#bad fanservice

[mzannthropy]

I absolutely agree that Camilly>>>> Daisybilly. Also Edmila. I'm just gonna pretend none of the cheating happen. Also, what do you think about fics that make Billy a bad father? I hate them lol. Billy was there for Julia's plays,soccer games, and to see her grow into an adult. You can tell he loved her.

(This got long...)

Thanks, it's good to see someone still cares about Billy x Camila! Tbh I've been thinking that I probably misunderstood the story, which is not unlike me with the way my mind works, but the thing is, I was only in it bc of Sam Claflin. I would never have had picked the book up if he hadn't been cast in the series. I barely care about real 70s bands, never mind fictional, and I didn't know anything about Fleetwood Mac (in fact I only started listening to them bc of DJATS and, funnily enough, I saw that 1997 performance on TV which they just happened to show at the time when the filming of DJATS was going on--but I didn't think anything of it. Don't those two hate each other?). That's my kind of longwinded way of saying that I had no idea I was supposed to ship Daisy and Billy, especially as I rooted for Camila right from the beginning. I'm also much older than majority of the fandom and have one failed marriage under my belt already, so I see things differently.

I think that Camila liked the rockstar side of Billy, hence why she was able to overlook some things (after all, this was the 70s), bc she knew he would always come home to her. Relationships are laundry and taxes, not omG tHE wAY thEY LooK aT eAcH OthEr on stage, but I guess that's not cool enough for the show. I'm not a fanfic person, actually, I read maybe about three a year (and that's only short ones) and with the exception of Jane Eyre, I don't write any (I prefer writing original). Occasionally I check AO3 for some particular piece of media or a ship, just to see what's there (in fact I did so twice in the last week, once for a particular pairing in a L.M. Montgomery book and once for all The Count of Monte Cristo fics, Sam's next project). I've never looked at any DJATS fics ever and I'd rather not know. So I didn't know there were fics that made Billy a bad father. I suppose people can write what they want, if they need to make Billy worse for their preferred ship to exist, well, they're free to do so, if it makes them happy. I loathe cheap, lazy plot devices and villainisation for the sake of making the protagonist look better, or making the reader/viewer care about the author's favourite pairing. I tend to feel the exact opposite of what the writer(s) want me to feel. So merely hearing about the Billy as bad father fics makes me hate them, lol.

It's not true, anyway. The show didn't exactly do Billy any favours with erasing the twins, bc in the book, he was with Camila while she was giving birth to them, holding her hand etc, in contrast to Julia's birth. But even so, we have some evidence of him being a better dad, like when he rang Camila while on the Aurora tour and wanted to hear Julia just sleeping. They could have done more and I suspect they really did, that there were more scenes that they eventually cut. Idk, but this picture just makes me think there must have been more. Who knows...

So while he may not have been the world's best dad, he was not a bad one either. After all, as I started saying lately, (about real people but it goes for fictional too), people can be more than one thing.

Saying that, Eddie gives me mild incel vibes. If Camila wanted to be with Eddie, she'd be with him. "I'd choose you over everyone" means nothing, it's just words. It was a bit of a lazy shortcut for Camila to cheat with him, but that's just one of the show's sins. They gave Camila a creative profession and then did a fuck all with it, like why couldn't she have connected with a fellow photographer? Like that dude she talked to in the dark room or whoever it was.

I wonder if soon we'll start seeing articles on Screen Rant et al about how "wrong we were to ship Billy and Daisy and how emotional affairs ruin the lives of everyone around them" or something similar. More likely, though, the show will fade into obscurity which I will honestly be thankful for. I'm glad that Sam got what he needed out of it (he talked about it in interviews) and I'm glad Camila got some recognition, she just won a breakthrough award at Critics Choice and I'm glad Suki and the others got to be in it and the songs are good, and I wish them well, and I wish the writers a very hope your pens break and drafts get deleted and I hope Hello Sunshine burns down.

#billy dunne #billy x camila #camila dunne #answered #bad writing #bad fanservice

[archangelimpregnator]

if there isnt a Gabriel Ultrakill upskirt moment in Act 3 what even is the fucking point

#sorry but .... have you seen that skirt? i believe in fanservice equality and i need to see that mans upper thighs! #suggestive my bad #gabriel ultrakill #ultrakill

[natjennie]

the tiny consistencies in fantasy high make me so happy like. fabian's throwaway line in sophomore year about riz always picking up immediately and then riz answering his facetime instantly in junior year. "I don't eat worms!" from freshman year. fig always destroying her crystal when anything goes wrong. like. they're so.

#sure sure our beautiful callbacks their wretched fanservice #but like. i just love the bad kids a lot okay. #fhjy #d20 #dimension 20 #fantasy high

[andy-clutterbuck]

4x02 | Infected

#v necessary #Rick Grimes #* #rg #S4 #a+ fanservice #i had to google who wrote this episode lol thanks angela #it was nice when on the rare occasion it was showcased that you know man is hot #sorry you were having a really bad day tho babe #H A N D S #FARMER DADDY #excuse me but the nose™ #*dramatically takes off and burns shirt* #it'sart.gif #THAT ARM VEIN THO #irrigate my crops farmer rick #also his arm hair but i'm not gonna be that weird right now #even his armp- nevermind #........just drink your wine #me @ me: 🔇 #happy sinday 💚

[mahealinskis]

The 5 times Jihoon had his heart broken for being a gay idol in a homophobic and hypocritical industry

#onlyoneof #bump up business #bl series #bl drama #korean bl #kdrama #kdramagifs #korean drama #kpop #onlyoneof nine #onlyoneof mill #onlyoneof kb #lee yongsoo #jung wookjin #shin kyubin #i have so much to say about this honestly #i feel so bad for him #he has to do fanservice to the same public that won't accept him if he ever come out #imagine how many idols are there just like him #wookjin #yongsoo

[cloud-ya]

y'know, mihoyo should consider giving pants to other characters than fu hua. and I don't mean shorts

#they should in general stop thinking with their dicks and consider covering characters more #because clothes covering body fully can be sexy too! if they're so down bad for fanservice #also hov if she was sankta in arknights #honkai impact #kiana kaslana #herrscher of the void

[hehehereliesmysanity]

Smart of Wille to wear sunglasses because Simon’s smile is so blinding. ☀️

#If you ever think this is fanservice #kindly shut up and go watch season 2 again #or say it is from fanfiction like it is a bad thing #i was talking to my parents on the phone when i saw this and i tried so hard not to scream #i am actually thinking about taking that sick leave lol #young royals #wilmon #yr s3 spoilers

[liquidstar]

objectively hilarious that vivinos's youtube channel is basically build on yuri horror/angst content (its basically almost always two girls killing or dying in the most fucked up ways possible) but the first time a video centered on guys is made (cherry bitch club) its literally just fanservice. yeah flip those conventions LOL

#bc usually the guys get to be the hashtag deep angsty ones (esp in fandom shit) and girls are cutsie yuri fanservice and such #obvs more have come out since though. that are actually serious and fucked up. bc of alien stage #and some horror stuff happens in cherry bitch club too but mostly just hitting the same plotbeats as pink bitch club. but hornier #so. its fanservice. which is not a bad thing #its not for me personally obvs but i do have to give it props for subverting expectations so heavily #but im still the biggest fan of the fucked up tragic yuri <3 beloved is my favorite i think #as far as one off videos go i mean. you all know i have alien stage brainrot

[zer0point5ive]

them hiring a whole actor to play adams dead and rotting corpse in saw x purely for fan service is still very funny to me. and real !

#ohhh ? you want to see adam ? you want to see himso bad dont you. guess which stage of decay he is in #i love fanservice when i am the fan. being serviced yippeethank you #saw bathroom is like a lovely nd cozy home to me #i almost forgive them for putting that man in at the end. Almost ! #📹

[denkies]

Some of yall do not know the difference between "media that glorifies Bad Thing" and "media that portrays Bad Thing and the audience has to use critical thinking skills" and its actually concerning

#for a bunch of ''burnt out gifted kids 🥺'' yall don't use those gifts of critical thinking much huh #media that contains uncomfortable topics (especially horror) is not glorifying said topic by default #killing stalking is the first example that comes to my head. it was just a horror series that had gay people. #wasnt glorifying the horrors at all. in fact it actually portrays the horrors as Bad and Not Okay At All #seeing our mc rationalizing the behaviours of his abuser due to stockholm syndrome is upsetting to us as the audience. #and yall were like ''it glorifies abuse and murder 🥺🥺🥺'' no babygirl. it contains abuse and murder as a subject. #you are just incapable of critical thought and you assume the portrayal of any subject is glorification. touch grass. #thats like watching hannibal and being like ''this show glorifies cannibalism 🥺'' it very much is not. #there was also the manga Star Lover that y'all were canceling for ''glorifying pedophilia'' and when you read it it's about A VICTIM OF CSA #like its literally about a character who is sexually abused by her uncle and this is an integral part to the story. its not fanservice. #sometimes media is created with the belief that the audience has the ability to think for themselves #and therefore should not have to a Explicitly State "hey this morally bankrupt concept is bad!'' #because you should be able to come to that conclusion on your own <3 #media consumption #a.txt #media and information literacy #media analysis

[mzannthropy]

Gods know I don't want to talk about that show anymore, I'm tired of being tired of it, and others have already said the same. But I'll say it anyway, just for the sake of getting it off my chest. Yes, they should have shown us more of Billy and Camila's life post-band. Sigh... here we go again.

Either there should have been more kids (like, you know, they had in the book, which this is supposed to be an adaptation of, and like, you know, they discussed and agreed upon just an episode ago (and trust, me coming from me, arguing in favour of a couple having kids means A LOT)) or Camila should have had success with her photography, with Billy supporting her.

Like, okay, if for whatever reason the children couldn't be the twin girls, maybe a younger brother for Julia? What I liked about the book most was the different paths the female characters chose for themselves: Camila being a wife and mother, Karen going for the single and childfree life and Daisy adopting. You think I care about some stupid random line from a song? No, it's the characters, the female characters that matter most to me.

Or we could have had Camila's career as a photographer. As the wife of Billy Dunne, she's able to make connections as a celebrity photographer, but feels unfulfilled, so she switches to her maiden name and starts doing landscapes instead. One anniversary, Billy takes her to some place where she's always wanted to visit, like idk, Mauritius... or Madagascar and she takes beautiful shots and releases a photobook. Camila being a photographer was one of the best changes from the book (together with Simone's story and Teddy living longer).

And it would have been so simple to do! No more than a couple of lines of dialogue. Even if they went for the more kids option. Julia's sibling(s) didn't have to participate in the documentary. Just mention that they're studying or working some place else. No extras needed. It's not that hard. But, of course, that would require the writers not to be obsessed with their pet ship and/or with pandering to the shippers of said pet ship.

It's The Other Ship that has crumbs. Not Camila and Billy. They didn't appear in episode 7. Daisy was away in Greece. There could have been many, many sweet moments. In fact there WERE many sweet moments. Disneyland, a trip to the beach. They just didn't show it. Because Sam and Camila were so powerful together that if they did show it, their precious fanfic project would have made no sense.

#billy dunne #camila dunne #billy x camila #julia dunne #bad writing #bad fanservice #getting more bitchy these days #i'm a middle aged woman. i'm allowed #mypost

[milkbreadtoast]

This is a lie actually I love Jung Yeseo in all his forms💛💜🤎 and I love Jesse Venetiaan too🥹... (but still..... 😔🫰🤎🐰)

#jung yeseo #jesse venetiaan #twsb #when the third wheel strikes back #shitpost #its true that i love yeseo in all his forms #and i love jesse's design + yeseo as jesse #(i like his palette a lot esp the purple... purple and yellow belong to him now #i love the og jesse too (thinking abt him makes me sad...) #but still.... i cant be the only one who has it bad for brown haired jung yeseo specifically #like i want to draw jesse he's pretty but #fsr i have the urge to draw jung yeseo like CONSTANTLY. #made this shitpost bc the thought is funny to me #me: biases the ''boring'' brownhaired 모태솔로 just some guy over his flashy prince form #also sidenote that first panel is so fucking funny to me OWYRJSGDJSS #DONT SHOW ME JESSES CHEST... IM CACKLING #HE HAS NO CHEST!!! shows me ce- *arrested and dragged away to the imperial prison* #gasping and wheezing for air its so funny... PFFFFTT #atp the webtoon artist has shown more fanservice of jesse than any other chara and that is so funny to me. theyre so unserious #im begging the webtoon artist to draw brown haired yeseo in his cardigan just one more time. just one more time i beg y #i wish they kept his comma bangs sidepart from the webnovel too... #my theory is that would have made him too handsome in 해그늘님’s artstyle and too many ppl would simp for him #so they had to nerf him to preserve his just some guy image #they were like on second thought its ooc for jung yeseo to know how to style his hair... just give him a bowlcut #(but he still looks gorgeous anyway) #but still... i would like to see it... but its ok. i'll just draw him instead KFJKSJS #see this is why i keep drawing him

[nvzblgrrl]

Just saying, but anyone who says that they're watching the Doctor Who TV Movie for the plot is just as convincing as someone who says they read Playboy for the articles.

#doctor who #eighth doctor #doctor who tv movie #like sure i watched it online just to see it but do you think I bought the DVD for reasons other than Higher Quality Paul McGann fanservice #it was not #this is also why i will be buying the blu-ray when it eventually manifests #like i have a whole folder of images and gifs of Paul McGann for no other reason than He's Attractive #if not for Paul being pretty and Grace having an interesting concept that movie would be so much of a nothingburger #and that's still better than the bible they put together trying to get a potential series out of it! absolutely Bad #I will say this - I have seen Paul in worse movies than the Doctor Who TV Movie. that much can be said

[elbiotipo]

Stupid post made after a couple mates but people who complain way too much and vaguely about "fanservice in anime" just reveal to me how strict US media is regarding about sexual things. Your average Latin American or European movie has at least two nude or sex scenes (of all kinds, depending on the movie), it's almost expected. Same with sexual jokes or references and the like. Meanwhile, and I'm far from the only one to observe this, violence has little to no barriers in US media, but even the subtlest sexual reference if it makes out the censors gets discussed to no end.

And I'm going to be a bit more controversial here and say that many people complain about fanservice in manga and anime when 1) manga and anime are much like, or more like precisely, comics or animation, they are mediums with several genres in them and 2) people who complain about juvenile fanservice often forget that those works are precisely aimed to an audience who loves juveline fanservice. What do you think "shonen" means?

I was a dumb kid and teen too, and the kind of fanservice or jokes you can find in animu are tame compared to the kind of jokes and talks I had with people my age or older. There's always a debate about sexualization and misoginistic depictions, but let's not pretend that young people aren't aware about that kind of stuff or that it even should remain hidden under locks (if you try, they'll find out anyways). What I mean here is that some people seem scandalized about dirty jokes or someone drawn a little bit too sexy when this is not an uncommon or unknown experience. We all eventually have experiences with that kind of stuff during our lives.

It's also a bit hypocrital to single out Japan about this especially since the real explicit stuff is aimed at adults specifically, because again, manga and anime are mediums, not genres. Especially that, despite what I've said at the beginning, TV and series on Netflix and the like seem very comfortable in portraying live action high-school settings with lots of sexualization lately. In a way, I think showing the kind of "perfect" body types and social expectations in a live-action series is a bit more concerning that fantasy fanservice.

Anyways, this is just a pointless rant, and I'm far from the first person to point this out. I'm just saying that it's very silly when I found out that people were warning about the sexual bits on Chainsaw Man, a series with perhaps some of the most violent gore you can find in mainstream manga today (and neither thing detracts from its quality, or lack of it, I personally think it's a great series)

#cosas mias #just to be clear in my personal experience fanservice does little to me #and while I enjoy anime and manga of course as I've grown older I've stopped finding high-school settings relatable #when there's a lot of quality stuff aimed at adults #not that watching stuff for younger people is bad but if you're complaining about juvenile jokes and fanservice #it's perhaps because you're watching the juvenile jokes and fanservice series

[theprinceandthewitch]

Honestly, I'm never really going to get over how the writers use Luz lying to her literal girlfriend as plot convenience. They really think that little hug at the end of Eclipse Lake fixes Amity's insecurities surrounding her relationship with Luz. Even though Luz shows her time and time again that she doesn't trust her enough to be honest with how she feels lmao.

#toh critical #“but offscreen” - literally doesnt matter because what happens off screen doesnt exist #I legit dont give a single fuck abt whatever little headcanon you have on how their relationship operates off screen because the onscreen #shit is what actually matters - which shows Luz being a bad girlfriend to Amity lol #I would say Huntlow is worse because its legit fanservice and doesnt make any fucking sense for Hunter's arc #But honestly theyre both on the same boat but for different reasons

[brsb4hls]

Oh look, here's why season 2 sucks:

#good omens 2 #good omens critical #I mean as if it wasn't blatantly obvious that there is absolutely nothing even remotely Pratchett-y in that season #that's exactly what is missing #it's just Gaiman writing a bunch of fanservice #for whatever reason #'instant gratification' maybe #see what I did there? #authors should stay clear of fanservice honestly #maybe even fandom as a whole #it's obviously bad for the creative process #why even shoehorn that 'bridge' in? #could have just made one sequel with Pratchett's ideas included #and publish your fanfic as an unused script #ah I'm still not over it #this will take a while