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bthehufflepuff208 · 2 years
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America Chavez punching Wanda in the face:
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ackerslut · 1 year
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no but listen i am constantly thinking about the mcu and other franchises like star wars and dc have tried to replicated their cinematic universe and i think the problem is that these big budget movies aren't willing to commit to the concept of a stand alone film. the entire reason avengers (2012) actually works is because all of the movies beforehand were complete stand alone action flicks that tied into the same universe only by a few end credit scenes and the fact that SHIELD was at least mentioned in each movie. when you go over to the DCEU they're trying so hard to get to the justice league and they haven't even made a batman movie yet!!!
i also think this is why the mcu started sucking after age of ultron because they stopped making stand alone movies and instead made a cinematic experience where you had to go to antman: 17 revenge of the cockroaches just so you could see an ensemble movie where deadpool crosses the multiverse to find spiderman's girlfriend for an ocean's 11 team up with moon knight
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strangely-a-mcu-fan · 2 years
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The Wanda stans are already getting mad when it only seems that the MCU finally took a look back and realized what this character always was and how she had to turn out for her to make sense.
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sukibenders · 2 years
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Random person: Wanda was justified in all her actions, like attacking/harming America and Co, because it was for her children!
Me: Okay, since you want to go that route- why didn't she just ask, you know verbally and all, America to send her to a universe where her kids are orphans? Like...wouldn't that make more sense than killing a bunch of innocent people, and trying to justify killing America just because she's has powers even though she is a kid too?
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Something here is a lie. 😂🤨
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Okay, starting with the last one. Both Waldron and Raimi admitted they never watched WandaVision and they were both very clear they didn't know what had happened in the series except for the post-credit scene. It's likely one or both of them might have backtracked from that though, like Waldron did after he let it slip he hadn't watched Thor or The Avengers prior to writing the Loki series.
And I find it hard to believe he didn't know about NWH because Defender Strange says word for word the exact same line Stephen says to Peter in the movie (albeit in that movie it's clear he's referencing his time on Titan but in MoM that line lacks any depth since it's Defender the one saying it).
The scene of Wanda with Black Bolt is the perfect example of something that sounds cool and looks cool but 1) it's not explained, 2) it's a god-level power that Wanda shows once but never again in the movie, 3) Wanda goes from that to having a kid hit her and she stumbles and falls. Is that scene where she says "what mouth?" a great one? Holy shit, it's awesome. So badass. But it's there for shock value, nothing more.
So the original pitch was to literally show Wanda's corruption on-screen as part of the story, but Raimi chose to "bring that good stuff forward" where her corruption happens off-screen? How is that a good idea? If we had seen her going darker and darker during the movie it would have been a fantastic story, especially heartbreaking post-WandaVision, and it would have given time to Stephen to get to know her and befriend her so that their final fight would mean something.
Also, going back to the first point... why the "scripts" for WandaVision? All the episodes were available at the time Waldron was writing MoM, they delayed the movie 3 times. He didn't need the scripts, he could have watched the episodes. The longest ep is 46 minutes long.
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wanderingmind867 · 3 months
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You know, the Original Defenders vs the Original Avengers have one thing in common: The Hulk. Only difference is: Hulk stayed with the Defenders. He never stayed with the Avengers. But even besides that, I just prefer the original Defenders. The Hulk? Namor? Silver Surfer? Doctor Strange? (She was added later, but) Valkyrie? Those are all such cool characters. They're all very fun!
But the Avengers original lineup is nowhere near as good. I mean, Iron Man? The guy whose comics were regularly about this rich industrialist battling the filthy commies? He's just not very fun to read about in the early days. And I can accept some cold war stuff, but his stories are so blatant! He's rich and he even once best a villian by tricking them into defecting (with the crimson dynamo). He's not great. And I mean, Ant-Man/Giant-Man is okay (if maybe a tiny bit dull on his own sometimes). I mean, Thor is the only original Avenger I really like. So the Defenders win by virtue of having more characters I like.
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ambafaerie · 2 years
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America Chavez punching whitewashed MCU Wanda several times in the face
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I love the roller coaster that phase 4 is.
want some entertainment? we got what if and hawkeye (I guess Thor 4 too but I won't watch it until it comes to Disney+)
something that has heavy shit? moon knight and black widow
legitimately good shit? ms. marvel and shang chi.
utter shit that makes you regret liking the MCU at all? loki and doctor strange 2
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cogentranting · 2 years
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Actually you know what, the more I think about it the more I really hate what this movie did with Wanda. I don’t know how you square this choice with what Wandavision was. Yes it technically makes sense in a plot sense-- because Darkhold-- but at it’s core Wandavision wants you to end sympathetic toward Wanda. You’re supposed to care about Wanda. It’s about her grief and ends with some hope of healing for her. 
And so to follow it up with this is incomprehensible to me. 
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thetimelordbatgirl · 2 years
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I think the writers just realized how popular Into the Spider-Verse was, so they thought if they made Wanda have the same motivationn as Kingpin, she'd be just as popular. Of course, they forgot that unlike Wanda, the family Kingpin lost wasn't a figment of his imagination, and therefore, isn't as crazy.
That and Kingpin is already an established villain who any marvel fan entering will know off or if its new fans watching Spiderverse, the film does a pretty good job setting him up as a villain. Like, that sequence with the clicking pen as we see the flashbacks before at the crash, the pen finally breaks??? *chiefs kiss* Send my compliments to the writers and animators, it was sooo good. And like, as much as Miles' Peters death isn't you know, bloody and shit, it's still impactful. We've never seen Peter be killed in a movie or show before....well, outside of Infinity War but....we...we don't talk about Infinity War, but like, its impactful to anyone to see Peter off all heroes be killed and....actually be gone. In MoM??? The deaths are all over the place, and most of them are just stupid. I can't tell if Miss America's moms are dead cause apparently they were only teleported due to....kid America getting scared by a bee.....only in the MCU will you get origins like this. But like, most of the deaths seem to be just MCU going, "SEE WE CAN GET VIOLENT WITH DEATHS-" but....like....its just eh. Avengers 2012 actually made you feel bad when Phil was suddenly killed by Loki. What do I feel when Wanda kills Mr. Fantastic, Black Bolt, Captain Carter and Maria Rambeau are killed? That I would like to scream cause multiverses smartest minds and they revealed their secret weapon for Wanda to kill with ease.....that and Wanda has a racism problem and it being almost disturbing she killed a Maria variant after hurting Monica in Wandavision, who was still mourning her mom in that universe. Though did kind of feel like shit with Xavier's....just because I am a x-men fan, so learning he goes out like that....it makes me want to scream cause the disrespect to Patrick Stewart and his take on Charles Xavier.... And only reason I felt bad for Sara dying is....cause yeah, she was at least established as a character....but of course, the Racist Witch has to throw a tantrum when precious book is destroyed and burn Sara alive, making me wonder if MCU is doing this on purpose with Wanda at this rate.
But yeah, Kingpin at least makes sense....because his family was VERY much real....but Wanda's literally were the result of her playing Barbie but with real life people and she KNOWS they won't real, and yet, she still wants to go and steal another her's kids cause....maybe trying to have Tommy and Billy for real wasn't a option? Like, Wanda in this film makes zero sense for motivations and its really a sign that they just wanted to do villain Wanda without trying.
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wenellyb · 2 years
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My official review of Doctor Strange in the MOM is the same review I have for every MCU movie: Not enough Sam Wilson.
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crazypantsjewels · 2 years
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So W*nda’s a villain huh?
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azurecanary · 2 years
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The amount of "America is Strange's daughter" stuff I see in the America Chavez tag makes me want to commit war crimes.
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angelofmusings · 2 years
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doctor strange: multiverse of madness (2022) really appeals to both types of lesbians: “omg lesbians being allowed to exist without it being a major plot point, or them being killed off entirely!” and “hrghrgnghrhh hot, powerful, morally questionable female antagonist torturing intelligent, comparatively naive, young female protagonist”
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ljones41 · 2 years
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Fuck you Marvel Cinematic Universe.  I just saw the second “Doctor Strange” movie.   And once again . . . fuck you Kevin Feige!  That’s it.  It’s bad enough that the DCEU had disappointed me in the end.  And now, it’s the fucking MCU.  I through with this comic book hero shit.
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pinktwingirl · 2 years
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Hey guys my sister and I did a more thorough review of Multiverse of Madness if you want to check it out
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