · 9 months
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Something about bsd abilities and trauma and also literature as escapism to face reality better. Something about Atsushi's fantasy being all about strength and self healing and a rampaging "beast beneath the moonlight" when reality forces him to rely on others to heal and emphasizes his empathy and "weakness." Something about Dazai's escapist fantasy and character trope as something "no longer human" when he actually is very much human. Something about Yosano's fantasy being a world where "thou shalt not die" when reality keeps making her face death. Something about Kunikida's desires to be a "lone poet" against the world with just him and his ideals realised when reality is full of people he can't abandon. Or Kenji escaping into a world where he is "undefeated by the rain" and putting his entire soul into living that dream out. Or Akutagawa being (philosophically) consumed by his "rashoumon" when reality shows he doesn't always have to devour and overtake....
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diary-ofamadwoman · 2 months
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Does Fyodor being introduced twice has something to do with his ability?
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As we've seen in Dead Apple, Fyodor is the only one who isn't attacked by his ability. This is also the only case where the crystal is not placed on the forehead but on the hand instead.
As far as we know, his ability works with touch, which might explain why the gem is on his hand but not the difference to the other abilities.
Fyodor states that Crime and Punishment are friends and it seems like his ability when separated has a certain degree of consciousness, or that Fyodor is able to control it.
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This contradicts what he told Sigma (that it's his ability that's in control). While it was obviously a way to trick Sigma, I wonder if there's a bit of truth in Fyodor's words.
Who's the puppet and who's the puppeteer? A role Fyodor loves to play, one that allows him to be in complete control of others' actions. Wouldn't it be interesting to see him in the opposite one - that of a puppet? Perhaps something's stronger than him and leaves him with no option but to obey...
Back to Fyodor's two introductions. One is in ch.12 (vol.3), while the other is in ch.37 (vol.9)
Could this symbolize that Crime and Punishment are indeed two separate entities? Or that Fyodor and his ability are? Why otherwise would Fyodor need two introductions unless it is necessary in order to introduce the two different characters?
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I have a theory for season 6
First thing first, the background: The whole DOA's plan. From the purpose that pushed Fukuchi to do that: massive war in the future that killed millions of people all around the world, more severe than Great War which ended 15 years ago (before the main storyline). Then fueled as well by the hate to corrupted people in the government body who caused those issues. Therefore he tried to combine all armies in the world under one command leader, Army of Mankind to mitigate the future war. Therefore, a strong current incident/terror should be made in order to make the United Nations realize how important that thing is. And as Fukuchi confirmed, the proposal of DOA's plan came from Fyodor, which means he told Fyodor about the massive future war.
Now here several scattered info from Stormbringer novel apply in: The future big war Fukuchi mentioned is probably a singularity war. The Great War (the beginning of several major issues in BungoSD) as confirmed in Stormbringer novel, European countries competed to create singularity to be a weapon. Why singularity? Because, only singularity has enough energy to harm the world. Ability alone is considered as not harmful as it can't raze the world on its own because one of the ability principles: Ability has an output ceiling. This output ceiling doesn't exist in singularity (more about this in Stormbringer)
Three major powers during the Great War: England, France, and Germany competed to achieve that goal. Germany found a theoretical way to create a powerful singularity (not the normal clashing ability way as singularity from this method has limited energy, it'll run out). Then a rebel scientist in France managed to be the first one to realize that theoretical plan into reality. He created the first singularity that can be weaponized from the theory Germany found, yes, the birth of Guivre singularity (Paul Verlaine). Germany then stole the research file, shared it to their ally: Japan and another singularity was born: Arahabaki (Chuuya). Hearing German + Japan's success in creating singularity that has enough energy to destroy the world, France tried to steal Chuuya (that time was still 7 y.o.) from the lab in Japan. But the plan failed and that destructive Arahabaki incident happened. Soon after that, Great War ended with a ceasefire signed by France, Germany, England (as confirmed in 55 Minutes about the ceasefire process)
Now you might have realized which one amongst the three major powers during the Great War didn't have singularity (from that method) as a weapon. Yes, England. Tho they created the Shell (by H.G.Wells, first mention in 55 Minutes) and One Order. The Shell vs the new singularity: The Shell energy itself caused massive annihilation, a singularity effect, but fun fact, the energy was not enough to destroy Guivre singularity, instead it made Guivre stronger
Now, combine those things together with facts in Season 5. All of us witnessed that entity at the end of Season 5, right? Based on info in Stormbringer, that entity high probability is a singularity from Fukuchi's ability created from the same concept as Guivre (Verlaine) and Arahabaki (Chuuya) creation. Yes, few rare people in the world can create powerful singularity with near-UNLIMITED amounts of energy just by using their own ability. These people are called having "self-contradicting ability". Chuuya's original ability that created his singularity is "ability to amplify other abilities". Does it ring a bell? Yes, Fukuchi's ability is ability to amplify the effectiveness of any object he uses as a weapon, so theoretically Fukuchi is one amongst the special people. Full process about creating the singularity in Stormbringer
Now the question, why did that entity suddenly appear? Here is the crazy part of my coping theory: Another bigger and powerful party is involved. Huh? Yes. [Note: This is just me connecting the dots so I might be wrong] Remember which major power country doesn't have the singularity weapon during the Great War? Yes, England. What if England was behind this? Why? Remember we've seen Fyodor, Fitzgerald, and Agatha Christie (from the Order of the Clock Tower of England) were on call a long time ago in the manga. So, they know each other. Remember again who proposed the plan to Fukuchi? Fyodor. What is Fyodor's ultimate goal as mentioned the first time during the Cannibalism arc? Remove the sinners (ability users). So, what if the appearance of Fukuchi's singularity was planned so England can capture it (somehow) to be their weapon?
Now, add another thing from Stormbringer, Verlaine ,Chuuya's older brother who is also currently one of the 5 executives of Port Mafia, mentioned the Storm that will happen in the future. The only time Verlaine will appear again to give his assistance What is the Storm? He never gives specific explanations. This doesn't end here because Verlaine too has connection with the Order of Clock Tower, well... more to he caused an issue to them Verlaine destroyed the Order of the Clock Tower's credibility beyond repair as he easily killed 3 members of the Order and assassinated the Queen (glad the Order used body double) during her coronation. So, what if the other purpose of England doing this was to restore that? other than to obtain a powerful weapon (a singularity).
This also might somehow explain about why Fyodor can easily believe Chuuya was under control. Well, we don't know Meursault Prison's location, but it might be in France (as Meursault is a real location in France). Remember the thing France did during Great War? They tried to steal Chuuya from Japan. Now with Chuuya destroyed Meursault prison, France has strong reason to capture him. Plus Fyodor specifically targeted Chuuya to appear there. Remember when Nikokai asked him whether he wanted to change item? Fyodor basically said no need as he had assistance already (Chuuya).
I also think adam might come back or might save chuuya if he ends up being captured
but yeah this is all i have
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anushkab2711 · 1 year
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If it's for the casino I'll do anything. I love this character.
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With my mum's discarded eyeliner ink.
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bungoautismspectrum · 2 months
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Does anyone else ever wonder if abilities and mix or not
Cuz like
We know they can be passed on so is it *strictly* that, or can two abilities be combined (say two ability users have a kid)
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woklaza · 5 months
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Q’s ability analysis
Q was sent to manipulate Atsushi or whatever in order for him to hurt the agency staff. But during that time, Dazai went to the ‘toilet’. Back then, Higuchi explained to Dazai that she and Gin were there to protect Dazai, and Dazai immediately knew it was Q’s doing. Q posed such a threat to Dazai he was actually shocked. That meant Q had once made the PM or other organisations plunge into chaos, up to this part, we all understand as we watched.
But why does the PM have to protect Dazai? As a person with a nullification ability, he wouldn’t be affected by Q’s ability. But that did not seem to be the case. From the PM’s actions, it seemed as if Dazai could not nullify Q’s ability if he were manipulated, which meant that Q’s ability could actually be used on Dazai.
To strengthen my point, when Dazai rushed to the scene as Atsushi nearly kills Naomi, he didn’t touch Atsushi. This shows Dogura Magura could not be stopped singularly. What I mean by this is say Q managed to manipulate both Atsushi and Haruno, and Dazai wanted to only nullify the ability on Atsushi (that won’t happen, obviously. This is just an example) , he wouldn’t have been able to do that. Dazai didn’t even bother to touch Atsushi when he was manipulated, so there is no way to singularly nullify Dogura Magura.
When Dazai did nullify the ability, he touched the doll instead of Atsushi or Q. This may seem a bit strange to some people, why wouldn’t Dazai just touch Q? I have two theories on this:
1- Simply because if Dazai touched Q, he would have been able to trigger Dogura Magura. We can put this in maths:
Say Dogura Magura is D, and No longer Human is N.
The current situation is:
+D
If Dazai activates his ability, it would be:
N-+D which is
N-D
= 0 (no more Dogura Magura)
But if at the same time, Dogura Magura is triggered:
N-+D
=0
0+D
=D
Of course, this is the first theory, so it may not work, so the second theory is:
2- Q doesn't have full control of Dogura Magura and the whole ability may actually lie in the doll. Some evidence of this is when Q says “I never asked for this ability” when captured by the Guild.
Of course, at the end of the day, these are just some delusional nonsense I managed to cook up, but it would be fun to see more of Q’s ability being explained.
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ranlien · 1 year
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"What are you?" (Theory)
(Chapter 107 spoilers)
Theory: the Fydor we see is actually the ability "Crime and Punishment".
(also, first time making a post; please pat gently and tell me if I break any tumblr etiquette roles or something)
First off, we know that it is possible for abilities to gain human form/take over their wielders.
There is Jules Gabriel Verne from 55 minutes, where his ability consumes him and walks around in his body as Gab for most of the novel,
and also how Arthur Rimbaud lived on as his ability (or programmed his ability to act as him? Uncertain, because I did not read the source material for this part)
so it is possible for abilities to be 'alive', or human-like.
There are a couple things that I am drawing from for this theory, but it feels like it all comes together nicely? So here it is:
Dead Apple, when Fydors ability appears it acts differently from other abilities in many ways.
His ability does not attack him and instead there is the kinda famous proclamation of "I am crime" and "I am punishment". Crime and punishment are cause and effect/result, and the person it is associated with can just as easily be reversed. In that scene, it always struck me that Fydor and his ability looked like mirror images and the proclamation could just as easily be reversed
the manifested ability under the fog has distinct facial features, unlike the other abilities
gemstone on hand rather than forehand like everyone else
From Dead Apple, his ability seems to be very 'human' (and for the sake of consistency, I will just be referring to Fydor as the one we see in canon and his ability as "Crime and Punishment" instead of inverting it and confusing everyone and myself).
The other main point I guess was how Sigma phrased his question; he hesitates and then something causes him to ask "what are you?" instead of "what is your ability".
while far-fetched, maybe its Sigma's origins speaking to him as something created from the book. In physical terms, he is as human as everyone else (and probably the sanest and most mentally stable person in the prison)
but he is created from the book, completely out of nothing. I was always curious whether his origins would have further repercussions other than trama (wanting a home and trust) but it would be very interesting if he could sense, when he really looked, that something was off with Fydor as well.
and given how the question switched, it does seem like there. is the very natural implication that rather than directing the question about the nature of Fydor's ability, what he is is in doubt.
From the above, I propose: what we have been seeing in the manga is actually "Crime and Punishment" puppeting Fydor's body (also possible that they can switch, cause otherwise I don't know how they would be able to stand being in the same room as Dazai) while actual Fydor maybe sleeps inside the body???? Or helps along with the plans??? (maybe where the "help me" comes from)
The above is mainly what I was going off of when I thought of this theory, but there are some other miscellaneous notes as well.
Fydors 'ability' seems to kill through touch but the exact mechanics aren't really explained and its been so long (please asagiri we want to know). There are a lot of theories going around but I do like the one where it is some sort of judgement cause-and-effect death penalty. anyways.
If the actual Fydor and his ability is switched, I am curious as to how it plays out with his ideology of abilities being a sin that he seeks to erase from the world.
Now, onto really off the rails rambling that has almost no basis in canon, but just some cool theories that I have.
Assuming that the "Fydor" we see is actually "Crime and Punishment":
I am more inclined to believe that it was a conscious or at least meaningful decision to let "Crime and Punishment" take over, which could be for several reasons
first of all, his personality. Abilities do reflect the person, and Fydor seems to be someone who would gladly calculate and weigh his own death if it will bring enough benefits, and
given the age range, Fydor was probably fairly young but still around when the great ability war happened, which may contribute to their desire to eradicate abilities
given the nature of the ability, would it be interesting if original Fydor's ability granted him the ability to judge anyone who has committed more crimes than he has
but that wouldn't let him get too far, cause the road with good intentions is paved to hell, so maybe when "Crime and Punishment" takes over it becomes an inversion
and he can judge anyone who has committed less crimes than he has (which is a lot easier to control; he just has to ensure he is the only sinner around) and so he can instant-touch-kill almost anyone (save maybe Dazai actually, assuming there isn't the nullification that would be funny)
Well, thank you for reading my theory. First time posting, I really love bungou stray dogs and am looking to get into the fandom more, so I might post more (or lurk around).
Good day.
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lyloneliness · 2 months
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A lil Fyodor theory after chap 113 ✨
Hey! For those who already read the chapter 113 of bsd... Fyodor has a scar right? And I won't even bring back alllll the theories that explains he's alive and why on the table... But let's say Fyodor is immortal.
In the present he has the same face as in the untold origins and we're all on point to say he doesn't age. And if he died in Bram's castle, he probably revived in some kind of way right? But there are many kinds of immortals in fiction, and I think that Fyodor isn't the type that heals, at least not exactly. There are two possibilities I'd like to explore :
maybe reincarnate with a whole new body...
his body's 'time' just turns back* to a precise point : the point of his 'first' life (well he isn't dead but you get it) when he looked like he always do. The scar would just disappear as his body turns back to its 'reset point', and he'd certainly grow a new arm.
*For further detail on the logic of that, just search into Eri's power in MHA
As for what happens to the old body or the sectiones arm, we don't have any clues to figure that out yet.
But if the 2nd possibility is true, does that mean his mind too turns back to the reset point? Or does it just exist underneath as a checkpoint to 'when' the body should turn back? Either way, that would mean a part himself is still the way it was at that time.
But seeing Fyodor as we know him, I dont think he forgets what happened prior to his 'death'. Which implies that both state of mind coexist within him : the him from that point of his life, and the him from the present. Doesn't that remind you of something?
Yes. His ability.
He's much different from the Fyodor we're used to, and a lot of people's reaction when seeing him in chap 107 was "He looks so innocent! ". And that would make sense! I mean, it's his ability that brings him back to the checkpoint... So wouldn't it also be his ability's role to keep a trace of 'what' he's supposed to turn back into?
Thanks for reading!
PS: idk if some of you read or watch Undead Unluck, but it's kinda like Andy and Victor : the old one is brought back sometimes and the two of them coexist without getting along
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Random thought, if Dazai touched the holy sword that Bram was stabbed with, would it just turn into a guy?
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Since Solzvene was a person at one point and an ability turned thier corpse into metal, would Dazai touching it revert that and turn the sword into just meat and bones?
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noose-lion · 1 year
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The fact that Chuuya is Arahabaki but that's just further proof he's human.
According to Stormbringer Arahabaki isn't quite a true god, just an ability singularity running on the base thoughts and instincts of the user. Because only humans can have abilities, and its definitely an ability because No Longer Human works on it. Arahabaki is basically just an untethered Chuuya, a singularity he can turn on (and Dazai can turn off).
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nixnephili · 8 months
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"You've earned no favors yet." -NLH
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Ability structure/ anatomy:
-Abilities are made of energy. Both in Earth's dimension and in their own, the only difference being that their own dimension is adapted to their construction. That is to say, their state of existence is handled differently in each dimension.
On Earth:
-Abilities display their physical forms using Earth's atmosphere, light and gravity. They automatically adapt their own sense of gravity to the space they exist in, as they are not entirely physical on Earth.
They are physical enough for humans to come in direct contact with but not enough to be damaged.
As their forms on Earth are seen as variables, they have control over dematerializing and rematerializing at will from their human host.
Control and regulate the speed of their descent from a high jump. Which they can preform through temporary detachment from our gravity, as it does not bind their form energy.
-Abilities are bioluminescent. The level of energy / power coursing through them radiates to the exterior through glowing limb extremities most of the time.
Abilities can be damaged on Earth. Though only the physical form. As soon as the physical form sustains too much damage, the ability retreats to its current host and is on stand by from anywhere between hours and up to a month and more as they take the time to regenerate. Seeing as their physical form represents the extra energy the host body couldn't comprehend, the energy doesn't return inside the body, but it compacts itself and materializes into a small gem. (Much like we've seen in Dead Apple but they won't all be red).
-Nix🌙
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tinfoilhatsss · 1 year
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What does Dazai have to do with the Book?
Dazai has had connections to the Book in the past, implying that he knows or previously knew where it was being held. What is the Book, and why is it so detrimental to the storyline? 
The Book is a highly sought out supernatural item which can alter reality. It consists of many blank pages, and once written on, acts on said words. This has the ability to change reality as it is (Shown in the beginning of the arc where the ADA are suddenly the terrorists that they had perviously sought out to apprehend). The book is regarded as greater than abilities. This could allude to a higher being in play, as the creator of the Book is unknown. Could it be a singularity? Yes, but again, it is mentioned by Ranpo that it is too powerful to be an ability. 
Dazai, as seen in Beast (An alternate universe created where Dazai took over the Port Mafia), is completely aware of the multiple universes created through the book. This ‘Dazai’ from beast creates this universe through the infinite possibilities available to him. 
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My interpretation of this text excerpt is that original Dazai was in possession of the Book when he sought out an alternate universe where Oda lived. Original Dazai created Beast Dazai with his memories. Beast Dazai is a product of Dazai’s regrets and therefore behaves accordingly in connection to the original. They are essentially the same person through a completely different timeline. 
Though the wording of it is confusing- You can’t create an alternate world that you already live in unless you are from a different world originally. This could imply though that the world in Beast was identical to the original world until Beast Dazai stumbled upon the Book and diverged the course of the world from there, therefore splitting it. Feel free to correct me on any of this.
Either way, we know that it was most likely obtained from Yokohama (So it was at least there from the years that Dazai was 14 to current age). We also know that original Dazai has some sort of connection to the Book.  
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As we see in the image above from chapter 28, Fitzgerald mentions that the Book cannot be affected by any abilities. Though the book is resistant to all abilities, Dazai’s is the exception. Atsushi’s ability is rumoured to have a connection to the book, as well. This leaves there to be two possible options:
1. Dazai’s ability has the capacity to nullify the book, and therefore other supernatural creations that may or may not be limited to abilities, OR he is directly connected to the Book and such is able to interact with it. This makes me wonder, does his power play a much larger role in the plot of BSD? 
2. The Book is actually not resistant to all abilities, and thus there are abilities that share a connection to the book. These abilities would be considered exceptions. Fyodor’s ability also shows resistance to laws that abilities supposedly follow, shown in Beast where his manifested ability not only refuses to attack him, but appears sentient. This theory results in the idea that abilities aren’t a singular type of power; There are fundamental differences between different skills. 
Both options involve Dazai. I think Beast could very well become an important aspect to the storyline of BSD due to the fact that it is proof of what the Book is capable of. Are there other alternate universes created by the Book? 
This information comes from the BSD wiki, the manga panels and the BEAST light novel. I don’t really post analysis stuff, but also it’s fun to research and collect my thoughts, so yeah! Someone discuss bsd theories with me pls im dying nobody wants to talk with me about it
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mischiefb · 1 year
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So I've been seeing a lot of BSD theories out there and I wanted to share a thought I had with you all. What if Natsume ("I am a Cat" man) created the entire world via the book and had written Dazai as a character in it as well, BUT Dazai remembers the outside world. Remember, his ability is not to be affected by other abilities and to nullify other abilities. What if he has consciousness of the world before the book, of his life before being dragged into the book? What if him trying to kill himself over and over again is his attempt to try to escape the book? He could even be trying to escape it on a subconscious level... What do you guys think?
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