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blorb-el · 1 year
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out of context, extremely pure panels
wf 240, "how do you kill a superman?" 1976, script bob haney, pencils dick dillin, inks john calnan,
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nyhti · 1 year
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Awww, that’s so cute <33 Bruce teaching him martial arts.
Action Comics #318
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evilwickedme · 11 months
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This wasn't asked for because nobody in their right mind would ask for this but this is a fic rec list of fics I cannot stop rereading
Just started yet another reread of Inimitable Verse by deniigiq and I fully plan on rereading their into the multiverse series which occasionally crosses over also - this is a Spider-Man/team red focused series, think comics canon infused early mcu-spidey since only homecoming had come out for a non substantial amount of time they were working on the series and the daredevil stuff is explicitly tv show AND comics. Also the multiverse series is how I got into Murderdock and therefore how I got into Spider Gwen
Unpretty's Sorrowful And Immaculate Hearts series which is just a loosely interconnected series of DC fics. My personal favorites are Empty Graves, in which Martha Kent keeps killing time travelers trying to kill baby! Clark; any of their clois fics but especially Third Wheel; and Anti-Social, which is a social media fic mostly about Tim and Bruce that made me cry laughing. Catch Bruce trying to get Walmart's employees to unionize. Also shout out to unpretty's only fic with Jason in it, it looks awesome but is tragically incomplete
This particular Reverse Robin AU which put in the work to reverse every single younger generation and is chef's kiss I LOVE this version of Tim he's wild
Both of Shoalsea's fics are in constant rotation for me I talk about Into The Brighter Night all the time in the tags of reblogs and stuff it truly lives in my head rent free. Anyway Tim gets kidnapped by aliens and the batfam have to watch as yj98 saves him and it's angsty and funny and such a good take on what could have been if the new 52 hadn't happened. And Compassion Builds No House is about Tim and Pru from Red Robin. Ugh they're both so good
Speaking of Clois (I did you've just forgotten this by now) brilliant (like a confession) by kathkin (penny-anna on the hellsite) is so fucking good I'm. Okay. Anyway it'll be listed as inspiration if/when I finally post my two person love triangle fic for them
I'm too anxious to catch up on this before it's done but jumble sale chic is hands down the best spideydevil fic series despite and because of the omegaverse
Make A Little Birdhouse In Your Soul is my favorite take on Jason, period, and has a lot of fantastic Damian stuff going on too. It's updating every few weeks still! Sometimes more often! I love you bacondoughnut it's me JustGail the person who will not stop commenting on your fic you're stuck with me forever
I lied above Rumspringa Murderdock is what got me into Murderdock but that series is second place. I found this one while scrolling through the tv show's mattfoggy tag, thinking I was safe
Speaking of Murderdock mattfoggy, The Lawyer All the Wickedness was written early on in spider-gwen's history and so diverges from canon really early in ways that I think are super interesting and creative
Oh also straight on 'til morning by merils (Tumblr url mamawasatesttube) does SUCH a great job unpacking Kon's trauma and building up healthy relationships around him including a budding timkon romance and yeah it makes me sad and happy at the same time
We're getting into poisonivory territory so just trust if you like the pairing and poisonivory is writing it you'll like it. Ok rapidfire
Like A Handprint On My Heart mattfoggy soulmate au with a twist
Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow? Damijon future fic/au. Jon came back from the future when both of them were 19. Demisexual!Damian at its best. Damian's terrified of being abandoned by Jon again and it made my heart hurt
I feel like I've already recommended every JayRoy fic by poisonivory and genuinely I do reread them all, sometimes in order of publication if I'm in a particular mood. Maybe the one I've read most though is I've Got the Feeling You're the Right Thing After All which is about Roy and Jason starting a fwb thing while Roy still harbors old feelings for Dick. Can't see anything going wrong here lmao
Mmm this post is long enough so I'll leave it at just superhero fic for now but I do in fact have the ability to do a whole post just for the Witcher or Leverage so I might do that. Anyway thanks for following me on yet another burst of insanity it will happen again
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OKAY thoughts on justice league vs. teen titans
actually really enjoyed it a lot!
- so the big thing for damian here is his continued lack of respect for other people (lmao) and apparently his inability to work in a team? like, okay so the last few movies showed that he's cool working with bruce and dick + other members of the batfam pretty efficiently, and at the start of this he, like, specifically disobeys bruce (which is, like, Standard for robin lmao), which apparently means he doesn't work well in a team. Whatever. i don't think it was a super clean setup
- good move to cut the justice league down and keep the titans small
- this is an issue going back to justice league war but i REALLY dont like clarks characterization and the diana/clark romance is meh
- clark/diana/bruce have this one scene together (clark is mind controlled but still) that i really enjoyed it made me laugh because diana is like we have to stop him before he destroys the moon or something!! and bruce pauses and is like ... did he actually say he was going to do that LIKE SO CONCERNED LMAO
- so the Crux of damian in this movie is let's see him with Peers, as opposed to just the batfam (who are freaks let's be real). so whereas bruce/dick/adults will scold him or whatever, kids his age are gonna straight up be like Dude you are an asshole and we are Rejecting you
- OKAY it's funny because damian is an asshole initially to the other teens but!! he actually goes and apologizes to people pretty quickly so yay character development! but also jaime's scarab straight up BURNED half his face off which is pretty fucked up. we established in the last movie (kind of) that Dami is done with killing so even tho he was being an asshole that is still kind of the scarab's fault
- i love kori being a pta mom but i really wish they didn't sexualize kori so much. i know it's a general dc problem, but this only contributes to it. like you can give her a costume that pays homage to the original without being gross
- nightwing isn't in this which might have been because of scheduling or whatever but i'm like. fine with it because the story already works pretty well. we still have more movies to go and we've already had SOME dick and dami bonding content but i STILL WANT MORE!!!
- also nightwing just leaving his gf to babysit his brother like poor kori but also im glad that the bats apparently trust dami enough to leave him unattended (or just need a break lmao)
- beast boy/blue beetle are kind of here to be support so they're not really developed all that much.
- the main character here is split pretty evenly between raven and damian, and i know they do damirae later in the dcamu and i have to say i support it 100%. they initially bond bcus raven heals him, and their connection is really cool i must say
- OH also kori being raven's mom is cute lol
- ALSO giving cyborg a connection to the teen titans is cute
- damian's expressions are very cute in this his mask/lenses pop a lot more than usual
- when beast boy is like your mom DID IT with the devil??!! i was thinking the exact same thing
- oh FUCK HOW COULD I FORGET THE TITANS MAGICAL GIRLS TRANSFORMATIONS!!
- raven and damian are both very blunt and forward with people and went through a LOT of trauma but now they've found new families like brooo
- usually im whatever about raven's story because i'm not a Huge fan of magic stories, but i do like how the way raven defeated trigon was because of the love she had for her new home and family made her stronger like :')
- ALSO they did the thing at the end of the movie that i wanted in bad blood!! where ra's offers damian a chance to join him and damian rejects him and is like nah i'm a titan now like!!! my boy!!!!!!
- damian telling raven that home is where family has to take you :'))) my boy you've grown so much. DAMIAN KNOWS WHAT A HOME AND FAMILY IS NOW!!
overall, lots of development for damian, cool story, nice setup for the damirae relationship and nice intro for kori, and they did a better job at balancing the story than the last movie
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Okay so I'm halfway ish through dcs metal event reading and poor angy scared baby dami, firstly he's like 13 he's too young to be trying to fight this shit also earlier bruce let him drive a freakin tank through the rainforest!!!!! but anyway don't wanna give spoilers so I'm not gonna be specific but bruce is missing and the heroes are in this bar talking about what they should do literally everyone including nightwing votes against attempting to get to bruce (supes wants to go get bruce tho), damian does not take this well and straight up calls dick a b*stard and hits him up the head and dick is like I love you and bruce but that's not a good plan and clark being the angel he is says I'll find him kiddo and damian hugs him and just aww bless you clark anndd a couple of issues earlier damian gets trapped in a coffin lined with nails and hes trying to think of a way out and he remembered dick calling him hard headed so he freakin headbutts his way out hahaaa andd yeah side note the batman who laughs looks kinda dope and the dreamer guy yikes he's pretty
Ahhh confession I still haven’t read the full Dark Metal series(there are so many parts and tie ins too omg), tho I know all about it(I need to watch the comicstorian videos on it tho)tho I have read the follow upish/kinda tie in The Batman Who Laughs and HOLY CRAP THATS SOOO GOOD! He is SUCH a powerful villain omg. But anyway! You had me at bruce letting Damian drive a tank through the rainforest xD
That sounds stressful tho omg.(have you read the DCeased comics??! They are soo so good but oh. So. ANGSTY. Omg). Oh my gosh, Damian literally head butted has way out of a coffin cause dick called him hard headed I CANT OMG. That made my day lmao.
Have you read the Red Robin series? I’m currently finally reading that and omg I love my boy Tim so freaking much, he is such a relatable stressed mess, I love him. His constant inner monologue kills me omg
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It’s pride month so here’s my hc’s for the batfam regarding the lgbt community (heads up im bi and trans so i Project)
Bruce - straight, but Clark’s ass is a thing ya kno
Selina - bisexual, leans toward women mostly
Kate - canonically lesbian no need to hc
Dick - as long as they’re a redhead lmao (bicon tho)
Barbara - bi, leans towards men but has been known to obnoxiously flirt w Canary
Jason - doesn’t like to label himself, but also doesn’t really care who he sleeps w as long as they’re clean and aren’t going to kill him in his sleep
Tim - bi, leans more towards men, also trans
Stephanie - also doesn’t label herself sexuality wise, however she IS trans too
Cass - lesbian
Duke - kind of guy that doesn’t want to label himself Just In Case, since he’s technically still a kid and open to explore or be open-minded about things, but he’s only dated girls thus far
Harper - bi, no preference
Cullen - gay
Damian - gay
Terry - trans, also doesn’t care sexuality wise but mostly is attracted to women
Helena - bi, mostly attracted to women
Carrie - lesbian
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vellaphoria · 6 years
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ooh what are some of your injustice ideas? 👀👀
This got… long. So I put it beneath the cut :D
This is a bit about the comic and a bit about the game, so if there’s anyone who for any reason hasn’t looked much into either of them but still wants to do so and be surprised (maybe. imo plot’s pretty predictable) - spoiler warning.
Part speculation, part summary, mostly me rambling about nothing of import; aka the longest thing I’ve written that nobody will probably ever read.
Also, I use some terminology from TV tropes in this, so please bear with the strange lexicon!
tl;dr - good people making bad choices is my jam, but Injustice leaves a lot of gaps in character development that I might just have to fill with dubious, self-indulgent writing
Concept and Plot:
I’ve always been fascinated with the general clusterfuck of ‘protagonist’s journey to villain’ and ‘well-intentioned extremist,’ sorts of tropes - so the concept of Injustice really appeals to me on a storytelling level.
I think that the comic does this in a particularly interesting way through its use of the Injustice!League’s decision to stop adhering to the normal limitations of their morality. It presents a situation in which extreme actions seem reasonable but then give way to increasingly drastic measures, exploring (in my opinion) a plausible way that the current Justice League could become more like the autocratic Justice Lords seen in the JL animated series.
But I like Injustice a bit more than the straight Justice Lords concept because this version provides more in-universe moral contrast, mainly by making Batman stick stringently to his moral code - and not always for the better. With the Justice Lords concept, you see the unquestionably morally good Justice League come into contact with their authoritarian counterparts. This is well and good, but the animated series doesn’t show much of the slippery slope the League took to get to that point. To be fair, the Injustice game doesn’t do this either. But that’s why I really like the comic; watching motivational decay in action is one of my favorite things, possibly because I’m a bad person who likes watching good characters get put through the wringer and come out… not themselves.
While I’m like 90% sure that the comic is just a money-making excuse plot in order to explain why various JL members are punching each other in a fighting game, it’s also an exploration of similar-yet-contrasting moral codes, the limitations of power and responsibility, and some really, really fucked up situations.
The whole thing is extra cutting because both sides have good points. 
I do think that Clark is ultimately right: killing the Joker would save lives and, after years of keeping him alive/locked up in an easily-escapable facility, Bruce should really think about his level of culpability in the chaos and death that results every time the Joker escapes. However, Bruce also has a point (and it’s one that regime supporters like Barry do bring up, at least in the beginning): when does it stop? First, Clark kills a madman who, even only accounting for his recent atrocities, nuked an entire city by tricking Supes into murdering the love of his life (other than Bruce lmao) and making the bomb’s trigger go off when her heart stopped. Killing him in a fit of rage seems pretty understandable to me, even if the Joker’s fate should have been left to the courts to decide.
Things would have gone much differently had Clark taken a good look at what he’d just done, realized he was still reeling from his entire world being ripped away from him again, and sat down for some much-needed therapy.  
But, no. After moping in his arctic man cave for a while, Clark decides that this sort of pain is unacceptable and that no one should ever have to experience it again. Obviously the next step is using his considerable power to end a civil war so intractable that the countries of the world either cannot or will not take measures to actually stop it. That’s a little sketchier, but it’s still a good cause and still within the purview of saving lives.
But then he declares a global ceasefire. And then he bans protest and public gatherings. And then he decides he needs super soldiers to enforce said ceasefire. And then, seeing the relative efficiency of ‘peacekeeping’ in an autocracy, he starts working with Sinestro of all people.
And then Superman puts Earth behind him and within firing range because he knows the Corps won’t attack him if it would hurt civilians in the process. And then he kills a Guardian and an entire planet.
And then, and then, and then, and then eventually he’s using the criminals that the Regime is keeping locked up to murder Alfred for speaking against his methods and hiding his actions from the rest of the Regime.
Where does it stop?
According to Injustice, it doesn’t.
(As an American, this also resonates with me because I, too, am experiencing a slow slide into deeper and more obvious levels madness and fascism)
Characterization and Character Arcs:
Overall, Injustice has approximately three million characters and a lot of extraneous plot lines running around that I’m not particularly invested in. For example, I like Constantine, but I don’t really give a shite about his character arc in this.
What I do care about is the main body of the Justice League and how they adapt (or fail to adapt) to the new world order. For me, the most fun thing about Injustice is that it explores what happens when heroes go bad and the breaking points they have to reach to get there. To me, Clark is the most obvious example of this. The sheer amount of horrible things he has to go through would break anyone, and it’s honestly terrifying to see such an overpowered meta human decide that he’s the world’s judge, jury, and executioner.
But I’m a bit more interested in the other members of the League who end up following him down the slippery slope of character morality. Superman may be the ringleader and driving force of the plot, but there are also a lot of less-explored stories and moral dilemmas that formed around the League members just trying to stay afloat in his wake.
My main focuses here are the two regime leaders who end up on Batman’s side in the second game: Barry Allen and Hal Jordan. (to anyone reading this who’s familiar with my shipping preferences: shut up. I know.)
Since Barry actually ends up defecting mid-game in Injustice: Gods Among Us, it makes sense that we see signs of his moral dilemma early on. He isn’t sure about the regime. He sees the actions that other League members like Clark and Diana are taking and he’s appalled (i.e. Australia). In a Year 5 flashback (pun not intended) to the very beginning of Year 1, he tells Iris West that he’s explicitly only going along with this to try and keep Clark in check. Which… he doesn’t. Not even close.
He hangs on to almost the bitter end, but apparently his turning point is Clark murdering Billy Batson. Which, yeah, that’s horrible. But at that point in the Injustice!verse, he would have known beyond a shadow of a doubt that Clark had Alfred killed because he admitted as such. 
I generally chalk that one up to discontinuity resulting from the comics being finished a long time after the game actually came out, but still. There’s a lot of shit that goes down that Barry goes-drinking-with-his-rogues Allen overlooks before he calls it quits.
I would have liked to see more of an exploration of what’s going on in his head during all this. Sure, there are a few issues dedicated solely to Barry, but I wanted to really see him coping with ending up as close-to the only sane person in the League by the time the Injustice game happens. He spends a least a few months being captured/restrained/subjected to electroshock therapy by Harley Quinn and the rest of Batman’s rebellion. What happened while he was there? Did more people than just Harley have strange, one-sided conversations with him? Being restrained like he was for that length of time would have to be hell for a speedster, and I’d be surprised if he wasn’t on the edge of losing it. He spends another, similar amount of time waiting for his leg to heal after being broken by Doomsday, during which he apparently helps Lex Luthor design an entire prison. Given that Lex was working with Batman’s rebels and Flash would have been the most sympathetic member of the Regime, I wonder if Lex ever tried to lowkey manipulate Barry into flipping sides?
Long story short, there’s a lot of lost time and I spent a good deal of the Injustice comic wondering what the hell Barry was still doing with these nut jobs. Given that Clark was 100% /not/ telling the rest of the Regime what he was up to at any given point, it’s not unreasonable to assume that Barry was simply not aware of some of the Regime’s worse activities. But there are things he was absolutely aware of and his compliance in the later years of the Regime doesn’t come with the same excuse as, say, having been manipulated by Sinestro to wear one of his Corps’ rings to save someone yourself and your on-again-off-again love interest from falling to your deaths courtesy of the Guardians and your own stupidity.
Ladies, gentlemen, and individuals of indeterminate gender: Hal Jordan. 
To me, one of the more interesting plot lines is his journey from his normal brave, if headstrong, ‘greatest green lantern’ characterization to the yellow ring-wielding coward who both (in the game) tries to fight Barry to stop him from defecting but also immediately gives his ring up when confronted by the Good!Superman who comes through the inter-reality portal. This happens in the space of like ten in-game cutscenes.  
Like, dude. What are you doing?
Though that applies to a lot of what Hal does in the comics. He does not start as, by any means, the all-loving hero that Superman was. Hal Jordan is a dick. This is true in every universe. But it also takes conviction and a pretty rock-solid belief in doing the right thing for someone to wear a Green Lantern ring.
I thought that the way that Hal’s split in loyalties between the Corps and the Justice League was portrayed adequately, and, as the most obvious and vocal opponent to Sinestro’s influence over Clark, I felt that the way Hal was manipulated into thinking Sinestro had had a change of heart was well executed. As was the cold way he started treating Sinestro after Kilowog’s murder and after the his growing suspicion that Sinestro was complicit in allowing Zsasz to murder Alfred. Though I would have liked more exploration of what the hell had to be going on in his head while he was forced to work with the guy he had gotten kicked out of the Corps for… basically doing to Korugar what the Regime ends up doing to Earth.
I would’ve also liked to see Hal getting at least a little mad at Clark for killing Ollie, and a more in-depth look at the way that wearing a yellow ring non-stop affected his psyche.
But, when it comes to DC, if you want something done the way you want to see it, you have to do it yourself.
What I’d Read/Write Fic about:
I’m seriously considering committing to a short Halbarry series within the Injustice universe. There’s a lot of unexplored ground. Since Iris basically leaves Barry early in the Regime days and Hal’s situation with Carol can be interpreted ambiguously after the first conflict between the Corps and the Regime, I think it would be both fun and heartbreaking to write a scenario in which Hal and Barry do end up getting together… but while the Regime is ongoing. Preferably before Barry gets captured by Batman’s rebels and Hal becomes a Yellow Lantern. So I’d take all the cute UST potential they have and give it a resolution that gets promptly trampled all over by highly questionable life choices. Have Barry watch as Hal gets progressively more unstable with the Sinestro Corps’ ring’s influence (not to mention Sinestro’s influence). I really want to write a sort of Sinestro vs. Barry dialogue after Hal bridges the rift with Sinestro in the second Annual. That would be… explosive.
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Also, Tim fucking Drake. Injustice did him dirty by killing him off like that in the interquel comic, and I want Revenge. So, clearly the only option is to use my favorite dc retconning tool and have him resurrected via Lazarus Pit. If Injustice can legitimately turn Dick into the next Deadman, I can do whatever the hell I want.
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The Absolute Power ending of Injustice 2. It’s 100% probably already been done, but there is so much messed up Superbat potential inherent in Clark refusing to kill Bruce and instead fusing him with Braniac’s ship. 
So damn creepy.
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The Absolute Justice ending. There is a lot of potential for happy endings. Show me Bruce leaving the new League with Hal and Barry and having them train the new kids. Show me Dinah beating a post-redemption Hal within an inch of his life and then splitting an inadvisable amount of whiskey for old times’ sake. Show me Bruce breaking through to a Lazarus-crazy Tim and being Batman and Robin again because Dick’s dead, Jason’s not talking to him, and he disowned Damian. Actually, fuck it. Have Bruce and Damian make up. Maybe Jason too. Can we find a way to ret-con Dick being dead? Because that’d be nice.
Only the first of these things is even vaguely canon, but goddamnit the rest of them should be too.
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