someone told me because I ship byler I must hate eleven and i just wanna speak on behalf of all bylers because wdym thats literally my daughter??
this is an eleven appreciation post
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I just remembered something hilarious that happened a while back. I was arguing with a milkvan about how the phone calls Mike was making to the Byers were for Will and not El bc they couldn’t communicate as a result of government surveillance after the mall fire and Owen’s being removed from the program officially, and they basically insisted El’s anonymity was not an issue in s4, so Mike could call her, which meant to them that when Dustin said Mike was always whining, he was referring to Mike not being able to reach El. I followed that up with, well then why does El have a shrine of Mike in her room, but there isn’t a trace of El anywhere in Mike’s room or basement or house in general (besides the crumpled up letter)? And you can’t say it’s to keep up the front that she doesn’t exist for her safety, bc according to y’all that wasn’t an issue and the Wheeler’s know all about El… so… again the point stands, why do we get this contrast of El having a Mike shrine and Mike having absolutely nothing connecting to El in his space? As you can probably predict, it was crickets after that 🤣😭
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Okay listen, I love Ahsoka. Okay? I love her.
I know there's no way she could have stayed on Coruscant after Order 66. But the fact that it's Rex and Echo and Riyo working together to save the clones and she's just out there laying low, out of contact, done with the fighting, etc...it just seems so out of character to me. Hell, Trace and Raffa have contributed more at this point!
Ahsoka, who wouldn't even kill the clones who were actively hunting her (on three separate occasions). Ahsoka, who risked everything to save Rex's life. Ahsoka, who always had a closer relationship to the boys than any other Jedi. Ahsoka, who had told Rex that he was her best friend...just ups and leaves and eventually "loses contact" with him for years and then sends Kanan and co. with a loose lead and a tactical droid to find him?
I know she was traumatized by what happened with the Jedi. I know she was burned out. And I've read some good fanfiction that did a better job of explaining this than anything in the novel or the show. But honestly, I'm still just so perplexed that it happened at all.
She should have stayed in contact with Rex. She should have been helping with the effort to rescue Wolffe and the men, even if she couldn't be on Coruscant. She should have been using the Force to help locate and remove their chips, as she did with Rex. She should have been helping them find places to lay low so they wouldn't get caught. She had so many things to say about how the Jedi and the government were failing the citizens of the Republic, but when those men - her brothers in arms for almost 4 years - needed her most, she did nothing.
When Rex told Echo that "good help was hard to come by" and Echo hung his head and decided to leave his brothers and sister to go where he was needed, I just couldn't help but think that she should have been a part of that too. Fives gave his life to try and free the clones from their inhibitor chips. Echo is continuing the work his brother died for. Ahsoka only knew to save Rex at all because of two words: "Find Fives". She got off that ship alive because of Rex. But when Rex needed her most, for a mission of his own choosing, she wasn't there.
Hear me on this, I'm not hating on her character. I just felt that this particular writing choice for her was way off base. The Ahsoka I know wouldn't have abandoned her brothers, especially after she had just buried so many of them wearing *her* face on their helmets because she meant the world to them.
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oooohhh, you’re onto something there. I feel like if Demian is Enoch, Carmen is definitely going to have some sort of role in it. Because Enoch’s death is what broke Carmen and made her attempt suicide. So maybe she feels so guilty about that she gave him a second chance?
Oh, for sure absolutely Carmen has a hand in it.
And yeah, maybe! I'm not Carmen's biggest fan, and I've always been a little...suspicious about how convenient it was that she had a conversation with Ayin about "oh if something bad happens to someone because of me, i wouldn't be able to handle it :C but you could! you promise if anything happens to me you'll finish what i started right?" like...right before enoch died and lisa said what she did.
Like, I won't say she isn't 100% sincere with her desire to make the world a better place - because we know she is - and that Enoch's death didn't hurt her (it def did), because I don't think she's evil, but like...the timing and specificity of that conversation (Day 49 flashback, if you want to go look it up) really just...bugs me. (Personally I think she knew it was coming, and knew it would hurt her and what it would drive her to do, and let it happen because she also knew what Ayin would end up doing with her body once she made sure to get that favor from him, and that's what she wanted, to sacrifice herself for the project and her dream-- until, like she says in Ruina, she realized Wait No at the last second and, well. Now she's The Voice and REALLY going for it with her dream no matter the cost others pay or the terrible means to her ideal end.)
BUT THIS ISN'T ABOUT CARMEN THIS IS ABOUT ENOCH. And yeah, honestly, I can see her giving him a second chance both out of sincere guilt for his death and knowing Enoch for who he once was kind of assuming he'll be totally onboard with what she's up to now. A gift he didn't entirely want, but that she thought he did/would, similar to the Distortions.
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