Whats ur interpretation of heaven and its people in ULTRAKILL?
oooooo interesting question!! this is definitely gonna be long-winded even by my standards bc i'm about to speculate on a LOT so let's talk about it!!!
ok so there's a couple things that we seem to have laid out in the lore to start with, and that's largely the division that exists between true angels and their previously human counterparts. true angels look down on those derived from humans, seeming disinterested in god's experimentation and almost wanting to segregate themselves from them, while the human-based angels seem to revere true angels and follow the orders they give to them. the only rankings known to exist in ultrakill at this time (act ii) are archangels and virtues - theologically speaking, archangels exist as the second to lowest choir while virtues rank right in the middle BUT that's clearly not the case here as virtues come from human souls and gabriel clearly has the power to direct them. this could be for a couple reasons: ultrakill may follow the precedent set by paradise lost, which places archangels at the top of the angelic hierarchy, or "archangel" is a title conferred to gabriel, but not his actual "species". this comes from the idea of some texts that the four archangels are not true archangels but are in fact of a much higher rank, such as cherubim, that are denoted with the title to reference their leadership role amongst the angels. this is the idea i tend to favor in this case, as i don't believe gabriel is at the top of the hierarchy given his loyalty to the council, but i also believe he must be quite high up due to his power and respect.
i will say i don't think my interpretation is anything too different from anyone else's or many other pieces of media that examine heaven as less than perfect, but i believe these hierarchies are IMMENSELY important. the reason gabriel carries out his orders so diligently despite obviously being much more powerful and beloved than the councilors is simply because at least some of them rank over him - he is a being made to serve and if they are those that speak in god's place, he will do as they say just the same. the council, for their part, i think both used his strength and good will to bolster their decisions while frankly just. kind of hating him for the massive respect he garnered from the citizens in heaven. i tend to think this popularity stems from the fact that he interacted often with humans - he is always the messenger angel sent to earth and in some way, he's built a rapport with humanity. it goes both ways too, in that gabriel doesn't believe in segregation the way other true angels do and often interacts with human souls in heaven (i, like everyone else, believes he is particularly kind with children and he enjoys spending time with them when he has a chance to rest...i like them all looking like little lambs ;o;) this extends even further into his borderline heretical treatment of the sinners in hell - he's not nearly so harsh in his heart of hearts on their wrongs when they are remorseful or when their crimes truly weren't so terrible. but this is the inherent part of gabriel's tragedy - his sympathy and softness towards them is always overridden by his orders, and so this is why i believe even though he was always capable of overthrowing the council, he never did. orders are absolute to him, and his personal feelings never factor into the violence he carries out.
all of this culminates in how he is treated by the council - his power and popularity do a lot to further their ends, how efficiently he builds their empire on his back and how much the citizenry happily support anything gabriel does, but it's likely that they were looking for a way to get rid of him by the time the game happens. he is too powerful, he is too sympathetic to humanity, and i believe it was widely rumored in those higher circles that gabriel had unnatural tendencies toward the damned, though the proof may not have existed. they really honestly all believe that his role of messenger led him to be too close, too involved with the humans they so look down on.
i know i'm not the first person to suggest the idea (and here's where things get REALLY speculative hhh), but i too think the council was ready to dispose of gabriel now that their rule in heaven was absolute. i think it began with making him the judge of hell at a time when hell was becoming entirely unmanageable - not only does the council likely care little for hell and only wish to maintain its upkeep for its own sake or perhaps to uphold the idea that they still follow god's will, but it's also a mammoth task to regain control over it now that it's so far gone. and they send gabriel. perhaps they believed he was the only one who was capable of cleaning up that mess, but the move seems political, like a way to invent a failure for him. because failure is a death knell for angels, one that incurs heavy punishment as you are meant to be perfect in all you do. so gabriel was given a hell now run by its sinners, and so many there are, with planned insurrections and an entire layer flooded, he was sent with some lower angels to attempt an impossible effort. and he managed it. i'm positive he ran himself ragged doing it, committed a multitude of his own sins in the process, but he reinstated god's will to the extent that any of them can. so he didn't fail, but he's getting tired. and then the machines come, v1 comes, and gabriel is sent to deal with that because the whole of hell is seemingly only his business now. all he needs to do is fail and the council will be justified in their decision to rip the light from his body. because honestly, if it's not political, that would be a BONKERS move on their part given how gabriel seemed to single-handedly deal with the hell problem before all of this. they have an agenda and gabriel accepts it too, coming to them meek and ashamed after losing his fight, doing nothing to stop them as they tear the light from him and his anger is directed entirely toward v1, not the council. he's too obedient to think otherwise.
sorry for carrying on a lot more specifically about gabriel and the council, BUT that's mostly what i can say while sticking somewhat within the confines of canon. overall though, i think it's a strict and segregated place - the human souls are in paradise, but they very rarely see true angels other than gabriel since god disappeared. for their part, they are maintaining after the fall of man, believing in god's almighty power and mostly confident that gabriel and the council are completely in control of the situation. honestly...i'm not sure if this is disputed by anything, but i do kind of like the idea that maybe they're not even fully aware that god is gone. the true angels are adrift, purposeless, doing route management of heaven and little else, save for the council. its infrastructure is starting to buckle, it's turning into whatever the council wishes to make of it, and gabriel is exhausting himself trying to maintain the illusion that this place is still fully functional as it once was. BASICALLY heaven has a veneer of being fine and is holding up for now, crumbling just beneath the surface, but the human souls don't know and the true angels refuse to acknowledge it.
64 notes
·
View notes
everyone is wildly primed to have their anger and fear used against them right now, so while you are advocating and protesting, make sure you’re not falling into shit that is going to cause more harm
The genocide in Gaza is horrific. And it is a genocide. The words coming directly from the mouths of those in charge of Israel’s government are those that demonstrate an intent to utterly erase any Palestinian from Gaza, whether through displacement or death.
Do not let people convince you that this is the fault of Jews. Do not let yourself be swayed into conspiracies that Jews control Hollywood, or the government, or are otherwise collectively conspiring to do harm. It’s bullshit. It causes real, measurable harm and fear. It continues to make rising antisemitism worse. And not only does that antisemitism lead to death, it rightfully increases the fear of more horrors happening.
The attack on Oct 7 was also horrific. As is the rising antisemitism around the world. And the fact that there has been almost no space to honor those dead is a tragedy.
Do not be convinced that the only way to protect the Jewish people is to build a State where only one religious or ethnic group is allowed to live freely. Do not be convinced that safety is dependent upon protecting that State at all costs. When one State is allowed to defend itself by any means necessary, any means will be used and any action will be excused. And do not be convinced that all Arabs or Muslims are responsible for those atrocities. Islamophobia is also on the rise and is also causing real, measurable harm and fear.
Your anger and fear will be used to excuse horrors if you let it.
Don’t let it.
7 notes
·
View notes
hi! sorry if its been asked before, but do you have a general canonical rundown of the larger gov. structure in kotlc? i know it goes like council -> emissiaries, who are nobles but then idk. how many are there? what does the rest of the nobility do? do they have any other decision making body than the council? thank you!
Hi! I should set a rule prohibiting starting asks with apologies because y'all are apologizing for existing at this point.
That aside, the canonical government structure begins with the council as the primary ruling power, each councillor nominated by the people and then selected by the currently ruling council members. There is no other decision making body, it is just the 12 councillors.
Below them is the entirety of the nobility, though we aren't given specifics on how many there are. It's framed like it's a rarer, coveted, important thing to be in the nobility, but we do see a significant number of nobility in the books. Our exposure may be slightly skewed, however, as Sophie is interacting with people the average elf never would.
The highest up after councillors are the emissaries, as you mentioned. Below emissaries are the regents (that's what Sophie and co. became in Legacy), but regents don't take orders from emissaries. Both respond directly to the council. They do what they're instructed to do by them, the more classified and important tasks being given to higher ranking, experienced nobles.
Mentors are also members of the nobility, though they're doing very different work teaching students. Keepers and Probes are also individuals who work specifically for the council, though there's fewer of them as its a highly specialized position.
So basically the government structure of keeper is: 12 all powerful councillors, a body of individuals they give orders to carry out at various levels, the rest of the population. Which is supposed to work because the elves are above corruption and none of the councillors would abuse the power, and all are in service of their people. But the councillors are the government. Everything's held together by trust. That's it.
I hope that helps!
16 notes
·
View notes
honestly i am so completely and totally sick of the argument about this supposed "antiman" rhetoric. i simply think its possible to critique men and their place in society without falling into terfdom. pointing out the position men have in our social and political structure does not mean i am engaging in biological essentialism. and 9 times out of 10 when i see this so called anti-man rhetoric discussed its in the context of gender or sexuality discrimination, where by all means we should have an understanding of the way minority groups often dramatize language when conveying their own personal experiences. if i was in a room of gay people and said "ugh heterosexuals" no one would tell me that "actually thats anti-hetero language and-". and obviously i understand that in many circles people do operate on that level but when im seeing dialogue from supposed leftists that is just people complaining that women are too "antimen" and that we somehow feed terfs because of that is frustrating. it doesnt mean you believe in biological essentialism to critique the place that men have in society. when poc say "white people" it does not mean that they believe in a material racial identity or that traits are innately tied to race, but simply that white people hold a spot in society that allows for more power. can we stop critiquing minority people for using casual language to describe the power dynamic they live under.
2 notes
·
View notes
I've been rereading some of my Bl3 h2o au and actually I missed it sm lol bbbbbbbbbbb info dump incoming
It's wild bc some parts come across as awkward to me now after about 2-3 years... To me this fic is very recent so to think I've improved enough to recognize flaws in such a short amount of time... Wha!!
Also Junpai-7 arc my beloved. That's all. I love this arc. Twin sun planet that hates the moon and has sun festivals with Digby Vermouth to celebrate longer days. Custom made RGB Guardian OC that designed mermaids and furthers 'Eridian experimentation' lore and she eventually teams up with the Crimson Raiders after talking to Tannis. The fact that I accidentally called Guardian possession as a lore mechanic because I wanted a way to fit being moonstruck into my silly au. There are pirates and vampires and double-crossing mermen and an Eridian Compass that points the owner to an underwater Vault that becomes a huge whirlpool with a giant sea monster inside. This arc is SO self-indulgent and I love it so much.
Also when ur reading the Pandora 'main story' stuff u can see where I decided the Crimson Raiders' new base on Pandora was going to be Roland's Rest while they build Sanc-III during the main story because it abruptly cuts back to it in the middle of an arc LOL (and also where I decided there was a Pandoran moon pool in the Salt Flats instead of a lineage factor to this one... Because moon pools... I wanted to fit one into the main story to have a basis for the 'revisiting junpai-7 with the Crimson Raiders' arc OK shhh)
And I forgot I killed off Emma and Nino and actually my heart broke when they died bc I was like 'Awww I missed the Black Ops Squad' AND THEN THEY WERE DEAD hhggghhh but This arc also has all the Obsidian Block lore with all the characters being named after H2O villains (Greg, Sophie, Dr. Denman, Will...) and ALSO explains some Eridian lore and I think is also the first time I refer to moonstone from tps as its 'scientific' name which is Cythium-3 :) AND this is where Barnabas betrays Zane after joining the Black Ops Squad and starts their whole thing. Very back-and-forth with the vibes overall... Also lowkey can't wait to see what the actual lore explanation is for the triangle jackets because I will be permanently ignoring that in favor of my Black Ops Squad designs thank you (the jackets were bc they were all part of the Dahl Black Ops outfit on Pandora (referencing that ECHO Captain has about Zane) before they were abandoned, but they were nice af jackets so they kept them and replaced the Dahl logo with the triangle design)
Also also there are SO MANY references to stuff that isn't just H2O... In the junpai-7 arc the Rogues (Clay and the gang) are in the process of smuggling the Eridian Compass to a place called Mariejois when Zane shows up to steal it for the pirate queen Cutlord Karuu bc I love One Piece and it's Pirates okay. Also Zane drinks and enjoys Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters, in which he compares the headache after getting moon-driver-struck to getting his brain smashed in with a brick without the lemon.
Also oh my god Zoomer is baby I'm so sorry I forgot about you 🥺 he's so small and beeps so much... He's just doing his best... Yeah he will shoot you but he's trying his best okay don't judge him... Blane (stands for Blue Zane) on the other hand is a total dick and messes with Zane at every opportunity and I think that's beautiful. He's only like that because tediore accidentally switched out the personality cores for the clone so he's the exact opposite of Zane
6 notes
·
View notes